quote:Originally posted by Trutooit-II:
bubba deleted a post?
Not this bubba - all posts still here.
Not this bubba - all posts still here.
Not this bubba - all posts still here.
Bubbaluck, once again you are getting involvved in Colbert County politics when we all know you are an attorney in Lauderdale County. In fact, you posted in January that Dick Jordan was your city council representative. You have discussed eating at Dish every day for lunch (kind of hard to do for someone who supposedly works in Sheffield). You have discussed your child being ticketed for a noise ordinance violation in Florence. You repeatedly comment on legal posts. In fact, you have posted about listening to the testimony in a trial in Lauderdale County and about going by the courthouse.
Isn't it ironic that a Lauderdale County attorney is trying to be the voice of reason for arguing that sommeone from Lamar County should be the District Judge of Colbert County?
I have just a sampling of your posts linked below.....
Here is the post stating that Dick Jordan is your council rep:
http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...?r=18810565#18810565
Here is the post discussing eating at Dish every day for lunch:
http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...711039196#9711039196
Happened to be at the courthouse and talked about Ronnie Willis:
http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...281049707#6281049707
Son got ticketed for violating noise ordinance in Florence:
http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...101052517#3101052517
Heard a lot of the testimony in the Wright trial in Lauderdale County:
http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...67?r=3771067#3771067
Isn't it ironic that a Lauderdale County attorney is trying to be the voice of reason for arguing that sommeone from Lamar County should be the District Judge of Colbert County?
I have just a sampling of your posts linked below.....
Here is the post stating that Dick Jordan is your council rep:
http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...?r=18810565#18810565
Here is the post discussing eating at Dish every day for lunch:
http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...711039196#9711039196
Happened to be at the courthouse and talked about Ronnie Willis:
http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...281049707#6281049707
Son got ticketed for violating noise ordinance in Florence:
http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...101052517#3101052517
Heard a lot of the testimony in the Wright trial in Lauderdale County:
http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...67?r=3771067#3771067
Who cares if bubbaluck is from Lauderdale County? It's so typical of people like you to avoid any argument on the merits and instead try to tear down the person trying to make the argument.
Besides deshlertigermom, if you want to slam bubbaluck for who he is in real life, why don't you have some guts and tell us who you are??
Besides deshlertigermom, if you want to slam bubbaluck for who he is in real life, why don't you have some guts and tell us who you are??
I always thought bubba was a woman? No?
Since this forum has taken all angles, most appearing to be directed by deshlertigermom bashing Chad Coker, I have a question? Suppose somebody from another county meets a friend from Colbert County and comes to visit? The "somebody" from another county visits his friend in Tuscumbia and Colbert County and likes the area and wants to move here and make a life? The "somebody" and his wife are good citizens and contribute to their community in multiple ways. Obviously - the "somebody" is Chad Coker. He is an attorney and wishes to serve his community as District Judge. He has gained experience as a Municipal Judge for several years. Why would anybody who wants good for their community question a person WHO CHOSE to live here as compared to anywhere else he could have gone? I bet deshlertigermom and a few others on this forum can't say they CHOSE TO LIVE HERE - it's all they have known - and by the posts saying Chad is not from Colbert County and can't understand "Colbert County families" is narrowminded. Families are different anywhere else? If this the way people who want to move to and contribute to this community are treated, when WHY WOULD ANYBODY WANT TO COME?
I find it interesting that "justwannaknow" writes his or her first post about this issue since bubbaluck was bubbabusted.
Justwannaknow, you are missing the point...had you followed the very lengthy discussion that has gone on, you would have seen that the point is that Mr. Coker is supported by a good ole boy fraternity in Tuscumbia trying to tell the rest of Colbert County how to vote. Further, you state that Mr. Coker has gained experience as a municipal judge for several years. Please tell us, if you know, about his experience, such as where and how many years he has served as a judge.
If Mr. Coker chooses to run on his accomplishments justwannaknow, then by all means share with us what those are.
EVERY other candidate has lived in Colbert County longer than Mr. Coker. So, based on your questions, you tell us why you think Mr. Coker would better serve as district judge than Nathan Johnson, Polly Ruggles, Tina Parker, and Tim Milam.
According to my research, all of these candidates have more experience as lawyers than Mr. Coker and they all have families in Colbert County. So enlighten us, what separates him from the rest?
Justwannaknow, you are missing the point...had you followed the very lengthy discussion that has gone on, you would have seen that the point is that Mr. Coker is supported by a good ole boy fraternity in Tuscumbia trying to tell the rest of Colbert County how to vote. Further, you state that Mr. Coker has gained experience as a municipal judge for several years. Please tell us, if you know, about his experience, such as where and how many years he has served as a judge.
If Mr. Coker chooses to run on his accomplishments justwannaknow, then by all means share with us what those are.
EVERY other candidate has lived in Colbert County longer than Mr. Coker. So, based on your questions, you tell us why you think Mr. Coker would better serve as district judge than Nathan Johnson, Polly Ruggles, Tina Parker, and Tim Milam.
According to my research, all of these candidates have more experience as lawyers than Mr. Coker and they all have families in Colbert County. So enlighten us, what separates him from the rest?
Interesting or not, I do not know who bubbaluck is and don't care aobut him/her being busted.
Yes, Mr. Coker has experience as a Municipal Court Judge. He has been the Judge in Russellville over four years. He is also the Municipal Judge in Cherokee but I'm not sure for how long so I won't speculate.
As I HAVE followed "the very lengthy discussion that has gone on", I do see the initial issue you brought up about Mr. Coker being supported by "a good ole boy fraternity...trying to tell the rest of Colbert County how to vote".
I was under the impression that citizens have a right to vote for whom they choose - AND support the candidate they choose. Why is it any different for the "good ole boy fraternity" to have "their" choice of candidate based on their own right of choice? Why is that wrong, when you and others on this forum obviously have your own choice of candidate as well? They support "their" candidate just like you support yours.
My question/response was along the lines of the other responses to your first post - you seem to be complaining about the "blue-bloods" AND the fact that the Coker family is newer to the area than the other candidates. Complaining about both factors is in conflict with your own argument - but that has been pointed out before with no explanation from you.
To borrow your phrase - you are "missing the point" of my post. Attacking Mr. Coker because he isn't native to Colbert County is a shallow reason. Maybe the "bluebloods" have learned more about him and believe he is qualified and would make a good Judge. That is more than you have considered.
I believe he is qualified. I am not concerned with the other candidates. The character of a candidate (and his/her supporters) is seen by the way he/she runs a race - by providing the reasons he/she would be the best for the position instead of attacking the other candidate(s). I want a judge with character who understands how to treat people and be respectful.
Mr. Coker's accomplishments are highlighted on his facebook page and his campaign material. I personnally believe he is qualified, and most inmportantly would do a good job, because I have seen how he handles himself as a Judge. He is very wise in his judgements and rules with common sense. Hopefully, fairness, respect and common sense are more important than where a person was born.
Yes, Mr. Coker has experience as a Municipal Court Judge. He has been the Judge in Russellville over four years. He is also the Municipal Judge in Cherokee but I'm not sure for how long so I won't speculate.
As I HAVE followed "the very lengthy discussion that has gone on", I do see the initial issue you brought up about Mr. Coker being supported by "a good ole boy fraternity...trying to tell the rest of Colbert County how to vote".
I was under the impression that citizens have a right to vote for whom they choose - AND support the candidate they choose. Why is it any different for the "good ole boy fraternity" to have "their" choice of candidate based on their own right of choice? Why is that wrong, when you and others on this forum obviously have your own choice of candidate as well? They support "their" candidate just like you support yours.
My question/response was along the lines of the other responses to your first post - you seem to be complaining about the "blue-bloods" AND the fact that the Coker family is newer to the area than the other candidates. Complaining about both factors is in conflict with your own argument - but that has been pointed out before with no explanation from you.
To borrow your phrase - you are "missing the point" of my post. Attacking Mr. Coker because he isn't native to Colbert County is a shallow reason. Maybe the "bluebloods" have learned more about him and believe he is qualified and would make a good Judge. That is more than you have considered.
I believe he is qualified. I am not concerned with the other candidates. The character of a candidate (and his/her supporters) is seen by the way he/she runs a race - by providing the reasons he/she would be the best for the position instead of attacking the other candidate(s). I want a judge with character who understands how to treat people and be respectful.
Mr. Coker's accomplishments are highlighted on his facebook page and his campaign material. I personnally believe he is qualified, and most inmportantly would do a good job, because I have seen how he handles himself as a Judge. He is very wise in his judgements and rules with common sense. Hopefully, fairness, respect and common sense are more important than where a person was born.
Coker is judge in 2 towns - http://shoalandaspeaks.blogspo...nside-track-for.html
If we are sick of "politics as usual" (aka Democrats) lets elect Kyle Brown for a change!
Justwannaknow, I looked at the campaign websites and Facebook pages of the candidates. According to those websites, all of the candidates except one have years more experience as a lawyer than Mr. Coker. Furthermore, other candidates have much more experience as a judge than Mr. Coker. Mr. Coker's website and Facebook page show that he is less qualified than several of his opponents. All of the other candidates are of excellent character and have reputations for fairness. So again, the question must be raised - why would anyone vote for a person from Lamar County who has much less experience than the other candidates for Colbert County District Judge?
Question, justwannaknow, you state he is very wise in his judgments and rules with common sense. How do you know this? People outside Tuscumbia really don't have a clue what goes on inside the courthouse. So, do tell.
Question, justwannaknow, you state he is very wise in his judgments and rules with common sense. How do you know this? People outside Tuscumbia really don't have a clue what goes on inside the courthouse. So, do tell.
Tina Miller Parker will get my vote.
No disrespect, but its two different ball games. Go to municipal court and watch. Then go to District or circuit court and watch.
There's really not much ruling on law in municipal court that I've seen. I'm not saying anybody could be a city judge, but it just doesn't give them any experience for the other jobs.
There's really not much ruling on law in municipal court that I've seen. I'm not saying anybody could be a city judge, but it just doesn't give them any experience for the other jobs.
Trutooit, if I understand you correctly, municipal court experience does not give a lawyer experience to be a judge. Therefore, if I understand you correctly, experience as a trial lawyer in circuit court or district court is what provides the necessary experience.
If your logic is correct Trutooit, then Chad Coker is still not the most qualified candidate for district court judge. Several of the other candidates have been practicing longer, and all of them have more trial court experience than Mr. Coker. Therefore, the boy from Lamar County is still the least qualified for the job.
If your logic is correct Trutooit, then Chad Coker is still not the most qualified candidate for district court judge. Several of the other candidates have been practicing longer, and all of them have more trial court experience than Mr. Coker. Therefore, the boy from Lamar County is still the least qualified for the job.
That was just my opinion. Maybe lawguy could tell us. I know municipal judges have to know codes and all that, but when I've been its been mainly traffic tickets. Once there were some PIs or D&Ds. Anybody convicted can ask for a circuit court trial, so that tells you something.
I'm not voting in Colbert, but how much less experience does Coker have? It can't be a lot less can it? That doesn't mean I would support him, I just want to be fair.
I'm not voting in Colbert, but how much less experience does Coker have? It can't be a lot less can it? That doesn't mean I would support him, I just want to be fair.
If you need proof that Chad Coker is part of the good ole boy network, check out his Facebook page. He and Roger Bedford are friends. Roger wrote on Mr. Coker's wall, "Great to see you on FB! Please give my BEST to your Fine Family. I remember your Dad helping me greatly in 1982!"
Doesn't get much more good ole boy than that...Roger Bedford thanking Chad Coker's father for helping him get elected in Lamar County....a Franklin County politician thanking a Lamar County politician for helping him get elected in 1982...now they have they have their sights set on Colbert County.
Here is the link to the Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/search...h&id=100000174321043
Doesn't get much more good ole boy than that...Roger Bedford thanking Chad Coker's father for helping him get elected in Lamar County....a Franklin County politician thanking a Lamar County politician for helping him get elected in 1982...now they have they have their sights set on Colbert County.
Here is the link to the Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/search...h&id=100000174321043
deshlertigermom, Methinks you are showing your true intentions - again, as I stated in my first post - of bashing Chad Coker. I will explain:
Municipal Court and District Court are more related than anyone posting on this forum seems to understand. True, Municipal Court is mostly traffic tickets and minor misdemeanors, all the way from Public Intoxication to Possession of Marijuana II to Domestic Violence and DUI (first, second and third offenses). Municipal Courts handle the tickets issued in the municipality it serves. District court and Municipal Courts have concurrent jurisdiction - which means they handle alot of hte same type of cases. District court does handle juvenile cases in some counties, not in others. And DC handles preliminary hearings and sets bonds on felonies as well. THEY ARE BOTH CRIMINAL COURTS. I say that to say this - how many of the other candidates have CRIMINAL COURT experience? And, of those that do, at least one (you should know whom of which I speak) has proven he cannot hold his tongue long enough to speak wisely and respectfully. Hence my previous argument for Chad Coker - he has never been anything but respectful in any setting which I have witnessed. I want a judge on the bench who knows how to treat people, rules with common sense, and is respectful to all who earn it. Experience may or may not be a deciding factor.
This returns to my original reason for entering this forum - EVERY citizen should become educated about the candidates and make their choice. You're attacking the "blue-bloods" or Roger Bedford seems to be a diversion from stating the qualities of another candidate.
Once again, you are conflicting with your own argument by attempting to "tell" people in "Tuscumbia how to vote".
Just the facts, please. And since this is a forum, of course opinion is operative. Just make sure it is not fueled by something other than educated information. And if you have that, to borrow your phrase..."Do tell."
Municipal Court and District Court are more related than anyone posting on this forum seems to understand. True, Municipal Court is mostly traffic tickets and minor misdemeanors, all the way from Public Intoxication to Possession of Marijuana II to Domestic Violence and DUI (first, second and third offenses). Municipal Courts handle the tickets issued in the municipality it serves. District court and Municipal Courts have concurrent jurisdiction - which means they handle alot of hte same type of cases. District court does handle juvenile cases in some counties, not in others. And DC handles preliminary hearings and sets bonds on felonies as well. THEY ARE BOTH CRIMINAL COURTS. I say that to say this - how many of the other candidates have CRIMINAL COURT experience? And, of those that do, at least one (you should know whom of which I speak) has proven he cannot hold his tongue long enough to speak wisely and respectfully. Hence my previous argument for Chad Coker - he has never been anything but respectful in any setting which I have witnessed. I want a judge on the bench who knows how to treat people, rules with common sense, and is respectful to all who earn it. Experience may or may not be a deciding factor.
This returns to my original reason for entering this forum - EVERY citizen should become educated about the candidates and make their choice. You're attacking the "blue-bloods" or Roger Bedford seems to be a diversion from stating the qualities of another candidate.
Once again, you are conflicting with your own argument by attempting to "tell" people in "Tuscumbia how to vote".
Just the facts, please. And since this is a forum, of course opinion is operative. Just make sure it is not fueled by something other than educated information. And if you have that, to borrow your phrase..."Do tell."
Being friends on Facebook or MySpace doesn't make one bosom buddies.
As for experience, I would think Coker might now want to remove the Cherokee gig from his CV.
As for experience, I would think Coker might now want to remove the Cherokee gig from his CV.
Firenze, I agree - Cherokee politics have gotten nuts.
On a lighter note, I am so glad to finally see some sunshine!
On a lighter note, I am so glad to finally see some sunshine!
Johnson is sell out and Coker is a good guy for as I can tell, I would vote for Tina Parker Miller or Coker before I would Johnson.
What did Johnson sell out to?
Has anyone heard of Milam misrepresenting his opponents' experience?
quote:Originally posted by Trutooit-II:
What did Johnson sell out to?
For one he was a key figure in the debacle that was the incorporation of Ford City. People were lied to by the minions of a certain wealthy individual who it seems helped finance the deal. When the map was finally released, the certain rich man and his buddies land was excluded from the incorporation, but they were still going to run it. The people figured out they were hoodwinked and got it thrown out of court.
Johnson was the attorney for the certain interests who funded the attempted land grab, that's why many out that way are not supporting him.
quote:Originally posted by deshlertigermom:
Bubbaluck, I don't really care where someone grew up. However, I do care about what ties that person actually has to the community in which they now live and about whom that person associates with. My problem with Chad Coker is that he has no family in Colbert County at all and has based his entire base on the good ole boy network.
My concern is that if he were to be elected judge, what would drive his decisions? It certainly wouldn't be an understanding of the citizens of Colbert County or the families of Colbert County. My concern is that he will be obligated to the good ole boy network.
We have endured enough good ole boy politics in Colbert County. It's time to elect leaders who can stand on their own merits, not ones who rely on the good ole boy network to pass the mantle to them.
Shouldnt his decisions be based on the law...not how well connected he is in the community?
quote:Originally posted by Jugflier:quote:Originally posted by Trutooit-II:
What did Johnson sell out to?
For one he was a key figure in the debacle that was the incorporation of Ford City. People were lied to by the minions of a certain wealthy individual who it seems helped finance the deal. When the map was finally released, the certain rich man and his buddies land was excluded from the incorporation, but they were still going to run it. The people figured out they were hoodwinked and got it thrown out of court.
Johnson was the attorney for the certain interests who funded the attempted land grab, that's why many out that way are not supporting him.
Jugflier sounds to me you need to get your facts straight about Johnson. Johnson only showed up for one meeting because someone asked him to so they could get an attorney's opinion on the issue. I know him personally and when I saw this comment I called him and asked him. I also know for a fact he ain't a liar. He is a good Christian man who believes in doing what is right. So before you start accusing him for being a key figure you need to get your facts straight. He played not even a minor part in the whole Ford City issue. All he did was show up. I might show up to a meeting but it doesn't mean I am gonna lead it or even support it. And I don't know where you or Evg WC get that he is a sell out. He believes in Colbert County and its people. And if you don't believe any of this then PICK UP THE PHONE call him and ask. Oh and I know you got part of your information correct on what happened because I too have information and sources. I am close to one of the people who was against the Ford City issue. So I do know what I am talking about and I know how it all happened. So yes, you have everything right, except Johnson.
And you know what else...sure is funny you have a problem with people talking about Coker and Miliam but you don't mind slinging some mud of your own against Johnson. Just saying.
quote:Originally posted by rolltidequeen:quote:Originally posted by Jugflier:quote:Originally posted by Trutooit-II:
What did Johnson sell out to?
For one he was a key figure in the debacle that was the incorporation of Ford City. People were lied to by the minions of a certain wealthy individual who it seems helped finance the deal. When the map was finally released, the certain rich man and his buddies land was excluded from the incorporation, but they were still going to run it. The people figured out they were hoodwinked and got it thrown out of court.
Johnson was the attorney for the certain interests who funded the attempted land grab, that's why many out that way are not supporting him.
Jugflier sounds to me you need to get your facts straight about Johnson. Johnson only showed up for one meeting because someone asked him to so they could get an attorney's opinion on the issue. I know him personally and when I saw this comment I called him and asked him. I also know for a fact he ain't a liar. He is a good Christian man who believes in doing what is right. So before you start accusing him for being a key figure you need to get your facts straight. He played not even a minor part in the whole Ford City issue. All he did was show up. I might show up to a meeting but it doesn't mean I am gonna lead it or even support it. And I don't know where you or Evg WC get that he is a sell out. He believes in Colbert County and its people. And if you don't believe any of this then PICK UP THE PHONE call him and ask. Oh and I know you got part of your information correct on what happened because I too have information and sources. I am close to one of the people who was against the Ford City issue. So I do know what I am talking about and I know how it all happened. So yes, you have everything right, except Johnson.
And you know what else...sure is funny you have a problem with people talking about Coker and Miliam but you don't mind slinging some mud of your own against Johnson. Just saying.
Rolltide queen,
If I misrepresented his part in that debacle then I apologize to you and him. Sometimes perception is reality. He did come to the meeting you spoke of and joked something to the effect (If my memory is correct) that he would like to be the first mayor.
I don't want to argue this point too much but his name did float around this thing before he came to the meeting. What role he played, I don't know.
Now answer me this, the incorporation couldn't have gone forward without legal representation, who was the attorney or attorneys of record on the incorporation?
Jug, I've never thought about it and you or someone may know. For an area to incorporate (and I guess it's pretty rare today), how is the exact area decided and how do those residents agree on hiring a lawyer? Could they just contact their state senator?
As for Johnson, did he have any conflicts of interest? Does he live in that area?
As for Johnson, did he have any conflicts of interest? Does he live in that area?
quote:Originally posted by Infomercial:
Jug, I've never thought about it and you or someone may know. For an area to incorporate (and I guess it's pretty rare today), how is the exact area decided and how do those residents agree on hiring a lawyer? Could they just contact their state senator?
As for Johnson, did he have any conflicts of interest? Does he live in that area?
Johnson lives in the Leighton area, actually near Brick Hatton, so yes he is from that area.
As for the incorporation, there was a petition drive, and several meetings. At one of these meetings it is my understanding Johnson spoke at. This meeting was covered by the Times Daily, and if my memeory of it is correct, johnson stated he would like to be the first mayor, jokingly I'm sure. But the fact that he addressed the public assembly, and there were probably more than a 100, means he had some official capacity.
The petition was thrown out when people filed a petition to do so, this was done by one of the local judges. All this legal manouvering required legal representation.
Am I wrong on this about Nathan Johnson? Is he the one at the meeting who joked about being the first mayor?
I searched Times DAILY and found an article that showed his dad was on the committe to incorporate.
I searched Times DAILY and found an article that showed his dad was on the committe to incorporate.
Apology accepted 
No worries. Johnson is a Leighton boy but he didn't live in the area in question at the time and still doesn't. So no conflict. As for what he joked about with you why don't you call him? I dont' see how he could have been the first mayor if he wasn't going to part of the area any way. He wouldn't mind talking to you 381-3917. That is his office. It is in the phonebook. I am not aware that he addressed the people at that meeting. He just told me he attended it. I believe his particpation was minimal.
No worries. Johnson is a Leighton boy but he didn't live in the area in question at the time and still doesn't. So no conflict. As for what he joked about with you why don't you call him? I dont' see how he could have been the first mayor if he wasn't going to part of the area any way. He wouldn't mind talking to you 381-3917. That is his office. It is in the phonebook. I am not aware that he addressed the people at that meeting. He just told me he attended it. I believe his particpation was minimal.
To be fair, sounds like it was just a joke. Heck, if they're growing that fast, I'm a goo...uhh, adequate golfer, I can be mayor.
quote:Originally posted by Trutooit-II:
To be fair, sounds like it was just a joke. Heck, if they're growing that fast, I'm a goo...uhh, adequate golfer, I can be mayor.
The interesting question for me is Why was Nathan's dad on the committee to incorporate Ford City when he lives in Brick Hatton, 5 or 6 miles away? The map of the proposed incorporated area inclused no land in brick Hatton and only a small sliver of land East of county line road, co rd 48.
I will be voting for Polly Ruggles, Len Gregory, and Heath Utley. I feel they are best for the job.
Tim Milam gave his campaign $30,000.00. Whew...........!
http://shoalandaspeaks.blogspo...to-his-campaign.html
http://shoalandaspeaks.blogspo...to-his-campaign.html
i am leaning towards either milam or johnson. not sure yet, i think milam is more qualified than johnson but i think johnson is just cute, he is so little 
quote:Originally posted by Trutooit-II:
Endorsement for Tina Parker.
http://shoalandaspeaks.blogspo...-district-judge.html
No suprise here, you have been the water carrier for her from the beginning. The cabal from accross the river trying to pick our judges on this side of the river.
I have a few questions. Does the judgeship require a public oath? Does that oath include a vow to God? Does a marriage vow include the same kind of oath? Exactly, How many times has she already violated that oath?
quote:Originally posted by Jugflier:quote:Originally posted by Trutooit-II:
Endorsement for Tina Parker.
http://shoalandaspeaks.blogspo...-district-judge.html
No suprise here, you have been the water carrier for her from the beginning. The cabal from accross the river trying to pick our judges on this side of the river.
I have a few questions. Does the judgeship require a public oath? Does that oath include a vow to God? Does a marriage vow include the same kind of oath? Exactly, How many times has she already violated that oath?
Interesting question. One I am sure many would like to see an answer too.
that is an oath that shouldnt be taken lightly. are all the others married?
Tim Milam supports the community, is fair and honest, and has worked to get to this point in his life. I know his work ethic and I know he is not afraid to get his hands dirty and do real work. He has represented me to my complete satisfaction, and has earned my respect and vote.
he seems like a pretty good guy. saw him/his family at a fish cooking a few weeks ago. really nice guy