In response to the "challange" from Peter Rielly (Bill O's redneck cousin I guess)
here is one uniquely tailored for the southern, tea party conservative.

1. Everytime you get the urge to watch Glenn Beck, switch to Comedy Central or better yet cut off the television set.

2. When you see someone use food stamps to check out in the grocery store, DON'T make a mental note of the "luxury" food items they are purchasing such as ice cream.

3. When the Salvation Army announces they are signing needy families up for Christmas gifts, DON'T make it a point to drive by the center and see how many newer model vehicles you can count.

4. When you see a homeless person begging by the side of the road, REFRAIN from whispering under your breath the following: Dope head, hopeless drunk, worthless parasite.

5. When you stop at a red light at an intersection and notice a group of black youths walking down the block, DO NOT immediately lock your vehicle doors or in Alabama check under the seat for your revolver.

6. When you are at the emergency room of the local hospital, don't try to guess who the "charity" cases are and then don't make a mental note of whether they have cell phones, jewelry and the type of shoes they are wearing.

7. And when you feel the urge to repeat whatever it is you heard from a lapse period and you DID watch Fixed News, DON'T say a word and instead get online and actually see if what you heard was fact or fiction.


While you are doing all this, if you want to give a donation to a worthy cause here in the United States that doesn't house itself in a multi-million dollar building or have a satellite broadcast or even to a FOREIGN country where there are epidemics and poverty, that would be GRRRRRRRRRRRRRREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD IT WOULD BE! Roll Eyes
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Did you get those from the "jokes" section on media matters? LOL

And if you think Bill O'Reilly is even close to the level of contitutional conservatism that I am, then you obviously have never watched his show. He is a right leaning moderate at best. Once again, poor lil misinformed Rocky...can only talk about what mediamatters tells him he can talk about. Must be tough to not have any original thought with any depth whatsoever.

By the way,since you know so much about Fox News, and are obviously so concerned with fairness in the media, why don't you start posting factual stories from that network, even if it's ones that you dislike because it speaks negatively about a political figure or decision that you like. That would be fairness...if you did that....but I won't hold my breath. lol
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
Did you get those from the "jokes" section on media matters? LOL

And if you think Bill O'Reilly is even close to the level of contitutional conservatism that I am, then you obviously have never watched his show. He is a right leaning moderate at best. Once again, poor lil misinformed Rocky...can only talk about what mediamatters tells him he can talk about. Must be tough to not have any original thought with any depth whatsoever.

By the way,since you know so much about Fox News, and are obviously so concerned with fairness in the media, why don't you start posting factual stories from that network, even if it's ones that you dislike because it speaks negatively about a political figure or decision that you like. That would be fairness...if you did that....but I won't hold my breath. lol


Be my guest, hold your breath! Big Grin
And I freelanced it on the points in my post, a right winger I actually respect to some degree, Elintorventor, made sure I knew and used PROVENANCE whenever qouting copyrighted material.
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Originally posted by rocky:
In response to the "challange" from Peter Rielly (Bill O's redneck cousin I guess)
here is one uniquely tailored for the southern, tea party conservative.

1. Everytime you get the urge to watch Glenn Beck, switch to Comedy Central or better yet cut off the television set.

2. When you see someone use food stamps to check out in the grocery store, DON'T make a mental note of the "luxury" food items they are purchasing such as ice cream.

3. When the Salvation Army announces they are signing needy families up for Christmas gifts, DON'T make it a point to drive by the center and see how many newer model vehicles you can count.

4. When you see a homeless person begging by the side of the road, REFRAIN from whispering under your breath the following: Dope head, hopeless drunk, worthless parasite.

5. When you stop at a red light at an intersection and notice a group of black youths walking down the block, DO NOT immediately lock your vehicle doors or in Alabama check under the seat for your revolver.

6. When you are at the emergency room of the local hospital, don't try to guess who the "charity" cases are and then don't make a mental note of whether they have cell phones, jewelry and the type of shoes they are wearing.

7. And when you feel the urge to repeat whatever it is you heard from a lapse period and you DID watch Fixed News, DON'T say a word and instead get online and actually see if what you heard was fact or fiction.


While you are doing all this, if you want to give a donation to a worthy cause here in the United States that doesn't house itself in a multi-million dollar building or have a satellite broadcast or even to a FOREIGN country where there are epidemics and poverty, that would be GRRRRRRRRRRRRRREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD IT WOULD BE! Roll Eyes


Challenge for "rocky": When you find that you are about to think, light a candle because that activity in your case seems to be akin to a mental bowl movement and produces a lot of crap that stinks. Now, call me a FOXOPHILE TEABAGGER like the child you obviously are, and feel good about yourself battling those mean ole wepubwicans, sniff, evweybody picks on wittle "wocky" - booohooo Wink
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Originally posted by marksw59:
quote:
Originally posted by rocky:
In response to the "challange" from Peter Rielly (Bill O's redneck cousin I guess)
here is one uniquely tailored for the southern, tea party conservative.

1. Everytime you get the urge to watch Glenn Beck, switch to Comedy Central or better yet cut off the television set.

2. When you see someone use food stamps to check out in the grocery store, DON'T make a mental note of the "luxury" food items they are purchasing such as ice cream.

3. When the Salvation Army announces they are signing needy families up for Christmas gifts, DON'T make it a point to drive by the center and see how many newer model vehicles you can count.

4. When you see a homeless person begging by the side of the road, REFRAIN from whispering under your breath the following: Dope head, hopeless drunk, worthless parasite.

5. When you stop at a red light at an intersection and notice a group of black youths walking down the block, DO NOT immediately lock your vehicle doors or in Alabama check under the seat for your revolver.

6. When you are at the emergency room of the local hospital, don't try to guess who the "charity" cases are and then don't make a mental note of whether they have cell phones, jewelry and the type of shoes they are wearing.

7. And when you feel the urge to repeat whatever it is you heard from a lapse period and you DID watch Fixed News, DON'T say a word and instead get online and actually see if what you heard was fact or fiction.


While you are doing all this, if you want to give a donation to a worthy cause here in the United States that doesn't house itself in a multi-million dollar building or have a satellite broadcast or even to a FOREIGN country where there are epidemics and poverty, that would be GRRRRRRRRRRRRRREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD IT WOULD BE! Roll Eyes


Challenge for "rocky": When you find that you are about to think, light a candle because that activity in your case seems to be akin to a mental bowl movement and produces a lot of crap that stinks. Now, call me a FOXOPHILE TEABAGGER like the child you obviously are, and feel good about yourself battling those mean ole wepubwicans, sniff, evweybody picks on wittle "wocky" - booohooo Wink


Man is marksw59 pissed off! You would think he would be in a better mood since the moderators have fixed the pm function!!!!!!!!! Big Grin Roll Eyes Razzer
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Originally posted by LE89:
If you think that is how we think you must be challenged. Does Mommy know you are on the internet?


Well, with the exception of the Fixed News points, which obviously is the word from on high for republicans, each one of these points represent actual POSTS on this forum in which either the originator or the participants expressed these views. Mainly on the news side, these were the VIEWS stated by those who scream long and loud about "government hand-outs", then a few days ago started the "benevolent" republican non-sense. Hypocrites, look in the mirror.
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Originally posted by mad American:
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Everytime you get the urge to watch Glenn Beck, switch to Comedy Central or better yet cut off the television set

I think comedy central is where most America hating obama supporters get their information.


And yet another response from the gravy bowls replacement, the dining room chair. SHEESH! Roll Eyes
Rocky... answer this question.... Do not dodge this question with any ramblings about Fox News, Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, or the Republican party... just answer this simple short question.

Do you trust other people with your money when those people forcably remove that money from you?

Simple question. Like I said, no rants, just a simple yes or no to a simple question.
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Originally posted by rocky:
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Originally posted by marksw59:
Challenge for "rocky": When you find that you are about to think, light a candle because that activity in your case seems to be akin to a mental bowl movement and produces a lot of crap that stinks. Now, call me a FOXOPHILE TEABAGGER like the child you obviously are, and feel good about yourself battling those mean ole wepubwicans, sniff, evweybody picks on wittle "wocky" - booohooo Wink


Man is marksw59 pissed off! You would think he would be in a better mood since the moderators have fixed the pm function!!!!!!!!! Big Grin Roll Eyes Razzer


Pissed off? Heck no! I was just in the mood for some childish mocking of a childish person deserving of said mocking. Big Grin

BTW, the 'PM' function isn't necessary at all, there are other ways to communicate, and "communicate" is only a euphemism for sex if you're mentally stuck at twelve... or younger... Wink
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Rocky... answer this question.... Do not dodge this question with any ramblings about Fox News, Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, or the Republican party... just answer this simple short question.

Do you trust other people with your money when those people forcably remove that money from you?

Simple question. Like I said, no rants, just a simple yes or no to a simple question

He can't answer, cause he don't know what you are talking about. Hey rocky, have you ever written a check to the IRS?
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Originally posted by rocky:
In response to the "challange" from Peter Rielly (Bill O's redneck cousin I guess)
here is one uniquely tailored for the southern, tea party conservative.

1. Everytime you get the urge to watch Glenn Beck, switch to Comedy Central or better yet cut off the television set.Everytime you get a brainstorm,flush the **** toilet.

2. When you see someone use food stamps to check out in the grocery store, DON'T make a mental note of the "luxury" food items they are purchasing such as ice cream.
Why, do you think our tax dollars should be spent on nonessential items such as satisfying the sweet tooth of crackheads and methheads?
3. When the Salvation Army announces they are signing needy families up for Christmas gifts, DON'T make it a point to drive by the center and see how many newer model vehicles you can count.
So you think someone with a 2009 Escalade wif twentyfos on that biatch still needs help with Christmas,housing,groceries, and stuff?
4. When you see a homeless person begging by the side of the road, REFRAIN from whispering under your breath the following: Dope head, hopeless drunk, worthless parasite.I promise not to call you that no more; now the library is closing. Please shower before you come back.

5. When you stop at a red light at an intersection and notice a group of black youths walking down the block, DO NOT immediately lock your vehicle doors or in Alabama check under the seat for your revolver.Ok, if the poor "disenfranchised black use will pull their pants up,remove their gang colors, speak english without use of the N word or F word, and stop committing an extremely high percentage of crimes compared to their percentage of the population.

6. When you are at the emergency room of the local hospital, don't try to guess who the "charity" cases are and then don't make a mental note of whether they have cell phones, jewelry and the type of shoes they are wearing.
OK, tell the charity cases to pay their **** bills, get a job and insurance,quit taking up emerceny room space for the sniffles,and please be a legal occupant of this country before expecting us to treat their ass for free.
7. And when you feel the urge to repeat whatever it is you heard from a lapse period and you DID watch Fixed News, DON'T say a word and instead get online and actually see if what you heard was fact or fiction.
From who, Obamatards like you? Ha Ha.

While you are doing all this, if you want to give a donation to a worthy cause here in the United States that doesn't house itself in a multi-million dollar building or have a satellite broadcast or even to a FOREIGN country where there are epidemics and poverty, that would be GRRRRRRRRRRRRRREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD IT WOULD BE! Roll Eyes


See, what you don't understand-you pitiful excuse for a pile of organic fertilizer is that conservatives:
Donate far more to chatity than libtards.
Are far less likely to judge based soley on skin pigment and more on actions and attitudes than libtards.
Are generally the men that libtards wish they had the stones to be.
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
Rocky... answer this question.... Do not dodge this question with any ramblings about Fox News, Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, or the Republican party... just answer this simple short question.

Do you trust other people with your money when those people forcably remove that money from you?

Simple question. Like I said, no rants, just a simple yes or no to a simple question.


Look, Billo's redneck cousin, I will play along, although for the life of me I don't really know why. Confused You are obviously so far over the right wing rainbow that even Rush Limbaugh huffing and puffing to blow the white house down wouldn't bring you back. But to answer your question. NO! I mean if someone forcably took my money it would be robbery and so I would not really EXPECT to have any control of what it is used for. And of course, we all know where you are going that taxation is robbery. Let's see Boehner and company run a government without taxes.

You are bordering on becoming a complete dinette set, Billo's redneck cousin. Razzer
Just couldnt pull it off could ya kid? LMAO!!

And yes, that's what happens everytime your paycheck(once you have a job) gets hit. The gov't tells you that you are too stupid to do what you should with a sizable chunk your money and you are forced to either give it to them or go to prison. And you are ok with that? Other folks choosing what to do with your money while threateing you with prison if you don't go along with it?
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
Just couldnt pull it off could ya kid? LMAO!!

And yes, that's what happens everytime your paycheck(once you have a job) gets hit. The gov't tells you that you are too stupid to do what you should with a sizable chunk your money and you are forced to either give it to them or go to prison. And you are ok with that? Other folks choosing what to do with your money while threateing you with prison if you don't go along with it?


And with this post the transition to a mahogany drop leaf table is COMPLETE!!!!!!!!!!!! Roll Eyes
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Originally posted by Stuck-In-Traffic:
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Originally posted by rocky:
In response to the "challange" from Peter Rielly (Bill O's redneck cousin I guess)
here is one uniquely tailored for the southern, tea party conservative.

1. Everytime you get the urge to watch Glenn Beck, switch to Comedy Central or better yet cut off the television set.Everytime you get a brainstorm,flush the **** toilet.

2. When you see someone use food stamps to check out in the grocery store, DON'T make a mental note of the "luxury" food items they are purchasing such as ice cream.
Why, do you think our tax dollars should be spent on nonessential items such as satisfying the sweet tooth of crackheads and methheads?
3. When the Salvation Army announces they are signing needy families up for Christmas gifts, DON'T make it a point to drive by the center and see how many newer model vehicles you can count.
So you think someone with a 2009 Escalade wif twentyfos on that biatch still needs help with Christmas,housing,groceries, and stuff?
4. When you see a homeless person begging by the side of the road, REFRAIN from whispering under your breath the following: Dope head, hopeless drunk, worthless parasite.I promise not to call you that no more; now the library is closing. Please shower before you come back.

5. When you stop at a red light at an intersection and notice a group of black youths walking down the block, DO NOT immediately lock your vehicle doors or in Alabama check under the seat for your revolver.Ok, if the poor "disenfranchised black use will pull their pants up,remove their gang colors, speak english without use of the N word or F word, and stop committing an extremely high percentage of crimes compared to their percentage of the population.

6. When you are at the emergency room of the local hospital, don't try to guess who the "charity" cases are and then don't make a mental note of whether they have cell phones, jewelry and the type of shoes they are wearing.
OK, tell the charity cases to pay their **** bills, get a job and insurance,quit taking up emerceny room space for the sniffles,and please be a legal occupant of this country before expecting us to treat their ass for free.
7. And when you feel the urge to repeat whatever it is you heard from a lapse period and you DID watch Fixed News, DON'T say a word and instead get online and actually see if what you heard was fact or fiction.
From who, Obamatards like you? Ha Ha.

While you are doing all this, if you want to give a donation to a worthy cause here in the United States that doesn't house itself in a multi-million dollar building or have a satellite broadcast or even to a FOREIGN country where there are epidemics and poverty, that would be GRRRRRRRRRRRRRREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD IT WOULD BE! Roll Eyes


See, what you don't understand-you pitiful excuse for a pile of organic fertilizer is that conservatives:
Donate far more to chatity than libtards.
Are far less likely to judge based soley on skin pigment and more on actions and attitudes than libtards.
Are generally the men that libtards wish they had the stones to be.


Woah woah woah, you go on a nice little racist tirade, and then try to say that "Conservatives are far less likely to judged based soley on skin pigment" When you say that everyone who gets foodstamps is a crackhead or meth addict, Protip: they aren't. Also might I add that he didn't say anything about "Black youths that were walking around with their pants around their ankles, swinging a gun around, and can't speak proper english" So please tell me you don't "judge people based on the color of their skin"
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
Rocky... answer this question.... Do not dodge this question with any ramblings about Fox News, Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, or the Republican party... just answer this simple short question.

Do you trust other people with your money when those people forcably remove that money from you?

Simple question. Like I said, no rants, just a simple yes or no to a simple question.


By this logic, all taxes are robbery. So let's just run a government with no taxes, whatsoever. We shall see how that works out. If it weren't for government funded programs we would not have: the internet, computers, RADAR, Planes, cell phones, nylon, kevlar, pyrex, teflon, CAT scans, GPS, digital cameras, and I could go on. So yeah, I would say that money spent on research, development, and education is money well spent.
I would say that government (our) money spent on research. development, and education is money NOT well spent. Show me a government program that is not full of watse and mis-management. Private enterprise could do a much better job than the government.We should pay a 10% flat tax and the government should learn to make do with that. Like Ray Stevens said if 10% is good enough for Jesus it should be enough for Uncle Sam.
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Originally posted by Caduceus:
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
Rocky... answer this question.... Do not dodge this question with any ramblings about Fox News, Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, or the Republican party... just answer this simple short question.

Do you trust other people with your money when those people forcably remove that money from you?

Simple question. Like I said, no rants, just a simple yes or no to a simple question.


By this logic, all taxes are robbery. So let's just run a government with no taxes, whatsoever. We shall see how that works out. If it weren't for government funded programs we would not have: the internet, computers, RADAR, Planes, cell phones, nylon, kevlar, pyrex, teflon, CAT scans, GPS, digital cameras, and I could go on. So yeah, I would say that money spent on research, development, and education is money well spent.


What percentage of gov't spending do you think actually goes to meaningful things? And education??? Have you seen the crap holes that are our public schools these days?

Ferrellj said it right. The private sector is always more efficient at these things. If you are talking about any inventions that have come from research and developement within the military, then I agree. But that is all that the federal gov't is called to do. All the rest has been added on junk.

Think about all the ways you get taxed. Depending on your tax bracket, anywhere from 15 to 35% of your paycheck is taken.
Now, post income tax, you must pay your propertey tax.
Post income tax, you must pay sales tax on everything you buy. (car,groceries, clothes, gas, etc.)
Post income tax, if you own a car, you have to pay license tax.

You have worked your job for the year, and have only actually chosen what you want to do with about 50 to 60% of YOUR OWN MONEY. That's lunacy, and definately not the original intent for this country.

And the greatest part ever!!! If you fit into a certain category decided on by the federal governement, then once you die...guess what... YOU GET TAXED AGAIN!! Anything you leave behind to your loved ones, though you have already been taxed multiple times on all of your assets, the gov't taxes it all one more time.

And in the end....the gov't still mismanages money, gov't funded programs are failing left and right, oh yeah, and the gov't is still broke. So...is this really workin for us?
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Originally posted by rocky:
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
Just couldnt pull it off could ya kid? LMAO!!

And yes, that's what happens everytime your paycheck(once you have a job) gets hit. The gov't tells you that you are too stupid to do what you should with a sizable chunk your money and you are forced to either give it to them or go to prison. And you are ok with that? Other folks choosing what to do with your money while threateing you with prison if you don't go along with it?


And with this post the transition to a mahogany drop leaf table is COMPLETE!!!!!!!!!!!! Roll Eyes


I'm guessin you had nothing factual that would disprove anything I posted, thus yet another meaningless one from you. lol
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Originally posted by ferrellj:
I would say that government (our) money spent on research. development, and education is money NOT well spent. Show me a government program that is not full of watse and mis-management. Private enterprise could do a much better job than the government.We should pay a 10% flat tax and the government should learn to make do with that. Like Ray Stevens said if 10% is good enough for Jesus it should be enough for Uncle Sam.


Okay, here is the thing, almost all of those technologies that I cited were developed from the space race. The problem with the race to the moon was that there was not an economic gain in just going to the moon. The gain is received in the technologies developed to make space travel easier. Now, I don't see a business using their money to go to the moon (assuming that they wouldn't see that the real benefit is received through the R&D to get there)
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Okay, here is the thing, almost all of those technologies that I cited were developed from the space race. The problem with the race to the moon was that there was not an economic gain in just going to the moon. The gain is received in the technologies developed to make space travel easier. Now, I don't see a business using their money to go to the moon (assuming that they wouldn't see that the real benefit is received through the R&D to get there)

And those things would have still come about without the space program. The invention of the car, plane, using electricity, the telephone and thousands of other things managed to come about without any government "need" or costly program. Look at all the "inventions" that are coming onto the market all the time now.
Why does everything have to be about economic gain? Rarely is pure scientific exploration going to produce positive economic outputs, therefore little to no private entities do pure research unless its government sponsored.

The contributions to modern inventions by NASA are many, and many come from Marshall.
The responses by every one of the posters on this forum who align themselves with the Republican party show the type of mean spirited, selfish and uncaring individuals are attracted to this party and philosophy. I am usually all about jabs and comedy in my posts, but on this one I am dead serious and very glad that I am not affiliated with any political party or movement that is populated by individuals that think like these people do. I really believe liberals and those who are affiliated with the democratic party are just more compassionate and all around BETTER human beings.
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Originally posted by Caduceus:
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Originally posted by ferrellj:
I would say that government (our) money spent on research. development, and education is money NOT well spent. Show me a government program that is not full of watse and mis-management. Private enterprise could do a much better job than the government.We should pay a 10% flat tax and the government should learn to make do with that. Like Ray Stevens said if 10% is good enough for Jesus it should be enough for Uncle Sam.


Okay, here is the thing, almost all of those technologies that I cited were developed from the space race. The problem with the race to the moon was that there was not an economic gain in just going to the moon. The gain is received in the technologies developed to make space travel easier. Now, I don't see a business using their money to go to the moon (assuming that they wouldn't see that the real benefit is received through the R&D to get there)


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Space trips for $200,000 lure South Floridians


Not the moon, yet. I would bet you NASA has never sent anyone into space for anywhere near $200,000
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Originally posted by rocky:
The responses by every one of the posters on this forum who align themselves with the Republican party show the type of mean spirited, selfish and uncaring individuals are attracted to this party and philosophy. I am usually all about jabs and comedy in my posts, but on this one I am dead serious and very glad that I am not affiliated with any political party or movement that is populated by individuals that think like these people do. I really believe liberals and those who are affiliated with the democratic party are just more compassionate and all around BETTER human beings.


Rocky, looks like college kids and drugs are still alive.
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Originally posted by ferrellj:
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Originally posted by rocky:
The responses by every one of the posters on this forum who align themselves with the Republican party show the type of mean spirited, selfish and uncaring individuals are attracted to this party and philosophy. I am usually all about jabs and comedy in my posts, but on this one I am dead serious and very glad that I am not affiliated with any political party or movement that is populated by individuals that think like these people do. I really believe liberals and those who are affiliated with the democratic party are just more compassionate and all around BETTER human beings.


Rocky, looks like college kids and drugs are still alive.


Ferrellj, looks like mean spirited, selfish hypocrites expose themselves daily in the way they think about their fellow man.

Hatred and bigotry are alive and well and reside withing the structure of the republican party and their offspring, which is evidenced on this forum daily.
Rocky, which is better, enabling a man to earn the wages necessary to support and protect his family or the government taking take care of him and his family by using tax dollars taken from everyone else? I could say the liberals are the haters and bigots by enabling the poor to remain poor. Government entitlements encourage the poor to remain that way.
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Originally posted by rocky:
The responses by every one of the posters on this forum who align themselves with the Republican party show the type of mean spirited, selfish and uncaring individuals are attracted to this party and philosophy. I am usually all about jabs and comedy in my posts, but on this one I am dead serious and very glad that I am not affiliated with any political party or movement that is populated by individuals that think like these people do. I really believe liberals and those who are affiliated with the democratic party are just more compassionate and all around BETTER human beings.


R U serious?

Every thing you post is regurgitated slobber from the mouth of King Barry Obama and his crew.
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Originally posted by ferrellj:
Rocky, which is better, enabling a man to earn the wages necessary to support and protect his family or the government taking take care of him and his family by using tax dollars taken from everyone else? I could say the liberals are the haters and bigots by enabling the poor to remain poor. Government entitlements encourage the poor to remain that way.


Ferrellj, which is better. A compassionate person stopping to help a homeless man or someone who is like let's say: one of your fellow thugs who post on this forum, Stuck in Traffic or any of the others like let's say; Jennifer, who would pass this man by with the utterance of lazy parasite. And which is better, a cable outlet which actually GAVE this man a job or one that spews a line of individual responsibility yet offers no assistance to an individual who does not meet their "criteria" for receiving an offer. ie: a governor who has quit her job, or a commentator who was fired from another media outlet for controversial remarks. Which one shows the TRUE meaning of charity???????????
another rambling post by rocky with zero substance. Shocking right???

That's not the question to ask lil rock. It's which is better.... That homeless man taking responsibility for his own life and trying to make it better. Then, charitable folks helping him towards his goal of self reliance... OOOORRRRR, that homeless man doing nothing, being content with his fate, and hoping the federal government uses some money that it has taken from working folks and gives it to him. That's the issue here. If you see a homeless man, by all means, help him in some way. I've done that before. Even if it's something simple like givin somebody a pack of smokes, I've done it. But the federal gov't chokes out most folks' ability to give charitably by saying they are going to do it. Once again, it comes back to the question...would you rather CHOOSE YOURSELF WHAT TO DO WITH YOUR OWN MONEY OR HAVE THE GOV'T REMOVE IT FROM YOU WHILE *wink wink* SAYING WE PROMISE *wink wink* THAT WE ARE GONNA HELP ALL THE HUNGRY AND POOR IN THE COUNTRY WITH IT *wink wink*?
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Originally posted by ferrellj:
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Originally posted by Caduceus:
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Originally posted by ferrellj:
I would say that government (our) money spent on research. development, and education is money NOT well spent. Show me a government program that is not full of watse and mis-management. Private enterprise could do a much better job than the government.We should pay a 10% flat tax and the government should learn to make do with that. Like Ray Stevens said if 10% is good enough for Jesus it should be enough for Uncle Sam.


Okay, here is the thing, almost all of those technologies that I cited were developed from the space race. The problem with the race to the moon was that there was not an economic gain in just going to the moon. The gain is received in the technologies developed to make space travel easier. Now, I don't see a business using their money to go to the moon (assuming that they wouldn't see that the real benefit is received through the R&D to get there)


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Space trips for $200,000 lure South Floridians


Not the moon, yet. I would bet you NASA has never sent anyone into space for anywhere near $200,000


And people wouldn't be going to space for 200,000 dollars if it were not for NASA research.
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Originally posted by rocky:
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Originally posted by ferrellj:
Rocky, which is better, enabling a man to earn the wages necessary to support and protect his family or the government taking take care of him and his family by using tax dollars taken from everyone else? I could say the liberals are the haters and bigots by enabling the poor to remain poor. Government entitlements encourage the poor to remain that way.


Ferrellj, which is better. A compassionate person stopping to help a homeless man or someone who is like let's say: one of your fellow thugs who post on this forum, Stuck in Traffic or any of the others like let's say; Jennifer, who would pass this man by with the utterance of lazy parasite. And which is better, a cable outlet which actually GAVE this man a job or one that spews a line of individual responsibility yet offers no assistance to an individual who does not meet their "criteria" for receiving an offer. ie: a governor who has quit her job, or a commentator who was fired from another media outlet for controversial remarks. Which one shows the TRUE meaning of charity???????????



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Ferrellj, which is better. A compassionate person stopping to help a homeless man or someone who is like let's say: one of your fellow thugs who post on this forum, Stuck in Traffic or any of the others like let's say; Jennifer, who would pass this man by with the utterance of lazy parasite. And which is better, a cable outlet which actually GAVE this man a job or one that spews a line of individual responsibility yet offers no assistance to an individual who does not meet their "criteria" for receiving an offer. ie: a governor who has quit her job, or a commentator who was fired from another media outlet for controversial remarks. Which one shows the TRUE meaning of charity???????????

You are so freaking insane I don't see how you even function. I give more to charity in one year than you will give in your entire miserable life. Who did YOU help this year rockhead? Did you send a gift package to a soldier? I did, but of course you didn't. Your kind hates the military and wishes they'd all come home in boxes. Did you send money to St. Judes? Oh hell no you didn't. You kept the money your mommy and daddy gave their "little man." You need to just STFU because you have no idea about me or anyone else you rail against. You are a bitter, nasty, selfish, waste of human flesh. You're worthless, no, you're less than worthless. IF you ever move out of your mommy and daddy's house you're in for a rude awakening. No one is going to pet and pamper you and tell you you're special like your mommy does. And if you run that foul mouth to people in "real life" like you run it in this forum someone will knock those teeth out for you. You stupid spoiled brat. You need an attitude adjustment and one day someone will give it to you. I wish I could see it.
A well know study:

"Sixteen months ago, Arthur C. Brooks, a professor at Syracuse University, published "Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism." The surprise is that liberals are markedly less charitable than conservatives.

If many conservatives are liberals who have been mugged by reality, Brooks, a registered independent, is, as a reviewer of his book said, a social scientist who has been mugged by data. They include these findings:

-- Although liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).

-- Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood.

-- Residents of the states that voted for John Kerry in 2004 gave smaller percentages of their incomes to charity than did residents of states that voted for George Bush.

-- Bush carried 24 of the 25 states where charitable giving was above average.

-- In the 10 reddest states, in which Bush got more than 60 percent majorities, the average percentage of personal income donated to charity was 3.5. Residents of the bluest states, which gave Bush less than 40 percent, donated just 1.9 percent.

-- People who reject the idea that "government has a responsibility to reduce income inequality" give an average of four times more than people who accept that proposition.

Brooks demonstrates a correlation between charitable behavior and "the values that lie beneath" liberal and conservative labels. Two influences on charitable behavior are religion and attitudes about the proper role of government.

The single biggest predictor of someone's altruism, Willett says, is religion. It increasingly correlates with conservative political affiliations because, as Brooks' book says, "the percentage of self-described Democrats who say they have 'no religion' has more than quadrupled since the early 1970s." America is largely divided between religious givers and secular nongivers, and the former are disproportionately conservative. One demonstration that religion is a strong determinant of charitable behavior is that the least charitable cohort is a relatively small one -- secular conservatives."

http://www.realclearpolitics.c...ore_liberal_giv.html

Even the hated Dick Cheney did better than most left wingers.

"According to income tax information released by the White House on Friday, the Cheneys' adjusted gross income in 2005 was $8,819,006.

The sum was largely the result of Mr. Cheney's stock options from Halliburton and royalties from three books written by Mrs. Cheney.

The Cheneys gave more than three-quarters of their income - $6,869,655 - to several charities, including George Washington University's Cardiothoracic Institute and a charity for low-income high school students in the Washington, D.C. area, Capital Partners for Education.

The Cheneys' charitable generosity stands in marked contrast to that of their predecessors, whose sometimes stingy donations became a national embarrassment.

In 1997 for instance, Al and Tipper Gore contributed just $353 to charity, a sum that raised eyebrows even in friendly media circles.

The Los Angeles Times noted, for instance, that the Gores' slender donation "caused some bewilderment in philanthropic circles because of the vice president's 'good guy' image as an advocate for public service and social causes."

The same year the Gores gave $353 to charity, they reported $197,729 in adjusted gross income."

http://www.freerepublic.com/fo...f-news/1615415/posts

Most if my charitable donations go to Disabled Vets, Paralyzed Vets, the USO and St Judes. Nice to know I give more than a former VP (Al Bore). Wonder is he's giving more now that he's a carbon trading billionaire. Of course, his ex will get a major portion!

The consummate self involved gold digger, John Kerry didn't do much better than Al.

"During the early 1990s, with no apparent presidential aspirations, Kerry contributed the following amounts: $0 in 1991; $820, 1992; $175, 1993; $2,039, 1994; and $0, 1995. Last year, however, after media attention, he gave $43,735.

However, it was painless giving. Kerry published a book -- still available in discount bins -- spelling out his positions on public policy issues. He is drawing from the proceeds to pay his taxes and giving the rest to charity."

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Originally posted by ferrellj:
Rocky, which is better, enabling a man to earn the wages necessary to support and protect his family or the government taking take care of him and his family by using tax dollars taken from everyone else? I could say the liberals are the haters and bigots by enabling the poor to remain poor. Government entitlements encourage the poor to remain that way.


Ferrellj, which is better. A compassionate person stopping to help a homeless man or someone who is like let's say: one of your fellow thugs who post on this forum, Stuck in Traffic or any of the others like let's say; Jennifer, who would pass this man by with the utterance of lazy parasite. And which is better, a cable outlet which actually GAVE this man a job or one that spews a line of individual responsibility yet offers no assistance to an individual who does not meet their "criteria" for receiving an offer. ie: a governor who has quit her job, or a commentator who was fired from another media outlet for controversial remarks. Which one shows the TRUE meaning of charity???????????


I've got your "thug" swinging little boy.

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