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cage, i have nothing but respect for you, but ...

an agreement made 10 years ago had to have some new input...

you can't tell me we didn't "renew" our agreement with Pakistan after 

Obama took office... we'll have to agree to disagree on this one...

it can't be both ways.. either Obama is responsible for what happens after he

took office, or Bush is responsible for what happened after Obama took office...

i'll give Bush the killing of OBL.. if you agree to credit the same president with destroying of the american economy!!!

Originally Posted by Elb the Bum:

cage, i have nothing but respect for you, but ...

an agreement made 10 years ago had to have some new input...

you can't tell me we didn't "renew" our agreement with Pakistan after 

Obama took office... we'll have to agree to disagree on this one...

it can't be both ways.. either Obama is responsible for what happens after he

took office, or Bush is responsible for what happened after Obama took office...

i'll give Bush the killing of OBL.. if you agree to credit the same president with destroying of the american economy!!!

 

 

 

Thank you Elb...

Now, to address your overview.

Notice the heading...Paved The Way. That's historical fact. Yes?

We could say "Helped pave the way", and  include any prior administrations that had dealings with Pakistan on terrorist issue.

I look at the "Big Picture". Obama is the sitting president. Obama gave the "Go"...as I am told. Obama got my respect for that. Obama DID NOT personally fire the shot that killed Bin Laden.

Many of the praise from the Left would have you think just that.

It can work both ways.

Bush launched a totally idiotic war in Iraq. We are STILL there. 2 years into the Obama administration.

.Bush shredded parts of the Constitution with the Patriotic Act and parts of Homeland Security. I blame Congress and the American "sheeple" for letting that stand. Obama has not only let it stand, but strengthened it.

The economic drain of the Iraq war started the destruction of the economy. The policies of the Obama administration have only added more to it.

You see, I am no "party Man"...I scrutinize BOTH political parties. I KNOW there are those of both political ideologies whom only have tunnel vision.

The slamming of Bush...and the total leftist euphoria accorded to Obama for the Bin Laden killing only exemplify this.

 

 

 

The CIA bought a safe house and watched the bin Laden compound for over a year without getting any hard evidence that he was actually there.   If the SEALs had gone in and bin Laden was not there, would that be BushIIes fault, and a violation of the agreement which stipulated that we would have accurate intel that bin Laden was in fact at the site of the raid???  OBama took the risk and gets the rewards.

 

If BushIIe had spent any effort on getting bin Laden from 2005 forward, he might have got McCain elected.   Instead, he spent 3 years accomplishing.....nothing.

Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:

The CIA bought a safe house and watched the bin Laden compound for over a year without getting any hard evidence that he was actually there.   If the SEALs had gone in and bin Laden was not there, would that be BushIIes fault, and a violation of the agreement which stipulated that we would have accurate intel that bin Laden was in fact at the site of the raid???  OBama took the risk and gets the rewards.

 

If BushIIe had spent any effort on getting bin Laden from 2005 forward, he might have got McCain elected.   Instead, he spent 3 years accomplishing.....nothing.

 

 

 

If you are stupid enough to think that there was no Pakistani involvement in "knowing"...if not actively supporting this operation...which would REDUCE the risk...well, I guess you are.

Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:

The CIA bought a safe house and watched the bin Laden compound for over a year without getting any hard evidence that he was actually there.   If the SEALs had gone in and bin Laden was not there, would that be BushIIes fault, and a violation of the agreement which stipulated that we would have accurate intel that bin Laden was in fact at the site of the raid???  OBama took the risk and gets the rewards.

 

If BushIIe had spent any effort on getting bin Laden from 2005 forward, he might have got McCain elected.   Instead, he spent 3 years accomplishing.....nothing.

Leon Panetta, director of the CIA, stated that the interrogation methods initiated by Bush led to bin Laden.  Other statements were more detailed.  I'll take that over leftie whining and mewling.

 

I'll give Obama credit for giving the OK for the raid.  It could have turned out like Carter in Iran.  That leave Jimmah still holding the record for worst president, ever!

Originally Posted by interventor1212:
Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:

The CIA bought a safe house and watched the bin Laden compound for over a year without getting any hard evidence that he was actually there.   If the SEALs had gone in and bin Laden was not there, would that be BushIIes fault, and a violation of the agreement which stipulated that we would have accurate intel that bin Laden was in fact at the site of the raid???  OBama took the risk and gets the rewards.

 

If BushIIe had spent any effort on getting bin Laden from 2005 forward, he might have got McCain elected.   Instead, he spent 3 years accomplishing.....nothing.

Leon Panetta, director of the CIA, stated that the interrogation methods initiated by Bush led to bin Laden.  Other statements were more detailed.  I'll take that over leftie whining and mewling.

 

I'll give Obama credit for giving the OK for the raid.  It could have turned out like Carter in Iran.  That leave Jimmah still holding the record for worst president, ever!

Panetta said nothing of the kind. This is another dis-proven lie that you keep repeating. I wonder if you have heard what John McCain had to say about it. You probably don't want to hear what he said.

Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
Originally Posted by interventor1212:
Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:

The CIA bought a safe house and watched the bin Laden compound for over a year without getting any hard evidence that he was actually there.   If the SEALs had gone in and bin Laden was not there, would that be BushIIes fault, and a violation of the agreement which stipulated that we would have accurate intel that bin Laden was in fact at the site of the raid???  OBama took the risk and gets the rewards.

 

If BushIIe had spent any effort on getting bin Laden from 2005 forward, he might have got McCain elected.   Instead, he spent 3 years accomplishing.....nothing.

Leon Panetta, director of the CIA, stated that the interrogation methods initiated by Bush led to bin Laden.  Other statements were more detailed.  I'll take that over leftie whining and mewling.

 

I'll give Obama credit for giving the OK for the raid.  It could have turned out like Carter in Iran.  That leave Jimmah still holding the record for worst president, ever!

Panetta said nothing of the kind. This is another dis-proven lie that you keep repeating. I wonder if you have heard what John McCain had to say about it. You probably don't want to hear what he said.

Another leftie up Denial, despite obvious evidence to the contrary.'

 

http://winteryknight.wordpress...-to-osama-bin-laden/

 

 

You socialist are so hypocritical. No mater what President Bush did he was wrong.

Now we have the worst President next to Jimmy Carter in the history of the USA.

No matter what he does or says, he's a saint. He can't do nothing wrong. On the

contrary, almost everything he has done is moving our country closer to bankruptcy.

Also being a devout socialist, bringing us closer to communism. Enjoy him while you

can, the next election he's going down to the pages of history. Americans are wising

up to his mob like tactics. His Black Panther army will not keep the American voter

from throwing his azz to the curb. Your party is about over. Enjoy it while you can.

Those of you babies to young to remember the tragedy of Jimmy Carter can't see

the similarities between Obama and Carter. I wish you would hurry and grow up so

at least the intelligent socialists can wise up and switch parties. The rest of you, well

there is no hope.

 

Your Pal Skippy

Originally Posted by skippy delepepper:

You socialist are so hypocritical. No mater what President Bush did he was wrong.

Now we have the worst President next to Jimmy Carter in the history of the USA.

No matter what he does or says, he's a saint. He can't do nothing wrong. On the

contrary, almost everything he has done is moving our country closer to bankruptcy.

Also being a devout socialist, bringing us closer to communism. Enjoy him while you

can, the next election he's going down to the pages of history. Americans are wising

up to his mob like tactics. His Black Panther army will not keep the American voter

from throwing his azz to the curb. Your party is about over. Enjoy it while you can.

Those of you babies to young to remember the tragedy of Jimmy Carter can't see

the similarities between Obama and Carter. I wish you would hurry and grow up so

at least the intelligent socialists can wise up and switch parties. The rest of you, well

there is no hope.

 

Your Pal Skippy

 

 

You have your choice of Gingrich, Romney, Trump, or Paul.   Losers.  Everyone of em.  The Repubs will lose the next election if they dont find a viable candidate in the next 4 months. 

Originally Posted by interventor1212:
Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
Originally Posted by interventor1212:
Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:

The CIA bought a safe house and watched the bin Laden compound for over a year without getting any hard evidence that he was actually there.   If the SEALs had gone in and bin Laden was not there, would that be BushIIes fault, and a violation of the agreement which stipulated that we would have accurate intel that bin Laden was in fact at the site of the raid???  OBama took the risk and gets the rewards.

 

If BushIIe had spent any effort on getting bin Laden from 2005 forward, he might have got McCain elected.   Instead, he spent 3 years accomplishing.....nothing.

Leon Panetta, director of the CIA, stated that the interrogation methods initiated by Bush led to bin Laden.  Other statements were more detailed.  I'll take that over leftie whining and mewling.

 

I'll give Obama credit for giving the OK for the raid.  It could have turned out like Carter in Iran.  That leave Jimmah still holding the record for worst president, ever!

Panetta said nothing of the kind. This is another dis-proven lie that you keep repeating. I wonder if you have heard what John McCain had to say about it. You probably don't want to hear what he said.

Another leftie up Denial, despite obvious evidence to the contrary.'

 

http://winteryknight.wordpress...-to-osama-bin-laden/

 

 

And the lies keep on coming. Probably all the way to Obama's re-election and the return to a Democratic majority in the House and a larger one in the Senate. Can't wait to see what you have to say then.

Originally Posted by skippy delepepper:

You socialist are so hypocritical. No mater what President Bush did he was wrong.

Now we have the worst President next to Jimmy Carter in the history of the USA.

No matter what he does or says, he's a saint. He can't do nothing wrong. On the

contrary, almost everything he has done is moving our country closer to bankruptcy.

Also being a devout socialist, bringing us closer to communism. Enjoy him while you

can, the next election he's going down to the pages of history. Americans are wising

up to his mob like tactics. His Black Panther army will not keep the American voter

from throwing his azz to the curb. Your party is about over. Enjoy it while you can.

Those of you babies to young to remember the tragedy of Jimmy Carter can't see

the similarities between Obama and Carter. I wish you would hurry and grow up so

at least the intelligent socialists can wise up and switch parties. The rest of you, well

there is no hope.

 

Your Pal Skippy

Skippy, you keep throwing around terms like socialist and communism as if you know what they mean, which you, obviously, you don't.

Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
Originally Posted by skippy delepepper:

You socialist are so hypocritical. No mater what President Bush did he was wrong.

Now we have the worst President next to Jimmy Carter in the history of the USA.

No matter what he does or says, he's a saint. He can't do nothing wrong. On the

contrary, almost everything he has done is moving our country closer to bankruptcy.

Also being a devout socialist, bringing us closer to communism. Enjoy him while you

can, the next election he's going down to the pages of history. Americans are wising

up to his mob like tactics. His Black Panther army will not keep the American voter

from throwing his azz to the curb. Your party is about over. Enjoy it while you can.

Those of you babies to young to remember the tragedy of Jimmy Carter can't see

the similarities between Obama and Carter. I wish you would hurry and grow up so

at least the intelligent socialists can wise up and switch parties. The rest of you, well

there is no hope.

 

Your Pal Skippy

Skippy, you keep throwing around terms like socialist and communism as if you know what they mean, which you, obviously, you don't.

Where does the space aliens conspiracy fit in?

Originally Posted by The Propagandist:
Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
Originally Posted by skippy delepepper:

You socialist are so hypocritical. No mater what President Bush did he was wrong.

Now we have the worst President next to Jimmy Carter in the history of the USA.

No matter what he does or says, he's a saint. He can't do nothing wrong. On the

contrary, almost everything he has done is moving our country closer to bankruptcy.

Also being a devout socialist, bringing us closer to communism. Enjoy him while you

can, the next election he's going down to the pages of history. Americans are wising

up to his mob like tactics. His Black Panther army will not keep the American voter

from throwing his azz to the curb. Your party is about over. Enjoy it while you can.

Those of you babies to young to remember the tragedy of Jimmy Carter can't see

the similarities between Obama and Carter. I wish you would hurry and grow up so

at least the intelligent socialists can wise up and switch parties. The rest of you, well

there is no hope.

 

Your Pal Skippy

Skippy, you keep throwing around terms like socialist and communism as if you know what they mean, which you, obviously, you don't.

Where does the space aliens conspiracy fit in?

Huh?

Here ya go old boy,

the meaning of what you are.

so·cial·ism

  

so·cial·ism

[sṓshə lìzəm]or So·cial·ism[sṓshə lìzəm]

n

1.

political system of communal ownership:

a political theory or system in which the means of production and distribution are controlled by the people and operated according to equity and fairness rather than market principles

 

2. movement based on socialism:

a political movement based on principles of socialism, typically advocating an end to private property and to the exploitation of workers

 

3. stage between capitalism and communism:

in Marxist theory, the stage after the proletarian revolution when a society is changing from capitalism to communism, marked by pay distributed according to work done rather than need

 

Here's the meaning of what you strive to do.

 

Com·mu·nism

  

n

1.

Marxist-Leninist system:

the Marxist-Leninist version of a classless society in which capitalism is overthrown by a working-class revolution that gives ownership and control of wealth and property to the state

2.

one-party state:

any system of government in which a single, usually totalitarian, party holds power, and the state controls the economy

 

There you have it the definition of what you are and what you will be, if your not already.

 

Your Pal Skippy

Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
Originally Posted by interventor1212:
Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
Originally Posted by interventor1212:
Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:

The CIA bought a safe house and watched the bin Laden compound for over a year without getting any hard evidence that he was actually there.   If the SEALs had gone in and bin Laden was not there, would that be BushIIes fault, and a violation of the agreement which stipulated that we would have accurate intel that bin Laden was in fact at the site of the raid???  OBama took the risk and gets the rewards.

 

If BushIIe had spent any effort on getting bin Laden from 2005 forward, he might have got McCain elected.   Instead, he spent 3 years accomplishing.....nothing.

Leon Panetta, director of the CIA, stated that the interrogation methods initiated by Bush led to bin Laden.  Other statements were more detailed.  I'll take that over leftie whining and mewling.

 

I'll give Obama credit for giving the OK for the raid.  It could have turned out like Carter in Iran.  That leave Jimmah still holding the record for worst president, ever!

Panetta said nothing of the kind. This is another dis-proven lie that you keep repeating. I wonder if you have heard what John McCain had to say about it. You probably don't want to hear what he said.

Another leftie up Denial, despite obvious evidence to the contrary.'

 

http://winteryknight.wordpress...-to-osama-bin-laden/

 

 

And the lies keep on coming. Probably all the way to Obama's re-election and the return to a Democratic majority in the House and a larger one in the Senate. Can't wait to see what you have to say then.

So, exactly what lie did Panetta tell!

Originally Posted by interventor1212:
Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
Originally Posted by interventor1212:
Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
Originally Posted by interventor1212:
Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:

The CIA bought a safe house and watched the bin Laden compound for over a year without getting any hard evidence that he was actually there.   If the SEALs had gone in and bin Laden was not there, would that be BushIIes fault, and a violation of the agreement which stipulated that we would have accurate intel that bin Laden was in fact at the site of the raid???  OBama took the risk and gets the rewards.

 

If BushIIe had spent any effort on getting bin Laden from 2005 forward, he might have got McCain elected.   Instead, he spent 3 years accomplishing.....nothing.

Leon Panetta, director of the CIA, stated that the interrogation methods initiated by Bush led to bin Laden.  Other statements were more detailed.  I'll take that over leftie whining and mewling.

 

I'll give Obama credit for giving the OK for the raid.  It could have turned out like Carter in Iran.  That leave Jimmah still holding the record for worst president, ever!

Panetta said nothing of the kind. This is another dis-proven lie that you keep repeating. I wonder if you have heard what John McCain had to say about it. You probably don't want to hear what he said.

Another leftie up Denial, despite obvious evidence to the contrary.'

 

http://winteryknight.wordpress...-to-osama-bin-laden/

 

 

And the lies keep on coming. Probably all the way to Obama's re-election and the return to a Democratic majority in the House and a larger one in the Senate. Can't wait to see what you have to say then.

So, exactly what lie did Panetta tell!

You tell me.

Originally Posted by CageTheElephant:

Just as smart Americans thought...the Left couldn't keep the truth under wraps!

 

http://www.freedom-won.net/geo...-and-kill-bin-laden/

 

Musharraf: No deal made to let U.S. get bin Laden

http://www.washingtontimes.com...et-us-get-bin-laden/

 

But there will be those who say "Sure, he's going to say, because the deal was SECRET!"

In that case, there will be nothing more to discuss, because no matter what evidence you put before them, they won't believe it.

 

"A closed mind is a terrible thing to waste a debate on." -- The Propagandist

 

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