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While the topic will have many connotations and in fact bring up many moral dilemmas the fact is that some Scientist created Synthetic Life.

My point is simply that it was created, it didn't develop and evolve on it's own it was created by someone. Proof that life can be created.

Our creator is infinitely more intelligent and knowledgeable than man, our creator creates life strictly from the thoughts He has. Interesting though that science, which is so big and bent on evolution has created life yet finds it so difficult to believe that life our existence, can be created by an intelligent being, that's such a foreign thought for them.

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Originally posted by StarryNight:
So why get so bent out of shape over it? Believe what you want to believe and let others believe what they want. No one knows the truth and ever will.

Hi Starry,

Why does it bother you that GB has posted his beliefs in a Creator? He is not forcing that upon you; only stating his belief.

Now, if his doing so has caused you to feel a wee bit convicted, don't blame GB -- blame the Holy Spirit. He is the one making you feel uncomfortable when someone shares Christian beliefs.

You say, "No one knows the truth and ever will."

Not true, my Friend. We know from the Written Word of God, the Bible. And, to say that no one will ever know the truth of Jesus Christ, God, and the Creation -- is saying that, after this life, there is nothing but oblivion.

It is sad if you believe that this short, often unhappy life is all that God intended for us -- for that would be cruel -- and God is not a cruel God.

Everyone will live eternally. Jesus assured that when He resurrected from the grave. The only question is: Where will YOU live that eternity? There are only TWO choices -- heaven and hell.

The good new is -- YOU get to choose which eternal home you want. The bad news is -- YOU MUST choose before you leave this life.

Once you leave this life, your eternal destiny is set in concrete; no second chances. So, choose wisely, my Friend.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by Sofa King:
GB,

man has created life. We are also on the verge of creating mini universes using the large Hadron collider. Up until now these were capabilities only known to God.

If we can do everything that God does. Does his make man a God?


Kinda like saying the carpenter created the wood that he used to build the house. Nope, he just used the wood that was already there.
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Kinda like saying the carpenter created the wood that he used to build the house. Nope, he just used the wood that was already there.


There is ample scientific evidence that shows that God used the raw materials that were availble to Him (in the form of quantum energy) to construct this universe.

So I repeat my question: is Man a god for creating the same things that God created?
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Kinda like saying the carpenter created the wood that he used to build the house. Nope, he just used the wood that was already there.


There is ample scientific evidence that shows that God used the raw materials that were availble to Him (in the form of quantum energy) to construct this universe.

So I repeat my question: is Man a god for creating the same things that God created?


God created the raw materials to begin with.
In reply the reason I started this thread was because so many are opposed to even the idea of Intelligent Design that they refuse to admit it could have existed as a way we or life got here although here we have a mere hu(man) creating synthetic life. hu(man)s are still learning and have yet to discover so much yet simple man can develop a synthetic life. So if man can create synthetic life that proves that life can be developed by an intelligent process. We have yet to witness life evolve from nothing on it's on. Intelligent Design as well as Creationism should be allowed to be taught alongside of and with Evolution as a process by which we got here but it isn't as Evolutionist control that and suppress all other theories of creation.

No I'm not saying man is God. I view God as God ( the great I AM) the Creator of everything including US humans. I believe, as the Bible says, that God is Spirit

Genesis 1:1-2 (ASV)
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

John 4:23-24 (CEV)
23 But a time is coming, and it is already here! Even now the true worshipers are being led by the Spirit to worship the Father according to the truth. These are the ones the Father is seeking to worship him.
24 God is Spirit, and those who worship God must be led by the Spirit to worship him according to the truth.

I believe God is beyond the comprehension of Man. Man cannot even truly comprehend the concept of eternity (eternity past or eternity future). God is taken on FAITH alone. I believe God is and was the creator and I believe He brought about creation by His Thought alone or surely by a process by which we, humans, can and will never understand.

I do though believe that man can experience God's presence and interact with God .. HE/She does so through Jesus Christ the way that God chose to relate to man, His Son, His chosen Messiah, Jesus Christ is the only way by which man can experience God and through Christ we experience God's Forgiveness and Justification. It's a process of being "born again" .. not born in a womb but your inner spirit reborn

John 3:4-8 (CEV)
4 Nicodemus asked, "How can a grown man ever be born a second time?" 5 Jesus answered: I tell you for certain that before you can get into God's kingdom, you must be born not only by water, but by the Spirit. 6 Humans give life to their children. Yet only God's Spirit can change you into a child of God. 7 Don't be surprised when I say that you must be born from above. 8 Only God's Spirit gives new life. The Spirit is like the wind that blows wherever it wants to. You can hear the wind, but you don't know where it comes from or where it is going.

John 3:16-18 (CEV) 16 God loved the people of this world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who has faith in him will have eternal life and never really die. 17 God did not send his Son into the world to condemn its people. He sent him to save them! 18 No one who has faith in God's Son will be condemned. But everyone who doesn't have faith in him has already been condemned for not having faith in God's only Son.
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Originally posted by Sofa King:
GB,

man has created life. We are also on the verge of creating mini universes using the large Hadron collider. Up until now these were capabilities only known to God.

If we can do everything that God does. Does his make man a God?



Maybe I didn't answer your statement sufficient enough.

What this says to me, the fact that we are able to do just this infinitesimal bit of creation is how GREAT GOD truly is to have done what all we see. Billions and Billions of Galaxies which we have yet to see and end of. The Magnificence of complex life and creatures, the Beauty of Nature and yet the power and fury of Nature. Man has made such small infinitesimal steps in hopes of understanding that which we don't understand. What is says to me is how Great God is, that is what it says to me. Only God is in control. It scares me what man may accidentally create or unleash upon us for God is God and man is man .. we are so flawed and imperfect that it should be scary to think about what could happen when man assumes to be god and plays in areas that we were never meant to explore or play in.

Matthew 24:15-22 (CEV) 15 Someday you will see that "Horrible Thing" in the holy place, just as the prophet Daniel said. Everyone who reads this must try to understand! 16 If you are living in Judea at that time, run to the mountains. 17 If you are on the roof of your house, don't go inside to get anything. 18 If you are out in the field, don't go back for your coat. 19 It will be a terrible time for women who are expecting babies or nursing young children. 20 And pray that you won't have to escape in winter or on a Sabbath. 21 This will be the worst time of suffering since the beginning of the world, and nothing this terrible will ever happen again. 22 If God doesn't make the time shorter, no one will be left alive. But because of God's chosen ones, he will make the time shorter.

In the last days, whenever that will be, there will be unprecedented horrors and events inflicted upon mankind so that 1/3rd of mankind will be killed.

I am not saying that we (man) are creating the seeds of our own destruction but no one knows what we can accidentally release upon ourselves. No one knows what would happen if we actually developed a virus or disease that had life to it, that could mutate or change into something we could not control.
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GB, man has created life. We are also on the verge of creating mini universes using the large Hadron collider. Up until now these were capabilities only known to God.

If we can do everything that God does. Does his make man a God?

Kinda like saying the carpenter created the wood that he used to build the house. Nope, he just used the wood that was already there.

RIGHT ON, MR. HOOB! - AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

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God created the raw materials to begin with.

Says who and where? You can't just pull knowledge from your butt and claim God did it - not without looking like a ignorant fundamentalist fool.

FROM THE BIBLE, OH CRUDE ONE! - THE WRITTEN WORD OF GOD!

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Intelligent Design as well as Creationism should be allowed to be taught alongside of and with Evolution as a process by which we got here (then a bunch of bible verses)


So GB, I'm sure you will not mind if the Hindu version and of creation (involving Vishnu being awakened by a serpent) is taught, too? Can't neglect the American Indian version (a frog puked the earth into existence).

Every religion out there has a Creation story to tell. Our laws require that our government treat each of them equally. So, according to you, we are going to have to teach ALL of them.

Maybe we will have time to teach them actual science eventually.

THINK about it GB. You aren't stupid. Try to think past your nose on this issue. Can't you see that if you allow one religion to be taught, you have to allow others, too? Can't you see that this would destroy religion, not advance it? Can't you see how it will make kid stupid, not smarter?

Can't you? ...... Nah, probably not.
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Originally posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
God created the raw materials to begin with.

Says who and where? You can't just pull knowledge from your butt and claim God did it - not without looking like a ignorant fundamentalist fool.

FROM THE BIBLE, OH CRUDE ONE! - THE WRITTEN WORD OF GOD!


And where, exactly, does it say the God created the raw materials from which the universe was made?
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Originally posted by gbrk:
Intelligent Design as well as Creationism should be allowed to be taught alongside of and with Evolution as a process by which we got here (then a bunch of bible verses)

So GB, I'm sure you will not mind if the Hindu version and of creation (involving Vishnu being awakened by a serpent) is taught, too? Can't neglect the American Indian version (a frog puked the earth into existence).

Every religion out there has a Creation story to tell. Our laws require that our government treat each of them equally. So, according to you, we are going to have to teach ALL of them.

Maybe we will have time to teach them actual science eventually.

THINK about it GB. You aren't stupid. Try to think past your nose on this issue. Can't you see that if you allow one religion to be taught, you have to allow others, too? Can't you see that this would destroy religion, not advance it? Can't you see how it will make kid stupid, not smarter?

Can't you? ...... Nah, probably not.

FISHy, my Friend,

When are you going to quite trying to sell your Darwinian Evolution "Religion of Nothing" in Forumland? No one is buying it!

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" (Genesis 1:1) which included ALL the sciences and all the laws governing the sciences. Science is a subset of Creation.

You cannot make a god of the creation -- for the God of the Creation does not allow it.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
God created the raw materials to begin with.

Says who and where? You can't just pull knowledge from your butt and claim God did it - not without looking like a ignorant fundamentalist fool.

FROM THE BIBLE, OH CRUDE ONE! - THE WRITTEN WORD OF GOD!

And where, exactly, does it say the God created the raw materials from which the universe was made?

WHY DON'T YOU ASK HIM?

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WHY DON'T YOU ASK HIM?


Well, YOU are the one who proudly proclaims to know the answers and will post pages upon pages of works to justify your position . . . . . Until you are asked a difficult question then you either ignore the question of come up with some idiotic comment such as this.

I do believe this is an act of bearing false witness, Bill.

I believe, on faith, that God has revealed his methods to us via the use of our God given brains and the methods of science.
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WHY DON'T YOU ASK HIM?

Well, YOU are the one who proudly proclaims to know the answers and will post pages upon pages of works to justify your position . . . . . Until you are asked a difficult question then you either ignore the question of come up with some idiotic comment such as this.

I do believe this is an act of bearing false witness, Bill.

I believe, on faith, that God has revealed his methods to us via the use of our God given brains and the methods of science.

THEN, SOFA - I AM HAPPY FOR YOU.

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Originally posted by gbrk:
Intelligent Design as well as Creationism should be allowed to be taught alongside of and with Evolution as a process by which we got here (then a bunch of bible verses)


So GB, I'm sure you will not mind if the Hindu version and of creation (involving Vishnu being awakened by a serpent) is taught, too? Can't neglect the American Indian version (a frog puked the earth into existence).

Every religion out there has a Creation story to tell. Our laws require that our government treat each of them equally. So, according to you, we are going to have to teach ALL of them.

Maybe we will have time to teach them actual science eventually.

THINK about it GB. You aren't stupid. Try to think past your nose on this issue. Can't you see that if you allow one religion to be taught, you have to allow others, too? Can't you see that this would destroy religion, not advance it? Can't you see how it will make kid stupid, not smarter?

Can't you? ...... Nah, probably not.



I do realize what you are trying to say, and personally I don't mind if the other methods are taught alongside each prevailing theory as I believe people ought to be given exposure to many theories and let the people decide based upon their own intelligence but what we have today is more an exclusion of theories or overly biased teaching of theories attempting to control the "playing field" so to say based upon the personal beliefs of the instructors or those in control to make such decisions. For years, many more than not, evolution was kept out for just the same reasons only on the other foot, so to say, and evolutionist felt that was so unfair and that every theory deserved it's day in court so to say. Today, now that evolution seems to enjoy the line share of scientist buying into it then they want to control what is put forth or who is in what positions.

Concerning the other teachings for creation I have full confidence that Hindus still, today, teach their young their method of creation and native Indians still teach their theories as passed down through the years.

Why not give students the ability to make up their own minds given the positives and negatives of each (theory that is).

My disbelief in Creationism has valid foundations as does my faith and belief in God, there are tangible reasons I believe as I do. I studied evolution, I've seen the presentations and frankly I made up my own mind, based on evidence, or lack of it, that Evolution couldn't possibly be the way we got here. Other, Christians, believe in evolution and believe in God also ... they believe that's the way God created us ... the process of evolution. I don't I have presented some of the reasons I believe evolution is full of holes and couldn't be the way we got here but each has their own selves to convince and I respect each others rights to believe as they wish.
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I do realize what you are trying to say, and personally I don't mind if the other methods are taught alongside each prevailing theory as I believe people ought to be given exposure to many theories and let the people decide based upon their own intelligence



So, you propose we teach ALL religions theories of how we came to be in in a SCIENCE CLASS?

When the teachers finished this, how much time do you think they will have for "actual" science? Answer: None. The teaching of all religions theories of origins will take far longer than a semester. Probably more than a full year.

There are a lot of religions, GB. So perhaps you want to biol it down to just a few? You' are OK with the Satanist version being taught, I presume?

Or will it be just the religion of your choosing?
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Why not give students the ability to make up their own minds given the positives and negatives of each (theory that is).


I presume you are talking about Hollow Earth theory here? Or is it Flat Earth theory?

I presume you want students to learn how the EARTH is the center of the solar system (as stated in the bible, of course) and is surrounded by spheres with holes poked in the firmament in order to let through the light from heaven?

Oh, there's also the biblical "theory" hat diseases are caused by demons. Do we teach that, too?

These are ALL valid religions theories, GB. Do you propose we teach all these or just the ones you agree with?
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While the topic will have many connotations and in fact bring up many moral dilemmas the fact is that some Scientist created Synthetic Life.

My point is simply that it was created, it didn't develop and evolve on it's own it was created by someone. Proof that life can be created.

Our creator is infinitely more intelligent and knowledgeable than man, our creator creates life strictly from the thoughts He has. Interesting though that science, which is so big and bent on evolution has created life yet finds it so difficult to believe that life our existence, can be created by an intelligent being, that's such a foreign thought for them.


I don't necessarily dis-believe in "Intelligent Being" theory. I think there is some evidence to suggest that advanced life forms came to Earth and gave life here a boost so to speak.

I agree with Sofa on how long and complicated it would be to teach ALL creation/religious theories in Science class. As far as I know from my own children's public school books (last one graduated in 2009) they simply present the facts as we know to this point. There is no chapter in the Science book named "There is no God"!

Why does religion need to be taught in Public School? I believe science should be presented and taught to children in school and religion taught at home. Every American has the right to teach their children what ever religion they so please as long as it doesn't endanger the childrens lives. Or break laws. Which reminds me...do we teach Rastafarian religion too? Then they can go to Health class and learn how smoking marijuana is bad for your health. I think that might get a bit confusing and convoluted. Every American Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist and even Satanist have the right to practice and teach their religion. What they don't have is the right to force their religious views and beliefs on other Americans. If you believe strongly enough in your religion that you think it is the one true way then you should be able to teach it to your children yourself.

Let Science be science and religion be taught to children by their own people.
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Why not give students the ability to make up their own minds given the positives and negatives of each (theory that is).


I presume you are talking about Hollow Earth theory here? Or is it Flat Earth theory?

I presume you want students to learn how the EARTH is the center of the solar system (as stated in the bible, of course) and is surrounded by spheres with holes poked in the firmament in order to let through the light from heaven?

Oh, there's also the biblical "theory" hat diseases are caused by demons. Do we teach that, too?

These are ALL valid religions theories, GB. Do you propose we teach all these or just the ones you agree with?

AND THIS FROM A PERSON WHO TELLS US HE/SHE IS A CHRISTIAN! -- HELLO!

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While the topic will have many connotations and in fact bring up many moral dilemmas the fact is that some Scientist created Synthetic Life.

My point is simply that it was created, it didn't develop and evolve on it's own it was created by someone. Proof that life can be created.

Our creator is infinitely more intelligent and knowledgeable than man, our creator creates life strictly from the thoughts He has. Interesting though that science, which is so big and bent on evolution has created life yet finds it so difficult to believe that life our existence, can be created by an intelligent being, that's such a foreign thought for them.


I don't necessarily dis-believe in "Intelligent Being" theory. I think there is some evidence to suggest that advanced life forms came to Earth and gave life here a boost so to speak.

I agree with Sofa on how long and complicated it would be to teach ALL creation/religious theories in Science class. As far as I know from my own children's public school books (last one graduated in 2009) they simply present the facts as we know to this point. There is no chapter in the Science book named "There is no God"!

Why does religion need to be taught in Public School? I believe science should be presented and taught to children in school and religion taught at home. Every American has the right to teach their children what ever religion they so please as long as it doesn't endanger the childrens lives. Or break laws. Which reminds me...do we teach Rastafarian religion too? Then they can go to Health class and learn how smoking marijuana is bad for your health. I think that might get a bit confusing and convoluted. Every American Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist and even Satanist have the right to practice and teach their religion. What they don't have is the right to force their religious views and beliefs on other Americans. If you believe strongly enough in your religion that you think it is the one true way then you should be able to teach it to your children yourself.

Let Science be science and religion be taught to children by their own people.



Thank you for your input and actually it's up to each to form their own basis of belief or whatever they do believe. I have said, more than once, that I believe it continues to be and will continue being a matter of FAITH.

I also understand your sentiment, and Sofa's, regarding teaching the number of creation theories however each society whether Hindu, Christian, Muslim, or whatever I feel should teach those theories that their ancestors were brought up on just as a matter of history. How much emphasis you give it is a point of discussion however. Regarding here, in America, I do feel that you can teach Intelligent design without being Religious about it. You can teach Creation without doctrinally tying it to a certain religion or denomination. I don't know that there is a perfect scenario however I do know that, as it exist today, Evolutionist do control the venue and the "field" so to say and if you don't play by their rules you don't play. While many have a problem with Ben Stein's "Expelled" his research is out there and his findings, regarding people losing their positions because they sought to teach or promote another theory, other than evolution is a fact. I agree thought that with regards to religion it is the parents responsibility to teach their kids whatever they want for it is their kids. Regarding Creation/Intelligent Design there are more than just a few that accept this as their chosen method to believe in so teaching it or allowing it isn't like pulling out every little faith's belief or group's belief.

Again thanks for your comment it was well said.
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Why not give students the ability to make up their own minds given the positives and negatives of each (theory that is).


I presume you are talking about Hollow Earth theory here? Or is it Flat Earth theory?

I presume you want students to learn how the EARTH is the center of the solar system (as stated in the bible, of course) and is surrounded by spheres with holes poked in the firmament in order to let through the light from heaven?

Oh, there's also the biblical "theory" hat diseases are caused by demons. Do we teach that, too?

These are ALL valid religions theories, GB. Do you propose we teach all these or just the ones you agree with?

AND THIS FROM A PERSON WHO TELLS US HE/SHE IS A CHRISTIAN! -- HELLO!


Yes Bill. The sun really is in the center of the solar system despite what the bible says. No, the earth is not at the center of Creation despite what the bible says. Yes, the earth is far, far older that 6000 years despite what MAN says the bible says. Yes, evolution best explains the development of biology on this plant despite what the bible says.

Despite what you say, a Christian does not have to be stupid. I can embrace the truth of science without endangering my faith because my faith is pretty strong. How about you?
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Ben Stein's "Expelled" his research is out there and his findings, regarding people losing their positions because they sought to teach or promote another theory, other than evolution is a fact.


No GB, they were fired for teaching RELIGION in a SCIENCE classroom! You have admitted that you understand the concept here. You KNOW is is a religious issue yet you still insist that we should teach it in a SCIENCE classroom.

If you were a teacher, you should be fired too.

Now, I would certainly be in favor of teaching Creation and other RELIGIOUS concepts in a comparative religion class or bible literacy class in public schools. But for people like you to attempt to disguise this religion issue as a scientific one in order to gain a few souls is dishonest an IMMORAL.

Think about it, Gb. You are suggesting that Christians bear false witness in order to save souls. Salvation doesn't work that way dude.
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AND THIS FROM A PERSON WHO TELLS US HE/SHE IS A CHRISTIAN! -- HELLO!


Read: "And you call yourself a member of OUR Club...?!" (Standard guilt trip when he doesn't have an answer.)

Bill is obviously "Stupid-on-purpose." From what I can see, he's actually PROUD of it. There's absolutely NO excuse for that. Ignorance is one thing...Ignorance can be cured by education, however-Like Ron White said: "Ya can't fix stupid." Stupid on purpose is even worse than that.
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Originally posted by gbrk: Ben Stein's "Expelled" his research is out there and his findings, regarding people losing their positions because they sought to teach or promote another theory, other than evolution is a fact.

Now, I would certainly be in favor of teaching Creation and other RELIGIOUS concepts in a comparative religion class or bible literacy class in public schools.

Hi Sofa,

Better yet, why not set them side by side -- like a Coke vs Pepsi taste test -- and let the students chose for themselves which they believe: Evolution or Creation.

We, as Christians, have enough faith in the intelligence of the young students to be willing to accept such an arrangement.

Yet, you Evolutionists do not have enough faith in your theory of Evolution -- to put it to the test.

Whenever it is suggested that we do a side by side presentation -- you Evolutionists wet your pants out of fear. You KNOW your Evolution would lose in a fair comparison.

Therefore, you fight tooth and nail to prevent this type of honest comparison from happening.

We have faith in our Creation. Yet, you very obviously do NOT have faith in your Evolution.

We offer Creation and Christianity openly to students.

You want to force-feed them Evolution. But, hey, if that is the only weapon in your arsenal -- I guess you have to use it.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by gbrk: Ben Stein's "Expelled" his research is out there and his findings, regarding people losing their positions because they sought to teach or promote another theory, other than evolution is a fact.

Now, I would certainly be in favor of teaching Creation and other RELIGIOUS concepts in a comparative religion class or bible literacy class in public schools.

Hi Sofa,

Better yet, why not set them side by side -- like a Coke vs Pepsi taste test -- and let the students chose for themselves which they believe: Evolution or Creation.

We, as Christians, have enough faith in the intelligence of the young students to be willing to accept such an arrangement.

Yet, you Evolutionists do not have enough faith in your theory of Evolution -- to put it to the test.

Whenever it is suggested that we do a side by side presentation -- you Evolutionists wet your pants out of fear. You KNOW your Evolution would lose in a fair comparison.

Therefore, you fight tooth and nail to prevent this type of honest comparison from happening.

We have faith in our Creation. Yet, you very obviously do NOT have faith in your Evolution.

We offer Creation and Christianity openly to students.

You want to force-feed them Evolution. But, hey, if that is the only weapon in your arsenal -- I guess you have to use it.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill


Evolution is a science. Creation is a religion. They should never be presented together. However I do believe that Sofa said he thought a COMPARATIVE religion class would be a good idea. You do know what comparative means don't you? If it was in a public school setting it would have to be open to all recognized religions though. Once again I think that might be too much ground to cover for a high school class.

There are religious schools. In our area there are at least 3 that I know of. Mars Hill is one of the best high schools in the area. They teach Christianity K-12. It also cost as much to send your child to one of these schools as it does to send them to college. I would think that the local churches would want to make this kind of education more available to the masses. I mean isn't that what all those yard sales and car washes in the church parking lots are all about? To raise money so that they can do mission work?

I find it odd that most conservative christians are constantly whining that the government is trying to tell them how to worship or take away their rights as christians, but then they turn around and want the government to pay for the teaching of their religious beliefs with our tax money, but they don't want the needy to have healthcare paid for by the government! Nice christian attitude. Frowner Do it yourselves! Set up schools and teach creation to all that want to come. No one is stopping you nor do they want to.
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Evolution is a science. Creation is a religion.

Hi Jan,

No, my Friend, Evolution is a THEORY. Creation is a part of Christianity.

Science is a part of the Creation. When "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" (Genesis 1:1) -- science was part of that Creation.

God created the sciences and the laws governing all the sciences -- therefore, science, all the sciences -- is a subset of Creation.

So, teaching Creation in the science class is analogous to teaching Science 101 before advancing to other science classes.

Works for me. And, if Evolutionist had any FAITH in their THEORY of Evolution -- it would work for them also -- instead of making them wet their pants every time Science and Creation are mentioned in the same sentence.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Better yet, why not set them side by side -- like a Coke vs Pepsi taste test -- and let the students chose for themselves which they believe: Evolution or Creation.



For the same reason we do not let them "choose" between an earth centric solar system versus heliocentric solar system or flat versus hollow versus spherical earth. One of them is a scientific fact despite the protestations of people like you for hundreds of years.

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