Brenda Hawkins Absolved

Does she use 2 different names and visit 11 different doctors?

And you came to know this how?

We shall never know, because the media will never report it. There is a huge conspiracy concerning this woman of whom most of us have never heard before the conspiracy began.

What's going on in the Shoals, you guys? Everybody who is arrested lately has been the victim of a conspiracy.

Tom Smith wrote the article. Just a suggestion, but you might want to have all her family and friends email him concerning an update.

http://www.timesdaily.com/article/20071208/NEWS/712080329

His email address is at the bottom of the article (tom.smith@timesdaily.com).

Vick, it does seem to be the catch phrase of late, doesn't it? This person may be for real, but I just have to wonder how many times people come on here pretending to be someone they are not or pretending to know the person in the news when they don't know them from Adam. Again, not talking about the originator of this thread. It is just something I wonder about from time to time.

Thank you Joy, I will e-mail him. Brenda is my aunt. My dad is her brother who passed away in late November. I wanted to let others know of the dismissal of the charges. There were a lot of posts by people supporting her and the family wanted to say "thank you" for that support.

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Originally posted by vick13:
What's going on in the Shoals, you guys? Everybody who is arrested lately has been the victim of a conspiracy.

Lemme tell ya, Vick, it was a conspiracy. There I was attempting to leave Florence to go to a Bookstore in Elgin, of all places, when I see the blue lights. It was a conspiracy.

This little man refused to tell me why he stopped me at first--then said expired tag. I honestly thought he had pulled of the new sticker. Well...turns out he was right, but, big but, my renewal notice was mailed to the wrong address. I went the next day and got it renewed, but I still have to go to court.

It was a conspiracy and to top it all off, I forgot the say: I ain't confess to nothin, cause I ain't do nothin'. Think I can still use that line in Municipal Court?

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Originally posted by FirenzeVeritas:

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Originally posted by vick13:
What's going on in the Shoals, you guys? Everybody who is arrested lately has been the victim of a conspiracy.

Lemme tell ya, Vick, it was a conspiracy. There I was attempting to leave Florence to go to a Bookstore in Elgin, of all places, when I see the blue lights. It was a conspiracy.

This little man refused to tell me why he stopped me at first--then said expired tag. I honestly thought he had pulled of the new sticker. Well...turns out he was right, but, big but, my renewal notice was mailed to the wrong address. I went the next day and got it renewed, but I still have to go to court.

It was a conspiracy and to top it all off, I forgot the say: I ain't confess to nothin, cause I ain't do nothin'. Think I can still use that line in Municipal Court?

LOL, FV, I think that line might work BETTER in Municipal Court!!!

Sorry you had that happen though, it is a bummer!!!

I searched the paper today for anything to do with Brenda Hawkins, and I saw nothing. Nothing at all.

Lets see, she was arrested only last week, and already you are saying she is exonerated? BS, I have enough experience to know that you don't have no kind of ruling until a court date, you don't have a court date until at least three weeks after arrest. For some reason I believe you are trying to sugar coat what is going on by telling a lie. You should be careful, because Santa is watching you.
Next in line it will go before the grand jury. Don't you know anything about the court system?

Gus, I was kind of wondering that same thing. Man, they sure did fast track this case. Her niece never answered my question, maybe she'll come back on here and answer it. Does this woman use 2 different names and visit 11 different doctors? That's some good insurance to pay for 11 doctor visits.

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He was appalled it went as far as it did on such unsubstantiated accusations. It has been termed as nothing more than an attempt of a public lynching

hmmm? Unsubstantiated? If this it true, this is sad. Surely our Lauderdale County Investigators would not go through all this without getting enough evidence that a DA could use. I can see some people getting things thrown out due to searching without a warrant, etc. I am with you guys...seems awfully fast.

…..I’m glad she is free…if she is innocent…

It would be a tossup if I had to decide between a “pill head” or some insensitive nurse or care giver looking after me or mine.

Not only does it seem too fast, but it also hasn't been reported on any website (waff, whnt, waay) or in Times Daily that she is innocent.

I am waiting for that to come out.

My intention in beginning this thread was to inform and thank those who supported (supports) my aunt Branda. My intention was not to debate, defend, or argue. What I know about the court system is, there is a preliminary hearing. If it is warranted, a grand jury will be next. Then, if warranted, a trial. The preliminary hearing was Tuesday. The judge looked at the facts and decided there was not enough to go to grand jury. So, the charges were dismissed. Once dismissed by the judge, the formal paperwork has to be processed by the DA. That is where things are now. I realize that things did proceed faster than "normal". I am not here to explain why it went before the judge as fast as it did. Are any of you suprised it did not make the news? As Vick said in the original fourm, this type of announcement doesn't have the shock factor of the initial story. Also, news reporters may not be so quick to report law officials may have acted in an unwarranted fashion. Bottom line, I love my aunt. I love my family. I live 7 hours away and feel helpless in so many ways as far as support. I felt the initial comment I made was a little something I could do for her. In the near future everything I have said will be confirmed. In reference to the question about 2 names and 11 doctors, it is not unusual when a woman gets divorced to go back to her former surname. As far as the number of doctors, her medical history is not mine to reveal or yours to know. HIPPA law covers that part of your question. I have said everything in my power or place to say. I will not be logging back onto this forum. I am still grieving the loss of my dad and the frustration I feel from some of the comments just wastes too much energy. I wish you all a very happy holiday and a wonderful New Year. My e-mail address is LRGREENE@TVA.GOV. Ronna

OK , I called 3 defferent people at the Times Daily, one was out of office untell Monday, haven't heard back from the other two .I called my friend with the D A 's Office, she will be back after the 1st of the year. I called a Judge friend , I haven't heard back ..it was late today, maybe tommorrow , lol I was trying to find out the scoop . After someone is arrested , most of the time in just a few days there is an "Arraigment" as to bring before the court a "Judge" to answer Charges . I am not saying charges was droped but if so it may have been at that time, next step would be a "Preliminary Hearing" before a Judge, after the Judge hears the statments of evidence . the next step would be the "Grand Jury" if 12 of the 18 ladys & gentleman agrees on enough evidence to Indict called a "True Bill" or if not a "No Bill", then if Indicted , next step close to trial time, a Pre Trial hearing & then it goes to Trial or a plea agreement, Bond hearings or other hearings or motions in between alone the way. now I may not be 100% right . but as I recall these are the steps .

to Irgreene, thanks for the imfro, Yes if charges was droped & I have no reason to Not beleave you , Yes a lot of Egg in a lot of peoples Faces , & Yes the Times Daily should dig deep to let the Plubic know as to how & why this happened. I guess we all will see . It should be very easy for the Times Daily to find out, only if they wanted to . I have found they sure try to protect some Elected Officers of not printing it , when they Screw Up .

Where I’m from, if a judge dismissed the charges prior to trial, he would have done so in a preliminary hearing meaning the case lacked sufficient probable cause to take it to trial. This type of hearing doesn’t determine innocense or guilt.

Neither does a grand jury. They either return no bill or a true bill of indictment.

If Irgreene is correct, let us celebrate the criminal justice system has worked.

If not and the DA wishes to pursue the matter, he may try another legal recourse should one be available.

Remember, on these forums we are expressing our opinions and nothing more. We are not the judges nor the finder of facts.

D.A Chris Connely, said the charges was droped Wed. on Brenda Hawkins , I guess some egg in the drug taske force face , after working on this case for a year . And many more . A post in the News section & Times Daily , write up from Tom Smith

Apparently she was NOT absolved. Just dismissed due to technicalities. Doesn't mean she can't be recharged after the glitches are worked out.

Long way from being being innocent.

I agree Vick -- there is a vast difference between "charges dismissed" and "proven innocent". Time will tell what will come of all of the hoopla surrounding this situation. I'm sure there is more to this story than we will ever know on both sides of the fence.

From what I read, it was over a jurisdictional issue...where the actual crime was committed. When your bad guy is going to a doctor in one county, lives in another and has the 'script filled in a third county...it makes for lively and interesting prosecution.

None of that has anything to do with guilty or not guilty, and it dang sure don't equal "absolved". It's a prosecutorial procedural error in the way the case was filed.

Now who is the one being "quick to judgement"? We are all still waiting for this to go before a jury and/or judge -- not just prelim stuff. This aint over yet...

just to say "TOLD YOU SO" as i stated when this lucy and ethel or should i say barny fife episode started brenda has not fallen from grace and to keep the faith.i want to thank all brendas friends who has always believed in her and to let all the people that she has helped know that she has not let them down she has serious health issues that she is still battling and as far as you people saying its not over, just a jurisdictional issue, what do you think they are going to say? that they screwed up royally? i'm her sister and i know all about her i,m sure most of you don't know how it feels to have someone you love and respect as much as i do her to have them lynched in the media i have lost all respect for our judical system she deserves a very public appology

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Lets see, she was arrested only last week, and already you are saying she is exonerated? BS, I have enough experience to know that you don't have no kind of ruling until a court date, you don't have a court date until at least three weeks after arrest. For some reason I believe you are trying to sugar coat what is going on by telling a lie. You should be careful, because Santa is watching you.
Next in line it will go before the grand jury. Don't you know anything about the court system?

Hi, my name is Elysia. I have nothing to hide or lie about. I am Brenda's daughter in law and a MA Counselor.

Some of you had some legitimate questions that I think I can help to clarify. She did not have to go before the grand jury because both Chris Connelly, the DA, and Brenda's attorney agreed that the charges should be dropped. You can see more of our attorney's statement regarding that in the new story that was published today. As for the two names and eleven doctors.....Brenda Hawkins married Drew Vinson in January of 2005 and took his last name, hence the second name, Brenda Vinson. Unfortunately, the newspaper made it sound like she had an alias or something. She has had several doctors over the past three years because each specialist referred her to another when something else came up. For example, when her facial surgeon found that she had mastoiditis in her jaw, he referred her to a doctor who could better handle that since surgery is not used to treat that condition. We have had a harrowing time trying to get her through several surgeries for VERY serious medical conditions. She has been such a trooper and still is. In fact, she is scheduled to have lower lumbar surgery in January after she is treated for the infection in her jaw....with antibiotics.

Main reason I'm suspicious of the "specialists" is that every drug addict I've ever known (and yep, I've known/treated several) always have several ongoing conditions that just absolutely require narcotics. Problem with that is the truly recovering addicts I know (and up, I've known/treated several) always figure out another way of dealing with the pain.

And these conditions usually involve back pain and surgeries, jaw surgeries, and chronic headaches. Every single time.

And every legitimate physician I know (and yep, I know several) does not prescribe narcotics to a truly recovering addict. There are alternatives.


So you can see where her back and jaw pain being treated with narcotics sends up a red flag? Although, considering her position and past problems I would think she'd be aware of all the dangers of her current treatments.

Just worked with a woman who has had every tooth pulled one at a time with subsequent pain prescriptions. She's had five back surgeries for chronic pain with subsequent prescriptions. When that was over and she couldn't get more drugs she had wrist surgeries. When that was done she started on her head with biopsies for temporal arteritis. More pain meds. On and on.

all that matters is Brenda is innocent and all the nah sayers cant stand it they was wrong. Its easy to sit back and pass judgement when the whole story was unknown but now that the truth is out how easy is it to say I was wrong????

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Originally posted by vick13:
Apparently she was NOT absolved. Just dismissed due to technicalities. Doesn't mean she can't be recharged after the glitches are worked out.

Long way from being being innocent.

she can and probably will be recharged. like i've said before...fancy lawyering...and someone else added the good ole boys club.

All charges dropped, she is innocent. It kills some of you that your wrong. Just admit it. Its not fancy lawyering the truth just came out. You believed when the paper wrote all the stuff bad about her why cant you believe when they say charges were dropped?

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Originally posted by vick13:
Main reason I'm suspicious of the "specialists" is that every drug addict I've ever known (and yep, I've known/treated several) always have several ongoing conditions that just absolutely require narcotics. Problem with that is the truly recovering addicts I know (and up, I've known/treated several) always figure out another way of dealing with the pain.

And these conditions usually involve back pain and surgeries, jaw surgeries, and chronic headaches. Every single time.

And every legitimate physician I know (and yep, I know several) does not prescribe narcotics to a truly recovering addict. There are alternatives.


So you can see where her back and jaw pain being treated with narcotics sends up a red flag? Although, considering her position and past problems I would think she'd be aware of all the dangers of her current treatments.

Just worked with a woman who has had every tooth pulled one at a time with subsequent pain prescriptions. She's had five back surgeries for chronic pain with subsequent prescriptions. When that was over and she couldn't get more drugs she had wrist surgeries. When that was done she started on her head with biopsies for temporal arteritis. More pain meds. On and on.

from one nurse to another..everything you said is true and goes on daily. might even be your preacher or your kids teacher. and funny thing is..i think i know the temporal arteritis lady. sadly enough, when i broke my wrist in two places last year..i got a script for 15 lortab 5/500 in the ER. THAT really lasted a long time..that dang wrist HURT !! so when i saw the ortho in two days, i was nearly out of the baby-dose lortab and they weren't really helping much anyhow. sweet ortho gave me mepergan fortis. knocked me OUT..THEN i couldn't work HAHA. but i digress ! my point (before i started rambling) was that a bunch of junkies have scared ER docs from providing proper pain management for NON junkies in a temporary situation. it sucks.

Did you read the paper today?

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Originally posted by sonyastandridge:
All charges dropped, she is innocent. It kills some of you that your wrong. Just admit it. Its not fancy lawyering the truth just came out. You believed when the paper wrote all the stuff bad about her why cant you believe when they say charges were dropped?

you must not have read the word "jursidiction" in the article. that's not ABSOLVED..that's called "someone screwed up really bad."

Did you read that there was a reason for all of her doctors visits and her meds. There was nothing illegal done.

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Originally posted by sonyastandridge:
Did you read that there was a reason for all of her doctors visits and her meds. There was nothing illeagal done.

{yawn}
hey sonya, you ever heard that old country song "ocean-front property in Arizona?"

i'll be very open and honest here...k? someone i love very much has a terrible long-term addiction to painkillers. and guess what? he has a dang good reason for every one of his meds. and when he can't get any more meds for that "reason," he finds a new surgery or ailment or bad tooth that requires narcotics. if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..it's more than likely a DUCK. i'll let you argue nonsense with yourself for awhile. it's been a long day. peace out.

so grumpy

Im happy because Brenda is innocent.....

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Originally posted by sonyastandridge:
Did you read that there was a reason for all of her doctors visits and her meds. There was nothing illegal done.

None of that was proven in court by witnesses. What was decided in court that the case may have been filed in the wrong court, so the charges were dismissed from the Lauderdale County court system.

I have no dog in this race whatsover. I have no reason to care whether she is guilty or not guilty. But the actions that brought her court case to a conclusion at this time have nothing to do with whether she is guilty or not...they only have to do with the case being filed in the wrong court.

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Originally posted by Sassy Kims:

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Originally posted by sonyastandridge:
Did you read that there was a reason for all of her doctors visits and her meds. There was nothing illegal done.

None of that was proven in court by witnesses. What was decided in court that the case may have been filed in the wrong court, so the charges were dismissed from the Lauderdale County court system.

I have no dog in this race whatsover. I have no reason to care whether she is guilty or not guilty. But the actions that brought her court case to a conclusion at this time have nothing to do with whether she is guilty or not...they only have to do with the case being filed in the wrong court.

can i get an AMEN?? and yeah, sonya..i'm grumpy no harm intended. i just call em' as a read em'.

Connolly said that although the charges were dismissed, the Lauderdale County Drug Task Force will continue to investigate.

"We hope it does continue," Holt said of the investigation. "It can do nothing but confirm our stance."

wonder why he said that?????? maybe because she is innocent and has nothing to hide.