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Originally Posted by BFred07:

I just looked at their page and it appears that either you are not telling the truth

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I saw several of those threatening post by the Christians on FB. When I went back later they were gone. They were either deleted by the owner or by the ones that were making the threats. Either way, they were there at one time.

Originally Posted by O No!:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

 

So Jennifer once again comes across as ready to defend the constitution when it matches her agenda, but not so much when it doesn't. Jennifer is a die-hard Republican who keeps trying to say that DEMOCRATS are using religion to further their agenda, when we all know that is the provence of the Republicans. Jennifer complains that missionaries to foreign countries do more preaching than feeding, and yet she is on record here many times stating that all foreign aid should be completely cut.

 

Does anyone else here see the inconsistancies in Jennifer's thought processes? It seems to me that Jennifer wants to be very vocal about all sorts of things she hasn't really thought out. She seems rather confused to me.

Jennifer?? Where is this post by Jennifer you are referring to? I fully agree that atheist owned businesses should not be named in a public forum. If someone wants to know that information, a little searching and asking questions is all it takes. Case in point, people don't seem to mind buying gas from stations owned by Muslim middle easterners.
 
On the other hand, and it is off-topic, I agree with this Jennifer on foreign aid. We can't seem to adequately support our on country (unless it's a bailout) and we continue to send billions overseas. 

 

Threats from an atheist? What's the difference between threatening to boycott businesses, and threatening to start a tell-all blog? Oh alright, I'll answer. Boycotting businesses is perfectly legal. Running a blog that mentions people's names in regard to compromising situations is not. You could easily be sued, whereas those who threaten boycotts are exercising their constitutional rights. And, after all, that's what this debate is all about.

 

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Care to show me where I made any kind of threat? So you boycott, tell me how you decide which businesses to boycott? I said I wonder how they'd like it if their life was put out there like they love to see when it's done to others. How am I confused? Go on genius, tell me how you and the rest of the brain trust will decide which businesses to boycott? And are you going to even try to tell me that it is only republicans that are jumping on the "boycott" bandwagon? Talk about faulty thought processes. You retread.

Originally Posted by BFred07:

I just looked at their page and it appears that either you are not telling the truth or that if there is a hint of truth to anything that you said that perhaps you might have dug deep on the page and found where one or two of the 3424 members of the page might have gotten a little over zealous. 

You should be ashamed.

 

Overzealous, Fred? First I'm a Christian. I'm not prefect, but I try to do better each day. I have great friends (I hope) who are atheists. Should I tell NSNS to go to hell? Well, only when he wants a dollar for those orphans of his.

 

These people have let anger and irrational thought rule the day. I have friends who have joined the group. I will not join since they are advocating illegal acts.

 

On their behalf, many mean well and have discouraged others from atheist bashing.

The title of the page and this thread (not saying the original poster chose was) a bit strange.  Once again, of course the Brooks High Lions who choose to will pray just as they have as long as they chose to pray.  No one is saying they couldn't.  It really would be more accurate to say "Some Brooks High Lions Will Pray", but it is interesting no one said they couldn't.

Originally Posted by Road Puppy:

Heh.  What a flying circus.

 

Here comes the GZs' true colors.

 

This stuff is on the net where the whole world can see what backwards, ignorant, impulsive asshats many southern christians are.  No wonder they need several layers of police forces and a church on every corner.  They NEED 'em.  They're obviously animals, 

 

Way to share the love, d*#&wads.

 

 

Reading all of this going on, right now I am seriously ashamed to be an Alabama resident. 

 

 

Road Puppy, you said a mouthful, but I would like to point out something you missed. Sadly, in Alabama...and everywhere...most of the populace do not have either the IQ or education to think logically. Perhaps they can't do anything about the IQ, but they can do something about the education if they only would.

 

Only two percent in any population have what is called superior intellect, and I will assume we have a larger percentage here on this forum. Go out into the public each day and you'll find quite a number of atheists, etc., with low IQs as well as Christians.

Originally Posted by O No!:
Threats from an atheist? What's the difference between threatening to boycott businesses, and threatening to start a tell-all blog? Oh alright, I'll answer. Boycotting businesses is perfectly legal. Running a blog that mentions people's names in regard to compromising situations is not. You could easily be sued, whereas those who threaten boycotts are exercising their constitutional rights.
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From what I read on Facebook those "Christians" are wanting to boycott business of Atheist & non-believers, really anyone that is/was against prayer before a ballgame. Boycotting a business may be legal but very dangerous. When the public see's a business that is boycotted over this, that is telling the public that business owner is an Atheist or a non-believer.
With all the nutcases in this world, how do we know one of them wouldn't be a nutcase Christian that gets it into their head to go in shooting to rid the world of something they don't like?

 

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:
How about all the little "no tell motels" around. Who keeps them packed and in business?
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A few years ago we had friends come in from out of town. They were staying in Florence at a very nice hotel on the back side. We go by the hotel to pick them up to go for dinner. While waiting for them to come out, who comes out of one of the rooms but the Pastor of a church in Russellville, with the assistant Pastor's wife on his arm. But I'm sure they were probably just having Bible study.

 

Who keeps them in business? Mainly sex offenders who should have remained in jail. Those and out of town workers whose companies won't pop for better housing. It's the sex offenders we should be concerned about.

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
Originally Posted by O No!:
Threats from an atheist? What's the difference between threatening to boycott businesses, and threatening to start a tell-all blog? Oh alright, I'll answer. Boycotting businesses is perfectly legal. Running a blog that mentions people's names in regard to compromising situations is not. You could easily be sued, whereas those who threaten boycotts are exercising their constitutional rights.
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From what I read on Facebook those "Christians" are wanting to boycott business of Atheist & non-believers, really anyone that is/was against prayer before a ballgame. Boycotting a business may be legal but very dangerous. When the public see's a business that is boycotted over this, that is telling the public that business owner is an Atheist or a non-believer.
With all the nutcases in this world, how do we know one of them wouldn't be a nutcase Christian that gets it into their head to go in shooting to rid the world of something they don't like?

 


Semi, that is some tiny print.  I had to squinch my eyes and lean forward

 

Let's just hope that reason prevails and this calms down before anyone is verbally or physically abused or worse.  Lots of breathing slowlllllyyyy.....

Originally Posted by FirenzeVeritas:
Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:
How about all the little "no tell motels" around. Who keeps them packed and in business?
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A few years ago we had friends come in from out of town. They were staying in Florence at a very nice hotel on the back side. We go by the hotel to pick them up to go for dinner. While waiting for them to come out, who comes out of one of the rooms but the Pastor of a church in Russellville, with the assistant Pastor's wife on his arm. But I'm sure they were probably just having Bible study.

 

Who keeps them in business? Mainly sex offenders who should have remained in jail. Those and out of town workers whose companies won't pop for better housing. It's the sex offenders we should be concerned about.


Yes, sex offenders go to place such as that, but "upstanding citizens" do too, and they are from all groups or people.  That is the truth.

Originally Posted by FirenzeVeritas:

I haven't read all the posts on the FB page (who could?), but I did see one member mention names of towns and oddly only one local business. He's entitled to start a boycott if he wishes. That's our freedom, remember.

 

As for that business, I hope the owner remembers what freedom of speech is and ...

He's welcome to a free ad on The Connection!

Originally Posted by FirenzeVeritas:
Sadly, in Alabama......most of the populace do not have either the IQ or education to think logically. Perhaps they can't do anything about the IQ, but they can do something about the education if they only would.

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I strongly disagree. My guess is that most of the populace does have the IQ and/or education to think logically. If you don't like Alabama, move!

I would bet your IQ isn't what you try to lead us to believe it is.

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
Originally Posted by FirenzeVeritas:
Sadly, in Alabama......most of the populace do not have either the IQ or education to think logically. Perhaps they can't do anything about the IQ, but they can do something about the education if they only would.

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I strongly disagree. My guess is that most of the populace does have the IQ and/or education to think logically. If you don't like Alabama, move!

I would bet your IQ isn't what you try to lead us to believe it is.


Semi, I am using (as many like to chant) empirical evidence. Look at ACT or SAT scores and see what percentage is judged exceptional.

 

However, if the an IQ of 140-179 is considered gifted, we need to remember that if all IQs fell by 40 points due to chemical damage or whatever, then an IQ of 100 would be gifted. IQs are relative.

 

Looking at the FB page in question I see posters who can't spell and don't know even basic tenets of our government. Yes, they have a right to speak, but I at least try to do some basic research before I put one of my tired feet in my mouth.

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
Originally Posted by FirenzeVeritas:
Sadly, in Alabama......most of the populace do not have either the IQ or education to think logically. Perhaps they can't do anything about the IQ, but they can do something about the education if they only would.

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I strongly disagree. My guess is that most of the populace does have the IQ and/or education to think logically. If you don't like Alabama, move!

I would bet your IQ isn't what you try to lead us to believe it is.

 

 

Semi, all IQ tests are different. Usually they are divided into groups of four or more. My highest rating is as a verbalist at 155. My ACT was 29 my junior year--didn't take it my senior year. Your turn.

 

And...no, I have no idea how an internal combustion engine works or most anything mechanical. That's why all IQs are relative, but it does mean I know how to think for myself.

Well, let's see. We have this:

Now then, let's talk about a few businesses up here. hmmmmmm should I name names? Well anyway, let's just say there is a certain "gentleman's club" in which the majority of the "ladies" are from the Florence area, and from good "christian" families. And even though they see a lot of their "neighbors" in the "club" neither is going to mention it. Don't believe me? Come on up and check the tags on the cars in the parking lots and talk to a few people that live in the area. And I'm sure the same applies for other clubs too.

 

Out of all the clubs, bars, adult movie stores, the "adult toys" stores, how many of them could stay open and do the thriving business they do if only atheists shopped there?

How about all the little "no tell motels" around. Who keeps them packed and in business? Atheists couldn't do it even if they wanted to, there just aren't enough atheists that avail themselves of the above services. We don't.  Who gets all upset and sticks the WWJD signs in their yards and on their church signs when the question of the lottery comes up, but take their ***** up to Ardmore or other places in TN/GA to play the lottery? Don't lie, I see you there.

 

 

And in your very next post you said this:

 Makes me wonder too, what if someone started a little blog devoted to showing where we saw certain people while they were "out and about" and the things they were doing, places they were shopping?

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If a Christian had posted veiled threats like this you'd jump all over them, so why don't you stop playing the innocent and pretending you don't know what I'm talking about.

 

I have already stated that I believe we should follow the constitution on this matter. But praying in the parking lot and deciding to boycott businesses IS constitutional. If it's the constitution you're so worried about, you should be glad these people are able to use their freedom of speech. If it's just hate for all things Christian, then you should just come out and say it instead of pretending to be concerned about people's constitutional rights. you've already shown yourself to be a hypocrite. You've already shown that you don't think things through. All I'm doing is pointing that out, once again.

Originally Posted by FirenzeVeritas:
My highest rating is as a verbalist at 155. My ACT was 29 my junior year--didn't take it my senior year. Your turn.

That's why all IQs are relative, but it does mean I know how to think for myself.

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Your highest? So you had lower numbers?

I refuse to toot my own horn so I'll just say I'm very  pleased with my scores. I would say that the majority of people know how to think for themselves. I don't have low opinions of others as you seem to have.

 

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
Originally Posted by FirenzeVeritas:
My highest rating is as a verbalist at 155. My ACT was 29 my junior year--didn't take it my senior year. Your turn.

That's why all IQs are relative, but it does mean I know how to think for myself.

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Your highest? So you had lower numbers?

I refuse to toot my own horn so I'll just say I'm very  pleased with my scores. I would say that the majority of people know how to think for themselves. I don't have low opinions of others as you seem to have.

 


Yes, semi, I certainly have. My math has been charted no higher than 126 and lower on some exams. I don't claim to be a math genius.

 

Do I have a low opinion of others? Well, that would depend. When young people waste their minds by dropping out of high school, having umpteen illegitimate children, living on welfare, then yes I have the cognitive ability to see that they are not taking advantage of their abilities or the free opportunities offered to them in the world of education.

 

I also see adults who make no effort to improve the world around them. Even if they have high IQs, they're wasting them. I'm a firm believer in the mantra of Thomas A. Edison.

 

When all is said and done, what will be in our obituaries?

OMG! These people are nuts over on the FB page. They have now started in about the Pack them with Love, which sends food home with children over the weekend that might not get anything to eat before they come back to school on Monday. Some how they found out that the local Humanists group is making a donation to their cause. The woman who runs that charity is a very strong Christian believer. If they keep this up they are going to cause a lot of children and families to suffer due to their hatred and intolerance. Oh yeah and their complete ignorance.

Originally Posted by DarkAngel:

OMG! These people are nuts over on the FB page. They have now started in about the Pack them with Love, which sends food home with children over the weekend that might not get anything to eat before they come back to school on Monday. Some how they found out that the local Humanists group is making a donation to their cause. The woman who runs that charity is a very strong Christian believer. If they keep this up they are going to cause a lot of children and families to suffer due to their hatred and intolerance. Oh yeah and their complete ignorance.

 I couldn't find it on their page where they were attacking Sarah or Sydney's Safe Foundation but if they are that shows that there are ignorant people to be found in every crowd. Sarah is about as true a Christian as they get and I personally believe that she's beyond reproach. If there was anything posted about her or SSF's Pack them with love program then I am sure that someone has set them in their place by now.

Originally Posted by FirenzeVeritas
Originally Posted by FirenzeVeritas:
Sadly, in Alabama......most of the populace do not have either the IQ or education to think logically. Perhaps they can't do anything about the IQ, but they can do something about the education if they only would.

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Semi, I am using (as many like to chant) empirical evidence. Look at ACT or SAT scores and see what percentage is judged exceptional.

 

 

 

Where are you getting your stats for Alabama from? Below is what I found and even though the score are nothing to be proud of, most are above average in Alabama and contradict what you wrote.

Alabama ranked:

39th on ACT scores (at least we're not Mississippi)

19th SAT writing

18th SAT reading

18th SAT math


 

If a Christian had posted veiled threats like this you'd jump all over them, so why don't you stop playing the innocent and pretending you don't know what I'm talking about.

 

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I'm not playing the innocent and I know exactly what you're talking about. Because I said how would they like it you twist it to mean a threat from me. I am allowed to ask anyone at anytime how they'd like something done to them that they so enjoy doing to others and it's not a threat, So you can go crawl back into your hole.

I don't LIVE in a hole, Jennifer, but YOU are digging a pretty deep one for yourself. Carry on...

 

Oh really? Going to report me ohno? For what? Telling the truth? Have at it. I will say it again, they would be crying like babies if someone did to them what they want done to atheists that own businesses. And none of you geniuses have explained how they will know who to boycott.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Well you do know who that is don't you AR?

I don't. It doesn't matter. I'm trying to point out the type of crazies and the comments they allow to go unchallenged in the name of Jesus.  Yesterday, John Schaefer (don't know who he is either) was naming what he thought were atheists (to target their places of work) and ignorantly cast several Christians into the fire in his angry Jesus-filled witch hunt. Brooks Lions will pray LOVED it and were praising him, his "investigation" and calling for heads as they justified a war, over and over.

Where is the love of Christs in the supposed "real" Christians on the page? Why won't they stand up for what's moral and righteous, I wonder?

And what about all the violence that's threatened in the comments section of the Times Daily story: http://www.timesdaily.com/stor...egame-prayers,183602. Apparently, you can't say "ga y" or "re****tion" on the forum ...but you can threaten to bash the faces of atheists for supporting the Constitution or tell them to keep their kids from school or threaten their employment. If those aren't "real" Christians saying this, where are the "real" ones to counter the hate and lynch mentality? Where does the Times Daily stand on hate speech and threats of violence? I've reported comments in the past to absolutely no avail. Interesting how that works.

 

Yet, we're the bad guys.

 

No, Jennifer. Why would I report you? What I was speaking of was the way you are showing your true colors to the people on this forum. Keep it up and even the atheists will want to distance themselves from you.

 

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 I don't hide who I am. I haven't changed the way I think or post one time. If people don't know where I stand on issues by now it isn't because I've been hiding anything-they just haven't been paying attention. Showing my true colors how? Do you think you're some sort of "sacred cow" that I'm not supposed to respond to? You and everyone else posting here should know by now I don't give a flip what ohno thinks. Got it? As far as my statement about morals, yes, I absolutely feel I am as moral or more moral than the christians. Now if you don't like hearing that you and others can stop making statements about the atheists morals and "souls" among other things.

Here we go woth the education thing again.  Get over yourselves.

 

I personally know a couple guys back up north who have college degrees and very well paying jobs-but can't figure out how to dress themselves.  They hire people to dress them, like infants.

 

I know at least one idiot savant who can pass the ACT and SAT standing on his head while drinking a Gatorade and whistling "My Sharona" through his ears-but can't figure out which hole food goes in and how to clean the other end later.

 

Just because ya got book smarts-doesn't mean you ARE smart.

Ever heard the term "educated idiot?"

I see obiously highly educated people all day long driving their high-end cars down a four-lane highway WITHOUT LOOKING WHERE THEY'RE GOING because they're trying to text and drive at the same time.

 

Don'tcha tell me boutcher 'education.'  It's kinda a moot point if you're HUA to start with.

 

RP, I think you're the one who mentioned dumb southerners and veered the thread in that direction. We're not all dumb, but many are too lazy to get an education. I know a young man who is now 23. He dropped out of school, has had several STIs, several arrests, and just married a pregnant woman with three children and no ex-husbands. He's not even sure the baby is his. Now there is someone with intelligence, but no common sense. Unfortunately, Alabama seems to have more than its share.

 

Fred, exceptional doesn't mean being in the top 50%. It means being in the top 2%, according to most definitions, but remember, that changes each year the test is given.

Originally Posted by FirenzeVeritas:

 

Fred, exceptional doesn't mean being in the top 50%. It means being in the top 2%, according to most definitions, but remember, that changes each year the test is given.


You really didn't say much in your claim about being exceptional, you claimed Alabama was far below average but even with the sorry showing on the ACT when combining all 4, Alabama shows to be at the top 47% but with the SAT's alone Alabama is in the top 37%. Added to that, I would bet that North Alabama is a notch or three above the rest of the State so the people here are a little smarter than what you will find in other regions. As for your expert evaluation from a sample of a few people's writting, there are plenty of people with advanced degrees in math & science who couldn't pass a spelling test if their life depended on it and you should know that.

I was a little shocked by what you wrote so I went and looked for myself, why don't you actually quote what the guy said instead of trying to deceive people, from what I saw he didn;t say anything threatening or out of line. You seem to be one of the hateful atheists that he refered to.[Bfred]

 

BFred I went and looked ON FACEBOOK myself you are correct: the guy said nothing of the sort.

Just a made-up lie by Robustus. Oh I completely forgot Blair Scott told him it is ok for the atheist to lie.

Originally Posted by A. Robustus:
Originally Posted by DarkAngel:

OMG! These people are nuts over on the FB page. They have now started in about the Pack them with Love, which sends food home with children over the weekend that might not get anything to eat before they come back to school on Monday. Some how they found out that the local Humanists group is making a donation to their cause. The woman who runs that charity is a very strong Christian believer. If they keep this up they are going to cause a lot of children and families to suffer due to their hatred and intolerance. Oh yeah and their complete ignorance.

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There's a Larry E Jaynes posting there now that sounds like a total raving lunatic, talking about cutting throats and doing horrible things to children. Good lord! They don't admonish or delete him but will not even allow reasonable Christians to question the evil and vengeful direction that the page has been taking for several days. Never mind that they won't allow any non-Christian to even post a response in defense of the Constitution, repeatedly claiming that they're only there to cause trouble. Yet Larry Jaynes is ok to talk about gritting teeth and earthquakes and "hateful" atheists? OK

It's only taken a few days to reach this fevered mob level. Where are all the moral Christians to stomp these people down with the love exemplified by Jesus?


 

I haven't been to this facebook page, but if the person you mentioned is rram, he says he is not a Christian.  Perhaps that's the problem.  It would be quite easy to join, claim to be a Christian and then act a fool.

 

Y'all are seriously this upset over a facebook page?  It seems rather trivial.

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Originally Posted by _Joy_:
I haven't been to this facebook page, but if the person you mentioned is rram, he says he is not a Christian.  Perhaps that's the problem.  It would be quite easy to join, claim to be a Christian and then act a fool.

Y'all are seriously this upset over a facebook page?  It seems rather trivial.

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Trivial, Joy? Even though some of the post have now been deleted, there were people with a mob mentality threatening to shoot others, or saying they should be shot, boycott businesses if the owner was found to be an Atheist or non-believer.

Yes, anyone can claim to be a Christian, several in fact, on this forum do just that. But to put your name on Facebook & make those kind of threats is just stupid. It tells people for a fact just exactly what kind of Christian they are.

Kind of like Bill Gray shouting to the world he's a Christian & showing on this forum that he is not but people are supposed to be dumb enough to believe him.

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