WH...
I never equated to any level of his job performance either as a councilman or law enforcment official...I simply said the law does not prevent a YO from holding any of those positions...
Don't like his job performance as a councilman, then pull a different lever at the next election...
But follow the law, leave your personal vendetta out of the equation...you will come across a whole lot better in this present debate exchange if you do...
quote:Originally posted by trader:
WH...
I never equated to any level of his job performance either as a councilman or law enforcment official...I simply said the law does not prevent a YO from holding any of those positions...
Don't like his job performance as a councilman, then pull a different lever at the next election...
But follow the law, leave your personal vendetta out of the equation...you will come across a whole lot better in this present debate exchange if you do...
Now I am confused. Was it not you that stated this...
quote:It appears this Youthful Offender Act did what it was suppose to do. It allowed the individual in question to go about making his life in such a manner to become not only a productive member of society, but to contribute to the community by holding an elected office and also becoming a representative of an law enforcement agency.
You go on to state...
quote:But follow the law, leave your personal vendetta out of the equation...you will come across a whole lot better in this present debate exchange if you do...
What law have I broken?
WH...
You get an A...that is what I said....if you want to be say it again...just read it twice...
You get an A...that is what I said....if you want to be say it again...just read it twice...
When someone runs for a public office, The people have a right to know if the candidate has a criminal history, youthful offender or not. Period. And if a gun is put in their hands, the public and/ or those in authority have a right to know.
How do you suggest they find out?
quote:Originally posted by trader:
WH...
You get an A...that is what I said....if you want to be say it again...just read it twice...
You are funny.
BTW...what law did I break?quote:Originally posted by WH:quote:Originally posted by trader:
WH...
You get an A...that is what I said....if you want to be say it again...just read it twice...
You are funny.
I don't know the full story that happened way back when Steve worked at Burger King, but I do know him now. He was hired by Mr Lansdell several years ago as a police officer and later held the chief's position. I don't agree with everything that the city council does(both sides) and think that they all need to grow up. But Steve has grown and matured since he was 18, as all of us have, and now he has a family. All of this has stirred up so much that his family doesn't even feel safe in their OWN HOME. That is crazy. The courts handled what was done back when he was 18, LET IT GO. If people want to talk, that is their right, but DONT make physical threats toward them!
quote:Originally posted by SuperEMT:
I don't know the full story that happened way back when Steve worked at Burger King, but I do know him now. He was hired by Mr Lansdell several years ago as a police officer and later held the chief's position. I don't agree with everything that the city council does(both sides) and think that they all need to grow up. But Steve has grown and matured since he was 18, as all of us have, and now he has a family. All of this has stirred up so much that his family doesn't even feel safe in their OWN HOME. That is crazy. The courts handled what was done back when he was 18, LET IT GO. If people want to talk, that is their right, but DONT make physical threats toward them!
When were the physical threats made?
YO can be found in a "Secret Clearance" investigation. I had to go get a copy of my police report to send in to the gov't when I was getting a clearance. I didn't report it, and they asked me to get them the info.
I only have a casual acquaintance with the subject person of this form (not naming them to prevent further harm) but I was aware that there was something in his past. At one of the council meetings when he did stand up to the mayor, at the end of the meeting the mayor made the statement 'you are forgetting where you come from' then continued telling him something in a low voice that I could not here. Then he was cornered in the parking lot by a crowd of the Lansdell gang. (I used the' instead of “ because I did not want to take the time to find the correct video to get the exact words)
After that night the councilman's demeanor changed. I don't know if there were any threat made then or not but that is when I found out about his past. I (personalty felt like the mayors comment in the manor and tone they were made was a threat and after finding out about his past I felt sure it was. If he was threatened with the exposure of the past, the power of the threat is over now, now that it has been put on this form. So people might want to watch future developments because he has nothing to lost now.
I want to give you a real story that I do know about and then ask you a question for you to ponder.
A man married a woman with a daughter but later they divorced. Even later he was arrested and charged for molesting his step-daughter. When it finally got to court, the step-daughter admitted that her mother had put her up to it because she (the mother) was mad at him.
Now the question: if say in 10 or so years he decides to run for office or applies for a job where he would be working with underage girls, would it be morally right and/or fair for someone to go back in the archives of TD and re-post the article of his arrest?
Ye without sin cast the first stone.
After that night the councilman's demeanor changed. I don't know if there were any threat made then or not but that is when I found out about his past. I (personalty felt like the mayors comment in the manor and tone they were made was a threat and after finding out about his past I felt sure it was. If he was threatened with the exposure of the past, the power of the threat is over now, now that it has been put on this form. So people might want to watch future developments because he has nothing to lost now.
I want to give you a real story that I do know about and then ask you a question for you to ponder.
A man married a woman with a daughter but later they divorced. Even later he was arrested and charged for molesting his step-daughter. When it finally got to court, the step-daughter admitted that her mother had put her up to it because she (the mother) was mad at him.
Now the question: if say in 10 or so years he decides to run for office or applies for a job where he would be working with underage girls, would it be morally right and/or fair for someone to go back in the archives of TD and re-post the article of his arrest?
Ye without sin cast the first stone.
The person who brought up such ancient claptrap is the real loser here. I wish the councilman the best.
Informercial...
I agree with you...I do not know the subject of this site, nor have I ever met him...but it is obvious there are some who have attacked this gentleman because of their distain for another political official. It appears there is nothing on record that indicates this man has not been a good citizen since the now revealed YO history.
I make no reference to his quality of work, personality or other as of which I have no information. But I will stand with anyone to defend the right of any person to be given the opportunity to live their life without blemish from a youthful indicretion. Its the law folks...follow it...don't attempt to smear another that has received YO status...that violates the spiritual intend of the stature and the direct purpose for which it was created. If you are a respector of law, then don't flaut one just because you do not like it..
There are plenty of laws that we all can point at that we don't like...but if you respect one, you must repect them all. Without that view, you have nothing but chaos within a society.
I agree with you...I do not know the subject of this site, nor have I ever met him...but it is obvious there are some who have attacked this gentleman because of their distain for another political official. It appears there is nothing on record that indicates this man has not been a good citizen since the now revealed YO history.
I make no reference to his quality of work, personality or other as of which I have no information. But I will stand with anyone to defend the right of any person to be given the opportunity to live their life without blemish from a youthful indicretion. Its the law folks...follow it...don't attempt to smear another that has received YO status...that violates the spiritual intend of the stature and the direct purpose for which it was created. If you are a respector of law, then don't flaut one just because you do not like it..
There are plenty of laws that we all can point at that we don't like...but if you respect one, you must repect them all. Without that view, you have nothing but chaos within a society.
Don Terry has my vote-he saved my life. With more than 3 experiences around him he spotted me a mile away and knew what type of person I was and talked to me like I was a piece of crap. Because I was. He did not have to say the positive things he eventually said, but he was doing his job. Doing his job. Somehow it mattered, and I went from an almost dead junkie to living again, and doing right, like I was raised. I thank him and a couple of local judges for actually 'acting' like they cared and offering me ways of getting help. Thank you, Don Terry.
How does this have anything to do with the original subject? Mr Glover seems to have tried to make a good life for himself. Some would question some of his actions on city council but his personal life should not be threatened by this. Is he the only person who has been employed by several different Law Enforcement Offices?quote:Originally posted by xshaddaiax:
Don Terry has my vote-he saved my life. With more than 3 experiences around him he spotted me a mile away and knew what type of person I was and talked to me like I was a piece of crap. Because I was. He did not have to say the positive things he eventually said, but he was doing his job. Doing his job. Somehow it mattered, and I went from an almost dead junkie to living again, and doing right, like I was raised. I thank him and a couple of local judges for actually 'acting' like they cared and offering me ways of getting help. Thank you, Don Terry.