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Bob Hill's Letter to the Editor

C CookeyPost Master
Bob Hill is my new hero. Good job, Bob.

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Published: Sunday, November 16, 2008 at 3:30 a.m.
Last Modified: Friday, November 14, 2008 at 3:10 p.m.

This letter came about in the early morning hours, when I awoke and could not go back to sleep, wrestling with past politics, realizing that the United States had just elected its first black president, and contemplating the bigotry and intolerance that is still with us today.

The recent proliferation of racially motivated and bigoted remarks, comments and letters to the editor concerning President-elect Barack Obama threatens to tarnish the proud history of the Shoals for tolerance, love and respect between all races, creeds and beliefs. It seems these people had rather see America fail then see President-elect Obama succeed.

The "n" word has been used often and freely, such as "I guess that means you are going to vote for that n ."

The radical, self righteous, religious extremists, who profess to speak for God in declaring their own right to sit in Heaven and those of a different political persuasion to burn in Hell, have no place in this land of freedom.

The comment that Obama probably will not "put his hand on the Bible" when he is sworn in as president is the height of religious and racial prejudice. This is especially ludicrous as Barack Obama has repeatedly proclaimed himself a follower of Jesus Christ.

It is inconceivable that these individuals are claiming that their twisted views are representative of the views of a great majority of citizens in our community.

Extreme arrogance and prejudice was shown by the person who did not have the backbone to put his name on his comment to the editor, and who referred to Obama as "Osama bin Obama," and declared that anyone who disagreed with his views is either "stupid" or "braindead."

No one likes a bigot, but how do you make them go away?

I have always admired Sen. John McCain for his patriotism, service to his country, and honesty and integrity in the U.S. Senate; however, my admiration reached a new high during the presidential election when he showed great courage on at least three occasions.

First, at a public rally of his supporters, Sen. McCain condemned a racial remark from one is own supporters saying, "no, we are not going there. Sen. Obama is a patriotic, good and decent American." Secondly, Sen. McCain gave the most eloquent, gracious and unifying concession speech that I have ever heard, or could ever envision, calling for all citizens of this great country to unite behind and support President-elect Obama. Lastly, when some of his supporters "booed" his unifying remarks, he, with his arms raised, dissented, calling for calm and understanding. Sen. John McCain is truly a great American patriot and hero.

On the other hand, I was disappointed in Gov. Sarah Palin when, unlike John McCain, she started catering to the radical extremists, using deceptive attacks, questioning the patriotism of Obama, claiming he hangs around with terrorists and he is not like us. When the partisan crowd shouted "off with his head" and "kill him," Gov. Palin stood by silently.

The TimesDaily editorialized against the attacks by Gov. Palin and against the recent increase in bigotry and intolerance in the tradition of Louis Eckl, the courageous and valiant editor of the TimesDaily, who in the turbulent and racially charged 1950s and '60s, editorialized and spoke out against segregation and intolerance, calling for peace, love and respect among our black and white citizens. There were cries of cancellations to subscriptions, just as we are witnessing today.

Dr. E.B. Norton, president of what is now the University of North Alabama, while George Wallace was standing in the schoolhouse door at the University of Alabama, courageously, and with dignity, integrated the university, to the chagrin of Gov. Wallace, in admitting the first black student, William Wilkie Gunn, who graduated with honors and has established himself as an outstanding citizen and role model.

There have been many Shoals citizens, black and white, male and female, Christian and Jew, Democrat and Republican, who have courageously stood against bigotry and intolerance. We, as a community, must not let the recent profusion of hatred and bigotry debase our proud heritage of tolerance and acceptance of those who differ from us.

I am proud to call the Shoals my home and the TimesDaily my newspaper, although I have disagreed with some of your endorsements, editorials and stances on issues.

That is what America and the Shoals are all about: disagreeing with honor, respect and dignity.

God bless, protect and inspire President-elect Barack Obama and give him the strength and wisdom to meet the challenges ahead, and God bless the proud heritage of the United States of America and may we long endure as a nation of freedom and tolerance.

Bob Hill

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R redbullPost Master
"On the other hand, I was disappointed in Gov. Sarah Palin when, unlike John McCain, she started catering to the radical extremists, using deceptive attacks, questioning the patriotism of Obama, claiming he hangs around with terrorists and he is not like us. When the partisan crowd shouted "off with his head" and "kill him," Gov. Palin stood by silently."

Several issues with this erroneous remark. 1) Bill Ayers is an unrepentant terroist and claims now to be a "family friend" of Obama's. 2) The claims of the crowd shouting has been WIDELY discredited and investigated by the Secret Service.

But you are right, we live in a great wonderful country - America. Where we can agree to disagree.

Of course if you're into FICTION:

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Phoenix RisingPhoenix RisingPost Master
You can stop playing on white guilt now and perpetuating untrue rumors. This had almost nothing to do with race.

Give me a charismatic conservative black, midget, and gay non-socialist and I'd vote for him any day over Obama.

I can see through the hype and have never paid my rent with hope, gotten a job from anyone living off entitlements, and I've never fed my family with hope.
S skymasterHall of Famer
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Originally posted by Phoenix Rising:
You can stop playing on white guilt now and perpetuating untrue rumors. This had almost nothing to do with race.

Give me a charismatic conservative black, midget, and gay non-socialist and I'd vote for him any day over Obama.

I can see through the hype and have never paid my rent with hope, gotten a job from anyone living off entitlements, and I've never fed my family with hope.


What PR said.
K K5Everybody Knows My Name
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Originally posted by Sleepyshoals:
Hill wrote a well-thought out letter and hit on some really key points. I have had very similar thoughts--especially about how eloquent and graceful McCain was in his consession speech. It is a shame that his followers can't be just as graceful.


Some really key points that are actually wrong. Besides, you wouldn't say I wasn't graceful if you saw me run a live fire combat course with my 45 auto!
Bill GrayBill GrayOld Faithful
Hi Skeptik,

You posted "Bob Hill's Letter to the Editor." Most of his letter I agree with completely and laud Bob Hill for speaking out. However, there were several points he made where I will have to take him to task.

First, Bob stated, "The recent proliferation of racially motivated and bigoted remarks, comments and letters to the editor concerning President-elect Barack Obama threatens to tarnish the proud history of the Shoals for tolerance, love and respect between all races, creeds and beliefs. It seems these people had rather see America fail then see President-elect Obama succeed.

Although I was and am against virtually everything Obama stands for -- I, too, get upset when I hear racially motivated comments. I was born in Tuscumbia, grew up and lived in Sheffield until I joined the Air Force in 1955 -- and, although I was not a Christian at that time, looking back I have always been proud to say that I was never taught racial prejudice in my home. I saw signs of segregation all around me in the Shoals area of the 1940s/50s -- the rest rooms, drinking fountains, theater seating, waiting rooms, etc. -- but, I just thought the whole world was this way.

When the Air Force sent me to Denver for Radar Tech Training; I was so happy to see that the whole world did not have these symbols of segregation.

But, regarding Bob Hill's implication that "racially motivated and bigoted remarks" is a Shoals area, or Alabama, trait alone -- I have to correct him. I have lived in California for many years, have traveled the country, and to some extent, the world -- and, unfortunately, I have witnessed this type of racially motivated and bigoted remarks and attitude in many different places. It is sad that the world still has, and will always have, such intolerance and ignorance -- but, that is the way of the fallen world -- not just the Shoals area or Alabama.

Next, Bob Hill tells us, "The comment that Obama probably will not "put his hand on the Bible" when he is sworn in as president is the height of religious and racial prejudice. This is especially ludicrous as Barack Obama has repeatedly proclaimed himself a follower of Jesus Christ."

I must remind Bob, and all of us, that it is not what a person proclaims himself to be -- it is what his actions show him/her to be. After the Evangelical Conservative Christian votes won the presidential elections in 2000 and 2004 -- the Liberal Democrats worked very hard to reinvent themselves by attempting to add a wee bit of Christian luster to their peeling exterior. Yes, many of them began to paint themselves, not really as Conservatives -- but, they tippy toed into the center -- trying to pass themselves off as "moderates." Hillary and Obama are both shining examples of this type of deception.

If you take an out-house and paint it with expensive paint -- it is still an out-house.

Yes, Obama successfully fooled some Evangelical Christians who voted for him. They admired his oratorical skills and believed his empty rhetoric about what it means, to him, to be a Christian. I suppose that Obama could, possibly, qualify to be a Liberal Christian. For Liberal theology takes the position: "We see the Bible, not as the literal Word of God, but as a guideline for living. All those things written in the Bible were written by men and they could have been wrong. The Bible is made up of parables, metaphors, and allegories meant to guide us, but, not meant to be believed literally."

Wrong, my Liberal Friends. The Bible is God's full revelation to man. We read in 2 Timothy 3:16-17 that, "All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work."

So, yes, the Bible is intended to be THE guideline for man; the full guideline for righteous, Godly living. When we read the Bible, we must realize that the Bible is INSPIRED by God. God is the author of the Bible; employing men as His means; just as you and I use a pen or use the computer, He used men to write His Bible. God inspired these forty men and working through their individual personalities and skills; He wrote His full revelation to man, His full User's Manual for Godly living. And, no part of the Bible is irrelevant, no part of the Bible is to be ignored -- just because it becomes inconvenient or when it challenges your chosen lifestyles.

Obama calls himself a Christian. But, is this a convenient transformation to help him win an election -- or does he walk the Christian walk? With all who profess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, as the Master of our lives -- it is not what we profess -- but how we walk.

If a person professes to be a Christian -- yet, walks completely in the world -- that person is not a Christian. If a person professes to be a Christian; and does his very best to walk with the Lord, to emulate Jesus Christ in his life -- I would say that person is a Christian. He is not perfect; he will have failures; he will sin -- but, he is right with the Lord and he is a Christian. He is a forgiven sinner.

So, let's do a litmus test for Obama: First, he is 100% FOR abortion. He is 100% FOR killing millions upon millions of babies -- so that the babies will not inconvenience his women supporters.

Obama speaks of "women's rights" -- but, how about the "babies' rights" -- especially the right to life?

Obama speaks of privacy. Abortion has nothing to do with privacy. It has to do with killing babies. It has to do with using abortion as the chosen form of birth control. Would Jesus vote 100% to kill babies so that adult couples would not be inconvenienced? No, He would not.

When Jesus said in Matthew 19:14, "Let the children alone, and do not hinder them from coming to Me; for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these" -- He was not saying let the children come to him prematurely, through abortion. No, He was telling us that, to Him, children are precious -- and, we as a nation, as a world, will have to answer to him for the BILLIONS of babies who have been killed by abortion -- and for the billions more who will die by abortion in a Liberal world encouraged by the Obamanation to increase abortion as a means of population control. No, Jesus would not be for killing billions of babies -- as a form of birth control or as a means of population control. Jesus would say, "Let the children alone."

When Obama supports all the gay activists' agendas; when he helps them gets special legislation passed to support that small 1.12% minority against the morals and desires of the 98.88% majority of Americans who do not want to see Same-Sex Marriage, Same-Sex Adoptions -- when Obama's Liberals make it illegal for Conservative Talk Shows to be broadcast -- when Obama's Liberals make it illegal for a pastor to teach specifically from the Bible -- then, all of America has lost; and lost big time.

No, my Friend Bob Hill, Obama may talk like a Christian -- but, he does not walk like a Christian.

And, then, Bob Hill tells us, "The TimesDaily editorialized against the attacks by Gov. Palin and against the recent increase in bigotry and intolerance. . ."

The TimesDaily newspaper may reside in the Shoals area -- but, its heartbeat comes from the New York Times. From the beginning, the TimesDaily has supported Obama -- and, at times, tried to suppress anyone who spoke against Obama or the Liberal agenda. I had posts deleted in the Forums when I said that Americans should vote our Christian values; that we should hold our political leaders' feet to the fire and let them know that we voted them in -- and that we can vote them out. I had posts deleted when I spoke out against Same-Sex Marriage for moral reasons.

The Times Daily came out, like a good New York Times puppet, fully endorsing Obama. And, then and now, the Times Daily/New York Times bashed Sarah Palin -- and, they continue to bash Sarah Palin because she already has a good start on the
2012 election.

By the time America has lived in Obamanation for four years -- everyone will be happy for a change, possibly dying for a change, literally. At least the babies aborted will be dying for the Obamanation. But, this time we mean a change FROM Obamanation Liberalism -- to Conservative Moralism. FROM Obamanation Liberal Moral Relativism to Conservative Christian Morals. Yes, Sarah Palin is our hope for 2012 -- and the TimesDaily and their big daddy, the New York Times know it. Possibly it will be a race between Hillary and Sarah -- a race between Liberal Immorality and Conservative Morality.

That last paragraph might sound harsh to some, especially the Liberals. But, think about it: is abortion, infanticide, moral or immoral? Is homosexual marriage moral or immoral? Hillary is for abortion; Hillary is for homosexual marriage -- therefore, it follows that Hillary is immoral. Sarah Palin is against abortion; Sarah Palin is against homosexual marriage -- therefore, it follows that Sarah Palin is moral. That is how I view these two strong leaders: one strongly against all we hold moral; the other strongly for all we hold moral. Decide for yourself which camp you want to follow. Personally, I stand in the Conservative Christian Morals camp -- and, I stand strongly against Moral Relativism.

Select your team well; for that is how Jesus will know if you are a Christian or a Christian looky-loo.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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K K5Everybody Knows My Name
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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Hi Skeptik,

You posted "Bob Hill's Letter to the Editor." Most of his letter I agree with completely and laud Bob Hill for speaking out. However, there were several points he made where I will have to take him to task.

First, Bob stated, "The recent proliferation of racially motivated and bigoted remarks, comments and letters to the editor concerning President-elect Barack Obama threatens to tarnish the proud history of the Shoals for tolerance, love and respect between all races, creeds and beliefs. It seems these people had rather see America fail then see President-elect Obama succeed.

Although I was and am against virtually everything Obama stands for -- I, too, get upset when I hear racially motivated comments. I was born in Tuscumbia, grew up and lived in Sheffield until I joined the Air Force in 1955 -- and, although I was not a Christian at that time, looking back I have always been proud to say that I was never taught racial prejudice in my home. I saw signs of segregation all around me in the Shoals area of the 1940s/50s -- the rest rooms, drinking fountains, theater seating, waiting rooms, etc. -- but, I just thought the whole world was this way.

When the Air Force sent me to Denver for Radar Tech Training; I was so happy to see that the whole world did not have these symbols of segregation.

But, regarding Bob Hill's implication that "racially motivated and bigoted remarks" is a Shoals area, or Alabama, trait alone -- I have to correct him. I have lived in California for many years, have traveled the country, and to some extent, the world -- and, unfortunately, I have witnessed this type of racially motivated and bigoted remarks and attitude in many different places. It is sad that the world still has, and will always have, such intolerance and ignorance -- but, that is the way of the fallen world -- not just the Shoals area or Alabama.

Next, Bob Hill tells us, "The comment that Obama probably will not "put his hand on the Bible" when he is sworn in as president is the height of religious and racial prejudice. This is especially ludicrous as Barack Obama has repeatedly proclaimed himself a follower of Jesus Christ."

I must remind Bob, and all of us, that it is not what a person proclaims himself to be -- it is what his actions show him/her to be. After the Evangelical Conservative Christian votes won the presidential elections in 2000 and 2004 -- the Liberal Democrats worked very hard to reinvent themselves by attempting to add a wee bit of Christian luster to their peeling exterior. Yes, many of them began to paint themselves, not really as Conservatives -- but, they tippy toed into the center -- trying to pass themselves off as "moderates." Hillary and Obama are both shining examples of this type of deception.

If you take an out-house and paint it with expensive paint -- it is still an out-house.

Yes, Obama successfully fooled some Evangelical Christians who voted for him. They admired his oratorical skills and believed his empty rhetoric about what it means, to him, to be a Christian. I suppose that Obama could, possibly, qualify to be a Liberal Christian. For Liberal theology takes the position: "We see the Bible, not as the literal Word of God, but as a guideline for living. All those things written in the Bible were written by men and they could have been wrong. The Bible is made up of parables, metaphors, and allegories meant to guide us, but, not meant to be believed literally."

Wrong, my Liberal Friends. The Bible is God's full revelation to man. We read in 2 Timothy 3:16-17 that, "All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work."

So, yes, the Bible is intended to be THE guideline for man; the full guideline for righteous, Godly living. When we read the Bible, we must realize that the Bible is INSPIRED by God. God is the author of the Bible; employing men as His means; just as you and I use a pen or use the computer, He used men to write His Bible. God inspired these forty men and working through their individual personalities and skills; He wrote His full revelation to man, His full User's Manual for Godly living. And, no part of the Bible is irrelevant, no part of the Bible is to be ignored -- just because it becomes inconvenient or when it challenges your chosen lifestyles.

Obama calls himself a Christian. But, is this a convenient transformation to help him win an election -- or does he walk the Christian walk? With all who profess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, as the Master of our lives -- it is not what we profess -- but how we walk.

If a person professes to be a Christian -- yet, walks completely in the world -- that person is not a Christian. If a person professes to be a Christian; and does his very best to walk with the Lord, to emulate Jesus Christ in his life -- I would say that person is a Christian. He is not perfect; he will have failures; he will sin -- but, he is right with the Lord and he is a Christian. He is a forgiven sinner.

So, let's do a litmus test for Obama: First, he is 100% FOR abortion. He is 100% FOR killing millions upon millions of babies -- so that the babies will not inconvenience his women supporters.

Obama speaks of "women's rights" -- but, how about the "babies' rights" -- especially the right to life?

Obama speaks of privacy. Abortion has nothing to do with privacy. It has to do with killing babies. It has to do with using abortion as the chosen form of birth control. Would Jesus vote 100% to kill babies so that adult couples would not be inconvenienced? No, He would not.

When Jesus said in Matthew 19:14, "Let the children alone, and do not hinder them from coming to Me; for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these" -- He was not saying let the children come to him prematurely, through abortion. No, He was telling us that, to Him, children are precious -- and, we as a nation, as a world, will have to answer to him for the BILLIONS of babies who have been killed by abortion -- and for the billions more who will die by abortion in a Liberal world encouraged by the Obamanation to increase abortion as a means of population control. No, Jesus would not be for killing billions of babies -- as a form of birth control or as a means of population control. Jesus would say, "Let the children alone."

When Obama supports all the gay activists' agendas; when he helps them gets special legislation passed to support that small 1.12% minority against the morals and desires of the 98.88% majority of Americans who do not want to see Same-Sex Marriage, Same-Sex Adoptions -- when Obama's Liberals make it illegal for Conservative Talk Shows to be broadcast -- when Obama's Liberals make it illegal for a pastor to teach specifically from the Bible -- then, all of America has lost; and lost big time.

No, my Friend Bob Hill, Obama may talk like a Christian -- but, he does not walk like a Christian.

And, then, Bob Hill tells us, "The TimesDaily editorialized against the attacks by Gov. Palin and against the recent increase in bigotry and intolerance. . ."

The TimesDaily newspaper may reside in the Shoals area -- but, its heartbeat comes from the New York Times. From the beginning, the TimesDaily has supported Obama -- and, at times, tried to suppress anyone who spoke against Obama or the Liberal agenda. I had posts deleted in the Forums when I said that Americans should vote our Christian values; that we should hold our political leaders' feet to the fire and let them know that we voted them in -- and that we can vote them out. I had posts deleted when I spoke out against Same-Sex Marriage for moral reasons.

The Times Daily came out, like a good New York Times puppet, fully endorsing Obama. And, then and now, the Times Daily/New York Times bashed Sarah Palin -- and, they continue to bash Sarah Palin because she already has a good start on the
2012 election.

By the time America has lived in Obamanation for four years -- everyone will be happy for a change, possibly dying for a change, literally. At least the babies aborted will be dying for the Obamanation. But, this time we mean a change FROM Obamanation Liberalism -- to Conservative Moralism. FROM Obamanation Liberal Moral Relativism to Conservative Christian Morals. Yes, Sarah Palin is our hope for 2012 -- and the TimesDaily and their big daddy, the New York Times know it. Possibly it will be a race between Hillary and Sarah -- a race between Liberal Immorality and Conservative Morality.

That last paragraph might sound harsh to some, especially the Liberals. But, think about it: is abortion, infanticide, moral or immoral? Is homosexual marriage moral or immoral? Hillary is for abortion; Hillary is for homosexual marriage -- therefore, it follows that Hillary is immoral. Sarah Palin is against abortion; Sarah Palin is against homosexual marriage -- therefore, it follows that Sarah Palin is moral. That is how I view these two strong leaders: one strongly against all we hold moral; the other strongly for all we hold moral. Decide for yourself which camp you want to follow. Personally, I stand in the Conservative Christian Morals camp -- and, I stand strongly against Moral Relativism.

Select your team well; for that is how Jesus will know if you are a Christian or a Christian looky-loo.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill


Thank you Bill Gray, this is excellent and gives the lie to the leftist agenda of a false christianity. Before the mods delete it, is it ok for us to copy your post and use in emails to our friends in other parts of the country?
FiredancerFiredancerPost Master
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Originally posted by Skeptik:
quote:
Select your team well; for that is how Jesus will know if you are a Christian or a Christian looky-loo.


Thanks for teaching me a new word, Bill. Why am I not surprised that you'd know the term?

From Link

"looky-loo: In stripteasing, a customer who likes to watch the show but does not tip or pay for private sessions."


"sex-lexis.com"--who knew there was such a thing??
NashBamaNashBamaOld Faithful
Maybe it's because I'm not in the Shoals anymore, but the people who have made negative remarks about Obama's race are in the vast minority. For the most part, everyone I know who voted against him did so because his basic plan is to increase the size and spending of the Federal government.

I've only heard one person to suggest that a vote for Obama is a vote against Jesus, I bet you can guess who that was. That's complete nonsense, and although there may be others out there who may feel that way, they are few and far between.

It's not difficult to turn over a few rocks and find some racists crawl out from under them. So why be distracted by them? Look at the bigger picture, the majority of the country voted based on policy and not race. That's a huge milestone for this country despite the fact his socialist policies are going to create a mess.

Yes, there were some who voted against him because he is black, but there were plenty more who only voted for him for that same reason. Both are wrong, but the majority of the country didn't look at his race, they looked at his policy. Why tarnish that milestone by worrying about a few loud mouth bigots?
K K5Everybody Knows My Name
quote:
Originally posted by Skeptik:
quote:
Select your team well; for that is how Jesus will know if you are a Christian or a Christian looky-loo.


Thanks for teaching me a new word, Bill. Why am I not surprised that you'd know the term?

From Link

"looky-loo: In stripteasing, a customer who likes to watch the show but does not tip or pay for private sessions."


Well Skeptic, Bill didn't teach me a new word, but you taught me a new meaning for an old term!
During my over 25 years in law enforcement that term was used to describe those who cluttered the area around any crime scene or accident that included blood, guts, or other assorted gore.
I didn't really need to know your definition, but we can always depend on a leftist to assign filthy qualities to otherwise innocent comments!
meanasasnakemeanasasnakeOld Faithful
quote:
Originally posted by K5:
quote:
Originally posted by Skeptik:
quote:
Select your team well; for that is how Jesus will know if you are a Christian or a Christian looky-loo.


Thanks for teaching me a new word, Bill. Why am I not surprised that you'd know the term?

From Link

"looky-loo: In stripteasing, a customer who likes to watch the show but does not tip or pay for private sessions."


Well Skeptic, Bill didn't teach me a new word, but you taught me a new meaning for an old term!
During my over 25 years in law enforcement that term was used to describe those who cluttered the area around any crime scene or accident that included blood, guts, or other assorted gore.
I didn't really need to know your definition, but we can always depend on a leftist to assign filthy qualities to otherwise innocent comments!


And we can always depend on the pontificating, self-righteous right to tell us that they are the only ones who could possibly know the heart of man and God's will for all.
R redbullPost Master
quote:
Originally posted by meanasasnake:
quote:
Originally posted by K5:
quote:
Originally posted by Skeptik:
quote:
Select your team well; for that is how Jesus will know if you are a Christian or a Christian looky-loo.


Thanks for teaching me a new word, Bill. Why am I not surprised that you'd know the term?

From Link

"looky-loo: In stripteasing, a customer who likes to watch the show but does not tip or pay for private sessions."


Well Skeptic, Bill didn't teach me a new word, but you taught me a new meaning for an old term!
During my over 25 years in law enforcement that term was used to describe those who cluttered the area around any crime scene or accident that included blood, guts, or other assorted gore.
I didn't really need to know your definition, but we can always depend on a leftist to assign filthy qualities to otherwise innocent comments!


And we can always depend on the pontificating, self-righteous right to tell us that they are the only ones who could possibly know the heart of man and God's will for all.


Of course, it takes the leftwingnuts to tell us how it "really" is - ha ha. God love you meansnake - cause it sure takes alot out of a mere mortal to love.

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