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There's always talk about prayer. Is prayer answered, and if so are all of

them answered? There's the matter of faith that will help you cope when

waiting for an answer. I know God does hear our prayers because He

promised when we come to him in Jesus name.

 

Dan 9: 23

From the beginning of thy prayers the word came forth: and I am come to shew it to thee, because thou art a man of desires: therefore do thou mark the word, and understand the vision.

 

True story.........A six year old boy went to church every morning for eight

days before Christmas asking Jesus for a bicycle. Christmas morning and

there wasn't a bike to be found. When he went to church that morning he

had a message for Jesus, he said I told your Mother on you. Two days later

he got his new bicycle. I like the way this played out because the child was

comfortable in his interactions with his family in Heaven. I think Jesus would

like it for the same reasons and the attention shown him, his Mother and

Heaven itself. The little guy will never forget it and some day may realize

the reason for delay could have saved his life or another reason that was

best for the sake of the two wheeler. Or maybe Heaven just wanted to hear

from him again.

 

Prayers are always heard, maybe not as timely as we want, maybe not even

in this life. Maybe given to you more than you asked for, but they are always

acknowledged.

 

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Vic, my Friend,

 

You tell us, "Prayers are always heard, maybe not as timely as we want, maybe not even

in this life."

 

Prayer is the believer's direct connection to God, a 24/7/365 connection which will never be dropped.  You might compare prayer as "calling home to our Father" -- and He always answers His calls.

 

But, you confuse me when you say that prayers could be answered "maybe not even

in this life."

 

When the believer dies -- we go straight home to be with our Lord.  So, why would we need to send a prayer/call to Him -- when we are standing in His presence?

 

The time to be "calling the Father" in prayer is now -- in this life.  For, if we do not connect with Him in this life -- there is no way He will take our calls after we leave this life.   A person, through his/her God-given gift of "free will" -- MUST choose to follow Christ or to deny Christ IN THIS LIFE.

 

Once you breathe that last breath in this body -- your eternal fate is sealed: believe or deny, heaven or hell.

 

So, my Friend, you really should start making direct calls to Him now.  Forget praying to the priest or to Mary -- and get things settled directly with Him while you are still living in this mortal body.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

 

If You Died Today

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Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Vic,

 

So, my Friend, you really should start making direct calls to Him now.  Forget praying to the priest or to Mary -- and get things settled directly with Him while you are still living in this mortal body.

 

I know what I'm doing, I have the backing of Jesus for the last two thousand

years, you have a dream soon to become a nightmare of your fantasy cult

when you achieve room temperature. You have a deadly habit of changing

and adding to other peoples posts so as to change the meaning of their

original thoughts. You do this because you can't refute what is said without

falsifying the evidence. You have repeatedly sinned against most people in

this forum daily.  “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor"

is still a grave wrong even if you are but a childish adult.

 

You have to stop blaming God for what he's done in the past that

doesn't fit your agenda today.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day, help this pathetic lying insecure

 heretic.

 

 

Originally Posted by INVICTUS:
You have a deadly habit of changing and adding to other peoples posts so as to change the meaning of their original thoughts. You do this because you can't refute what is said without falsifying the evidence. You have repeatedly sinned against most people in this forum daily.  “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor" is still a grave wrong even if you are but a childish adult.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day, help this pathetic lying insecure heretic.

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Vic, you shouldn't waste your time or your words on Bill. He is a pitiful old man with mental issues & a serious case of NPD. Except for 2-3 people on this forum, the majority knows what he is all about.

Vic, my Friend,

 

Please show us where - in the Bible - we are told to pray AFTER we die.  Your church may tell you that -- but, the Bible does not.

 

Hebrews 9:27,  "And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment." 

This Scripture verse tells us we die once -- and then comes judgment:  heaven or hell.  Nothing in there about praying once we pass through the door of mortal death.

 

That is MY support, from the Bible.

 

What is YOUR support for believing a person can pray AFTER death?

 

Yes, we know -- since you have nothing Biblical to base your claim upon -- you will just start with catty comments and name calling.  In which catechism class did you learn that?

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

 

Hebrews 9-27 - Four Seasons

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Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
Originally Posted by Dove of Peace:

How in his vacuous skull did he ever read that into Vic's posting????  Surely they have professionals in California to deal with altzheimers?

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The same way he reads what he does into any of our postings. It's not Alzheimer's, the man is an idiot! 

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That and the fact that billiee will never miss a chance to lie and misled all

who will see his filth even at the expense of those of Heaven themselves.

Evil is as evil does.  

 

 

Hi all,

 

Now that we have heard from the "cheap seats" - i.e., "atheists' row" -- let's take a look at what was really written:

 

Vic wrote: 

 

"Prayers are always heard, maybe not as timely as we want, maybe not even in this life."

 

And, I replied:

 

Prayer is the believer's direct connection to God, a 24/7/365 connection which will never be dropped.  You might compare prayer as "calling home to our Father" -- and He always answers His calls.

 

But, you confuse me when you say that prayers could be answered "maybe not even in this life."

 

When the believer dies -- we go straight home to be with our Lord.  So, why would we need to send a prayer/call to Him -- when we are standing in His presence?

 

The time to be "calling the Father" in prayer is now -- in this life.  For, if we do not connect with Him in this life -- there is no way He will take our calls after we leave this life.   A person, through his/her God-given gift of "free will" -- MUST choose to follow Christ or to deny Christ IN THIS LIFE.

 

Once you breathe that last breath in this body -- your eternal fate is sealed: believe or deny, heaven or hell.

 

So, my Friend, you really should start making direct calls to Him now.  Forget praying to the priest or to Mary -- and get things settled directly with Him while you are still living in this mortal body.

 

Will someone who does not have an anti-Christian, anti-God, anti-Bible chip on his/her shoulder please tell me where I misconstrued or falsely read Vic's intention.   Appreciate your help.

 

Bless their misguided little hearts!

 

Bill

Friends_Donkey_Bear_TALK

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billiee, he say...........

But, you confuse me when you say that prayers could be answered

"maybe not even in this life."

 

You have a right to be confused billiee,

for you know not what you say

 

billiee, he say again something

 

Will someone who does not have an anti-Christian, anti-God, anti-Bible chip on his/her shoulder please tell me where I misconstrued or falsely read Vic's intention.   Appreciate your help.

  

Bless their misguided little hearts!

  

If I had as low of an opinion of the people on this forum as does billiee,

I should really wonder why I was wasting my time with you misguided

misfits. If you dislike so many here, then you must gain some type of

cruel and sadistic pleasure by tormenting the initiative from those that

just want to be left alone and discuss thoughts with like minded peers.

 

You aren't capable of doing anything near that.

 

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Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Will someone who does not have an anti-Christian, anti-God, anti-Bible chip on his/her shoulder please tell me where I misconstrued or falsely read Vic's intention.   Appreciate your help.

 

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Let me be as clear and succinct as my antiquated itty bitty mind will allow...

 

In each of my daily conversations with Jesus, I pray that my grandchildren will be successful in life, excell in college, marry well, and lead good Christian lives...

 

While some of that prayer may be fulfilled during the few years remaining in my life here on Earth, much will be answered long after my death...

 

Clear enough?

 

No need to respond...

 

 

Dove, my Friend,

 

BUT, WHEN did you send your prayers to God?   Obviously you did it while you were still alive -- for after that, you could not.

 

If you will notice, Vic did not say that his long ago prayers would be ANSWERED after his death:

 

"Prayers are always heard, maybe not as timely as we want, maybe not even in this life."

 

Vic clearly wrote that his prayers would be HEARD after his death.   Is God hard of hearing -- that He will not hear our prayers until His hearing aid is fixed?

 

No, my Friend, Vic clearly stated that his prayers to God would be heard, as in "I am speaking, you are hearing" -- after his death.  And, that is NOT BIBLICAL -- for him or for you.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Dove, my Friend,

 

BUT, WHEN did you send your prayers to God?   Obviously you did it while you were still alive -- for after that, you could not.

 

If you will notice, Vic did not say that his long ago prayers would be ANSWERED after his death:

 

"Prayers are always heard, maybe not as timely as we want, maybe not even in this life."

 

Vic clearly wrote that his prayers would be HEARD after his death.   Is God hard of hearing -- that He will not hear our prayers until His hearing aid is fixed?

 

No, my Friend, Vic clearly stated that his prayers to God would be heard, as in "I am speaking, you are hearing" -- after his death.  And, that is NOT BIBLICAL -- for him or for you.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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First, as I have told you a multitude if times, I am NOT your friend!!! 

Can you understand that even in your demented state?????

Second, as is your wont, you are distorting what Vic stated...

Third, I should have known better than try to extend the courtesy of a rational response to the village troll!!!!

P-L-O-N-K !!!!!!!

 

 

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billieee said

 

Will someone who does not have an anti-Christian, anti-God, anti-Bible chip on his/her shoulder please tell me where I misconstrued or falsely read Vic's intention.   Appreciate your help.

  

Bless their misguided little hearts!

  

If I had as low of an opinion of the people on this forum as does billiee,

I should really wonder why I was wasting my time with you misguided

misfits. If you dislike so many here, then you must gain some type of

cruel and sadistic pleasure by tormenting the initiative from those that

just want to be left alone and discuss thoughts with like minded peers.

 

You aren't capable of doing anything near that.

Originally Posted by INVICTUS:

If I had as low of an opinion of the people on this forum as does billiee, I should really wonder why I was wasting my time with you misguided misfits. If you dislike so many here, then you must gain some type of cruel and sadistic pleasure by tormenting the initiative from those that just want to be left alone and discuss thoughts with like minded peers.

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Bill is doing the work of his Master...Satan.

quote:  Originally Posted by INVICTUS:

quote: Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

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Will someone who does not have an anti-Christian, anti-God, anti-Bible chip on his/her shoulder please tell me where I misconstrued or falsely read Vic's intention.   Appreciate your help.

 

Bless their misguided little hearts!

 

If I had as low of an opinion of the people on this forum as does billiee, I should really wonder why I was wasting my time with you misguided misfits.  If you dislike so many here, then you must gain some type of cruel and sadistic pleasure by tormenting the initiative from those that just want to be left alone and discuss thoughts with like minded peers.   You aren't capable of doing anything near that.

Vic, my Friend,

 

Actually, there aren't that many of you in the Malcontent Cabal.  There's you and another Roman Catholic wannabe, a couple of legalistic theology proponents, an agnostic, a few atheists, and a small handful of just vanilla-flavored non-believers.   So, I would say that I can count the full Malcontent Cabal on my fingers.

 

On the other hand, there are literally hundreds or thousands of good Shoals folks who come on the TimesDaily Forums just to read.   So, you and your Malcontent Cabal gang are really just a small drop in the bucket, actually more of a drip into the bucket -- compared to the readership of this forum.

 

In writing on the forum, I have to view it like walking through the barnyard -- even when careful, I will occasionally step in it.   When I do (encounter one of you), I just wipe my shoes and keep walking and writing for the vast majority of good Shoals folks who do not meet in the dark hidden room with your Malcontent Cabal gang.

 

Bless your little Malcontent hearts!

 

Bill

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Crash, my Friend,

 

As usual, when you atheists have nothing truthful to say -- you will make up something just to hear your mouth moving. 

 

What I wrote is:

 

On the other hand, there are literally hundreds or thousands of good Shoals folks who come on the TimesDaily Forums just to read.   So, you and your Malcontent Cabal gang are really just a small drop in the bucket, actually more of a drip into the bucket -- compared to the readership of this forum.

 

In writing on the forum, I have to view it like walking through the barnyard -- even when careful, I will occasionally step in it.   When I do (encounter one of you), I just wipe my shoes and keep walking and writing for the vast majority of good Shoals folks who do not meet in the dark hidden room with your Malcontent Cabal gang.

 

It is so sad that the atheists and other non-believers HAVE to make up things.  But, I suppose that being an atheist -- you have no concept of real truth.  So, you spread non-truths.  It is so sad to see you and your Malcontent Cabal friends living in such darkness.

 

Bless your dark little hearts!

 

Bill

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Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

bahahahahaha! he writes for the 'thousands' who read his articles.. come on people. it's not just you 'vanilla flavored christian and non-christians'.. he writes for his people! bahahahahaha!

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The old fool says he comes here for those that just read. He really thinks they don't see what a judgmental ole fool he is that's doing the work of his Master. That's why he makes up all those others ID's. He wants us to think there's people on here that believe him. I know of two on this forum that believe him but they've been here for a long time & they believe OSAS too.

Hi all,

 

My dear Friend, Chick, is funny!   She is like the person who absolutely refuses to see the movie or read the book -- but, she can rant on for hours about how bad it is and how many mistakes are in it.

 

Since she refuses to see the movie, or read the book, or read my posts -- how does she know they are bad?   Because her mind is so full of darkness -- she believes that darkness spreads to all who do not agree with her.

 

It is so sad to see a semi-intelligent person who hides her head so deeply in the sands of darkness -- yet, even with her head buried so deeply -- she still rants, raves, fumes, and fusses.  

 

Truly sad to see a person so wrapped in darkness -- that she can surround herself with nothing else.

 

Chick, my Friend, I sincerely pray that one day someone will be able to penetrate your shield of darkness -- and show you the Light of Jesus Christ.  With all my heart, I would love to fellowship with you in heaven one day.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

 

1 John 4-10 - 1

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Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Crash, my Friend,

 

As usual, when you atheists have nothing truthful to say -- you will make up something just to hear your mouth moving. 

 

What I wrote is:

 

On the other hand, there are literally hundreds or thousands of good Shoals folks who come on the TimesDaily Forums just to read.   So, you and your Malcontent Cabal gang are really just a small drop in the bucket, actually more of a drip into the bucket -- compared to the readership of this forum.

 

In writing on the forum, I have to view it like walking through the barnyard -- even when careful, I will occasionally step in it.   When I do (encounter one of you), I just wipe my shoes and keep walking and writing for the vast majority of good Shoals folks who do not meet in the dark hidden room with your Malcontent Cabal gang.

 

It is so sad that the atheists and other non-believers HAVE to make up things.  But, I suppose that being an atheist -- you have no concept of real truth.  So, you spread non-truths.  It is so sad to see you and your Malcontent Cabal friends living in such darkness.

 

Bless your dark little hearts!

 

Bill

 

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you wrote it.. i don't blame you, i'd try to crayfish out of it , if i'd have said it, too. bahahahaha... the thing that is truly sad is you truly believe your own crazy logic.. i may tease the republicans about 'living in bizarro world', but you're about two steps away from being the next 'david koresh' or 'jim jones'.

Crash, my Friend,

 

While I realize that atheism can seriously dull and darken one's mind and thoughts, I was sure that you still have the ability to read.   Let's try this one more time.  This is what I wrote and you have highlighted:

 

On the other hand, there are literally hundreds or thousands of good Shoals folks who come on the TimesDaily Forums just to read.   So, you and your Malcontent Cabal gang are really just a small drop in the bucket, actually more of a drip into the bucket -- compared to the readership of this forum.

 

In writing on the forum, I have to view it like walking through the barnyard -- even when careful, I will occasionally step in it.   When I do (encounter one of you), I just wipe my shoes and keep walking and writing for the vast majority of good Shoals folks who do not meet in the dark hidden room with your Malcontent Cabal gang.

 

Where do YOU read that I have written that thousands come here to read MY WRITINGS?  I wrote, as you have highlighted: 

 

On the other hand, there are literally hundreds or thousands of good Shoals folks who come on the TimesDaily Forums just to read.

 

Where is that not true?  Do YOU doubt that the TimesDaily Forums have thousands of folks who come here daily to read?  The last time I checked there were over 12,000 registered members.  And, you know that if there are that many registered members -- there must me, at least, twice that many who come here just to read.

 

I will admit that I have written before that those readers are my target audience; but I have NEVER written that they come here to read my posts.

 

Look at the example I gave you in my discussion about Return On Investment.  That afternoon, there were 819 VISITORS and only 8 Members logged in.   Would that not support that many more come just to read -- than to post.  For those 819 are not registered members.

 

So, once again, let me ask you:  WHY DO YOU MAKE UP THINGS which are not true?

 

Bless your little atheist heart!

 

Bill

 

Better Friends - Daffy Duck

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Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

 

 

I will admit that I have written before that those readers are my target audience; but I have NEVER written that they come here to read my posts.

 

The reason you're here is for your ego only. You can't even be honest with

yourself. You're about the funniest "little moron joke" I've ever witnessed...

 

Look at the example I gave you in my discussion about Return On Investment.  That afternoon, there were 819 VISITORS and only 8 Members logged in.   Would that not support that many more come just to read -- than to post.  For those 819 are not registered members.

 

Crash, how long has it been since anyone's been allowed in.? What percent

never read religion much less billiee banjo.? The members or guests or just

not that into you billiee...

 

So, once again, let me ask you:  WHY DO YOU MAKE UP THINGS which are not true?

 

Funny, the most lethal liar I've ever come across called someone a liar...

 

forget your little atheist lying heart!

 

 

 

in order for bill's statement to be true, every single person who visits the forums would have to come to ready his posts... now, who believes that? besides bill?  i can personally account for probably 100 'registered' names on these forums... me personally!!! i know SEVERAL others who can make the same claim... at one time, getting banned from these forums was as simple as making a comment in a thread the mods didn't like. as i said.. viewing bill's 'logic' makes me wonder just how long it'll be before he starts his own 'church' packed full of his Philippine followers.

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
Originally Posted by House of David:
It's true that some prayers are answered after death.
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Just one more thing that makes no sense to me. Why answer a prayer after you're dead? It's not gonna do any good then. 
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As I said above, I'll repeat here:

In each of my daily conversations with Jesus, I pray that my grandchildren will be successful in life, excell in college, marry well, and lead good Christian lives...

 

While some of that prayer may be fulfilled during the few years remaining in my life here on Earth, much will be answered long after my death...

 

My prayer is not for myself but for my loved ones... It matters not my state - dead or yet living - when the prayers are answered...

 

I'm fairly sure, Vic was referring to the answers, not the prayers themselves...

 

 

 

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