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Prediction:

Bobby Irons will leave office in utter disgrace, having been largely responsible for the general decimation of the city of Florence.

If I prove to be wrong, I will be happy to admit that publicly. But that's what I think. Many of his worst mistakes haven't even reached the public consciousness yet, thanks largely to the TimesDaily's soft-shoe approach to dealing with municipal matters.
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bcabler
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Posted 18 January 2007 03:44 PM Hide Post
Prediction:

Bobby Irons will leave office in utter disgrace, having been largely responsible for the general decimation of the city of Florence.

If I prove to be wrong, I will be happy to admit that publicly. But that's what I think. Many of his worst mistakes haven't even reached the public consciousness yet, thanks largely to the TimesDaily's soft-shoe approach to dealing with municipal matters

I do wish Joy was around: this board is making me close to a foot washer: AMEN AMEN AMEN! THE DOG!
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Bobby Irons is doing a great job.The only ones complaining is Scott Carrier and his band of Idiots That has nothing to do but lay around the house or office and bash Bobby. A lot of them are not Florence citizens but a friend of IDIOTS. Some of them are from Sheffield coming to our council meetings to support Scott, When they need to get there own city back alive. Take care of Sheffield and Bobby will take care of Florence without some peoples help or Harm.
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Originally posted by chopper760:
Hey CHOP just HOW is BOOBY doing a great job? Be specific. All you do is slander Scott, and now his supporters. Instead of doing that tell us why your guy is the one to vote for? Why should we re-elect Bobby Irons? Answer without mentioning Scott. If you can.


Cool... Chop760 and Chopper760 are both conversing on the same forum with two differing opinions... AMAZING!!!! Roll Eyes Eeker Roll Eyes
Chop760 does not no or related to Chopper760, You guys making statements to pair us up reflexs on your other topics, you don't know what you are talking about yourself and You want someone else to believe you do, You guys need to take up needle point or go back to a CB radio where you like to here each or Shoot the Bull----, This is about nothing for a forum as most of them and You guys would be better off watching the wind blow instead of BLOWING.
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Originally posted by Reflecting One of the voices i:
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Originally posted by CousinTammy:
Can't any body but me see that Bobby Irons is a great mayor and leader? What is wrong with you people?



Tammy Irons is Bobbys cousin.....nepotism at its finest...oh and lets let Larry Irons chime in too.....A family monarchy....too many Irons in the fire for me


How is Larry related to them. I haven't lived here that long and don't know all the players.
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Originally posted by ShugaPush:
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Originally posted by Reflecting One of the voices i:
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Originally posted by CousinTammy:
Can't any body but me see that Bobby Irons is a great mayor and leader? What is wrong with you people?



Tammy Irons is Bobbys cousin.....nepotism at its finest...oh and lets let Larry Irons chime in too.....A family monarchy....too many Irons in the fire for me


How is Larry related to them. I haven't lived here that long and don't know all the players.


If I recall correctly, Tammy Irons was elected in a general election, not appointed by Bobby, Booby, or whatever you want to call him. How is that nepotism? I think she is doing a good job as representative.
Tammy "Abstain" Irons is not doing a great job in the State Legislature. She abstained on the Pay Raise vote and then takes the money. A friend told me then that she won't "abstain" from the cash. He was right. It's a joke, but the joke's on us while they are in office.

Bobby Irons needs to quit playing Big-Shot and start managing the City better. The things he is directly over are a mess. He takes credit for "jobs" in Barton he had nothing to do with, and then runs from responsibility from the things right here in town that he is truly responsible for but is hiding out on because he knows it is a mess.

City employees are disgusted, citizens are disappointed, many have been double-crossed, mislead or lied to, and done wrong. I think he thinks he can get away with it because of his name. I say he is wrong and this miscalculation is costing him the office. It is justice prevailing.

The people of Florence now see through the myth, and the reality has caught up with him.
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Originally posted by alacharger:
They must be kin......


They among the many kinfolk of Carrier on here...you'll see them all come out of the wood works...I like Mr. Irons better than I do Carrier so that is where I stand...that's not libel, slander or anything but my opinion...I think Mayor Irons has done more good than he will be given credit for and I think Carrier needs to stay a council man...
Dear GAWD in heaven, these threads kill me! All these bland, sunshiny statements like "Bobby Irons is doing a great job" and "he brings class and civility to office" remind me of the state propaganda from North Korea.

To believe this garbage, you have to be deaf and blind to the last four years. Irons is a petty, crooked man and yes, I will say that out loud. His wife is also a mean-spirited something-I-can't-say-here. Get on their wrong side and they will slime you all over the city to anyone who'll listen. I've been on the receiving end of it, and if they weren't so old I would have slapped them both in the face.
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They among the many kinfolk of Carrier on here...you'll see them all come out of the wood works...I like Mr. Irons better than I do Carrier so that is where I stand...that's not libel, slander or anything but my opinion...I think Mayor Irons has done more good than he will be given credit for and I think Carrier needs to stay a council man...


For once something we agree on.
I think that maybe Sarah was mean to anyone who puts down her husband (as any good southern woman would). Mayor Irons is busy in trying to help unite a city. I have heard him say a negative word - Unlike his opponent who is extreamly negative. He works at keeping things postive. He is always out trying to be a part of growth. He is a part of Seda who has brought industry to the Shoals.
As for Tammy, she is not out for number one. She tries to watch out for the small businesses and the schools. She does what she feels is best for the Shoals (even though that is not popular).

I wouldn't want either one of the Irons jobs. They are working for some of the most ungrateful people!
Please. David Bronner and Bob Riley brought jobs here, not SEDA or Bobby Irons. The Irons are the most vindictive, slanderous people I have ever seen. The pettiness and smallness is awful. The people are ungrateful? Give me a break. The Irons ought to be happy the people pay their way. It is waste of tax money, but so far they get away with it. That will change soon.
Some more info on the candidates.

Bobby Irons worked in corporate accounting and finance for Reynolds Metals Company for many years, for years was on the corporate level of a very large international company. Was very close to large financial decision and control systems for this international company.

Scott Carrier worked in sales at a small AM radio station is all I know about him. Maybe one of his supporters can tell us more.

So far all I've seen from Carrier supporters is personal attacks and lies and broad general inacurate remarks about the city while Mayor Irons has been in office.

Please, you Carrierites, give us more discussion about his qualifications and less about these made up attacks. Let's try to keep the discussion positive and informative, if you're able.
Scott Carrier has a MPA, Master's Degree in Public Administration and BA in Political Science. He has worked in several state capitals and in Washington DC. He has extensive business experience. His students from when he taught at NWSCC love him still and some help his campaign. He is great for the job of Mayor. He is not a myth. He is real.

As for Matt Osbourne, he was not charged or arrested for stealing Bobby Irons signs. That's a lie. He took them up from a road-way. The Police asked him about it. That's it.

If anything, what happened there pointed out the illegality of where the signs were. The signs were in violation of the law, not Matt Osborne. That's why it went away. No charges, no arrest, no court, no nothing. It was all a bunch of bull. That's why they shut up as soon as Scott fired back at the meeting that night. They tucked tail and wimpered away with the air out of yet another balloon of hot air.

An example of Irons campaign: The 90 year old mother of a supporter was called by somebody REAL CLOSE to Bobby Irons to try to get her to pressure her own son into not supporting Scott. That man is still livid and said he can't wait to vote for Scott and against Irons.

They even intimidated their own 93 year-old Aunt because she dared to talk to Scott. That's who they really are. Not the humble-pie myth they love to peddle with the public. A lot of people see through this now. Not as many are fooled anymore thank goodness.

The Irons put signs where people don't even ask for them and steal Scott's signs right out of people's yards. Not the road-side, their yards. Scott has an eye-witness as to who did it in at least one case, but said he won't use it because it is just so embarrassing to the City he won't go there as tempting as it is to do so. I sure wish he would though. It would be great fun.
I know the guy FDR is talking about who owns a business and has a Carrier sign. As soon as he put it up, literally within minutes, his 90 year old mother got a call from a "female" in the Irons "camp" to get her to call her own son and get on him about it. This poor old woman did and it so angered her son that he called Scott and told him about it. He told Scott to bring the biggest sign he has and put it up. He also said that he went from just for Scott, to adamantly against Irons now. Any people that would do that are unworthy of leading a city is what he says. I agree. Using a gullible old woman is pathetic. It really did happen and it's pitiful. It's also typical for this bunch of hypocrits.
Results from my "Florence Mayor Race" poll, as of today.

I'm just nosy!

I am not involved in either campaign, and I don't even have a sign for either in my yard.

Results (41 votes counted so far):

Who do you think is the best person to be the Mayor of Florence Alabama
14 (34%)
Bobby Irons
18 (44%)
Scott Carrier
9 (22%)
None of the above
I am not familar enough with either candidate to feel like I can make an informed choice so here is a chance to win a vote.
1. Tell me what are your candidate's long term plan for the city? Do they feel we can recruit more industry? Do they want Florence to become a retirement center?
2. Does your candidate support the local businesses? Does he or she think that all city business should come to local businesses first? Are the employees encouraged to use the local medical facilities and do their banking locally? Are or will their be incentives to do so?
3. What experience does your candidate rbing to the table? in handling large numbers of employees? in dealing with issues regarding waste management? in dealing with Union labor?
4. Is your candidate willing to work with other local towns and districts to revitalize the area or are they only concerned with this little piece of the river?
5. Are there any plans by your candidate to seek additional tax revenues from the citizens of the Florence? If so, how much and for what are they to be used?

Tell me why I need to vote for your candidate. Currently I see alot of politcal wrangling and constant fighting at the city council meeting. I also hear things locally about the way things are currently being done that I am not happy with, so a change may not be a bad thing. But as a voter I want to make sure the change I ask for is actually something I want.
Convince me, and try to do it without slinging too much mud or accusing someone of stealing signs in the middle of the night.

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