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*Sorry, this is so lengthy, but after reading Bill Gray's misinterpretation of Catholicism, I felt it necessary to explain my faith.

The following is compiled by Marcus Grodi.
Too often non-Catholics have never heard or read what the Catholic Church truly teaches on issues like Salvation or Justification. They have only too often accepted uncritically what Her antagonists say She teaches. What makes it doubly difficult is that the non-Catholic gospel is very easily simplified into four or five "Spiritual Laws" or a convenient collection of six to eight verses called "The Roman Road," while the Catholic teaching on Salvation and Justification is a much wider and deeper understanding of Scripture and Tradition not easily reducible to a simple formula. As a result, Catholics are sometimes stymied when they are asked to describe succinctly "How are Catholics saved?"
Given the discussions presented in this Edition of the CHJournal, I give to you the official source from which to hear what the Church truly teaches about salvation, the Catechism of the Catholic Church. To hear the fullest presentation of Catholic teaching on this subject, one should read in entirety Part Three on "Life In Christ." However, the following articles summarize the Church’s teaching on Justification, Grace, Merit and Holiness, all of which sum up to how one is saved by faith in Jesus Christ.
Marcus Grodi —Editor of The Coming Home Journal

The Catechism Of The Catholic Church
I. Justification
1987 The grace of the Holy Spirit has the power to justify us, that is, to cleanse us from our sins and to communicate to us "the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ" and through Baptism: [Rom 3.22; cf. 6:3-4]
But if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him. For we know that Christ being raised from the dead will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him. The death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves as dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. [Rom 6.8-11]

1988 Through the power of the Holy Spirit we take part in Christ’s Passion by dying to sin, and in his Resurrection by being born to a new life; we are members of his Body which is the Church, branches grafted onto the vine which is himself: [Cf. 1 Cor 12; Jn 15.1-4]
[God] gave himself to us through his Spirit. By the participation of the Spirit, we become communicants in the divine nature.... For this reason, those in whom the Spirit dwells are divinized. [St. Athanasius, Ep. Serap. 1, 24: PG 26, 585 & 588]
1989 The first work of the grace of the Holy Spirit is conversion, effecting justification in accordance with Jesus’ proclamation at the beginning of the Gospel: "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." [Mt 4.17] Moved by grace, man turns toward God and away from sin, thus accepting forgiveness and righteousness from on high. "Justification is not only the remission of sins, but also the sanctification and renewal of the interior man. [Council of Trent (1547): Densinger 1528]
1990 Justification detaches man from sin which contradicts the love of God, and purifies his heart of sin. Justification follows upon God’s merciful initiative of offering forgiveness. It reconciles man with God. It frees from the enslavement to sin, and it heals.
1991 Justification is at the same time the acceptance of God’s righteousness through faith in Jesus Christ. Righteousness (or "justice") here means the rectitude of divine love. With justification, faith, hope, and charity are poured into our hearts, and obedience to the divine will is granted us.
1992 Justification has been merited for us by the Passion of Christ who offered himself on the cross as a living victim, holy and pleasing to God, and whose blood has become the instrument of atonement for the sins of all men. Justification is conferred in Baptism, the sacrament of faith. It conforms us to the righteousness of God, who makes us inwardly just by the power of his mercy. Its purpose is the glory of God and of Christ, and the gift of eternal life: [Cf. Council of Trent (1547): DS 1529]
But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from law, although the law and the prophets bear witness to it, the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, they are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as an expiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins; it was to prove at the present time that he himself is righteous and that he justifies him who has faith in Jesus. [Rom 3.21-26]
1993 Justification establishes cooperation between God’s grace and man’s freedom. On man’s part it is expressed by the assent of faith to the Word of God, which invites him to conversion, and in the cooperation of charity with the prompting of the Holy Spirit who precedes and preserves his assent:
When God touches man’s heart through the illumination of the Holy Spirit, man himself is not inactive while receiving that inspiration, since he could reject it; and yet, without God’s grace, he cannot by his own free will move himself toward justice in God’s sight. [Council of Trent (1547): DS 1525]
1994 Justification is the most excellent work of God’s love made manifest in Christ Jesus and granted by the Holy Spirit. It is the opinion of St. Augustine that "the justification of the wicked is a greater work than the creation of heaven and earth," because "heaven and earth will pass away but the salvation and justification of the elect … will not pass away." [St. Augustine, In Jo. Ev. 72, 3: PL 35. 1823] He holds also that the justification of sinners surpasses the creation of the angels in justice, in that it bears witness to a greater mercy.
1995 The Holy Spirit is the master of the interior life. By giving birth to the "inner man," [Cf. Rom 7:22; Eph 3:16] justification entails the sanctification of his whole being:
Just as you once yielded your members to impurity and to greater and greater iniquity, so now yield your members to righteousness for sanctification.... But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the return you get is sanctification and its end, eternal life. [Rom 6:19,22]
II. GRACE

1996 Our justification comes from the grace of God. Grace is favor, the free and undeserved help that God gives us to respond to his call to become children of God, adoptive sons, partakers of the divine nature and of eternal life. [Cf. Jn 1:12-18; 17:3; Rom 8:14-17; 2 Pet 1:3-4]
1997 Grace is a participation in the life of God. It introduces us into the intimacy of Trinitarian life: by Baptism the Christian participates in the grace of Christ, the Head of his Body. As an "adopted son" he can henceforth call God "Father," in union with the only Son. He receives the life of the Spirit who breathes charity into him and who forms the Church.
1998 This vocation to eternal life is supernatural. It depends entirely on God’s gratuitous initiative, for he alone can reveal and give himself. It surpasses the power of human intellect and will, as that of every other creature. [Cf. 1 Cor 2:7-9]
1999 The grace of Christ is the gratuitous gift that God makes to us of his own life, infused by the Holy Spirit into our soul to heal it of sin and to sanctify it. It is the sanctifying or deifying grace received in Baptism. It is in us the source of the work of sanctification: [Cf. Jn 4:14; 7:38-39]
Therefore if any one is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has passed away, behold, the new has come. All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself. [2 Cor 5:17-18]
2000 Sanctifying grace is an habitual gift, a stable and supernatural disposition that perfects the soul itself to enable it to live with God, to act by his love. Habitual grace, the permanent disposition to live and act in keeping with God’s call, is distinguished from actual graces which refer to God’s interventions, whether at the beginning of conversion or in the course of the work of sanctification.
2001 The preparation of man for the reception of grace is already a work of grace. This latter is needed to arouse and sustain our collaboration in justification through faith, and in sanctification through charity. God brings to completion in us what he has begun, "since he who completes his work by cooperating with our will began by working so that we might will it:" [St. Augustine, De gratia st libero arbitrio, 17: PL 44, 901]
Indeed we also work, but we are only collaborating with God who works, for his mercy has gone before us. It has gone before us so that we may be healed, and follows us so that once healed, we may be given life; it goes before us so that we may be called, and follows us so that we may be glorified; it goes before us so that we may live devoutly, and follows us so that we may always live with God: for without him we can do nothing. [St. Augustine, De natura et gratia, 31: PL 44, 264]
2002 God’s free initiative demands man’s free response, for God has created man in his image by conferring on him, along with freedom, the power to know him and love him. The soul only enters freely into the communion of love. God immediately touches and directly moves the heart of man. He has placed in man a longing for truth and goodness that only he can satisfy. The promises of "eternal life" respond, beyond all hope, to this desire:
If at the end of your very good works . . ., you rested on the seventh day, it was to foretell by the voice of your book that at the end of our works, which are indeed "very good" since you have given them to us, we shall also rest in you on the sabbath of eternal life. [St. Augustine, Conf. 13, 36, 51: PL 32, 868; cf. Gen 1:31]
2003 Grace is first and foremost the gift of the Spirit who justifies and sanctifies us. But grace also includes the gifts that the Spirit grants us to associate us with his work, to enable us to collaborate in the salvation of others and in the growth of the Body of Christ, the Church. There are sacramental graces, gifts proper to the different sacraments. There are furthermore special graces, also called charisms after the Greek term used by St. Paul and meaning "favor," "gratuitous gift," "benefit."[53] Whatever their character—sometimes it is extraordinary, such as the gift of miracles or of tongues—charisms are oriented toward sanctifying grace and are intended for the common good of the Church. They are at the service of charity which builds up the Church. [Cf. 1 Cor 12] ...
2005 Since it belongs to the supernatural order, grace escapes our experience and cannot be known except by faith. We cannot therefore rely on our feelings or our works to conclude that we are justified and saved. [Cf. Council of Trent (1547): DS 1533-1534] However, according to the Lord’s words—"Thus you will know them by their fruits" [Mt 7:20]—reflection on God’s blessings in our life and in the lives of the saints offers us a guarantee that grace is at work in us and spurs us on to an ever greater faith and an attitude of trustful poverty.
A pleasing illustration of this attitude is found in the reply of St. Joan of Arc to a question posed as a trap by her ecclesiastical judges: "Asked if she knew that she was in God’s grace, she replied: ‘If I am not, may it please God to put me in it; if I am, may it please God to keep me there.’" [Acts of the trial of St. Joan of Arc]
III. MERIT

You are glorified in the assembly of your Holy Ones, for in crowning their merits you are crowning your own gifts. [Roman Missal, Prefatio I de Sanctis; Qui in Sanctorum concilio celebraris, et eorum coronando merita tua dona coronas, citing the "Doctor of grace," St. Augustine, En. In Ps. 102, 7: PL 37, 1321-1322]
2006 The term "merit" refers in general to the recompense owed by a community or a society for the action of one of its members, experienced either as beneficial or harmful, deserving reward or punishment. Merit is relative to the virtue of justice, in conformity with the principle of equality which governs it.
2007 With regard to God, there is no strict right to any merit on the part of man. Between God and us there is an immeasurable inequality, for we have received everything from him, our Creator.
2008 The merit of man before God in the Christian life arises from the fact that God has freely chosen to associate man with the work of his grace. The fatherly action of God is first on his own initiative, and then follows man’s free acting through his collaboration, so that the merit of good works is to be attributed in the first place to the grace of God, then to the faithful. Man’s merit, moreover, itself is due to God, for his good actions proceed in Christ, from the predispositions and assistance given by the Holy Spirit.
2009 Filial adoption, in making us partakers by grace in the divine nature, can bestow true merit on us as a result of God’s gratuitous justice. This is our right by grace, the full right of love, making us "co-heirs" with Christ and worthy of obtaining "the promised inheritance of eternal life." [Council of Trent (1547): DS 1546] The merits of our good works are gifts of the divine goodness. [Cf. Council of Trent (1547): DS 1548] "Grace has gone before us; now we are given what is due.... Our merits are God’s gifts." [St. Augustine, Sermo 298, 4-5: PL 38,1367]
2010 Since the initiative belongs to God in the order of grace, no one can merit the initial grace of forgiveness and justification, at the beginning of conversion. Moved by the Holy Spirit and by charity, we can then merit for ourselves and for others the graces needed for our sanctification, for the increase of grace and charity, and for the attainment of eternal life. Even temporal goods like health and friendship can be merited in accordance with God’s wisdom. These graces and goods are the object of Christian prayer. Prayer attends to the grace we need for meritorious actions.
2011 The charity of Christ is the source in us of all our merits before God. Grace, by uniting us to Christ in active love, ensures the supernatural quality of our acts and consequently their merit before God and before men. The saints have always had a lively awareness that their merits were pure grace.
After earth’s exile, I hope to go and enjoy you in the fatherland, but I do not want to lay up merits for heaven. I want to work for your love alone.... In the evening of this life, I shall appear before you with empty hands, for I do not ask you, Lord, to count my works. All our justice is blemished in your eyes. I wish, then, to be clothed in your own justice and to receive from your love the eternal possession of yourself. [St. Therese of Lisieux, "Act of Offering" in Story of a Soul, tr. John Clarke (Washington DC: ICS, 1981), 277]

IV. CHRISTIAN HOLINESS

2012 "We know that in everything God works for good with those who love him . . . For those whom he fore knew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the first-born among many brethren. And those whom he predestined he also called; and those whom he called he also justified; and those whom he justified he also glorified." [Rom 8:28-30]
2013 "All Christians in any state or walk of life are called to the fullness of Christian life and to the perfection of charity." [Lumen Gentium, 40, 2.] All are called to holiness: "Be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect." [Mt 5:48]
In order to reach this perfection the faithful should use the strength dealt out to them by Christ’s gift, so that . . . doing the will of the Father in everything, they may wholeheartedly devote themselves to the glory of God and to the service of their neighbor. Thus the holiness of the People of God will grow in fruitful abundance, as is clearly shown in the history of the Church through the lives of so many saints. [Lumen Gentium, 40, 2.]
2014 Spiritual progress tends toward ever more intimate union with Christ. This union is called "mystical" because it participates in the mystery of Christ through the sacraments - "the holy mysteries" - and, in him, in the mystery of the Holy Trinity. God calls us all to this intimate union with him, even if the special graces or extraordinary signs of this mystical life are granted only to some for the sake of manifesting the gratuitous gift given to all.
2015 The way of perfection passes by way of the Cross. There is no holiness without renunciation and spiritual battle. [Cf. 2 Tim 4] Spiritual progress entails the ascesis and mortification that gradually lead to living in the peace and joy of the Beatitudes:
He who climbs never stops going from beginning to beginning, through beginnings that have no end. He never stops desiring what he already knows. [St. Gregory of Nyssa, Hom. In Cant. 8: PG 44, 941C]
2016 The children of our holy mother the Church rightly hope for the grace of final perseverance and the recompense of God their Father for the good works accomplished with his grace in communion with Jesus. [Cf. Council of Trent (1547): DS 1576] Keeping the same rule of life, believers share the "blessed hope" of those whom the divine mercy gathers into the "holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband." [Rev 21.2]
Compiled by Marcus Grodi - The Coming Home Journal

Marcus Grodi is a former Protestant pastor who, after converting to the Catholic Church founded The Coming Home Network International. Marcus is the host of the weekly EWTN programs the Journey Home (television) and Deep in Scripture (radio).

consider this warning Paul gave: "See then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off" (Rom. 11:22)

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Originally posted by midacts:
How are Roman Catholics saved?

I'm not Catholic scholar, but aren't they saved through their submission to the sacraments, not by faith alone?


Midacts,

It's hard to explain in a few sentences but, Catholics believe one should be baptized and then then walk in faith. It's important to remember:
"He who endures to the end will be saved" (Matt. 24:13; cf. 25:31–46).

So as a catholic am I saved? Yes, I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5–8),

I am also being saved (1 Cor. 1:18, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12)
I am saved.
I am being saved.
And I pray to God that when I leave this earthly life, I will be saved and enjoy eternity in the Presence of Christ.

I don't deserve any of it, and I am unworthy of the Kingdom of God.
I confess my sins, receive the Sacraments, give alms and thanksgiving. I pray, I give all Glory to God the Father.
Am I saved?
I would never presume to say "yes" because I alone am nothing. Jesus says "believe and you are saved".
If I left it at that, there would be SO MUCH missing. I would have missed the entire point of His coming to earth- which was to show us HOW to live. It's not enough to believe, but one has to live that belief, in the way we treat one another. The fruits of salvation? Maybe. But one cannot assume that the Holy Spirits presence in our lives will keep us from sin. It won't. The "fruit" will spoil, suffer bad times, disappear at times, and never live up to the way of the Lord.
I am a sinner. That will not change on this earth. However, with God's graces, I can walk with Christ as best I can, and hopefully, prayerfully, one day, will be saved.
I believe that a Catholic is saved when he/she hears the words "Well done, my good and faithful servant". Not a minute sooner.
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I don't deserve any of it, and I am unworthy of the Kingdom of God.


Veep,

Allow me to disagree.

None of us are worthy of eternal dammmnation. We are born innocent and remain so, with certain exceptions. Charles Manson and Jerry Falwell come to mind.

My lovely friend, we are not born into sin. We didn't ask to be here. We signed no contract. There is no generational responsibility. There is no understanding that we are born sick and commanded to be well.

The story of Adam and Eve is allegorical, at best. There was no Garden. No angel guarding it with a flaming sword. These ideas are the fantasies of ancient herdsmen.

There is no god who judges us based on our ability to believe in him in the utter absence of evidence for his existence. Such a god would be horrible and evil, and therefor inconsistent with the "loving" god in question.

Being good for goodness' sake is the highest achievement of humankind. Goodness requires no gods. We understand goodness, empathy, kindness, and we exercise such qualities in the dubious hopes that such will be extended to us when we need them.

And, eventually, we all do. We do not put old folks on ice floes to die and spare the tribe the effort necessary for their maintenance. We do not kill deficient children. We understand that the best among us can endure hard times. None of this requires the gods.

We humans understand morality. Much of it is hard-wired, but the rest of it is the result of the abstractions our human minds conceive and cherish. Religion is not necessary for kindness, morality, or righteousness. Quite often, it gets in the way.

You are worthy of the best existence has to offer. Your kind heart and active mind is more than enough. Keep in mind that worthy people get the shaft all too often, but that is not God, that is the roll of the dice.

Imagine, if you will, a world without the gods. It would look exactly like the place in which we live.

Thank God we don't need God to be moral. What a horrible place the world would be if we did, since he does not exist.


nsns
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Religion is not necessary for kindness, morality, or righteousness. Quite often, it gets in the way


I agree wholeheartedly with that statement.
I also agree that to be good for goodness sake, and morals are the highest level of humanism to be attained.
BUT the spiritual realm is important in my life. Maybe not yours, and hey- to each his own.
But, I won't stop believing in God because you advise me that it is a fairy tale- for I have felt His Presence in my life. How can ya argue with that? Wink
Schizophrenia? Lol...kidding...

But really and truly, I agree with you on the morality issues- and to be awesome to eachother because it is the right thing to do.
See, here is the difference in my philosophy- I do not believe that God will da&&* anyone to He double hockey sticks because he/she did not believe.
I do believe that God will reveal Himself to each and every one of us when we die, and we will be given the choice.
Does the bible say so?
Well, Jesus said "Blessed are those who believed without seeing" (when He showed his wounds). But I place a lot of importance in the fact that He DID come back, and allow the wound to be visible- even to be touched.
So, I believe that laid the groundwork for belief that He WILL give everyone a chance to see and then believe. His mercy endures forever.
Forever to me means even after death.
So, to make a long story short, I don't believe He*& will be a very crowded place in the long run. I believe many will have to spend a super long time in purgatory, but so be it.
Anyway, you can't rid me of Faith, but we can agree on lots of things.
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cheers.
cheers, m'luv, but I do not respect faith.

Faith is the belief, some say "knowledge", in things for which there is no evidence.

We're better than that now. We have reason to trust our own knowledge about the nature of the Universe.

We have much to learn, but to the extent that we see our own existence, we understand it. No gods are required.

We also see the nature, unnecessity, and futility of the gods, now. They get in the way of morality and understanding. The concept of objective morality is evil and corrosive to the human condition.


nsns
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We also see the nature, unnecessity, and futility of the gods, now. They get in the way of morality and understanding


Ok. Fair enough. But I don't feel in any way deprived or inferior to you for believing.
I respect your viewpoint, but am happy in mine.
God doesnt get in the way of morality. You can say it can be present without God, thats true. But Faith is not an impediment to morality. (**Radicals notwithstanding)
At any rate, we'll all know the answers one day, and if I am wrong, I won't eat my hat or anythign. I'll just be dead.
Hi David,

Roman Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, and all who are Christian believers are saved the same way:

Ephesians 2:8-9, "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and [fn] that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast."

John 3:5, "Jesus answered, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.'"

John 14:6, "Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me."

Romans 10:9-10, "That if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation."

Revelation 3:20, "Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me."

So, David, how is ANYONE saved? By the grace of God, through FAITH in Jesus Christ -- plus NOTHING else.

In your long article, you showed us man's writing. In this post, I have shown you God's writing. Who do you want to trust for your salvation -- man or God?

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Bill, Did you not notice all the bible references in my lengthy post????????? I posted two times, both full of Bible references, how did you miss that?

Hi David,

I will say that I saw one very long paragraph which began by being labeling as Roman Catholic Catechism. And, I did see some faint references to Scripture tagged at the end of many Catechism lessons.

This is exactly what I meant when I wrote that, in the Roman Catholic church -- Tradition/Catechism trumps the Bible.

I will say this David, when you post one very long paragraph -- I will not read it. If you take the time to break your post into shorter, readable paragraphs, I will read it.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by House of David:
*Sorry, this is so lengthy, but after reading Bill Gray's misinterpretation of Catholicism, I felt it necessary to explain my faith.

The following is compiled by Marcus Grodi.
Too often non-Catholics have never heard or read what the Catholic Church truly teaches on issues like Salvation or Justification. They have only too often accepted uncritically what Her antagonists say She teaches. What makes it doubly difficult is that the non-Catholic gospel is very easily simplified into four or five "Spiritual Laws" or a convenient collection of six to eight verses called "The Roman Road," while the Catholic teaching on Salvation and Justification is a much wider and deeper understanding of Scripture and Tradition not easily reducible to a simple formula. As a result, Catholics are sometimes stymied when they are asked to describe succinctly
"How are Catholics saved?"

Given the discussions presented in this Edition of the CHJournal, I give to you the official source from which to hear what the Church truly teaches about salvation, the Catechism of the Catholic Church. To hear the fullest presentation of Catholic teaching on this subject, one should read in entirety Part Three on "Life In Christ." However, the following articles summarize the Church’s teaching on Justification, Grace, Merit and Holiness, all of which sum up to how one is saved by faith in Jesus Christ.
Marcus Grodi —Editor of The Coming Home Journal

The Catechism Of The Catholic Church

I. Justification

1987 The grace of the Holy Spirit has the power to justify us, that is, to cleanse us from our sins and to communicate to us "the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ" and through Baptism: [Rom 3.22; cf. 6:3-4]

But if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him. For we know that Christ being raised from the dead will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him. The death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves as dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. [Rom 6.8-11]

1988 Through the power of the Holy Spirit we take part in Christ’s Passion by dying to sin, and in his Resurrection by being born to a new life; we are members of his Body which is the Church, branches grafted onto the vine which is himself: [Cf. 1 Cor 12; Jn 15.1-4]

[God] gave himself to us through his Spirit. By the participation of the Spirit, we become communicants in the divine nature.... For this reason, those in whom the Spirit dwells are divinized. [St. Athanasius, Ep. Serap. 1, 24: PG 26, 585 & 588]

1989 The first work of the grace of the Holy Spirit is conversion, effecting justification in accordance with Jesus’ proclamation at the beginning of the Gospel: "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." [Mt 4.17] Moved by grace, man turns toward God and away from sin, thus accepting forgiveness and righteousness from on high. "Justification is not only the remission of sins, but also the sanctification and renewal of the interior man. [Council of Trent (1547): Densinger 1528]

1990 Justification detaches man from sin which contradicts the love of God, and purifies his heart of sin. Justification follows upon God’s merciful initiative of offering forgiveness. It reconciles man with God. It frees from the enslavement to sin, and it heals.

1991 Justification is at the same time the acceptance of God’s righteousness through faith in Jesus Christ. Righteousness (or "justice") here means the rectitude of divine love. With justification, faith, hope, and charity are poured into our hearts, and obedience to the divine will is granted us.

1992 Justification has been merited for us by the Passion of Christ who offered himself on the cross as a living victim, holy and pleasing to God, and whose blood has become the instrument of atonement for the sins of all men. Justification is conferred in Baptism, the sacrament of faith. It conforms us to the righteousness of God, who makes us inwardly just by the power of his mercy. Its purpose is the glory of God and of Christ, and the gift of eternal life: [Cf. Council of Trent (1547): DS 1529]

But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from law, although the law and the prophets bear witness to it, the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, they are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as an expiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins; it was to prove at the present time that he himself is righteous and that he justifies him who has faith in Jesus. [Rom 3.21-26]

1993 Justification establishes cooperation between God’s grace and man’s freedom. On man’s part it is expressed by the assent of faith to the Word of God, which invites him to conversion, and in the cooperation of charity with the prompting of the Holy Spirit who precedes and preserves his assent:
When God touches man’s heart through the illumination of the Holy Spirit, man himself is not inactive while receiving that inspiration, since he could reject it; and yet, without God’s grace, he cannot by his own free will move himself toward justice in God’s sight. [Council of Trent (1547): DS 1525]

1994 Justification is the most excellent work of God’s love made manifest in Christ Jesus and granted by the Holy Spirit. It is the opinion of St. Augustine that "the justification of the wicked is a greater work than the creation of heaven and earth," because "heaven and earth will pass away but the salvation and justification of the elect … will not pass away." [St. Augustine, In Jo. Ev. 72, 3: PL 35. 1823] He holds also that the justification of sinners surpasses the creation of the angels in justice, in that it bears witness to a greater mercy.

1995 The Holy Spirit is the master of the interior life. By giving birth to the "inner man," [Cf. Rom 7:22; Eph 3:16] justification entails the sanctification of his whole being:
Just as you once yielded your members to impurity and to greater and greater iniquity, so now yield your members to righteousness for sanctification.... But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the return you get is sanctification and its end, eternal life. [Rom 6:19,22]

II. GRACE

1996 Our justification comes from the grace of God. Grace is favor, the free and undeserved help that God gives us to respond to his call to become children of God, adoptive sons, partakers of the divine nature and of eternal life. [Cf. Jn 1:12-18; 17:3; Rom 8:14-17; 2 Pet 1:3-4]

1997 Grace is a participation in the life of God. It introduces us into the intimacy of Trinitarian life: by Baptism the Christian participates in the grace of Christ, the Head of his Body. As an "adopted son" he can henceforth call God "Father," in union with the only Son. He receives the life of the Spirit who breathes charity into him and who forms the Church.

1998 This vocation to eternal life is supernatural. It depends entirely on God’s gratuitous initiative, for he alone can reveal and give himself. It surpasses the power of human intellect and will, as that of every other creature. [Cf. 1 Cor 2:7-9]

1999 The grace of Christ is the gratuitous gift that God makes to us of his own life, infused by the Holy Spirit into our soul to heal it of sin and to sanctify it. It is the sanctifying or deifying grace received in Baptism. It is in us the source of the work of sanctification: [Cf. Jn 4:14; 7:38-39]

Therefore if any one is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has passed away, behold, the new has come. All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself. [2 Cor 5:17-18]

2000 Sanctifying grace is an habitual gift, a stable and supernatural disposition that perfects the soul itself to enable it to live with God, to act by his love. Habitual grace, the permanent disposition to live and act in keeping with God’s call, is distinguished from actual graces which refer to God’s interventions, whether at the beginning of conversion or in the course of the work of sanctification.

2001 The preparation of man for the reception of grace is already a work of grace. This latter is needed to arouse and sustain our collaboration in justification through faith, and in sanctification through charity. God brings to completion in us what he has begun, "since he who completes his work by cooperating with our will began by working so that we might will it:" [St. Augustine, De gratia st libero arbitrio, 17: PL 44, 901]

Indeed we also work, but we are only collaborating with God who works, for his mercy has gone before us. It has gone before us so that we may be healed, and follows us so that once healed, we may be given life; it goes before us so that we may be called, and follows us so that we may be glorified; it goes before us so that we may live devoutly, and follows us so that we may always live with God: for without him we can do nothing. [St. Augustine, De natura et gratia, 31: PL 44, 264]

2002 God’s free initiative demands man’s free response, for God has created man in his image by conferring on him, along with freedom, the power to know him and love him. The soul only enters freely into the communion of love. God immediately touches and directly moves the heart of man. He has placed in man a longing for truth and goodness that only he can satisfy. The promises of "eternal life" respond, beyond all hope, to this desire:

If at the end of your very good works . . ., you rested on the seventh day, it was to foretell by the voice of your book that at the end of our works, which are indeed "very good" since you have given them to us, we shall also rest in you on the sabbath of eternal life. [St. Augustine, Conf. 13, 36, 51: PL 32, 868; cf. Gen 1:31]

2003 Grace is first and foremost the gift of the Spirit who justifies and sanctifies us. But grace also includes the gifts that the Spirit grants us to associate us with his work, to enable us to collaborate in the salvation of others and in the growth of the Body of Christ, the Church. There are sacramental graces, gifts proper to the different sacraments. There are furthermore special graces, also called charisms after the Greek term used by St. Paul and meaning "favor," "gratuitous gift," "benefit."[53] Whatever their character—sometimes it is extraordinary, such as the gift of miracles or of tongues—charisms are oriented toward sanctifying grace and are intended for the common good of the Church. They are at the service of charity which builds up the Church. [Cf. 1 Cor 12] ...

2005 Since it belongs to the supernatural order, grace escapes our experience and cannot be known except by faith. We cannot therefore rely on our feelings or our works to conclude that we are justified and saved. [Cf. Council of Trent (1547): DS 1533-1534] However, according to the Lord’s words—"Thus you will know them by their fruits" [Mt 7:20]—reflection on God’s blessings in our life and in the lives of the saints offers us a guarantee that grace is at work in us and spurs us on to an ever greater faith and an attitude of trustful poverty.

A pleasing illustration of this attitude is found in the reply of St. Joan of Arc to a question posed as a trap by her ecclesiastical judges: "Asked if she knew that she was in God’s grace, she replied: ‘If I am not, may it please God to put me in it; if I am, may it please God to keep me there.’" [Acts of the trial of St. Joan of Arc]

III. MERIT

You are glorified in the assembly of your Holy Ones, for in crowning their merits you are crowning your own gifts. [Roman Missal, Prefatio I de Sanctis; Qui in Sanctorum concilio celebraris, et eorum coronando merita tua dona coronas, citing the "Doctor of grace," St. Augustine, En. In Ps. 102, 7: PL 37, 1321-1322]

2006 The term "merit" refers in general to the recompense owed by a community or a society for the action of one of its members, experienced either as beneficial or harmful, deserving reward or punishment. Merit is relative to the virtue of justice, in conformity with the principle of equality which governs it.

2007 With regard to God, there is no strict right to any merit on the part of man. Between God and us there is an immeasurable inequality, for we have received everything from him, our Creator.

2008 The merit of man before God in the Christian life arises from the fact that God has freely chosen to associate man with the work of his grace. The fatherly action of God is first on his own initiative, and then follows man’s free acting through his collaboration, so that the merit of good works is to be attributed in the first place to the grace of God, then to the faithful. Man’s merit, moreover, itself is due to God, for his good actions proceed in Christ, from the predispositions and assistance given by the Holy Spirit.

2009 Filial adoption, in making us partakers by grace in the divine nature, can bestow true merit on us as a result of God’s gratuitous justice. This is our right by grace, the full right of love, making us "co-heirs" with Christ and worthy of obtaining "the promised inheritance of eternal life." [Council of Trent (1547): DS 1546] The merits of our good works are gifts of the divine goodness. [Cf. Council of Trent (1547): DS 1548] "Grace has gone before us; now we are given what is due.... Our merits are God’s gifts." [St. Augustine, Sermo 298, 4-5: PL 38,1367]

2010 Since the initiative belongs to God in the order of grace, no one can merit the initial grace of forgiveness and justification, at the beginning of conversion. Moved by the Holy Spirit and by charity, we can then merit for ourselves and for others the graces needed for our sanctification, for the increase of grace and charity, and for the attainment of eternal life. Even temporal goods like health and friendship can be merited in accordance with God’s wisdom. These graces and goods are the object of Christian prayer. Prayer attends to the grace we need for meritorious actions.

2011 The charity of Christ is the source in us of all our merits before God. Grace, by uniting us to Christ in active love, ensures the supernatural quality of our acts and consequently their merit before God and before men. The saints have always had a lively awareness that their merits were pure grace.
After earth’s exile, I hope to go and enjoy you in the fatherland, but I do not want to lay up merits for heaven. I want to work for your love alone.... In the evening of this life, I shall appear before you with empty hands, for I do not ask you, Lord, to count my works. All our justice is blemished in your eyes. I wish, then, to be clothed in your own justice and to receive from your love the eternal possession of yourself. [St. Therese of Lisieux, "Act of Offering" in Story of a Soul, tr. John Clarke (Washington DC: ICS, 1981), 277]

IV. CHRISTIAN HOLINESS

2012 "We know that in everything God works for good with those who love him . . . For those whom he fore knew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the first-born among many brethren. And those whom he predestined he also called; and those whom he called he also justified; and those whom he justified he also glorified." [Rom 8:28-30]

2013 "All Christians in any state or walk of life are called to the fullness of Christian life and to the perfection of charity." [Lumen Gentium, 40, 2.] All are called to holiness: "Be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect." [Mt 5:48]
In order to reach this perfection the faithful should use the strength dealt out to them by Christ’s gift, so that . . . doing the will of the Father in everything, they may wholeheartedly devote themselves to the glory of God and to the service of their neighbor. Thus the holiness of the People of God will grow in fruitful abundance, as is clearly shown in the history of the Church through the lives of so many saints. [Lumen Gentium, 40, 2.]

2014 Spiritual progress tends toward ever more intimate union with Christ. This union is called "mystical" because it participates in the mystery of Christ through the sacraments - "the holy mysteries" - and, in him, in the mystery of the Holy Trinity. God calls us all to this intimate union with him, even if the special graces or extraordinary signs of this mystical life are granted only to some for the sake of manifesting the gratuitous gift given to all.

2015 The way of perfection passes by way of the Cross. There is no holiness without renunciation and spiritual battle. [Cf. 2 Tim 4] Spiritual progress entails the ascesis and mortification that gradually lead to living in the peace and joy of the Beatitudes:

He who climbs never stops going from beginning to beginning, through beginnings that have no end. He never stops desiring what he already knows. [St. Gregory of Nyssa, Hom. In Cant. 8: PG 44, 941C]

2016 The children of our holy mother the Church rightly hope for the grace of final perseverance and the recompense of God their Father for the good works accomplished with his grace in communion with Jesus. [Cf. Council of Trent (1547): DS 1576] Keeping the same rule of life, believers share the "blessed hope" of those whom the divine mercy gathers into the "holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband." [Rev 21.2]
Compiled by Marcus Grodi - The Coming Home Journal

Marcus Grodi is a former Protestant pastor who, after converting to the Catholic Church founded The Coming Home Network International. Marcus is the host of the weekly EWTN programs the Journey Home (television) and Deep in Scripture (radio).


There you go, Bill. Now you can read it. Please don't complain again that it is too long, that would be hypocritical.
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Ok....I'm confused.
How can you be saved but you're being saved. You're either saved or you're not saved.


That's exactly the point, Semi! Smiler
I don't believe that you "lock in" salvation by declaring Jesus as the Lord of your life.
It's a lifelong, ongoing process. Jesus saved us by dying on the cross and rising- so that all who believe may be saved.
But it doesn't stop there- His life on earth was left as a testament to us. We can choose at any time to turn away from God, and life for "earthly" things. So, it is a daily choice to walk as a Christian. We can fall from grace.
So, yes, I am saved, am Being saved, but truly salvation will not occur until after my earthly life is over.
Hope that clears up my viewpoint....
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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
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Originally posted by House of David:
Yes, I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5–8),

I am also being saved (1 Cor. 1:18, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12)


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Originally posted by vplee123:
I am saved.
I am being saved.


Ok....I'm confused. Smiler
How can you be saved but you're being saved. You're either saved or you're not saved.


Semi,

Logic would have it ,given there is a realm of the saved, the sudden appearance of ones self there would indicate you are saved.

Not before.

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