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I'd like to thank the cowards who run a page at FB with the title above.  They have demonstrated the petty, judgmental, bigoted, reactionary, and downright stupid behavior I have come to expect from Southern cultural Christians.

 

In their rantings, they have threatened Shoals atheists who may or may not have anything to do with the LCBOE issue with boycotts, violence, and ostracism.

 

They have done everything I could have possibly expected to demonstrate the hatred, bigotry, ignorance, and ugliness that defines Southern Christianity.

 

If I have not made one point over the last few years here, they have done if for me.  Their behavior is precisely the ignorant, hateful, and anachronistic result of unexamined religion that I've complained about for decades.  Thanks again, BHLWP, y'all have shown more of what Jesus can do for the soul in three days than I have in years.  I could not have asked for more.  The hatred and stupidity displayed on that site can only urge a thinking mind to an alternative option.  I'm entirely grateful.

 

I don't hate them.  I pity them.  I hope they get better.

 

DF

Make time for great justice.  Expect us.

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I just looked at their page and it appears that either you are not telling the truth or that if there is a hint of truth to anything that you said that perhaps you might have dug deep on the page and found where one or two of the 3424 members of the page might have gotten a little over zealous. 

You should be ashamed.

Originally Posted by BFred07:

I just looked at their page and it appears that either you are not telling the truth or that if there is a hint of truth to anything that you said that perhaps you might have dug deep on the page and found where one or two of the 3424 members of the page might have gotten a little over zealous. 

You should be ashamed.

No one should be ashamed of criticizing a group that advocates anarchy. If you don't like the Constitution, there are plenty of Middle Eastern countries that would be happy to have you. The shame here belongs to the bulldog.

Hi BFred,

 

You are so right!  I have been on that Facebook page and the main theme is:  We are going to pray!  And, if atheists, secularists, and the rest of the anti-God crowd do not like -- TOUGH!  There is no law that says that a group of American citizens cannot gather outside a football stadium and pray as a group.  And, if they happen to pray loud enough for the atheists and friends to hear -- TOUGH!

 

All I can add to that Facebook page is:  AMEN!  AMEN!  AMEN!  PRAISE THE LORD FOR SUCH GOOD AMERICANS! 

 

Deep and Jimi, instead of sticking your fingers in your ears, or sticking your head in the sand, when someone prays -- maybe you should listen.   It just might make a great difference in your eternal accommodations.  Just a thought.  

 

No, I did not forget my faithful followers, Jennifer and Chick.  You, too, are included.  So, go ahead -- throw your rocks now.  I know that once you see my name on this discussion; like the wonderful fans you are -- you cannot resist following me.  So, welcome -- and God bless you!

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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Never in human history has there been so much misspelling, ignorance and malice in one place (not necessarily in that order). I think if Da Lord cares about football games and law breaking, he'd also accept prayers for moderate improvements in spelling and understanding by The Brooks Lions will pray. Oogalee Boogalee. Thank you Jeebus. Ramen.

I have seen where they have called all atheist evil. and said we made their skin crawl. They are now trying to figure out if any local businesses are owned by atheist and where local atheist work so that they can boycott those businesses. If the Christian owners don't want to loose their business then they will fire atheist that work for them. They have said that atheist parents should keep their kids at home if they don't want them to hear prayer at school, so that their children can have prayer like they want to. The local Humanist of the Shoals is having a food drive and a coat drive and they have stated that they would not donate and spread the word to others to not donate food either. This food is destined for the homeless and needy in our community. They have decided that all non-believers in the community are not worthy of the same rights as they are.

 

Some have said that Mr. Green should be ran out of town, one even said he should be shot. Of course someone came behind that post and said to be careful because someone might think that is a threat?!?!?! What else would anyone think that statement was other than a threat.

 

I am assuming this is just a bunch of people (over 3000 in our community) who aren't really Christians, right? Or is this really what Christianity is all about? No matter how many times I am told "real" Christians don't act this way, I am shown something completely different.

 

As someone who has lived here all my life, and have had to struggle to be accepted just because I don't believe in a god, this kind of intolerance and hate is even more extreme than I could have imagined.

 

 

 

You are correct, Bill Gray, in your assertion that, "There is no law that says that a group of American citizens cannot gather outside a football stadium and pray as a group."   But THAT is not the kind of prayer that was being controlled and directed by public school (governmental) authorities at Brooks High School and at other schools within the Lauderdale County school system.  The prayers over a school-controlled public address system at football games clearly constitute an endorsement by government of specific religious beliefs and thus those prayers violate the First Amendment.  Read up on these matters at http://www.aclu.org/religion-b...igion-public-schools.  The link is to a statement that is endorsed by a large number of religious groups, including the National Association of Evangelicals.

 

I have provided the above link in the hope, however faint, that the information there just might pry loose one small corner of your apparently closed mind and to small degree illuminate your understanding of this constitutional issue.  I am not holding my breath, however, since you have repeatedly demonstrated a denser-than-depleted-uranium attitude when this kind of subject has arisen on this forum.  Be comforted, though, in that you apparently have plenty of company, including the hundreds of theocratically-disposed, emotionally-obsessed ignorami on the Facebook page created to advance this lost cause.

 

If you are a praying man, Bill, I suggest that you add to your prayer list those public school officials who will receive undeserved, uncharitable, and un-Christian scorn from the ultraconservative, ultra-unconstitutional, ultra-ignorant advocates of continued unconstitutional,  government-controlled prayer in the  Lauderdale County public schools.  These officials apparently  have correctly, and wisely,  decided to discontinue this long-standing, but unconstitutional practice.  They will pay a price for their integrity, but it is a price that they should not have to pay.

Originally Posted by Contendah:

 

If you are a praying man, Bill, I suggest that you add to your prayer list those public school officials who will receive undeserved, uncharitable, and un-Christian scorn from the ultraconservative, ultra-unconstitutional, ultra-ignorant advocates of continued unconstitutional,  government-controlled prayer in the  Lauderdale County public schools.  These officials apparently  have correctly, and wisely,  decided to discontinue this long-standing, but unconstitutional practice.  They will pay a price for their integrity, but it is a price that they should not have to pay.

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You are correct again Contendah. What they have going on right now over on FB is nothing short of a witch hunt. The lynch mob mentality is getting frightening.

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Hi BFred,

There is no law that says that a group of American citizens cannot gather outside a football stadium and pray as a group.  And, if they happen to pray loud enough for the atheists and friends to hear -- TOUGH! 

No, I did not forget my faithful followers, Jennifer and Chick.  You, too, are included.  So, go ahead -- throw your rocks now.  I know that once you see my name on this discussion; like the wonderful fans you are -- you cannot resist following me.   

Bill

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Bill, you are one sad human being & no Christian! I have not said that there is such a law or that a group of American citizens cannot gather outside a football stadium and pray alone or as a group. And, if they want to pray loud enough for the atheists & friends to hear so they can show what good Christians they are, then more power to them.

It’s really sad that you have so few friends that you consider Jenn & I your faithful followers but hey if that’s what you need to build up your self esteem, go for it.

Just for the record, it’s sad that Christians have this lynch mob attitude. I just hope it doesn’t blow up in everyone’s face.

Heh.  What a flying circus.

 

Here comes the GZs' true colors.

 

This stuff is on the net where the whole world can see what backwards, ignorant, impulsive asshats many southern christians are.  No wonder they need several layers of police forces and a church on every corner.  They NEED 'em.  They're obviously animals, 

 

Way to share the love, d*#&wads.

 

 

Reading all of this going on, right now I am seriously ashamed to be an Alabama resident. 

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Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:

This stuff is on the net where the whole world can see what backwards, ignorant, impulsive asshats many southern christans are.   

Reading all of this, right now I am seriously ashamed to be an Alabama resident. 

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And all over a silly ballgame.


Naw, actually it's all over what the xtians believe is an attack on their religion.  As if atheists or anybody else could actually do away with it.

 

Do they really think we could do that?  Really?

They have stated that they would have no qualms about *shooting* Mr. Green because he defended his constitutional right.

I suppose if they believe in ghosties and fairies, then maybe they DO actually believe atheists have 'magical' powers.

 

That's pretty pathetic.

 

It's really sad that none of them have apparently actually READ the Constitution that they are so adamant about defending.  Either that or they read it like they read their bibles-cherry-picking just the parts that they agree with.

 

What these simple f#*&tards don't seem to understand is that nobody's attacking their religion...No.  Mr. Green simply complained that officials of a local school system that they were violating-

 

 (screaming through clenched teeth like Lewis Black now)

 

THE VERY CONSTITUTION THAT

THEY TEACH THEIR STUDENTS ABOUT BY OFFICIALLY ENDORSING ONE PARTICULAR RELIGION AT A PUBLIC EVENT!

 

Henceforth, xtians....If you tell me just how 'educated' you are and then act like these Brooks people............I will not believe you.

 

The example you're setting is why.

 

Actions speak louder than words.

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is too good. This bunch running around wanting to demean atheists and even christians that believe in upholding the laws of this land. Oh we could get down and dirty if we wanted to and pull the drapes back and let people see into a few of the so called good christians homes and businesses. Which businesses are they going to boycott? One of the most irritating customers we have, because he is always wanting free advice and calling us at work and home all the time, is a preacher. Does he know we're atheists? Why yes boys and girls he does.

 

 Now then, let's talk about a few businesses up here. hmmmmmm should I name names? Well anyway, let's just say there is a certain "gentleman's club" in which the majority of the "ladies" are from the Florence area, and from good "christian" families. And even though they see a lot of their "neighbors" in the "club" neither is going to mention it. Don't believe me? Come on up and check the tags on the cars in the parking lots and talk to a few people that live in the area. And I'm sure the same applies for other clubs too.

 

Out of all the clubs, bars, adult movie stores, the "adult toys" stores, how many of them could stay open and do the thriving business they do if only atheists shopped there?

How about all the little "no tell motels" around. Who keeps them packed and in business? Atheists couldn't do it even if they wanted to, there just aren't enough atheists that avail themselves of the above services. We don't.  Who gets all upset and sticks the WWJD signs in their yards and on their church signs when the question of the lottery comes up, but take their ***** up to Ardmore or other places in TN/GA to play the lottery? Don't lie, I see you there.

 

 Who kept the state line liquior stores and bars in business all those years while they were running down to vote dry in their own area? The Tn locals? LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!! Who keeps the abortion clinics open? Atheists? Again, that would be impossible.

 

Who gets arrested for public drunkeness, driving under the influence, drugs, child abuse, domestic violence, and all other assorted crimes? Only atheists?

 

 Who are you going to boycott? How about if we stood outside some of these businesses and ask the people going in if they're christians or atheists? Wouldn't that be interesting?  So who are those fine upstanding christians going to boycott? Some of these fine christians should just remember this, when you start slinging **** you better be very careful that it doesn't blow back on you. HYPOCRITES.

Originally Posted by Road Puppy:

This stuff is on the net where the whole world can see what backwards, ignorant, impulsive asshats many southern christans are.   

Reading all of this, right now I am seriously ashamed to be an Alabama resident. 

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Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

And all over a silly ballgame.

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Originally Posted by Road Puppy:

Naw, actually it's all over what the xtians believe is an attack on their religion.  

 

They have stated that they would have no qualms about *shooting* Mr. Green because he defended his constitutional right. 

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Yes, they felt it was an attack because they couldn't pray over a silly ballgame. You would think those Christians could find much more important things to pray about.

 

I hope no one ends up getting hurt. Those Christians are taking on a gang mentality & those making threats to Mr. Green should be arrested.  

Yeah you right, Best.

 

It's the equivalent of them saying "You better stop it or I'll shoot my *other* foot!"

 

 

LMAO!

 

They forget that sometimes being a majority has it's drawbacks.

 

What'd ya expect from them, semi?

 

  Like I keep saying-there's no difference between the xtians mobbing up and the raggedy band of Taliban on a mountaintop with rusty AK-47s.

 

Great big guns-Little bitty brains.

 

Again, I LOLed.

 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:
How about all the little "no tell motels" around. Who keeps them packed and in business?
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A few years ago we had friends come in from out of town. They were staying in Florence at a very nice hotel on the back side. We go by the hotel to pick them up to go for dinner. While waiting for them to come out, who comes out of one of the rooms but the Pastor of a church in Russellville, with the assistant Pastor's wife on his arm. But I'm sure they were probably just having Bible study.

Oh it would be so interesting semi. I'd love to see how that "brain trust" decided which business owner is or isn't an atheist. And how do they know which christians that own businesses support upholding the law? This could be interesting on so many levels. And what have we been posting about these churches and the "help" they give the poor? Dance to their tunes on the end of their strings or forget about it. As nsns said, this shows them for what they are much more than all our posting about them could ever do. Makes me wonder too, what if someone started a little blog devoted to showing where we saw certain people while they were "out and about" and the things they were doing, places they were shopping?

@Not Shallow, Not slim: what did you expect "Southern" Christians to do, meekly stand by, be nice and let people like you have your way? It is too funny when you atheists accuse Christians of not being Christian like when you people attempt to tread on them. And why are you voicing an opinion about this area anyway? Your profile says Pasadena, CA. Maybe you were from here and moved. Either way, none of your business and you should have bigger fish to fry out there.

This is incredibly sad and scary.  It isn't scary that people want to pray or even that they don't agree with the law or its enforcement.  It's scary that it has turned into this hateful and nasty spectacle.  All this time that prayers were being held regularly I didn't see any other groups basically having a fit about the issue (asking that the law be upheld isn't pitching a fit) and threatening these things.  

 

And of course innocent children will be hurt along with the adults, and it will be because some don't feel that others have a right to believe as they wish.  Sound familiar?

 

But I can't say enough that this is not time to "get them" or "show them" or anything of the kind.  This is the time to be reasonable and let people just be who they are without joining the fray and being hateful.  I do hope that any threats against anyone on any side are dealt with and the person stopped.  This is ridiculous and sad.

Not Shallow, Not slim: what did you expect "Southern" Christians to do, meekly stand by, be nice and let people like you have your way? It is too funny when you atheists accuse Christians of not being Christian like when you people attempt to tread on them. And why are you voicing an opinion about this area anyway? Your profile says Pasadena, CA. Maybe you were from here and moved. Either way, none of your business and you should have bigger fish to fry out there.

 

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Did you happen to catch any of bill gray's posts? He's in calif too and although he makes a big deal out of being born in this area 70 something years ago, none of his posts have ever suggested he cared enough about the area to live here, so I will expect to see your post asking him what business it is of his.  Now that "said", what we want is yes, for you so called christians to be nice and obey the law. Now if you don't want to obey the laws, or if you want to pick and choose which ones you will obey, don't be surprised when others decide they can do the same thing with laws they don't like. And what will you accomplish by trying to attack and oppress people and business owners over your refusal to obey the law?  Hypocrites.

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Originally Posted by Bob_White:

@Not Shallow, Not slim: what did you expect "Southern" Christians to do, meekly stand by, be nice and let people like you have your way? It is too funny when you atheists accuse Christians of not being Christian like when you people attempt to tread on them. And why are you voicing an opinion about this area anyway? Your profile says Pasadena, CA. Maybe you were from here and moved. Either way, none of your business and you should have bigger fish to fry out there.


Perhaps people should treat each other's beliefs or choice to not believe with respect and follow the law?  Who is treading on anyone here? No other group has been praying over the loudspeaker and wouldn't have been allowed to, so why would one group?  What kind of an example does nastiness set for anyone on any side of the issue?  Threatening to boycott people and wanting them to leave if they don't see things a certain way in a country that was founded in part on the concept of the freedom to practice or not practice religion?

 

Wow.  How about we all take a breath and stop seeing each other as "people like you" and see that we have more things in common than things that would divide us if we are thinking clearly.  No one said anyone can't pray, and this in an opportunity for all involved to be upstanding citizens and demonstrate that we are able to treat each other civilly without threats on any side.  

Originally Posted by Bob_White:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Bill Gray speaks for the majority.
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So what? Some more of that christian double standard. You have no right to ask nsns what business it is of his if you aren't willing to ask bill gray the same question.

I have dug around on the page and found where barely a handful of the page members ( out of 3416 people who were members when I just looked) are debating the issue of boycotting businesses that affiliate themselves with the Shoals Humanists, Freedom From Religion, etc. I have also found atheists the Facebook page who are posting hateful things towards the group and I come here and see greatly exaggerated postings by the people here with you acting like the majority of Christians are being hateful when that is simply a ****able lie. It amazes me to see how some of the anti-Christian crowd will take something that one or two Christians have said or done and blanket the whole group as bad for it and some of the time when making these examples (as some of the examples seen on this thread) you have even had to twist and do a little extra fabrication to make your point! This type of behavior by the anti Christian bunch is reminiscent of the pre 60's south when one black person might have been perceived to have done something wrong and the bigots used what they did to spread hate for the whole group, some of you are no better than they were!

 

   Just for the record, I do not think it's unconstitutional (but I am not sure if it might should be) for a prayer to be said over the PA but so far courts have ruled otherwise and resources are too scarce to fight it so I will respect the past rulings. I also believe that the way the Christian community pulled together after the practice came under fire and had "legal" prayer at the games with so many people gathered for it actually sent a powerful message and was a much better thing the normal and expected pre game prayer.

 

   Now a note to the Christians reading this: I am very proud of the way that most of you have handled this but I am very ashamed of a few of you! Apparently you have forgotten the saying that one bad apple spoils the whole bunch. We are supposed to be Christ like but a few of you are being all but Christ like. Some of you are talking about  how you only do business with Christians, want to start a boycott of business that are run by non Christians. I will concede that if a business owner is helping to support anti Christian causes that perhaps I would not likely do business with them but I would have to know it for a fact and it not be something that is just rumored but I might be more likely to do business with them than with some of the area companies I have seen that are quick to use Jesus a s a tool to gain customers. It is wrong of you to judge the non believers (including Mr Green) as being unsavable (remember a guy who was named Saul before his incident on the road to Damascus?, Has young Mr. Green done anything even close to as bad as he had done?) and to act in any hateful manner toward them. You should love everyone and show it! I have seen where many of you have said that it's to late for them and to just shake the dust off your feet but I would bet that not one person that wrote these things has actually shown one little sliver of love and compassion for the people you are saying this about.

 

   When you try to tell people who they should associate with then perhaps you should go to your Bible and remember that Jesus himself hung out with drunks, prostitutes, crooks, etc and that he loves everyone! Remember too that the Pharisees used the company that he kept as a major part of their case to kill him. Which one of the above does your behavior resemble?

 

No one is perfect and that includes Christians but at the same time most Christians are good people who try and show Christian love in all that they do and most realize that someone can be a good person without being a Christian. It's too bad that the bad apples are the most vocal and that sometimes even some of the good ones might get loose with their tounge before they realize they are doing something wrong.

 

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." Mahatma Gandi

When you try to tell people who they should associate with then perhaps you should go to your Bible and remember that Jesus himself hung out with drunks, prostitutes, crooks, etc and that he loves everyone!

 

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I don't hang out with that crowd and never would. I don't "do" facebook so I can't comment on who posts what on that page, but I did see the comments under the story that ran in the TD, and the comments here and other places. The latest that made me go hmmmmm are bob whites. He seems to think nsns has no right to comment because he lives in california, but sees no problem with bill gray, who also lives in california, because bill agrees with him and in his opinion "speaks for the majority".

I agree that this isn't all Christians in the FB group (I haven't read it all and have no intention of it) and that it isn't fair to lump everyone together just as not all atheists or whatever other group act alike.  There are many Christians who aren't saying hateful things, and as usual being nice or nasty is found on all sides of an issue.  It's time for everyone to take a breath and say and do things that bring the community together and don't tear it apart.  There are good people of all groups, and anyone who is nasty will be seen as such I hope on whatever side of the discussion.

Thanks Bfred for pointing out the lie on the part of DF. I don’t know if you attended the debate a Norton Auditorium but Blair Scott stated to the world that lying is an acceptable tool when used by the atheist.

DF is certainly within his atheist rights. The atheist listener is encouraged to be lifted up by these lies and to propagate the same into all the world and whoso believeth these lies are non-the-wiser.

Originally Posted by lexum:

Thanks Bfred for pointing out the lie on the part of DF. I don’t know if you attended the debate a Norton Auditorium but Blair Scott stated to the world that lying is an acceptable tool when used by the atheist.

DF is certainly within his atheist rights. The atheist listener is encouraged to be lifted up by these lies and to propagate the same into all the world and whoso believeth these lies are non-the-wiser.

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What lie on his part? And "told the world" from Norton Auditorium? You must live in a small world. Besides, that is not what he said. I see the true buffalo is coming out, won't be long now and we'll be seeing the last of lexum too. No one encourages me to lie, but you can't say the same.

Since the USA was founded our currency has read IN GOD WE TRUST.  We are a democracy and majority rules in a democracy.  Coucil meetings have prayer before they begin, elected officials put their hands on  the Bible when they are sworn into office, if you testify in court you are sworn in with your hand on the Bible.  The first amendment states we have freedom of speech and that should mean everyone should be free to stand up for what they believe in.  I am proud of the students and others who stand up for their beliefs.  If you object to prayer but want to see a ball game wait until the game has started to attend. God Bless the USA and the state of Alabama!

Originally Posted by lexum:

Thanks Bfred for pointing out the lie on the part of DF. I don’t know if you attended the debate a Norton Auditorium but Blair Scott stated to the world that lying is an acceptable tool when used by the atheist.

DF is certainly within his atheist rights. The atheist listener is encouraged to be lifted up by these lies and to propagate the same into all the world and whoso believeth these lies are non-the-wiser.


I have no idea who Scott is and do not care to be lumped with people I don't know, thanks.  You are misinformed if you think atheists generally lie any more than anyone else..including Christians.  That is an unfounded statement, but I do agree it makes a nice soundbite for you. Whatever one person said or didn't doesn't represent anyone else, just as what one Christian says doesn't represent what all Christians believe.  You can't have it both ways.

"In God We Trust" was adopted as the official motto of the United States in 1956. It is also the motto of the U.S. state of Florida. The phrase has appeared on U.S. coins since 1864 and on paper currency since 1957.[1] Its Spanish equivalent, En Dios Confiamos, is the motto of the Central American nation of Nicaragua.[2]

 

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Keep trying to re-write history. No, better yet, study history a bit.

Originally Posted by SHOALS,LOVER:

Since the USA was founded our currency has read IN GOD WE TRUST.  We are a democracy and majority rules in a democracy.  Coucil meetings have prayer before they begin, elected officials put their hands on  the Bible when they are sworn into office, if you testify in court you are sworn in with your hand on the Bible.  The first amendment states we have freedom of speech and that should mean everyone should be free to stand up for what they believe in.  I am proud of the students and others who stand up for their beliefs.  If you object to prayer but want to see a ball game wait until the game has started to attend. God Bless the USA and the state of Alabama!


You are right.  Things have been run by one group for a long time (you made the point that one group is choosing for everyone), and any time any other group simply asks to be treated fairly there are attacks and there is nastiness.  Swearing in on a Bible is silly anyway if you think about it. 

Originally Posted by Bob_White:

@Not Shallow, Not slim: what did you expect "Southern" Christians to do, meekly stand by, be nice and let people like you have your way? It is too funny when you atheists accuse Christians of not being Christian like when you people attempt to tread on them. And why are you voicing an opinion about this area anyway? Your profile says Pasadena, CA. Maybe you were from here and moved. Either way, none of your business and you should have bigger fish to fry out there.

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Since our resident pseudo-theologian, Bill Gray, also lives in California, perhaps you would like to advise him that he, too, has no business on this forum.

 

Seriously, frog, there is no reason why someone from outside the Shoals can not participate in  these discussions. 

Originally Posted by frog:
Originally Posted by lexum:

Thanks Bfred for pointing out the lie on the part of DF. I don’t know if you attended the debate a Norton Auditorium but Blair Scott stated to the world that lying is an acceptable tool when used by the atheist.

DF is certainly within his atheist rights. The atheist listener is encouraged to be lifted up by these lies and to propagate the same into all the world and whoso believeth these lies are non-the-wiser.


I have no idea who Scott is and do not care to be lumped with people I don't know, thanks.  You are misinformed if you think atheists generally lie any more than anyone else..including Christians.  That is an unfounded statement, but I do agree it makes a nice soundbite for you. Whatever one person said or didn't doesn't represent anyone else, just as what one Christian says doesn't represent what all Christians believe.  You can't have it both ways.

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i might just like you frog.

Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Bob_White:

@Not Shallow, Not slim: what did you expect "Southern" Christians to do, meekly stand by, be nice and let people like you have your way? It is too funny when you atheists accuse Christians of not being Christian like when you people attempt to tread on them. And why are you voicing an opinion about this area anyway? Your profile says Pasadena, CA. Maybe you were from here and moved. Either way, none of your business and you should have bigger fish to fry out there.

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Since our resident pseudo-theologian, Bill Gray, also lives in California, perhaps you would like to advise him that he, too, has no business on this forum.

 

Seriously, frog, there is no reason why someone from outside the Shoals can not participate in  these discussions. 


It does seem to me that either anyone can post and be welcomed (with exceptions...behavior theoretically matters) then one person shouldn't be singled out for not being eligible.  I don't see what the difference would be if one can anyone can, or make it private to locals...can't have it both ways and select who we happen to agree with I would say.

Originally Posted by Bob_White:

@Not Shallow, Not slim: what did you expect "Southern" Christians to do, meekly stand by, be nice and let people like you have your way? It is too funny when you atheists accuse Christians of not being Christian like when you people attempt to tread on them. And why are you voicing an opinion about this area anyway? Your profile says Pasadena, CA. Maybe you were from here and moved. Either way, none of your business and you should have bigger fish to fry out there.

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Of course Christians should not meekly stand by, be nice and let the non-believers have their way. They should grab onto that gang mentality, threaten to shoot people & boycott businesses. They should sell t-shirts to afford a lawyer & forget about those adults & children that are hungry & cold. (In case you don't get it, that was sarcasm in the highest form!)

 

NSNS shouldn't be allowed to post here because he's from California???? What about Bill Gray????

Shouldn't Bill mind his own business????

 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Oh it would be so interesting semi. I'd love to see how that "brain trust" decided which business owner is or isn't an atheist. And how do they know which christians that own businesses support upholding the law? This could be interesting on so many levels. And what have we been posting about these churches and the "help" they give the poor? Dance to their tunes on the end of their strings or forget about it. As nsns said, this shows them for what they are much more than all our posting about them could ever do. Makes me wonder too, what if someone started a little blog devoted to showing where we saw certain people while they were "out and about" and the things they were doing, places they were shopping?

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Threats from an atheist? What's the difference between threatening to boycott businesses, and threatening to start a tell-all blog? Oh alright, I'll answer. Boycotting businesses is perfectly legal. Running a blog that mentions people's names in regard to compromising situations is not. You could easily be sued, whereas those who threaten boycotts are exercising their constitutional rights. And, after all, that's what this debate is all about.

 

So Jennifer once again comes across as ready to defend the constitution when it matches her agenda, but not so much when it doesn't. Jennifer is a die-hard Republican who keeps trying to say that DEMOCRATS are using religion to further their agenda, when we all know that is the provence of the Republicans. Jennifer complains that missionaries to foreign countries do more preaching than feeding, and yet she is on record here many times stating that all foreign aid should be completely cut.

 

Does anyone else here see the inconsistancies in Jennifer's thought processes? It seems to me that Jennifer wants to be very vocal about all sorts of things she hasn't really thought out. She seems rather confused to me.

 

Originally Posted by frog:
Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Bob_White:

@Not Shallow, Not slim: what did you expect "Southern" Christians to do, meekly stand by, be nice and let people like you have your way? It is too funny when you atheists accuse Christians of not being Christian like when you people attempt to tread on them. And why are you voicing an opinion about this area anyway? Your profile says Pasadena, CA. Maybe you were from here and moved. Either way, none of your business and you should have bigger fish to fry out there.

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Since our resident pseudo-theologian, Bill Gray, also lives in California, perhaps you would like to advise him that he, too, has no business on this forum.

 

Seriously, frog, there is no reason why someone from outside the Shoals can not participate in  these discussions. 


It does seem to me that if anyone can post and be welcomed (with exceptions...behavior theoretically matters) then one person shouldn't be singled out for not being eligible.  I don't see what the difference would be if one can anyone can, or make it private to locals...can't have it both ways and select whom we happen to agree with I would say.

Originally Posted by SHOALS,LOVER:

Coucil meetings have prayer before they begin, elected officials put their hands on  the Bible when they are sworn into office, if you testify in court you are sworn in with your hand on the Bible.  The first amendment states we have freedom of speech and that should mean everyone should be free to stand up for what they believe in.  I am proud of the students and others who stand up for their beliefs.  If you object to prayer but want to see a ball game wait until the game has started to attend. God Bless the USA and the state of Alabama!

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So you really believe that everyone that lays their hand on a Bible & swears to tell the truth is going to tell the truth???

There's a difference in standing up for what you believe in & threatening others if they don't do what you want.

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