FLORIDA:

 

A church in Jacksonville, Florida is coming under fire for its controversial decision to ban children from its church services.

 

According to a local Jacksonville news affiliate, Christ Tabernacle Missionary Baptist Church has banned children from attending Sunday services because their new pastor, Darrell Gilyard, is a registered sex offender and cannot have contact with children.

 

In 2009 Gilyard plead guilty to lewd conduct and lewd molestation of two underage girls. While he was the pastor of Shiloh Baptist Church Gilyard molested a 15-year-old girl and sent a lewd text message to another. Under the conditions of his plea agreement, Gilyard cannot have “unsupervised contact with children under 18 years old,” and his new church has taken extraordinary steps to help Gilyard stick to the terms of his deal.

 

Despite the seriousness of his offense, Gilyard’s return to the pulpit was swift. After being released from jail on December 28, he resumed preaching in January, and  told reporters he hopes he can move past this incident and continue with his work.

 

“Somehow I will prove that life isn’t over when one has committed a crime for which he receives this heinous label,” Gilyard told a reporter, ironically through text message. “You don’t have to languish on the fringes of society.”

 

While I believe in forgiveness, banning children from church in order to welcome a pedophile into the fold is not only creepy, but it’s downright shameful.

 

http://www.clutchmagonline.com...ep-pedophile-pastor/

 

 

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Hi Jennifer Best,

 

IF that is true, I would not consider that a Christian church.  But, for some reason the link you give does not work.

 

IF it is true, I would be curious which Baptist denomination would tolerate such an action.  OR, is he only using the Baptist name -- without being affiliated with any Baptist denomination?   It would be interesting to know more about such a church.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Truly sickening.

Can't think of a better response than that. It says it all.

Hi Vic,

 

Thank you for those links.  I did read both and found this in the second link:

 

Since joining Christ Tabernacle on North Davis Street, the congregation has had to adapt to changes. Under the terms of Gilyard's release, court documents show he is not allowed to have "unsupervised contact with children under 18 years old."  The church agreed to ban children from Sunday service.

 

Sunday, a woman tried to bring a 2-year-old boy she babysits to services, but was turned away.

 

"They said for the next two weeks, no children are allowed," Wanda Evans said. "This is the second Sunday, no children, so next week's Sunday, kids will be able to be allowed."

 

I am not sure why they did this for two weeks?  Possibly to allow him to explain to the congregation what he did and why he pleaded guilty.  I can't say.  

 

However, that could have been done in a separate "adults only" church meeting at some time other than during the normal Sunday morning worship time, which is a time for ALL people, of all ages, to come together and worship the Lord.

 

I will send this to a close Friend who has been a Southern Baptist pastor/evangelist for about 60 years and get his thoughts on it.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

While it's possible that all the facts are not out there are far too many congregations that elevate the Pastors to an almost deity status as if they were somehow gods themselves.  I don't know if that is the case in this Church but from the articles that are posted and what it seems I do believe that the Church is not keeping things according to the way Scriptures says to handle conflict and problems.  The problem with what they are doing is in the way it is hurting their potential witness for Christ and allowing wedges to be used to divide people's attention from what they should be concentrating on.

 

That though is my own opinion.

Originally Posted by INVICTUS:

 

 

FLORIDA:

 

A church in Jacksonville, Florida is coming under fire for its controversial decision to ban children from its church services.

 

According to a local Jacksonville news affiliate, Christ Tabernacle Missionary Baptist Church has banned children from attending Sunday services because their new pastor, Darrell Gilyard, is a registered sex offender and cannot have contact with children.

 

 

In 2009 Gilyard plead guilty to lewd conduct and lewd molestation of two underage girls. While he was the pastor of Shiloh Baptist Church Gilyard molested a 15-year-old girl and sent a lewd text message to another. Under the conditions of his plea agreement, Gilyard cannot have “unsupervised contact with children under 18 years old,” and his new church has taken extraordinary steps to help Gilyard stick to the terms of his deal.

 

Despite the seriousness of his offense, Gilyard’s return to the pulpit was swift. After being released from jail on December 28, he resumed preaching in January, and  told reporters he hopes he can move past this incident and continue with his work.

 

“Somehow I will prove that life isn’t over when one has committed a crime for which he receives this heinous label,” Gilyard told a reporter, ironically through text message. “You don’t have to languish on the fringes of society.”

 

While I believe in forgiveness, banning children from church in order to welcome a pedophile into the fold is not only creepy, but it’s downright shameful.

 

http://www.clutchmagonline.com...ep-pedophile-pastor/

 

 

 

Originally Posted by INVICTUS:

 

 

FLORIDA:

 

A church in Jacksonville, Florida is coming under fire for its controversial decision to ban children from its church services.

 

According to a local Jacksonville news affiliate, Christ Tabernacle Missionary Baptist Church has banned children from attending Sunday services because their new pastor, Darrell Gilyard, is a registered sex offender and cannot have contact with children.

 

In 2009 Gilyard plead guilty to lewd conduct and lewd molestation of two underage girls. While he was the pastor of Shiloh Baptist Church Gilyard molested a 15-year-old girl and sent a lewd text message to another. Under the conditions of his plea agreement, Gilyard cannot have “unsupervised contact with children under 18 years old,” and his new church has taken extraordinary steps to help Gilyard stick to the terms of his deal.

 

Despite the seriousness of his offense, Gilyard’s return to the pulpit was swift. After being released from jail on December 28, he resumed preaching in January, and  told reporters he hopes he can move past this incident and continue with his work.

 

“Somehow I will prove that life isn’t over when one has committed a crime for which he receives this heinous label,” Gilyard told a reporter, ironically through text message. “You don’t have to languish on the fringes of society.”

 

While I believe in forgiveness, banning children from church in order to welcome a pedophile into the fold is not only creepy, but it’s downright shameful.

 

http://www.clutchmagonline.com...ep-pedophile-pastor/

 

 

____

Well, Invictus, YOUR favorite church had its own way of dealing with its rampantly pedophile clergy.  They just shuttled them from parish to parish, providing fresh territory for them to carry out their vile activities in.

The very curmudgeon contendah offered.........

 

Well, Invictus, YOUR favorite church had its own way of dealing with its rampantly pedophile clergy.  They just shuttled them from parish to parish, providing fresh territory for them to carry out their vile activities in.

 

Well I think everyone is aware of passed practices but are you up to date

with what the Church is doing today?

 

The Catholic Church's record of aggressive and proactive protective measures is unparalleled in any organization today. Since the beginning of the abuse crisis, the Catholic Church:

 

 

has instituted a "zero tolerance" policy in which any credibly accused priest is immediately removed from ministry. Law enforcement is also notified;

 

has trained over 5 million children in giving them skills to protect them from abuse;

 

has trained over 2 million adults, including 99 percent of all priests, in recognizing signs of abuse;

 

has conducted over 2 million background checks, including those in the intensified screening process for aspiring seminarians and priests;

 

has installed "Victim Assistance Coordinators" in every diocese, "assuring victims that they will be heard";

 

has conducted annual independent audits of all dioceses to monitor compliance with the groundbreaking 2002 Charter for Protection of Children and Young People;

 

has instituted in all dioceses abuse review boards – often composed of child welfare experts, child psychologists, and abuse experts – to examine any claims of abuse against priests.

 

No other organization even comes close to implementing the measures the Catholic Church has taken to protect children in its care. In this regard, the Catholic Church in the 21st century is the model for other institutions to follow in the sa***uarding of youth.

 

1
IT'S NOT ABOUT CATHOLIC PRIESTS

FACT: Catholic priests abuse at a rate far lower than that of other males in the general population. Read more

 

2
THE GRAND CONSPIRACY THAT WASN'T

 

FACT: You would never know it from the media's lurid and obsessive coverage, but the vast bulk of reported cases of abuse stem only from a historical anomaly, as most allegations occurred during only a small sliver of time during the Sexual Revolution from the 1960s to the early 1980s. And despite media suggestions of dark conspiracies and cover-ups, the Church – like every other institution at the time – simply followed the then-prevailing view of experts in the field that offenders could be successfully rehabilitated and sent accused priests off for treatment, rather than reporting them to police, which resulted in a temporary spike in recidivism. Read more

 

3
THE REAL NEWS: CURRENT ACCUSATIONS AGAINST CATHOLIC PRIESTS ARE EXTREMELY RARE

 

FACT: Almost all accusations against Catholic priests date from many decades ago, and indeed nearly half of all abuse accusations concern priests who are already long dead. In a body of 77 million people, contemporaneous accusations of abuse against Catholic clergy in the United States are very rare, recently averaging only 8 allegations deemed "credible" by review boards each year. Read more

 

 

4

 

THE STORY THE MEDIA WON'T REPORT: THE EPIDEMIC OF ABUSE AND COVER-UPS GOING ON TODAY IN OUR OWN PUBLIC SCHOOLS

 

 

FACT: The incidence of sexual abuse by teachers in public schools today has been estimated to be "more than 100 times" that by Catholic priests, and there is alarming evidence of school officials covering up abuse and failing to report suspected cases to authorities. Yet the mainstream media has largely ignored this shocking story while still rehashing decades-old allegations of abuse by Catholic priests. Read more

 

2004 U.S. Department of Education report reported that "the most accurate data available" reveals that "nearly 9.6 percent of [public school] students are targets of educator sexual misconduct sometime during their school career."

This result prompted Hofstra University's Dr. Charol Shakeshaft, the author of the study, to opine in 2006, "[T]hink the Catholic Church has a problem? The physical sexual abuse of students in schools is likely more than 100 times the abuse by priests."

A Meanwhile, that same 2004 report cited an important study from the mid-1990s:

"In an early [1994] study of 225 cases of educator sexual abuse in New York, all of the accused had admitted to sexual abuse of a student but none of the abusers was reported to authorities."

That is an important and alarming fact:

Number of abusive educators: 225 Number reported by school officials to police: 0

So, in other words, as recently as just 1994, it was the universal practice in New York among school administrators not to call police to report abusers.

The 1994 study also reported that only 1 percent of those abusive educators lost their license. In addition, most alarmingly, "25 percent received no consequence or were reprimanded informally and off-the-record. Nearly 39 percent chose to leave the district, most with positive recommendations or even retirement packages intact."

 

5
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TODAY: A MODEL FOR THE PROTECTION OF CHILDREN

 

FACT: The Catholic Church is likely the safest environment for children today. Read more

The Catholic Church's record of aggressive and proactive protective measures is unparalleled in any organization today. Since the beginning of the abuse crisis, the Catholic Church:

  • has instituted a "zero tolerance" policy in which any credibly accused priest is immediately removed from ministry. Law enforcement is also notified;
  • has trained over 5 million children in giving them skills to protect them from abuse;
  • has trained over 2 million adults, including 99 percent of all priests, in recognizing signs of abuse;
  • has conducted over 2 million background checks, including those in the intensified screening process for aspiring seminarians and priests;
  • has installed "Victim Assistance Coordinators" in every diocese, "assuring victims that they will be heard";
  • has conducted annual independent audits of all dioceses to monitor compliance with the groundbreaking 2002 Charter for Protection of Children and Young People;
  • has instituted in all dioceses abuse review boards – often composed of child welfare experts, child psychologists, and abuse experts – to examine any claims of abuse against priests.

No other organization even comes close to implementing the measures the Catholic Church has taken to protect children in its care. In this regard, the Catholic Church in the 21st century is the model for other institutions to follow in the sa***uarding of youth.

 

http://www.themediareport.com/fast-facts/

 

 

Originally Posted by INVICTUS:
Originally Posted by INVICTUS:

 

 

FLORIDA:

 

A church in Jacksonville, Florida is coming under fire for its controversial decision to ban children from its church services.

 

According to a local Jacksonville news affiliate, Christ Tabernacle Missionary Baptist Church has banned children from attending Sunday services because their new pastor, Darrell Gilyard, is a registered sex offender and cannot have contact with children.

 

 

In 2009 Gilyard plead guilty to lewd conduct and lewd molestation of two underage girls. While he was the pastor of Shiloh Baptist Church Gilyard molested a 15-year-old girl and sent a lewd text message to another. Under the conditions of his plea agreement, Gilyard cannot have “unsupervised contact with children under 18 years old,” and his new church has taken extraordinary steps to help Gilyard stick to the terms of his deal.

 

Despite the seriousness of his offense, Gilyard’s return to the pulpit was swift. After being released from jail on December 28, he resumed preaching in January, and  told reporters he hopes he can move past this incident and continue with his work.

 

“Somehow I will prove that life isn’t over when one has committed a crime for which he receives this heinous label,” Gilyard told a reporter, ironically through text message. “You don’t have to languish on the fringes of society.”

 

While I believe in forgiveness, banning children from church in order to welcome a pedophile into the fold is not only creepy, but it’s downright shameful.

 

http://www.clutchmagonline.com...ep-pedophile-pastor/

 

What is this world coming too? A molester is a molester until he dies for he likes it and will not stop. He may be a pastor but to me that is just a front and the people of that church should hold their heads in shame for backing him. Being a pastor will not stop him from molesting children, he will find them somewhere else. What foolish, foolish people. 

 

 

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