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In a case that pits individual rights against kids' safety, the California Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled on Thursday that it was appropriate for school officials to ban students at San Jose area high school from wearing American flag T-shirts on Cinco De Mayo. The May 5th holiday, popular in the United States but largely unrecognized in Mexico, commemorates the 1862 battle of Puebla and celebrates Mexican culture, heritage, and pride.

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The ruling stems from a controversial incident in 2010, when five students were told by administrators at Live Oak High School (which has a history of racial tension and gang violence) to either turn their American flag T-shirts inside out or go home. In a unanimous decision, the court cited two instances where students had been threatened with violence for wearing the flag. In 2009, some students of Mexican descent told an assistant principal they would "f**k up" other kids who were chanting "USA" around a flag they had hung from a tree on the school campus. The next year, students wearing the flag tees were warned by text messages and phone calls that gang members would come to the school and beat them up. Because only shirts with the American flag were targeted, school officials didn't ban shirts bearing images of other country's flags, including the Mexican flag. In response to the ban, a group of parents sued the district for violating of the teens' First Amendment rights. The school district has not responded to Yahoo Shine's request for comment.

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The court pointed out that under previous law, it is indeed legal to restrict high school student's free speech because of safety concerns. The Live Oak dress code also states that, "The school has the right to request that any student dressing inappropriately for school will change into other clothes, be sent home to change, and/or be subject to disciplinary action." Writing for the panel of three judges, 9th Circuit Judge M. Margaret McKeown stated, "Our role is not to second-guess the decision to have a Cinco de Mayo celebration or the precautions put in place to avoid violence, [the events] made it reasonable for school officials to proceed as though the threat of a potentially violent disturbance was real." However, some parents are still threatening to take the case all the way to the Supreme Court. "This is the United States of America," Kendall Jones, whose son was students banned from wearing a shirt depicting the American flag told the San Jose Mercury News. "The idea that it's offensive to wear patriotic clothing … regardless of what day it is, is unconscionable to me."

School clothing bans have become common across the country in recent years as administrators have cracked down on everything from leggings to NRA t-shirts to UGGS. Last year, a Michigan school told middle-schoolers who were wearing T-shirts memorialzing a friend who died from leukemia to change tops or cover up the friend's name printed on the shirt (administrators later apologized and reversed their decision). Not surprisingly, the American flag T-shirt case is particularly controversial and has strong supporters on both sides of the issue.

The court ruling appears to be on firm ground because of legal precedent, but blogging about the case, Eugene Volokh, a professor of law at UCLA and specialist in free speech, says it's about far more than T-shirts and that there are some serious issues at stake. "This is a classic 'heckler's veto' — thugs threatening to attack the speaker, and government officials suppressing the speech to prevent such violence," he wrote. "The school taught its students a simple lesson: If you dislike speech and want it suppressed, then you can get what you want by threatening violence against the speakers." However, after the decision, school district superintendent Steve Betando said he felt "relieved." From his point of view in the trenches of a challenged school, the court gave administrators the power to avert potential harm to their students.

 

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However, after the decision, school district superintendent Steve Betando said he felt "relieved."

 

He gave in to thugs and feels relieved? He should be fired, he doesn't have what it takes to be in that position.

 

 

From his point of view in the trenches of a challenged school, the court gave administrators the power to avert potential harm to their students.

 

Would the school be "challenged" if they got rid of the thugs that threaten other students? Apparently nothing was done to them over the threat. I can only imagine what would have happened if I had told my principal I was going to "f****" someone up. It would have been ugly and even uglier after they called my parents. We all know what would have happened if the roles were reversed. Suspension wouldn't have been enough, the school would have called in the cops. Then their parents would be suing the school system because they didn't keep their kids safe from racist hate and threats of violence. I'm with you hi-flyer, it sure doesn't look good for the country.

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So let me get this straight, American kids can't wear a shirt with an American flag to their school which is in America, because people from another country that are living in America doesn't like it. Let the freakin people that don't like it go back home. Now, i have friends that are mexican but they don't act like a bunch of freakin idiots.

shouldn't you people be concerned with what the LAW says.. why do these clothes even exist? wouldn't that be illegal all the way around?

 

 

The United States Flag Code establishes advisory rules for display and care of the flag of the United States. It is Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the United States Code (4 U.S.C. § 1

 

et seq). This is a U.S. federal law, but there is no penalty for failure to comply with it and the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that punitive enforcement would conflict with the First Amendment right to freedom of speech.[1]

This etiquette is as applied within U.S. jurisdiction. In other countries and places, local etiquette applies.

 

  • The words "flag, standard, colors, or ensign", as used herein, shall include any flag, standard, colors, ensign, or any picture or representation of either, or of any part or parts of either, made of any substance or represented on any substance, of any size evidently purporting to be either of said flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America or a picture or a representation of either, upon which shall be shown the colors, the stars and the stripes, in any number of either thereof, or of any part or parts of either, by which the average person seeing the same without deliberation may believe the same to represent the flag, colors, standard, or ensign of the United States of America.[2]
  • The flag should never be dipped to any person or thing, unless it is the ensign responding to a salute from a ship of a foreign nation. This is sometimes misreported as a tradition that comes from the 1908 Summer Olympics in London, where countries were asked to dip their flag to King Edward VII; American team flag bearer Ralph Rose did not follow this protocol, and teammate Martin Sheridan is often, though apocryphally, quoted as proclaiming that "this flag dips before no earthly king."[3] This tradition was codified as early as the 1911 U.S. Army drill regulations.[4]
  • The flag should never be displayed with the union (the starred blue union in the Canton) down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.[5]
  • The flag should not be used as "wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery", or for covering a speaker's desk, draping a platform, or for any decoration in general (exception for coffins). Bunting of blue, white and red stripes is available for these purposes. The blue stripe of the bunting should be on the top.[6]
  • The flag should never be drawn back or bunched up in any way.
  • The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.[7]
  • The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose. It should not be embroidered, printed, or otherwise impressed on such articles as cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins, boxes, or anything intended to be discarded after temporary use. Advertising signs should not be attached to the staff or halyard.
  • The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.[8]
  • The flag should not be used as part of a costume or athletic uniform, except that a flag patch may be used on the uniform of military personnel, firefighters, police officers, and members of patriotic organizations.
  • Flag lapel pins may also be worn (they are considered replicas) and are worn near the heart.
  • The flag should never have any mark, insignia, letter, word, number, figure, or drawing of any kind placed on it or attached to it.
  • The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.
  • The flag should never be stepped on.
  • In a parade, the flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or back of a vehicle, railroad train, or boat. When the flag is displayed on a motorcar, the staff shall be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right fender.[9]
  • When the flag is lowered, no part of it should touch the ground or any other object; it should be received by waiting hands and arms. To store the flag it should be folded neatly and ceremoniously.
  • The flag should be cleaned and mended when necessary.
  • If the flag is being used at a public or private estate, it should not be hung (unless at half staff or when an all-weather flag is displayed)[10] during rain or violent weather.
  • When a flag is so tattered that it no longer fits to serve as a symbol of the United States, it should be destroyed in a dignified manner, preferably by burning. The Veterans of Foreign Wars, American Legion, Boy Scouts of America, Girl Scouts of the USA,[11][12] National Sojourners, and other organizations regularly conduct dignified flag-burning ceremonies, often on Flag Day, June 14.
  • The flag should never touch anything beneath it. Contrary to an urban legend, the flag code does not state that a flag that touches the ground should be burned. Instead, it is considered disrespectful to the flag and the flag in question should be moved in such a manner so it is not touching the ground.[11]
  • The flag should always be permitted to fall freely. (An exception was made during the Apollo moon landings when the flag hung from an extensible horizontal bar, allowing full display even in the absence of an atmosphere.)[13]
Originally Posted by seeweed:

Well, I don't like that rule, but in fact the Flag Code prohibits wearing the flag as clothing in order to show respect.  I know it is not enforced, and for the most part most people really don't care but it's there, non the less.

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Thanks, weed, for pointing that out.  It is ironic that there are  many who consider themselves patriots and who believe that they respect the flag, but who violate the flag code by wearing apparel (often tacky)  with the flag or with flag motifs.

Sorry, it's not against the law.

 

But it is important to remember that the Flag Code is only intended as a guideline to be followed on a voluntary basis. The Code was originally created to ensure proper respect of our flag.

While the Flag Code may not be enforceable by law, many citizens think wearing the stars and stripes is offensive.

 

http://blog.cvsflags.com/flag-...erican-flag-clothing

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