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Chad Coker, candidate for Colbert County District Court Judge, stated in an April 25th Times Daily article that, if elected, he will "take the time to research the issues and rule quickly."

Well, apparently Mr. Coker must not spend too much time researching the issues, because he violated campaign finance law and illegally solicited campaign contributions during a time period when political candidates in Alabama were not allowed to solicit, receive, or accept contributions.

If you go to this link , you can see that from January 12th through January 31st, the state instituted a "blackout period for soliciting and receiving contributions."

However, during this period, Chad Coker had posted on his campaign website a solicitation page telling supporters where they could send contributions. A copy of the website is attached, and if you look in the bottom right corner, you will see that the date is January 20th, eight days after the blackout began, and eleven days before it ended.

Do we want our next district judge to be somebody who acts before he checks the law?

All of the rules and laws regarding running for office - any office - are clearly posted on the Secretary of State's website. And even if they weren't, you would expect somebody running for district judge to take the time and make sure he followed the law.

If Chad Coker doesn't take the time or have the motivation to research the law on issues that he is personally involved in, then how much time will he spend researching the law on the more mundane issues that come before the district court judge?

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$30,000 dollars has been used to put signs up anywhere and everywhere without permission from most of the people that live or own the property, and while conveniently his signs are going up, Chad's signs are being destroyed or taken down. If you will notice most of Milam's signs are on the very edge of most people's property. A few people have told me that signs were put in their yards without permission.
not sure what Tim Milam is suppose to be worried about or how Chad Coker breaking finance law has anything to do with Tim Milam..
If you are real concerned about where HIS
$30,000 is being spent on campaign you might call his office and ask or since you each seem to know all the candidates business already... It is public documents on the who, what and where campaign finance money is coming from and where it is spent, your mudslinging is obvious and Milam must have your candidiate worried.. hmmmmmmmmm???? at least he is spending his own hard earned money and not someone elses!
Milam has done his share of mudslinging in this campaign and he is not the only one that is putting up signs without permission. Ruggles had one of her big signs at the redlight (corner) in Leighton and I am sure that it was put up without permission because the next morning, someone was tearing it down, and I know they worked for the person that lives there.
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Originally posted by Trutooit-II:
In case you didn't get it, we support Parker not Coker. We just hate to see someone put down for no reason other than he will get more votes than Milam. Milam is the only candidate we've even heard of telling false tales.

http://shoalandaspeaks.blogspo...-district-judge.html


We? As in Sholanda Speaks? Family usally does stick together huh? Isnt TP related to these folks? Seems they are the only ones reporting negative about Milam
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Originally posted by Ang4Blake:
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Originally posted by Trutooit-II:
In case you didn't get it, we support Parker not Coker. We just hate to see someone put down for no reason other than he will get more votes than Milam. Milam is the only candidate we've even heard of telling false tales.

http://shoalandaspeaks.blogspo...-district-judge.html


We? As in Sholanda Speaks? Family usally does stick together huh? Isnt TP related to these folks? Seems they are the only ones reporting negative about Milam

According to my sources I believe your right,
Time to clear the air for Chad Coker:

Let's start with the obvious. Two other candidates also have and have had websites that direct their supporters on how to send contributions.

http://www.tparkerforjudge.com/dcc.html
http://www.rugglesfordistrictjudge.com/Donate.html

These candidates' websites were created before the noted blackout dates and were not removed during this time period. In fact, if you locate websites of candidates running in various races across the great state of Alabama, you might notice that this is quite normal. Why choose to single out Chad Coker unless you have an agenda? Hmmmmmmmmm.

Secondly -

Contributions to Chad Coker's campaign are made available to the public and can be found by following these links.

http://arc-sos.state.al.us/PEL...PDF.003/E0108680.PDF
http://arc-sos.state.al.us/PEL...PDF.003/E0113605.PDF

The reports clearly show that the last contribution Coker accepted before the black out date was 1/11/2010 and the first contribution Coker accepted after the blackout date was 2/3/2010. NO CONTRIBUTIONS WERE ACCEPTED DURING THE BLACKOUT DATES. PERIOD.

Last -

I would just like to state that I am a proud supporter of Chad Coker for Colbert County District Judge. He assisted me in a legal matter and I was impressed with his knowledge and the professional way he handled his law practice.

In late January I mailed a contribution to his law office. I had no idea about "blackout dates" at that time. A few days later I actually received my check back from him with a nice hand written note. He apologized for any inconvenience, explained the law in question, and politely asked me to wait until after February 1st.

It's is such a tragedy that anyone feels the need to attack another person in an effort to obtain votes for themselves or the candidate they support.
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Originally posted by Teena Applegate:
Time to clear the air for Chad Coker:

Let's start with the obvious. Two other candidates also have and have had websites that direct their supporters on how to send contributions.

http://www.tparkerforjudge.com/dcc.html
http://www.rugglesfordistrictjudge.com/Donate.html



That’s interesting. Thanks for sharing Teena

*wonder if they will be fast to point fingers now*
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Originally posted by Teena Applegate:
Time to clear the air for Chad Coker:

Let's start with the obvious. Two other candidates also have and have had websites that direct their supporters on how to send contributions.

http://www.tparkerforjudge.com/dcc.html
http://www.rugglesfordistrictjudge.com/Donate.html

These candidates' websites were created before the noted blackout dates and were not removed during this time period. In fact, if you locate websites of candidates running in various races across the great state of Alabama, you might notice that this is quite normal. Why choose to single out Chad Coker unless you have an agenda? Hmmmmmmmmm.

Secondly -

Contributions to Chad Coker's campaign are made available to the public and can be found by following these links.

http://arc-sos.state.al.us/PEL...PDF.003/E0108680.PDF
http://arc-sos.state.al.us/PEL...PDF.003/E0113605.PDF

The reports clearly show that the last contribution Coker accepted before the black out date was 1/11/2010 and the first contribution Coker accepted after the blackout date was 2/3/2010. NO CONTRIBUTIONS WERE ACCEPTED DURING THE BLACKOUT DATES. PERIOD.

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I would just like to state that I am a proud supporter of Chad Coker for Colbert County District Judge. He assisted me in a legal matter and I was impressed with his knowledge and the professional way he handled his law practice.

In late January I mailed a contribution to his law office. I had no idea about "blackout dates" at that time. A few days later I actually received my check back from him with a nice hand written note. He apologized for any inconvenience, explained the law in question, and politely asked me to wait until after February 1st.

It's is such a tragedy that anyone feels the need to attack another person in an effort to obtain votes for themselves or the candidate they support.


First, Polly Ruggles DID TAKE DOWN HER SOLICITATION PAGE during the blackout. You are not being honest. You presented her webpage as it is today as if that were proof that it was up at that time. It was not. I checked. And if she had broken the law, I certainly would have called her out on it. As for Mrs. Parker, I do not have any hard evidence that she broke the law. If you or anyone else do have proof that she did, then please, by all means, share it with the rest of us. But Chad Coker did break the law, and I have provided proof of that fact.

Second, it doesn't matter if Coker didn't receive or accept any contributions during the blackout period, because the blackout prohibited SOLICITING AND RECEIVING contributions. Coker's webpage clearly was a solicitation. And if it had not been up, then you would not have been able to get the address and mail your contribution in the first place.

Most politicians took down their online solicitations during the blackout period. Here again, you misrepresent the truth to make it seem like everybody left their website solicitations up during that period. Most candidates took their online solicitations down during this time. But Chad Coker did not. And even if Coker was within the bounds of the law (which he wasn't), he was still operating in a gray area, and I don't want our next district judge to be somebody who plays fast and loose with the law.
If you would like to play this like a preschooler then I will lower myself and speak to you on your level. Liar Liar pants on fire. You certainly don't have proof that ANY candidate's donation webpage was up and actively soliciting contributions during the blackout time. If you visit Chad Coker's website you will see it is evident that there is no date or time posted anywhere on the site. ANY JUVENILE CAN COPY AND PASTE A WEB PAGE INTO A WORD DOCUMENT AND TYPE ANY DATE AND TIME THEY PLEASE. I don't call what you posted "proof" I call it SLANDER. You are making a weak attempt to slander the name and reputation of a good man. CHAD COKER ABIDES BY AND RESPECTS THE LAW. If you can't resist the urge to make up stories, please do us all a favor and start your forums with the phrase "Once upon a time".

FYI: I did not get the address to Coker's law office from his website. As I mentioned before, he assisted me in a legal matter so I was well aware of where his office is located. Also, I am an educated Colbert County Citizen and capable of opening a phone book.

Nice try, Hmmmmmmmm, if you had really noticed this web page during the blackout period on Jan. 20th, then why did it take you almost 3 months to post it? Seems like a plan to me. And one other comment that you made - well, I have to ask. If Coker was soliciting contributions during the blackout period, then WHY WOULD HE REFUSE TO ACCEPT THEM AS THEY CAME IN? Makes no sense, but after all, it doesn't have to make sense for you to make it up, right?
It seems to me that all of the dem candidates are pretty much honest people. The only one I know of slinging mud is Milam. Okay let me throw a monkey wrench into the equation. I`m voting for Parker but if you guys don`t like her then I recommend Johnson. If you don`t like him then vote for Ruggles. If she isn`t your cup of tea then vote for Coker. And if you are just tired of a dem holding this office then vote republican.
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Originally posted by Teena Applegate:
If you would like to play this like a preschooler then I will lower myself and speak to you on your level. Liar Liar pants on fire. You certainly don't have proof that ANY candidate's donation webpage was up and actively soliciting contributions during the blackout time. If you visit Chad Coker's website you will see it is evident that there is no date or time posted anywhere on the site. ANY JUVENILE CAN COPY AND PASTE A WEB PAGE INTO A WORD DOCUMENT AND TYPE ANY DATE AND TIME THEY PLEASE. I don't call what you posted "proof" I call it SLANDER. You are making a weak attempt to slander the name and reputation of a good man. CHAD COKER ABIDES BY AND RESPECTS THE LAW. If you can't resist the urge to make up stories, please do us all a favor and start your forums with the phrase "Once upon a time".

FYI: I did not get the address to Coker's law office from his website. As I mentioned before, he assisted me in a legal matter so I was well aware of where his office is located. Also, I am an educated Colbert County Citizen and capable of opening a phone book.

Nice try, Hmmmmmmmm, if you had really noticed this web page during the blackout period on Jan. 20th, then why did it take you almost 3 months to post it? Seems like a plan to me. And one other comment that you made - well, I have to ask. If Coker was soliciting contributions during the blackout period, then WHY WOULD HE REFUSE TO ACCEPT THEM AS THEY CAME IN? Makes no sense, but after all, it doesn't have to make sense for you to make it up, right?


First, I printed Coker's page out on the 20th and scanned it into my computer as a pdf. It was never a word document. But just to be safe, I tested your theory and tried to copy and paste Coker's webpage into a word document. The result was that it cut off part of his name and the tabs to the sites other pages wound up vertical on the right side of the page instead of horizontal under his logo. I tried to fix it and make it look like his page, but I couldn't. (copy and paste it your self and you'll see I'm telling the truth) Also, the web address in the top right corner of the document I attached is wavy as a result of it feeding through my scanner. I couldn't have typed it where it would come out like that. Finally, the picture in my attachment is darker that the picture on Coker's website. This is due to the scanner and how it photocopied the page. So, it seems your theory just doesn't pan out. The attachment is a print out of his page from the 20th of January and then scanned into my computer on that day.

And I'll ask you not to accuse me of slandering Coker when you are the one making claims about Tina Parker and Polly Ruggles and providing nothing to back up your accusations.

Now, regardless of how you found his address, the fact remains that his website had an illegal solicitation posted online during the blackout period. And even if nobody sent him a check during this period, he still broke the law.

Lastly, regarding the timing of this post, you are exactly right. I waited until now to post this document because I wanted people to know what kind of a judge they would be getting if they voted for Chad Coker, and most people don't pay attention to elections until the last two or three weeks before election day. So yes, it was my plan to wait until more people would be paying attention. What's wrong with that? Don't you think people have a right to know what they are getting when they vote for someone?
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Originally posted by nhiswill:
Once again s-speaks and other TMP fans creating controversy for other candidates.. This forum is just a Milam-Coker bash page.. Grow up and take your hostility where it belongs with the trash paper you created leave tdaiy out..


I think you are right. This coming from the Parker camp with the "lie-truitt" from shoalanda putting the blame on Milam. If you people vote for Parker, you can expect more of this kind of childish behavior.
What I'm getting from your post is that you hold onto something until you think the timing is right. So how are the readers of this post to know without a shadow of a doubt that you didn't print the Coker website and scan it in to your computer "when the timing was right"? Since you waited to post a forum about it for nearly 3 months, you may have held that print off for 3 months before you scanned it so your story would sell. How sad of a life you must lead to spend months and months planning a forum post. But your post was as sad attempt to grossly educate voters by spreading lies and slinging mud. So did you accomplish what you had hoped?

For the record, no claims were ever made about Ruggles or Parker, or any other candidate for that matter. I simply stated that other candidates had web pages discussing donations during the blackout period as well. But I am not here to defend myself, nor do I need to do so.

As for you last question to me, I will be glad to answer you. I absolutely believe voters have the right to know their candidates. ALL OF THEM. But people should be able to gather information without trying to decipher truth from lies in a slanderous forum post from an obvious opponent and/or an opponent's supporter. Candidates should obtain votes based on their qualifications. No one should be elected because they were the better of two evils. When you lie about Coker, it looks bad for the candidate you represent. So I gather that your candidate looks so bad on his/her own, that putting Coker down with untruths is the only shot they have at winning.
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Originally posted by Teena Applegate:
What I'm getting from your post is that you hold onto something until you think the timing is right. So how are the readers of this post to know without a shadow of a doubt that you didn't print the Coker website and scan it in to your computer "when the timing was right"? Since you waited to post a forum about it for nearly 3 months, you may have held that print off for 3 months before you scanned it so your story would sell. How sad of a life you must lead to spend months and months planning a forum post. But your post was as sad attempt to grossly educate voters by spreading lies and slinging mud. So did you accomplish what you had hoped?

For the record, no claims were ever made about Ruggles or Parker, or any other candidate for that matter. I simply stated that other candidates had web pages discussing donations during the blackout period as well. But I am not here to defend myself, nor do I need to do so.

As for you last question to me, I will be glad to answer you. I absolutely believe voters have the right to know their candidates. ALL OF THEM. But people should be able to gather information without trying to decipher truth from lies in a slanderous forum post from an obvious opponent and/or an opponent's supporter. Candidates should obtain votes based on their qualifications. No one should be elected because they were the better of two evils. When you lie about Coker, it looks bad for the candidate you represent. So I gather that your candidate looks so bad on his/her own, that putting Coker down with untruths is the only shot they have at winning.


You say no claims were made, and then in the very next sentence, you say that Parker and Ruggles had donation pages posted during the blackout. That IS a claim, my friend. And an incorrect one at that.

And you can keep calling me a liar if you want to, but the proof is there for all to see, and I stand by what I have posted. It is a legitimate point. And so again I ask: Do we want our next district judge to be somebody who doesn't check the law before he acts, even when it's his own career on the line?
No, my comment was not a claim. I can make comments on my own without you needing to put words in my mouth. You, someone who spent months planning, printing, scanning, and posting, you are the one making claims. And let's be clear, I cannot be friends with someone who either does not have or does not listen to their conscience such as yourself. IF THIS CLAIM IS TRUE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE DISQUALIFICATION PAPERS FOR COKER. Oh, let me guess, there are none of those to back up your lie either. Or is your scanner just out of order these days? It is somewhat unclear to me exactly who you are so diligently supporting and I don't want to speculate (that seems to be your thing, not mine). But whoever it is, I hope they realize that their career is on the line. Because, they are the type of person that Colbert County most definitely does not need!
Haven't you noticed that name calling is the "name of the game" in this forum? If you feel threatened you must discredit your opponent. By any means you can do it. I have been watching these threads for quite some time and it just seems to me there is a plan here. To destroy people's reputations. Shame on you. If a politician or his or her supporters resort to such methods he or she must not have enough confidence in his or her own skills to win based on his or her own interactions with the public. And if you feel that way maybe you should be worried because you just might be RIGHT!
All the mud slingling started last year when Tina Parker and her family/friends at Shoalandaspeaks started attacking all of the other candidates in this race. Of Chad Coker, they suggested he used his friendship with Cherokee Mayor Mignon Willis to get Ben Gardner fired and himself appointed as municipal judge. They attacked Polly Ruggles for sending her child to one the best schools in the state of Alabama. Regarding Nathan Johnson, Parker and her people criticized him for taking on criminal defense cases. And before they started calling Tim Milam a mudslinger, they criticized him for using the color red in his campaign signs and said that red was a Republican color.

I agree with infomercial that this race has gotten ugly. But the dirt started flying before Tim Milam even got in the race. It was Shoalandaspeaks that started all of this.
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Originally posted by Kyle:
All the mud slingling started last year when Tina Parker and her family/friends at Shoalandaspeaks started attacking all of the other candidates in this race. Of Chad Coker, they suggested he used his friendship with Cherokee Mayor Mignon Willis to get Ben Gardner fired and himself appointed as municipal judge. They attacked Polly Ruggles for sending her child to one the best schools in the state of Alabama. Regarding Nathan Johnson, Parker and her people criticized him for taking on criminal defense cases. And before they started calling Tim Milam a mudslinger, they criticized him for using the color red in his campaign signs and said that red was a Republican color.

I agree with infomercial that this race has gotten ugly. But the dirt started flying before Tim Milam even got in the race. It was Shoalandaspeaks that started all of this.


THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! VERY WELL SAID
Further truittoit.. since you keep harping on Milams personal contribution of his OWN money to his OWN campaign and more lies of other candidates running a campaign on $5000.00(which is absurd by the way,, as most of your comments are) All anyone that really wants the truth to can be found at http://www.sos.state.al.us/ its real simple to scroll down to bottom of page where it says "View candidate financial reports" then type in each candidates name, click the blue links to see where their contrbutions and expenditures have come from and gone to.. I could have sworn that Truitttoit was suppose to be somewhat of a investigative reporter,, but whatever.... For any that want to relly see who you candidates are indebted to.. check it out yourself.. God bless and have a good day!
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Originally posted by Kyle:
All the mud slingling started last year when Tina Parker and her family/friends at Shoalandaspeaks started attacking all of the other candidates in this race. Of Chad Coker, they suggested he used his friendship with Cherokee Mayor Mignon Willis to get Ben Gardner fired and himself appointed as municipal judge. They attacked Polly Ruggles for sending her child to one the best schools in the state of Alabama. Regarding Nathan Johnson, Parker and her people criticized him for taking on criminal defense cases. And before they started calling Tim Milam a mudslinger, they criticized him for using the color red in his campaign signs and said that red was a Republican color.

I agree with infomercial that this race has gotten ugly. But the dirt started flying before Tim Milam even got in the race. It was Shoalandaspeaks that started all of this.


Kyle, we invite anybody to read anything we've pub. Milam had his facebook page up talking about candidates before there was ever one blog on the election.

Someone made a joke about red. It was funny. Get over it. We've never criticized Chad Coker who we like and think is a good guy and would make a good judge. The blog said there could be backlash from M. Willis and if you've talked to ppl in Cherokee you know there has been.

Criticism of polly Ruggles is based on saying one thing and doing another. I personally couldn't care less where she sends her kids to school, but don't sit on the Sheffield school bd and then tell ppl in Sheffield they need to send their kids there.
Once again cover up but SSpeaks and called on your lies and inuendos.. keep up the good work the more you talk the more credit you give to the other candidates and hurt your own,, BTW.. Tim Milams facebook page is up for eveyone to see and after checking it out several times, I have found no mud towards anyone.. I also have found him to be the only candidate that isnt soliciting campaign money from the public on his sight.. That in itself gets my vote, I know he wont be owing favors down the road!
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Originally posted by Kyle:
All the mud slingling started last year when Tina Parker and her family/friends at Shoalandaspeaks started attacking all of the other candidates in this race. Of Chad Coker, they suggested he used his friendship with Cherokee Mayor Mignon Willis to get Ben Gardner fired and himself appointed as municipal judge. They attacked Polly Ruggles for sending her child to one the best schools in the state of Alabama. Regarding Nathan Johnson, Parker and her people criticized him for taking on criminal defense cases. And before they started calling Tim Milam a mudslinger, they criticized him for using the color red in his campaign signs and said that red was a Republican color.

I agree with infomercial that this race has gotten ugly. But the dirt started flying before Tim Milam even got in the race. It was Shoalandaspeaks that started all of this.


I agree. If Tina Parker loses, it may be the fault of ShoalandaSpeaks. That's a shame for her, too, because I know for a fact that she is no way associated with that site. That site is run by people who have a right to express their opinions and they do. These people also have a right to endorse whoever they wish. However, because they have badmouthed other candidates and also support Tina Parker, it makes it look as if SHE is condoning the badmouthing. She has made it clear to everyone that she has NO interest in all the dirty politics. She wants to win this fair and square because she believes she'll be a great judge.
This is from TMs facebook page -

You would not believe what other people are telling me that other people are doing. They should be embarassed (sic), but are not.

Now, inhiswill, you haven't answered about the storage building tale.

I guess most ppl are like me and don't read every post so they get wrong ideas. I've been a member of this forum for about three years. I came on for one reason and didn't know anybody. I discovered I knew some ppl on here and have also made new friends.

The blog you want to dis was already started when I "joined". I came aboard because a rapist was threatening a couple women. I also helped set up some of their features and was glad to do it. I'm sure I've taken some things too seriously, but why is it this particular election is the only one anybody is complaining about. You don't see that in Lauderdale County, at least not yet.

Many of the things the blog pub. about Tina she sent us, just like other candidates have sent us. I'm sure she did send more because she knew some of the ppl involved. Great. If your candidate doesn't send anything, it can't be pub. Some ppl we've asked twice for info and haven't gotten a reply.

I've went back and read the blogs and I don't see anything that isn't pretty well founded, but I do think ppl read what I write here and think I'm writing the blogs (lol) and guest commentaries, etc. It wouldn't be my intention to hurt anyone who's qualified. I've talked to Jug about some things and he has good points. It boils down to a matter of opinion.

FWIW, we may have a new publisher coming aboard that you all know and if that happens, I will be outta here (not the forum I hope)

We have a poll up now, so everybody can vote and we'll see how that turns out.

I've been accused of shilling for relatives, so here's one for real. Vote for Chad Holden for Lauderdale County School Board place 2.
Ridiculous. I wrote that issue about Polly Ruggles sending her daughter to a private school in Birmingham and sent it to Shoalanda Speaks. I believe that it is hypocritical to serve on the school board and send your children elsewhere. Regardless of sending that item to Shoalanda, I am voting for Chad Coker. I think all the newby accounts created to stir up mud against Chad Coker and the other candidates are becoming redundant. Doesn't Tim Milam's wife have anything better to do than try and continue this desperate tirade? I bet it's killing her that she can live in a huge house, drive a Mercedes and can't buy that election! Honey get out of the house and campaign honestly and directly with the residents of Colbert County! If it's possible for you to be genuinely sincere about anything it is your desire to be a judge's wife!
Indian Springs Magnet School is the best school in the state. Are you telling me that if you had the chance to send your child to the best school in the state, you wouldn't do it?

Besides, her daughter did go to Sheffield schools until she got the opportunity to attend the magnet school. And her son still attends Sheffield schools.

There's nothing hypocritical about doing what's best for your children.

And dragging a 16 year old girl into your dirty politics is shameful!

This election ought to be about who is the most qualified and the most experienced. With all due respect to the other candidates in this race, Polly Ruggles is the most experienced and most qualified. She has been a judge for 16 years, and has worked as a prosecutor, municipal attorney, and assistant district attorney. Plus, she has run her own law practice for nearly 20 years.
Ok, I've said it before. The candidates are the ones who CHOSE to run for office. If they want to sling mud -- have at it. It is not for us to do... unless, of course, one of "us" is one of them. Anyway, I was thinking...

1. As for the "Broke the law during the blackout period", who cares? Could it not have just been an oversight by any/all the candidates. Big deal. Leave it up on your website, just don't physically take any contributions during that period.

2. As for the Campaign Signs being erected in peoples' yards, I thought there was a 6-10 ft. Right Of Way that was public on all streets. Please correct me on the footage if that is incorrect.

3. As for the red used for campaign signs. Again, who cares? Milams are red. Aren't Coker's red too? Red is just an eye-catching color. Is it possible that that is the reason?

Like Rodney King said, "Why can't we all just get along?"
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Originally posted by Arron:
Indian Springs Magnet School is the best school in the state. Are you telling me that if you had the chance to send your child to the best school in the state, you wouldn't do it?

Besides, her daughter did go to Sheffield schools until she got the opportunity to attend the magnet school. And her son still attends Sheffield schools.

There's nothing hypocritical about doing what's best for your children.

And dragging a 16 year old girl into your dirty politics is shameful!

This election ought to be about who is the most qualified and the most experienced. With all due respect to the other candidates in this race, Polly Ruggles is the most experienced and most qualified. She has been a judge for 16 years, and has worked as a prosecutor, municipal attorney, and assistant district attorney. Plus, she has run her own law practice for nearly 20 years.


I may have thought that argument had a point until she was quoted in the TD telling ppl in Sheffield they should send their kids to school there. What? If she doesn't send her kids to Sheffield, why should anybody else. Just tell me that.
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Originally posted by Arron:
Indian Springs Magnet School is the best school in the state. Are you telling me that if you had the chance to send your child to the best school in the state, you wouldn't do it

Besides, her daughter did go to Sheffield schools until she got the opportunity to attend the magnet school. And her son still attends Sheffield schools.
There's nothing hypocritical about doing what's best for your children.

And dragging a 16 year old girl into your dirty politics is shameful!

This election ought to be about who is the most qualified and the most experienced. With all due respect to the other candidates in this race, Polly Ruggles is the most experienced and most qualified. She has been a judge for 16 years, and has worked as a prosecutor, municipal attorney, and assistant district attorney. Plus, she has run her own law practice for nearly 20 years.


Look buddy, if I wanted to spend time on the school board I would do so with the intention of making SHEFFIELD the best school in the state, not sending my child off to a magnet school in B'ham. I just hope her son lobbied to continue to stay at Sheffield because he feels loyalty to Sheffield and not because he wasn't able to make the cut or because mom needs to retain some credibility for serving there. I really don't care where someone else decides to send their kids to school-just don't use your position on the school board as leverage for your own campaign when Sheffield isn't even good enough for ALL your kids to go to. That sends a real nice message to the parents and the children who don't have those types of opportunities which is a nice way of saying PRIVILEGED enough. No matter, I didn't bring it up, someone else implied that TMP or her family wrote that which is why I defended my words. We can agree on one thing though, hypocrisy aside, I would still vote for Polly Ruggles over Tim Milam if I had to choose. And then I would vote Republican in November.
As I stated above, Polly does send her son to school in Sheffield, and her daughter did go to school in Sheffield until she was approached to attend the magnet school.

Polly and her husband didn't go out and apply for a position at this school. They were approached by the school.

It's not like she and her husband decided to send their kids to some uppity private school in the neighboring county. Her son attends school in Sheffield, and so did her daughter until she got this amazing opportunity.

Of course Polly wants kids to attend Sheffield schools. If she didn't believe that, she wouldn't be serving on the school board. But at the same time, if you were given the opportunity to send your child to either the University of North Alabama or a school like Harvard, wouldn't you send them to Harvard?

And, besides, this has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with being District Court Judge.
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Originally posted by Arron:
As I stated above, Polly does send her son to school in Sheffield, and her daughter did go to school in Sheffield until she was approached to attend the magnet school.

Polly and her husband didn't go out and apply for a position at this school. They were approached by the school.

It's not like she and her husband decided to send their kids to some uppity private school in the neighboring county. Her son attends school in Sheffield, and so did her daughter until she got this amazing opportunity.

Of course Polly wants kids to attend Sheffield schools. If she didn't believe that, she wouldn't be serving on the school board. But at the same time, if you were given the opportunity to send your child to either the University of North Alabama or a school like Harvard, wouldn't you send them to Harvard?

And, besides, this has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with being District Court Judge.


Thanks for repeating yourself. I won't bother. It is laughable for to you to try and convince someone that Polly Ruggles was lobbied by the school for her child to attend. Everyone is requested to submit applications based on their website. I'm sure the school was proud to extend an invite to anyone able or interested in paying upwards of $34,000 a year for their child to have the prestige of being an alumni. I would also bet Sheffield schools could use that kind of monetary opportunity in their classrooms. But I'm sure she is aware of that being Vice President of the school board. So, if her serving on the school board makes no difference in the campaign then why use does she need to use it as part of her qualifications platform?
[/Quote] I think all the newby accounts created to stir up mud against Chad Coker and the other candidates are becoming redundant. Doesn't Tim Milam's wife have anything better to do than try and continue this desperate tirade? I bet it's killing her that she can live in a huge house, drive a Mercedes and can't buy that election! Honey get out of the house and campaign honestly and directly with the residents of Colbert County! If it's possible for you to be genuinely sincere about anything it is your desire to be a judge's wife![/QUOTE]

Big Grin ROFL
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Originally posted by rolltidequeen:
I think all the newby accounts created to stir up mud against Chad Coker and the other candidates are becoming redundant. Doesn't Tim Milam's wife have anything better to do than try and continue this desperate tirade? I bet it's killing her that she can live in a huge house, drive a Mercedes and can't buy that election! Honey get out of the house and campaign honestly and directly with the residents of Colbert County! If it's possible for you to be genuinely sincere about anything it is your desire to be a judge's wife![/QUOTE]

Big Grin ROFL[/QUOTE]

And who knows? it could be spouses of other candidates. or even candidates themselves
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Originally posted by immolate99:
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Originally posted by Arron:
As I stated above, Polly does send her son to school in Sheffield, and her daughter did go to school in Sheffield until she was approached to attend the magnet school.

Polly and her husband didn't go out and apply for a position at this school. They were approached by the school.

It's not like she and her husband decided to send their kids to some uppity private school in the neighboring county. Her son attends school in Sheffield, and so did her daughter until she got this amazing opportunity.

Of course Polly wants kids to attend Sheffield schools. If she didn't believe that, she wouldn't be serving on the school board. But at the same time, if you were given the opportunity to send your child to either the University of North Alabama or a school like Harvard, wouldn't you send them to Harvard?

And, besides, this has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with being District Court Judge.


Thanks for repeating yourself. I won't bother. It is laughable for to you to try and convince someone that Polly Ruggles was lobbied by the school for her child to attend. Everyone is requested to submit applications based on their website. I'm sure the school was proud to extend an invite to anyone able or interested in paying upwards of $34,000 a year for their child to have the prestige of being an alumni. I would also bet Sheffield schools could use that kind of monetary opportunity in their classrooms. But I'm sure she is aware of that being Vice President of the school board. So, if her serving on the school board makes no difference in the campaign then why use does she need to use it as part of her qualifications platform?


I didn't say that being on the school board didn't have anything to do with being a judge. I said that where her daughter goes to school doesn't have anything to do with being a judge. A higher court has never overturned a ruling by a lower court because the judge's daughter went to a magnet school for a couple of years.

But her experience on the school board, as well as her experience handling child support cases in the district attorney's office and her everyday experience as a mom, make her uniquely qualified to be a district court judge, because the district court judge has to handle a lot of family and juvenile cases.

As far as the school recruiting her daughter goes, these schools always ask parents of gifted children to send their kids to their schools. And they often offer these students scholarships to do so. I never said that Polly and her husband didn't pay tuition. But her daughter was recruited by the school. They did not approach the school.

So tell us, immolate99, why is some guy (or woman) from Birmingham so interested in a Colbert county district judge's race? Who are you working for? I know that Tina Parker went to law school in Birmingham, and Chad Coker has hired political consultants from Birmingham. Are you working for one of them?
Wait, where does it say I live in B'ham? I live in Tuscumbia. Let me know! Thanks! Oh, and PS. My argument still stands strong in the face of your lame reasoning. I'm sure that magnet school would love to have all gifted children, especially if their families are gifted with $$. As a school board member she should encourage the state to provide these opportunities within Sheffield. A school that SHE wants to be responsible for governing so that she doesn't feel that her daughter would only be successful by being shipped off to "the best school in the state." Also: I don't care if Polly Ruggles has kids or a husband or a conjoined twin living in her bowels, being a mother does not make you any more qualified to serve as a judge than any person that worked to bring a child into this world. If that's your argument, there are a whole lot of black folks that will expect her to recuse herself from situations that need a qualified experienced perspective of their lives! Or men, or the handicapped, or drug addicts or adulterers...so she probably shouldn't try that tactic either. Right Tim Milam folks?
When you wrote "I wrote that issue about Polly Ruggles sending her daughter to a private school in Birmingham and sent it to Shoalanda Speaks." I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that you were in Birmingham when you wrote that. I was also confused because the magnet school is not in Birmingham or Jefferson county, it is in Shelby county in the Indian Springs community. That is close to Birmingham, so I get why you said it was there. But that is why I thought you were in Birmingham, and I apologize for the mistake.

That said, I stand by the points I have made here today. Where Polly's daughter goes to school has nothing to do with Polly's ability to be district judge.

And, by the way, Polly was on the Sheffield School Board YEARS before her daughter went to Indian Springs Magnet School.

The fact is, the schools in Sheffield are great. But there are opportunities available at Indian Springs that just aren't available in Sheffield. And Polly's being on the school board is not going to change that. I think you know that. And if you are that concerned about it, then perhaps you should serve on the school board.

And I'll conclude with the following point:

The district court judge presides over juvenile matters and child support and custody cases. Because Polly has spent 14 years handling child support cases in the district attorneys office, spent 8 years on the Sheffield School Board, and has been a mom for over 16 years, these experiences do give her insight into the issues families face, and how to handle them - insight that the other candidates may not have. So, yes, she should highlight her experience on the school board. Because the issues that face parents and kids in our schools are among the same issues that come into play in the district court.

These experiences, combined with her years as a municipal judge and prosecutor, make her the most experienced and most capable candidate in this race. I have great respect for the other candidates, and I am sure they are fine attorneys. But elections are about getting the best person for the job, and I think Polly's experience makes her the best person for this job.
And hey, I respect your right to your opinion. I like Polly just fine. I just feel like she is the one that has chosen to serve on said board, and if that is it never going to happen for Sheffield to have that same type of school that she would prefer her child to go to then maybe we need to not only look at our current board being able to efficiently bring about change, but on up into the echelons of leaders we elect to do so. If I lived in Sheffield I would certainly consider it myself. Wink Best of luck to you and I appreciate and validate your right to endorse and be proactive in this election process. If we all had the same opinions on candidates there would be no need for campaigns, yes? Smiler
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Originally posted by nhiswill:
Once again s-speaks and other TMP fans creating controversy for other candidates.. This forum is just a Milam-Coker bash page.. Grow up and take your hostility where it belongs with the trash paper you created leave tdaiy out..
your so right from what I have read s-speaks is just one sided bashing other canidates,,you might as well read the national inquirer if your going to keep up with the garbage from s-speaks,,,,,,,,it's me again folks wake up and see what's right in front of your faces it is just a trash paper,,
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Originally posted by gspeaks:
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Originally posted by nhiswill:
Once again s-speaks and other TMP fans creating controversy for other candidates.. This forum is just a Milam-Coker bash page.. Grow up and take your hostility where it belongs with the trash paper you created leave tdaiy out..
your so right from what I have read s-speaks is just one sided bashing other canidates,,you might as well read the national inquirer if your going to keep up with the garbage from s-speaks,,,,,,,,it's me again folks wake up and see what's right in front of your faces it is just a trash paper,,


Would that be because the blog asked that no matter who you voted for in the election, just please don't vote for the one that's a crook & liar? And what paper? I don't see any paper. I know I don't know the right words, but I'm not that bad!
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Originally posted by Trutooit-II:
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Originally posted by gspeaks:
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Originally posted by nhiswill:
Once again s-speaks and other TMP fans creating controversy for other candidates.. This forum is just a Milam-Coker bash page.. Grow up and take your hostility where it belongs with the trash paper you created leave tdaiy out..
your so right from what I have read s-speaks is just one sided bashing other canidates,,you might as well read the national inquirer if your going to keep up with the garbage from s-speaks,,,,,,,,it's me again folks wake up and see what's right in front of your faces it is just a trash paper,,


Would that be because the blog asked that no matter who you voted for in the election, just please don't vote for the one that's a crook & liar? And what paper? I don't see any paper. I know I don't know the right words, but I'm not that bad!


In the very first thread that bashed Tim Milam for his statement, I called you out as a Tina Parker supporter. You denied it, claimed you had no affiliation with her. I stated you would come out and endorse her. That was 2 months ago.
Well guess what, you did exactly what I said you would do.
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Originally posted by Trutooit-II:
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Originally posted by gspeaks:
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Originally posted by nhiswill:
Once again s-speaks and other TMP fans creating controversy for other candidates.. This forum is just a Milam-Coker bash page.. Grow up and take your hostility where it belongs with the trash paper you created leave tdaiy out..
your so right from what I have read s-speaks is just one sided bashing other canidates,,you might as well read the national inquirer if your going to keep up with the garbage from s-speaks,,,,,,,,it's me again folks wake up and see what's right in front of your faces it is just a trash paper,,


Would that be because the blog asked that no matter who you voted for in the election, just please don't vote for the one that's a crook & liar? And what paper? I don't see any paper. I know I don't know the right words, but I'm not that bad!


In the very first thread that bashed Tim Milam for his statement, I called you out as a Tina Parker supporter. You denied it, claimed you had no affiliation with her. I stated you would come out and endorse her. That was 2 months ago.
Well guess what, you did exactly what I said you would do.
hey jugflier been reading your comments the last 2 weeks and you seem to hit nail on the head every time,,I have lived away from colbert county for some time but intend on retiring there,,so it is quite important to keep up with whats going on,,i am not sure who I would vote for if I could but definatley leaning toward Mr. milam and second possibly Coker,,but after reading Sholanda speaks definately know who i would not vote for,,if a blog spot
didn't get finished there not very computer savy here,,lol,,but as I was saying if a blog spot like sholandas has to be that one sided it makes you definately wonder,,,keep your comments coming Jug as i seem to believ you for now,,thanks and it is me gspeaks not sholandaspeaks,,,just my observation,,voting is soon so will see,,
BTW my name is Geneva Speaks not Mrs. Milam thank you I am not afraid to hide behind a name and as I said I am not real computer savy,,guess I need to use spell check,,,in the future i will get it right (Shoalanda)hope that's correct,, but I will not sling mud as you have,,thank you Moral character is a plus in a canidate to me,,i have seen That in the things I have heard about Mr. Milam and one of the other canidates as I stated this is me again gspeaks sorry if my name gets to you I am proud of it,,,
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Originally posted by nhiswill:
not sure what Tim Milam is suppose to be worried about or how Chad Coker breaking finance law has anything to do with Tim Milam..
If you are real concerned about where HIS
$30,000 is being spent on campaign you might call his office and ask or since you each seem to know all the candidates business already... It is public documents on the who, what and where campaign finance money is coming from and where it is spent, your mudslinging is obvious and Milam must have your candidiate worried.. hmmmmmmmmm???? at least he is spending his own hard earned money and not someone elses!
I am knew to this forum and just reading older post to be informed,,,agree with you also,,mudslinging alot against Milam and Coker sounds like a few are definately worried,,,well I will catch up later gotta go to work shift change has done me in,,,it is me again gspeaks,,

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