Bush Haters: Do NOT Read This

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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
I find the good in those things not designed to elicit an emotion. I dont like tricks, I dont like easy emotional responses. One does not hire a C.E.O. for a large corporation based on his ability to say sweet things to the office staff. You hire a C.E.O. based on his ability to make deals, produce success for the company and accomplish the expected results. The presidency of the United States is no popularity contest, its the management of the Free World - a bigger job than being Little Miss Sunshine after a disaster in Enterprise Al. I reserve my sentimental moments for other things.

Wow, you're not mean as a snake, you're heartless and, most likely, a coward. The facade of "oh-don't-step-to-me-I am-too-strong-for-emotion" has just fallen to the ground with your past posts.

Again, I can't stand Bush, but even if half of this is true, it still rocks that he's not all gone.

You, and people like you, are the reason politics in America are so divisive. Political lines are not friendship lines. This idea that people of different political views must incessantly "dog" the other side, especially in light of an act of kindness done for fellow Alabamians, is more than ridiculous, it's downright repressive.

I don't like Bush, but he is a human, like the rest of us, and if you're going to point out his bad notes so religiously, you have to be equally ready to accept the good. Otherwise, you are no better than the media, and you are certainly not a seeker of truth.

You should call things that are as they are.

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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
I find the good in those things not designed to elicit an emotion. I dont like tricks, I dont like easy emotional responses. One does not hire a C.E.O. for a large corporation based on his ability to say sweet things to the office staff. You hire a C.E.O. based on his ability to make deals, produce success for the company and accomplish the expected results. The presidency of the United States is no popularity contest, its the management of the Free World - a bigger job than being Little Miss Sunshine after a disaster in Enterprise Al. I reserve my sentimental moments for other things.

It seems I remember Mr. Clinton saying sweet things to the office staff; and doing not-so-sweet things WITH the office staff . . .

I dont like little sweet stories produced by Democrats OR Republicans. So amusing how touchy some of you get just because I dont get all weepy over this story. Hard to beleave you would actually call me names like "coward, and heartless" over this. It sort looks like hypocracy to be so attached to such sentimental, spiritually inspiring stories and then lash out at those who are not. "Feel the way I do - or you are a "heartless coward". Its kinda funny.

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Originally posted by one who posts:

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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
I find the good in those things not designed to elicit an emotion. I dont like tricks, I dont like easy emotional responses. One does not hire a C.E.O. for a large corporation based on his ability to say sweet things to the office staff. You hire a C.E.O. based on his ability to make deals, produce success for the company and accomplish the expected results. The presidency of the United States is no popularity contest, its the management of the Free World - a bigger job than being Little Miss Sunshine after a disaster in Enterprise Al. I reserve my sentimental moments for other things.

Wow, you're not mean as a snake, you're heartless and, most likely, a coward. The facade of "oh-don't-step-to-me-I am-too-strong-for-emotion" has just fallen to the ground with your past posts.

Again, I can't stand Bush, but even if half of this is true, it still rocks that he's not all gone.

You, and people like you, are the reason politics in America are so divisive. Political lines are not friendship lines. This idea that people of different political views must incessantly "dog" the other side, especially in light of an act of kindness done for fellow Alabamians, is more than ridiculous, it's downright repressive.

I don't like Bush, but he is a human, like the rest of us, and if you're going to point out his bad notes so religiously, you have to be equally ready to accept the good. Otherwise, you are no better than the media, and you are certainly not a seeker of truth.

You should call things that are as they are.

I agree with you ONE--thank you for putting that into perspective for me....

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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
I dont like little sweet stories produced by Democrats OR Republicans. So amusing how touchy some of you get just because I dont get all weepy over this story. Hard to beleave you would actually call me names like "coward, and heartless" over this. It sort looks like hypocracy to be so attached to such sentimental, spiritually inspiring stories and then lash out at those who are not. "Feel the way I do - or you are a "heartless coward". Its kinda funny.

I hope one of these days when tragedy hits your life that you will remember this thread -- especially when someone comes up and hugs you and speaks words of comfort to you ... I hope then you will remember where your heart is ...I know you have one...

your posts do make you seem to appear that you have no emotion about this...that is your prerogative, but please don't belittle me because I see the good in the story and that there is good in the man ...

I don't care for GWB one bit , sad thing is on the other side who in the heck do they Really have to step forward on the other side .lol the other side as they call each other pointing the greed & Selfestness out . hmmmm what is the score ?, it is not a Game . I do understand Politics & who & what they listen to, Who has the Money & What have you done for me lately. George Wallace , said it, Not a Dime Defference in them. I honestly or think I can say not a one of them for are there for you or I .So sad for our young children to hear & see how they comduct bussness & act. No wonder the kids learn at such an early age . Ever thing is Legal if you can get away with it & that goes for our Local Politictions . George W is Dee Mam !! like him or not !! Our Prayes are with all the Sevice Men , Women & their familys all around the world .When Roger Bedford can look you dies in the eye &pat you on the back & say he will support a bill. & walk around the corner & be over heard saying is not . & he didn't when time to Vote. ok I hate Politics ,Ok now I can breath a little better , got that off my chest if I didn't confuse you

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Originally posted by one who posts:
I absolutely cannot stand the Bush presidency. However, that's a pretty cool story. I'm as democrat as they come, and some of you know that. Still, what he did has nothing to do with politics or the war. He stepped in during a stateside crisis and comforted sorrowful people.

Yes, I wish he would make different decisions, but this is an example of something my granddad always said: even broken clocks are right twice a day.

Good point... very good point... Thank you!!!

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Originally posted by Big Bubba:
Anyone who hates Bush, is just crazy.

No one said they hated Bush, you didn't read all the replies..

Now IF the post said Bush DISAGREERs then over 75% of the people would fit into that mix.

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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
Anyone who thinks this sickeningly sweet, sentimental, possibly untrue story has one thing to do with Bushes job performance is delusional. Cute, emotional and easily made up stories like this are for the weak, seeking to find validation of their mistaken allegiance to a failed leader. It smacks of manipulation and falsehood.

One made a good point with the clock.. but, meanasasnake, you have the smartest answers here on the forum!!! I enjoy reading yours.... not to mention that for SOME reason, you are ALWAYS right, lol...

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Originally posted by meanasasnake:

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Originally posted by Big Bubba:
Put that in simple english.

In "simple English", I dont neccessarily beleave the story is word for word what anyone said. Even IF it is - what has it got to do with anything? Bushs job involves MORE than sound bites, sweet stories or good deeds. His job is to lead this nation. So far the American people are not giving him a passing grade. He lost his party the House and Senate, hes got us into a messy civil war in the Middle East, and is enjoying an approval rating in the high 20-30% range. He needs to do more than offer sweet sentimental words to 6 people in Enterprise Al.

Psst, I think you just got BAITED into that last comment... lol

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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
I find the good in those things not designed to elicit an emotion. I dont like tricks, I dont like easy emotional responses. One does not hire a C.E.O. for a large corporation based on his ability to say sweet things to the office staff. You hire a C.E.O. based on his ability to make deals, produce success for the company and accomplish the expected results. The presidency of the United States is no popularity contest, its the management of the Free World - a bigger job than being Little Miss Sunshine after a disaster in Enterprise Al. I reserve my sentimental moments for other things.

I just BET you dont like BAITERs and TROLLERs either, right?

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Originally posted by stephanie:

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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
I dont like little sweet stories produced by Democrats OR Republicans. So amusing how touchy some of you get just because I dont get all weepy over this story. Hard to beleave you would actually call me names like "coward, and heartless" over this. It sort looks like hypocracy to be so attached to such sentimental, spiritually inspiring stories and then lash out at those who are not. "Feel the way I do - or you are a "heartless coward". Its kinda funny.

I hope one of these days when tragedy hits your life that you will remember this thread -- especially when someone comes up and hugs you and speaks words of comfort to you ... I hope then you will remember where your heart is ...I know you have one...

your posts do make you seem to appear that you have no emotion about this...that is your prerogative, but please don't belittle me because I see the good in the story and that there is good in the man ...

Wow, that statement that you just made can apply to ALL of us, at ANYTHING we do, ANYTHING we say...

I don't see where YOU were the one belittled????? Show me?

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Originally posted by Bamafnatk:
I don't care for GWB one bit , sad thing is on the other side who in the heck do they Really have to step forward on the other side .lol the other side as they call each other pointing the greed & Selfestness out . hmmmm what is the score ?, it is not a Game . I do understand Politics & who & what they listen to, Who has the Money & What have you done for me lately. George Wallace , said it, Not a Dime Defference in them. I honestly or think I can say not a one of them for are there for you or I .So sad for our young children to hear & see how they comduct bussness & act. No wonder the kids learn at such an early age . Ever thing is Legal if you can get away with it & that goes for our Local Politictions . George W is Dee Mam !! like him or not !! Our Prayes are with all the Sevice Men , Women & their familys all around the world .When Roger Bedford can look you dies in the eye &pat you on the back & say he will support a bill. & walk around the corner & be over heard saying is not . & he didn't when time to Vote. ok I hate Politics ,Ok now I can breath a little better , got that off my chest if I didn't confuse you

Actually you are VERY clear here, and very correct... our thoughts and our Prayers should be with out Troops every minute of every day!!! Thing is, the only think I didnt care to see you say was dubbya was dee man.. he hs the President, and he has made loads and loads and loads of bad decisions that, IF he is the Christian he claims to be, will haunt him the rest of his life. IF he is NOT, then he will be fine for the rest of his life knowing he ALMOST built that Empire.

Sorry ,your right , lol again "President George W. Bush "

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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
I dont like little sweet stories produced by Democrats OR Republicans. So amusing how touchy some of you get just because I dont get all weepy over this story. Hard to beleave you would actually call me names like "coward, and heartless" over this. It sort looks like hypocracy to be so attached to such sentimental, spiritually inspiring stories and then lash out at those who are not. "Feel the way I do - or you are a "heartless coward". Its kinda funny.

I'll add a couple of things to this, I don't Like the Hell's Angels collecting Christmas Gifts for kids while manufacturing and distributing Chrystal to their Parents. I don't like pep talks to the office staff by people who pay subsistance wages, and Live in mansions. I don't like having people punished for taking photographs of planeloads of Coffins. I don't like seeing "supplemental" funding in the billions of dollars for a war of choice while there has been NO supplemental funding for hurricane recovery requested. I don't like funding for economic development in Indonesia while the Lakota, Dadota, Hopi, Navajo, Apache and Minnetonka struggle to survive in Minnesota, South Dakota, Arizona, Oklahoma and New Mexico.
I don't like Schwinn Manufacturing Bicycles in China when there are qualified workers seeking employment in Sacaton. I come Close to rebellion when Samsonite Fires an executive for contracting for sewing work in Ak Chin, Arizona. I glow Red with rage when I learn that more than half of all farm subsidies are paid to TWO corporations. I get purple when George Bush goes to Brazil to buy ethanol while saying he is making the USA energy independent.

A truely honest person that is elected to political office will not last more than one term. If one stays true to their convictions, always tells the truth, even if it is not what people want to hear would have a very difficult time being reelected. There are to many backdoor agreements,"you scrach my back" and so "I'll scrach yours". A really honest and true to their conviction legislator would never stand a chance with the South Alabama ruling bunch. IMHO

EdEKit, I must agree about the Native Americans. Several years ago I was at lake Powell.
Almost all the employees were Native Americans, My guess is Navajo.
That area there needs help in the worst way. Yet we spend millions in some pork for an inner city basketball court.
While those who would readly take jobs and support their familys are left holding the short end of the stick. Makes no sence whatever to me.

j

With spending the past few minutes reading all of this thread a few thoughts came to mind. The first thought is the heart-felt companions of the president toward the people of Enterprise and his actions with those four students. I give him respect for that. Not for doing it, but for not making a political statement with it. If you read the full story you would have realized the original story came from someone witnessing the actions – not the media.

No matter what political thoughts, opinions, convictions, or beliefs one retains they should see the compassion residing within our President. I don’t mean to rant here, but a few things have my fingers typing as fast as they can go. I apologize for the length of this thread, but I feel the facts need to be known.

1) Did Bush lie pertaining to WMD’s and the war in Iraq? This is wholeheartedly a politically driven question. Bush reacted on intelligence provided to him and the rest of the world before going into Iraq. The intelligence provided at the time showed there was evidence of WMD’s in Iraq. And the countries that saw that same intelligence joined us into Iraq. Was the intelligence wrong? That is still up for debate throughout the world as countries contend they did have them and countries contend they did not have them. The fact is we never found them, so based upon that knowledge one would speculate they did not have them. Does this make the President a blatant liar for relying on our intelligence offices to provide adequate information? NO. But he is the leader of this nation and he must shoulder the responsibility for the intelligence breakdown. That is the nature of the job. It doesn’t matter who screwed up, the leader must take responsibility for it.

2) What is the problem with Halliburton? I have been pondering this question for years and no one has ever given me a clear precise answer to this question when they are faced with the facts. Fact: Halliburton is one of the world’s largest service providers and provides its services to countries and corporations throughout the world. Fact: In most cases, including the case of Halliburton working in Iraq and the military, Halliburton is the ONLY company in existence with the means and feasibility to fulfill those contracts. Fact: Halliburton provides vital services to the infrastructure of our country including: Oil and Gas Industries, Water Treatment Facilities and Manufacturing Services. Fact: Halliburton is moving all Corporate Headquarters to Dubai. Why? Due to political campaigns in the US against them. What does this mean? It means that due to political panting between politicians trying to deface one another we are losing an extremely vital corporation and not to mention one of the largest employers in the US.

3) Why are US companies outsourcing jobs to China and not providing those jobs to people needing them right here in the US? The answer is the American Public! That is right, the American public is the culprit. We demand it. We demand it by supporting the companies that cause it: Wal-Mart, Kohl’s, K-Mart, Dollar General, and thousands more. These companies alone singlehandedly began the death of the American manufacturing industries. We as a people demand higher pay and benefits but we refuse to pay the higher costs of US made products to ensure them. We slam our employers with lawsuits and form unions, but do not buy the products made here to support those costs. At every moment we have no problem buying products made in China. I have witnessed firsthand the demise of American Manufacturing seeing two companies fail due to the low price of Chinese made products. When a product manufactured in the US sells for $100.00 and the Chinese counterpart sells for $25.00 which are you going to buy? It does not matter of the quality because if it breaks we can buy 3 more and still be ahead. If you want to see jobs come back to America then support those companies that are struggling to make it. There are still companies in America in every industry, but you must look for the products. The first action of course is by not supporting the corporations that sell the Chinese products. Until you do this, you have no right to complain about employment in the US.

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Originally posted by Bamafnatk:
Sorry ,your right , lol again "President George W. Bush "

LOL Bamafnatk.... here we go with the disadvantage of the typewritten words!! I didn't say it just right, what I MEANT to say was that I did not think dubby was 'dee man'... that was all I meant to disagree with you on... please forgive me for the misconception!!!

I just came from outside, and saw what you said , lmao now

[QUOTE Lars34]With spending the past few minutes reading all of this thread a few thoughts came to mind. The first thought is the heart-felt companions of the president toward the people of Enterprise and his actions with those four students. I give him respect for that. Not for doing it, but for not making a political statement with it. If you read the full story you would have realized the original story came from someone witnessing the actions – not the media. [/QUOTE]

That was a great observation ... and great post...Thanks!

Utterly fascinating.

People, just stating the obvious here but I believe this dead horse has just been beat enough-don't ya think? meanasasnake, I don't quite understand your vehemence with this particular topic. What if it is totally false--who cares? It was a feel good story and if you weren't feeling it that's your right. However, for the rest of us that enjoyed it --Thanks,fatnomo! I for one think a little optimism goes a long way when 9/10's of everything else in this world is basically pessimistic in nature. I can only take so much doom and gloom

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Originally posted by lookn2it:
People, just stating the obvious here but I believe this dead horse has just been beat enough-don't ya think? meanasasnake, I don't quite understand your vehemence with this particular topic. What if it is totally false--who cares? It was a feel good story and if you weren't feeling it that's your right. However, for the rest of us that enjoyed it --Thanks,fatnomo! I for one think a little optimism goes a long way when 9/10's of everything else in this world is basically pessimistic in nature. I can only take so much doom and gloom

Thank YOU Lookin! Didn't I make it clear to the Mean Snakes of the world NOT to read this forum?

I sincerely appreciate the encouragement I received from so many of you concerning this event in Enterprize.

And, Larz - where have YOU been all our lives? Like That Smart Chick said, welcome aboard! And I, too, look forward to more of your insights.

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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
Utterly fascinating.

Oh yes, isnt it???

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Originally posted by stephanie:
Delldue -- you keep using the signature of "Semper Fi" (always faithful) at the bottom of your posts--so I'm assuming you are a Marine -- I think there are many many many Marines that would be offeded by your use of that slogan. Just my opinion though. I am not a marine...but they do look good in uniform....

Offended No! I know of no Marine in, or out of our proud, and illustrious Military Unit that takes umbridge to that statement.(that being Semper Fi!) We are always faithful to our country, and its citizen's. What would make you make a statement like this?

We're very honored that you think of us, and our uniform we wear so proudly as UNITED STATES MARINE'S, but it is the anchor, and globe we cherish above all else, and the GREAT HERO'S that have wore it, and died,and fought for our freedoms we take for granted today

Semper Fi,(carry on citizen

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Originally posted by Delldude:
You have the audacity to call (GWB)a COMMANDER IN CHIEF! you must be a leader first, and foremost to be commander, and chief, he fits neither. would you go and fight for this charactor? if so, he's looking for a few good men to send right now. In fact he'll send you back time, and again.

And after 30 thousand killed, and wounded American GIs in over 4 yrs, and still GWB has no clue as to what is going on over there and you can still support this guy? Go to Military.com and see what HALIBURTON is up to now. and this is put out by the MILITARY. "ITS SICKENING"

Semper Fi,(carry on citizens!)

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by Stephanie Posted 22 March 2007 10:29 AM Hide Post
If I was able to serve him in any other way than I do right now as an American citizen -- yes, DellDude, he is MY COMMANDER IN CHIEF and I would serve him any day of the week and twice on Sunday because he is the President of my country -- and I FEEL (you have your feelings and I have mine) that is my duty as an American.

So yes I have audacity --

Above are the quotes from you and I before I posted that comment -- I'll be honest that was several days ago and I'm not sure why I said it that way, but apparently it hit me that way. I'm not sure if it was your comments about Bush when he is still your current Commander in Chief or if it was the way you say "Semper Fi" (Carry on Citizens) as your tag -- I'm thinking it was probably both, but mainly the Semper Fi with somehting in parantheses beside it -- someone who is unfamiliar with Semper Fi might misunderstand you paranthetical statement of Carry On Citizens and think that was what it meant when it has a meaning all its on (Always faithful).

I'm not sure -- I'm sorry if I offended you. But ya'll still do a great job at being Marines defending our country and to steal from Demi Moore in "A Few Good Men" help me feel safe and just as a female--you still look good in the uniform...so I'll take that back ...

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Originally posted by lookn2it:
People, just stating the obvious here but I believe this dead horse has just been beat enough-don't ya think? <SNIP>

The horse ain't dead, I am just trying to get its attention, and if I hit it next to the tail I might do brain damage.

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Originally posted by Delldude:

Semper Fi,(carry on citizen)

I get it, and I am no Leather necked Jarhead.
It's kinder and gentler. "Lead, Follow, or get out of the way."

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Originally posted by EdEKit:

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Originally posted by lookn2it:
People, just stating the obvious here but I believe this dead horse has just been beat enough-don't ya think? <SNIP>

The horse ain't dead, I am just trying to get its attention, and if I hit it next to the tail I might do brain damage.

ROFLMAO--That was pretty good Ed. I will definitely use this one at work with my boss.

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Originally posted by lookn2it:

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Originally posted by EdEKit:

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Originally posted by lookn2it:
People, just stating the obvious here but I believe this dead horse has just been beat enough-don't ya think? <SNIP>

The horse ain't dead, I am just trying to get its attention, and if I hit it next to the tail I might do brain damage.

ROFLMAO--That was pretty good Ed. I will definitely use this one at work with my boss.

Thanks, after some of what I have read this morning I needed the feedback.

I'm afraid I have to agree with Look on this one. If this thread was a horse we would have "put it down" a long time ago.