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Camp Quest, founded in 1996, is the first residential summer camp in the United States, Canada and United Kingdom specifically for the children of nontheistic parents (including atheists, agnostics, secular humanists, skeptics, (nontheistic) rationalists, freethinkers, brights, and others who hold a naturalistic worldview).

Programs and activities:
The camp's programs and activities introduce campers to the history and ideas of freethought. Campers also learn about science, astronomy, evolution, the scientific method, critical thinking, philosophy, world religions and church-state separation.

The camp's programs and activities also include what is usual for summer camps: campfires, canoeing, crafts, drama, games, nature hikes, singing, and swimming. Sometimes, however, a spin may be used, such as the telling of an ancient mythical tale around the campfire or the debunking of creationism on part of a nature hike or fossil hunt. Both competitive and cooperative sports are used. Past activities have included how to make a crop circle, how to recognize bias in the media, and visiting old cemeteries to use tombstones as clues to the mores of the past.

The centerpiece of the camp's approach is encouragement of critical thinking and an introduction to logical fallacies. One tradition along these lines is telling the story of two invisible unicorns that inhabit Camp Quest. Campers are told that two invisible unicorns inhabit the camp, that cannot be seen, heard, touched, smelled, tasted, that they cannot hurt you, that they do not eat and leave no mark. An ancient book handed down for countless generations offers proof that the unicorns exist, though no one is allowed to see this book. Any camper who can prove that the unicorns do not exist will win a godless one-hundred dollar bill (printed before 1957, when the U.S. Congress mandated that "In God We Trust" be printed on American fiat currency.) Since offering this challenge in August 1996, the prize remains unclaimed.
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
Camp Quest, founded in 1996, is the first residential summer camp in the United States, Canada and United Kingdom specifically for the children of nontheistic parents (including atheists, agnostics, secular humanists, skeptics, (nontheistic) rationalists, freethinkers, brights, and others who hold a naturalistic worldview).

Programs and activities:
The camp's programs and activities introduce campers to the history and ideas of freethought. Campers also learn about science, astronomy, evolution, the scientific method, critical thinking, philosophy, world religions and church-state separation.

The camp's programs and activities also include what is usual for summer camps: campfires, canoeing, crafts, drama, games, nature hikes, singing, and swimming. Sometimes, however, a spin may be used, such as the telling of an ancient mythical tale around the campfire or the debunking of creationism on part of a nature hike or fossil hunt. Both competitive and cooperative sports are used. Past activities have included how to make a crop circle, how to recognize bias in the media, and visiting old cemeteries to use tombstones as clues to the mores of the past.

The centerpiece of the camp's approach is encouragement of critical thinking and an introduction to logical fallacies. One tradition along these lines is telling the story of two invisible unicorns that inhabit Camp Quest. Campers are told that two invisible unicorns inhabit the camp, that cannot be seen, heard, touched, smelled, tasted, that they cannot hurt you, that they do not eat and leave no mark. An ancient book handed down for countless generations offers proof that the unicorns exist, though no one is allowed to see this book. Any camper who can prove that the unicorns do not exist will win a godless one-hundred dollar bill (printed before 1957, when the U.S. Congress mandated that "In God We Trust" be printed on American fiat currency.) Since offering this challenge in August 1996, the prize remains unclaimed.

Child abuse. Plain and simple.

I'm certain jenn is alumni.
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Originally posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:
Her point is that these kids will be exposed to critical thinking, an invaluable skill.

I think I'll send the Camp Quest endowment fund $50.
Vic, would you send your kid to Camp Quest? If not, why not?

nsns

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A fool an his money. No camp quest, not a camp would I like.


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Vic, I'm no fool. Contributing money to educational causes is a fine and positive tradition.

Critical thinking is THE essential tool for sifting the wheat from the chaff.

The following bulletpoint list of critical thinking issues is probably too much for the Camp Quest kids, but you could get through it.

http://users.tpg.com.au/users/tps-seti/baloney.html

This is bigger than religion, it deals with baloney of all sorts, such as UFOs, demons, ghosts, conspiracies, etc.

Hope you enjoy.


nsns
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Originally posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:
Vic, I'm no fool. Contributing money to educational causes is a fine and positive tradition.

Critical thinking is THE essential tool for sifting the wheat from the chaff.
The following bulletpoint list of critical thinking issues is probably too much for the Camp Quest kids, but you could get through it.
http://users.tpg.com.au/users/tps-seti/baloney.html
This is bigger than religion, it deals with baloney of all sorts, such as UFOs, demons, ghosts, conspiracies, etc.
Hope you enjoy.

nsns

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You wish, but thanks anyway.


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Hi all,

In Mark 10:14 we read, "But when Jesus saw this, He was indignant and said to them, 'Permit the children to come to Me; do not hinder them; for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these.'"

One day we will ALL have to stand before Jesus Christ in judgment -- believers and non-believers. I would shudder to think that I would have to stand before Him and explain why I had purposely drawn young children away from Him.

The people who originate, run, and support such an effort as this Camp Quest -- WILL answer to Him one day. I would not want Him looking at me the way He will look at them.

Keep in mind that He is the God of perfect love; but, perfect love cannot exist with the balance of perfect justice. That perfect justice is what these folks will be facing as they stand before Him on that day. There will truly be wailing and gnashing of teeth (Luke 13:28, Acts 7:54) on that day.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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The people who originate, run, and support such an effort as this Camp Quest -- WILL answer to Him one day. I would not want Him looking at me the way He will look at them.

Well bill, since there is no god you won't have to look on while he tortures people for not believing in him.

Hi Jennifer,

When you were a little girl -- did hiding your head under the blanket make the boogy man go away? The ostrich hiding his head in the sand does not make danger go away either.

And, no matter how much atheists huff and puff -- God will not go away either.

One day we will all wake up on the other side of this life -- and, guess what? For those who deny He exists: SURPRISE! - SURPRISE! - SURPRISE! - as our old friend Gomer Pyle used to say.

Yep, Suprise! -- God is there waiting -- whether you want to believe it or not. I pray, for you sake, and for the sake of those close to you -- that you do wake up before you leave this side and acknowledge Him as Lord and Savior. This will certainly make you eternal life a lot sweeter -- and much cooler!

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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One day we will all wake up on the other side of this life -- and, guess what? For those who deny He exists: SURPRISE! - SURPRISE! - SURPRISE! - as our old friend Gomer Pyle used to say.

Goodness bill, don't you read that "good book"? Your god wouldn't let your friend gomer pyle into heaven. No surprise -surprise, and bill, if there was a god, I don't think he'd be thrilled with you either.
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
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One day we will all wake up on the other side of this life -- and, guess what? For those who deny He exists: SURPRISE! - SURPRISE! - SURPRISE! - as our old friend Gomer Pyle used to say.

Goodness bill, don't you read that "good book"? Your god wouldn't let your friend gomer pyle into heaven. No surprise -surprise, and bill, if there was a god, I don't think he'd be thrilled with you either.

Hi Jennifer,

You are right! There are many things I will have to answer for when I stand before Jesus Christ at the Believers' Judgment. I have and continue to do many things wrong. But, praise God -- I WILL be standing before Him at the Believers' Judgment and not the Great White Throne Judgment of those who are lost.

Regarding Jim Nabors; from what I "personally" know of him -- through his music and acting skills -- he is a fine "son of Alabama" -- one we can be proud to claim.

Yes, I have heard the rumors which you are quick to bring up; just as I have heard the same rumors of Johnny Mathias for many years. By the way, do you enjoy Johnny Mathias' singing? Most people do.

God will not judge anyone based upon a sin; but, upon a sinful lifestyle. We all commit sins -- daily. But, if we are in the family of God; He will forgive us when we ask.

If either of these men are what you want to imply -- but, have turned from that lifestyle and turned to follow Jesus Chrsit -- they are forgiven.

If anyone actively lives a sinful lifestyle -- he/she is not forgiven; for they have not turned to follow Christ. Simple as that.

Are you ready yet to turn and follow Him? If you will, you will be eternally grateful.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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