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Originally Posted by okuok:
Originally Posted by frog:

Don't most forums have a rule that you can only sign up under one user name unless you legitimately change your name?  What is the point of having a name if one is posting under several. I don't understand.....

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Well frog, Gofish gets kicked off the forum every-so-often for criminal indifference to humanity and by slight of hand resurrects himself back on the forum under disguise using another name.

One time he cussed Bro Bill and was kicked off the forum.

The cuss words still linger and at night it seems they still be heard echoing out of the bowels of hell waiting to claim the one who gave birth to them.

 

 

Years ago I posted here under another name, lost my log in info and stopped, then started again some time ago with a different name. No intent to deceive.

 

GoFish didn't cuss Bill, DeepFat did, sorta, and was banned. As I recall some idiot who championed child molesters gave GoFish's true identity away and he began to use others. Yes, I think Unob is GoFish. Fishy always said he didn't use his "true" personality on here when he posted.

 

Is Ram a henchbroad? I don't think he's a broad. Henchbroads are why no one can change their name anymore. They came on here and started bashing many of the women on here, some who got their licks in also, but I'd say in self defense. I think I can count at least 8 names Ram has used.

 

Might as well say the magic words: Sweetwater

Ya got me! But I do think it's a big scam. Like others have said, I have a house that needs repairs. Come on over and work on it for me and I won't charge you a cent.

 

In all seriousness, scams like Sweetwater make it hard for anyone to contribute to restorations of buildings where the money is used for the right thing. So I think it should be reported, but that's just me. I don't think they're doing anything this year anyway, so just let 'em fizzle out naturally and enjoy their melt downs as entertainment.

Originally Posted by frog:

        Don't most forums have a rule that you can only sign up under one user name unless you legitimately change your name?  What is the point of having a name if one is posting under several. I don't understand.....





Every forum I've ever been on has this rule except THIS forum. I agree with you 100% what's the point anymore when it all been turned into a freak show circus event with a troll that posts under a hundred different names and keeps the drama stirred up 24/7. I don't understand it either
Originally Posted by FirenzeVeritas:
Well, Robustus, much of my statement is based on reading various theses of evolution. Please cite these "various theses". Many have written concerning the possibility of life on other planets. Citations would be helpful.--specifically life "evolved" enough to have a complex or even semi-complex neural system. The chance of one species developing is less than one-tenth of one percent. (I have no idea how these researchers arrived at that figure, but we'll go with it unless you have an update.) I agree that the odds are likely large (I don't know the numbers) but probability does not exclude abiogenesis. Again, citations for your statements would be ideal.

Of the two million or so species on earth (and I have read there may be as many as six million) I have no idea how many have a complex neural system, but I would venture a great deal. I also note that even such species as trees or daffodils, as NSNS mentioned, may not have neural systems, but are still complex.
The biological complexity you question is completely sensible and reasonable when considering that life has existed on earth for the majority of its ~4.6 billion years. 3.6 billion year-old bacterial fossils have been found all over the world. Photosynthetic organisms have been dated at about 3.4 billion years old. The cells that (I hope) you and I learned about in high school (membrane-bound with a nucleus, etc.) of which you and I, and all other large and complex organisms are made appear in the fossil record about 1.5 billion years ago. Animals start appearing on the fossil record about 600 million years ago. The modern organism lineage appears on the record about 570 million years ago. Land was colonized about 400 million years ago, and on and on... Given the unfathomable spans of time that life has been proven to exist on earth and the evolutionary development that is documented in the fossil record and backed up by genetics, the biological complexity you so simply question is not only expected but predicted by science. There's no magic here or leaps of faith. How 'bout with you?

Therefore it would take a statistician of some knowledge, not to mention spare time, to calculate the odds of all these species evolving from one single cell organism that originated from...oh, I forgot, you don't really consider that part of the scenario.
I'm glad that you now grasp that Evolution itself does not describe the beginnings of life only it's development. However, it is completely incorrect to state that science does not consider the question of how life started on earth. That science does not yet have a fully demonstrable theory of this is a testament to the honesty of the ever ongoing scientific method of inquiry. We don't yet know is an honorable answer. However, it would be dishonest to ever confuse 'we don't know yet' it with 'we don't care', even if it serves your sectarian world view.
quote:   Originally Posted by Deep Not Shallow Not Slim:

LMAO!  Yeah, I cussed at Bill, and the only dishonor is on this forum that cannot handle a bit of adult language.   Bill deserved it, for his stubborn, deliberate stupidity.  It is only to the discredit of this forum that specific language is banned.  For example, "I feel pretty, and witty, and ***".  Please.   DF


Hi Deep,

 

More precisely, you used the "F" word in a post to me.  Deep, my Friend, if you want to live in the gutter, there are many Forums where you can wallow to your heart's content.  But, on the TimesDaily Forums, they do attempt to have some class and decorum.  Sorry if that offends your worldly standards.

 

My Friend, I will admit that when you used to tell us you live in Hollywood -- I wondered if you really meant West Hollywood.   Thank you for clearing this up.   By the way, was that really you I saw, on television, in the Pride Parade in Hollywood?

 

And, in the  "Are You An Atheist?" discussion, you declare, "The people most likely to see their children starve to death are those who are encouraged, at the pain of Hell, to reproduce."

 

No, my Friend, this is your extremely weak argument in favor of "murder by abortion" -- and our discussions on abortion have to do with places like California, New York, and other major U.S. cities where Murder, Inc, i.e.,"Planned Parenthood" runs amok.  Not in countries where people are starving to death such as on the African continent. 

 

Actually, if the U.S. government would stop giving money to Planned Parenthood -- and put those millions to work feeding people in poor countries -- that would be a much better use of our funds.  And, that will save lives instead of taking lives.

 

So, no, it is not the reproducing that bothers us near as much as it is the killing of the babies BEFORE they even have a chance to experience life.

 

Therefore, Deep, my Friend -- you live as "gaily" as you like -- but, please do not expect us to condone nor approve of that or of the "murder by abortion" you advocate.

 

God bless,  have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Bill, the energy that comes off your posts is not at all friendly, not wishing people a wonderful, blessed day, and I'm not sure why you call people "my friend" when you obviously don't think of them as friends.  Why not just be honest and call people the names you feel they deserve to be called instead of being passive aggressive and handing out veiled insults in the form of instructive comments?  

 

You are very ill-informed on several topics, but really I already know that it isn't worth the time to discuss them with you since you "know" your point of view and beliefs are the only right way to think whether you have any facts to back them up.  This isn't about what I believe since I would feel this way after reading your posts whatever my religious persuasion was.  You surely have the right to what you believe, but there isn't any need to be nasty to people who don't feel as you do, and especially when the nastiness is thinly veiled with supposed love and the desire to help people learn the "truth".  

 

I'm sorry you are so unhappy inside on some level, but really your real intent is obvious.

quote:   Originally Posted by frog:

Bill, the energy that comes off your posts is not at all friendly, not wishing people a wonderful, blessed day, and I'm not sure why you call people "my friend" when you obviously don't think of them as friends.  Why not just be honest and call people the names you feel they deserve to be called instead of being passive aggressive and handing out veiled insults in the form of instructive comments? 


Hi Frog,


Actually, I do consider everyone on the Religion Forum to be my Friend.  This, in no way, obligates them to consider me a Friend.   Friendship is like a smile -- "Give it away, and most often it will return to you!"  I have found this to be very true in my personal life.

I love to walk.  When I am walking and pass others, I will smile and greet them.  It is extremely rare that these offers of friendship are not returned.  Walking through a store or shopping mall, I cannot tell you how often a small child will light up, start smiling, and greeting me -- just from me smiling at him/her.

Just last week in the mall, I was walking past an infant in a stroller.  Without me even smiling at this baby, when he saw me walking by, he began to laugh and was trying to talk.  Both the mother and I were very surprised.  This child very obviously sensed my love for all children and responded with happiness and love.  On that one visit to the mall, this happened several times with small children.  This innocent, Christ-like, offer of love and friendship thrilled me so much that I called my wife to tell her about it.

So, yes, Frog -- love and friendship can be shared -- even if it is a one-way street.  Of course, it is always greater when it is a two-way street.  But, love and friendship shared -- is NEVER wasted.   YOU really should try it some time.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Babies do that a lot, actually.  I have strange kids come up to me in stores and want to come home with me, people come up and start telling me their life stories, and I don't often meet someone  I don't have a nice chat with.  Do you feel better since you got your little dig in about me trying friendship?  You have no idea if I have friends, what my life is like, or if I need to do anything differently in my life.  

 

Trying friendship is one thing and I have done that here as I do everywhere, but when I spot passive aggressive behavior I don't play the game.  You call me friend and then insult me (well, to you many things are insults that aren't to me) as you do everyone here who doesn't agree with everything you say.  I think if you really listened (read) what most are saying to you here you would see that your re****tion on this forum isn't for friendship or as a Christian role model.  But I'm not infallible and I could be wrong there...just my opinion.

In Dr. Sapolsky’s “Language” lecture in a series on Human Behavior he points out that “kids learn language at 15-20 months {Chasky] and can say compilation of words it has never heard before. “it generates a language construction”. “they generate examples of things they have never heard before. [Chasky] “they have an innate structure for language and are able to generalize rules of construction into language”.

“at 3 months they begin to pay attention to vowel sounds.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIOQgY1tqrU&feature=related

 

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