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The HIV and AIDS rate in the nation’s capital has reached alarming heights, according to a report released by the D.C. HIV/AIDS Administration.

At least 3 percent of D.C. residents have HIV or AIDS, which is about 3,000 people per every 100,000 in the city, the report says. Black men have the highest rate of infection at 7 percent. Black women in the city have a 3 percent infection rate. Overall, over 4 percent of D.C. Blacks are reportedly infected with HIV and 76 percent of the city’s HIV-infected residents are Black.

Heterosexual intercourse is the leading mode of transmission among Blacks with the disease.

If these figures aren’t scary enough, the number of residents actually infected is “certainly higher,” the report says, considering the numbers only reflect those who have gotten tested, reports The Washington Post.

An area needs just a 1 percent rate of infection for an epidemic to be considered “generalized and severe.” D.C.’s numbers are drawing comparisons to parts of Africa, a continent where AIDS has ravaged some communities. “Our rates are higher than West Africa. They’re on par with Uganda and some parts of Kenya,” the city’s director of HIV/AIDS Administration, Shannon L. Hader, told the Post.

The numbers shot up 22 percent since 2007’s report and is the most accurate report ever done, according to its authors.

Mayor Adrian Fenty expressed concern over the epidemic, but at the same time urged citizens to be more responsible.

“In order to solve an issue as complex as HIV and AIDS, you have to step it up. It’s the mayor and certainly other elected officials. But it’s also the community. You have this problem affecting us, and you tell people how serious it is and it literally goes in one ear and out the other.”

There was one bright spot in the report: the city government’s HIV testing programs have increased 70 percent, and people are being diagnosed earlier.
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Come on, folks, this is like pregnancy. For the most part, we are all adults here and the methods for the transmission of HIV/AIDS has been known for YEARS. It is no surprise that, if you do not protect yourself, you risk catching AIDS. I know, there are a few transfusion cases and rape cases, but for the most part this is pure irresponsibility on the part of the parties involved.

The sad part is that, even if your partner thinks they are clean, they may have it and not even know. Mom and Dad used to say 'you play you pay,' probably not realizing it would be with some folks lives, but that old addage still holds true.

Someone on here has the quote 'you can't fix stupid.' Probably the most true statement you'll ever hear....

Kirk
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I know, there are a few transfusion cases and rape cases, but for the most part this is pure irresponsibility on the part of the parties involved.

The sad part is that, even if your partner thinks they are clean, they may have it and not even know. Mom and Dad used to say 'you play you pay,' probably not realizing it would be with some folks lives, but that old addage still holds true.

Someone on here has the quote 'you can't fix stupid.' Probably the most true statement you'll ever hear....



The "sad part" is that the victims of this disease are poor, largely uninsured and they have families who love and depend on them in one way or the other. They are human beings with flaws, not the least of which is bad judgment. People very often trot out the label of "stupid" in regards to human nature. That could be said for all of us on many different levels. The disease itself does not recognize its host as gay, straight, black or white. It is an opportunistic organism most often transferred through sexual contact. Worldwide AIDS is largely a heterosexual disease and it was only a matter of time before it made its way into the heterosexual community in the U.S. Even sadder would be the young people on Spring Break who think being on "the pill" is the only protection they need during a week of debauchery in Florida with an exotic "Mr. Good-Body".
The true "Sad part" is that the U.S. is spending Billions of dollars to research a disease that 98% of the victims in this country took specific actions to contract. If someone told me that wearing a blue shirt on Thursday would kill me, I would get rid of every blue shirt I had. It is the same with AIDS, I don't have facts, but I would imagine that there are very few people in the U.S. that don't know one can get AIDS from sex or injection drug use. With AIDS in the U.S., only about 2% are true innocent victims.
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A sad statistic for a beautiful city adminstered by the same gang of democrats for decades.


What a strange remark. Curiously off subject.



Sorry, Queen Snake, but entirely on subject. As I've tracked game and know from tracks and spoor what I'm hunting, so I've learned to recognize the stink of cities in failure mode.

Crime rates, poor education systems, high bastard rate (I'm not PC), high STD rates are all signs of a city in decay. DC, even when swimming in money, can't get it together. They spend the second most per student in the nation and have miserable schools. Same with the HIV/AIDS rates. Same with the high crime rates. Cutting crime is a known, but the town council will not implement the necessary procedures to accomplish that.

All of the above are indicative of a city ruled and misruled for decades by Democrats.

"Liberals now wish to be called progressives, as they've destroyed the reputation of being liberal!"
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Originally posted by interventor1:
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Originally posted by interventor1:
A sad statistic for a beautiful city adminstered by the same gang of democrats for decades.


What a strange remark. Curiously off subject.



Sorry, Queen Snake, but entirely on subject. As I've tracked game and know from tracks and spoor what I'm hunting, so I've learned to recognize the stink of cities in failure mode.

Crime rates, poor education systems, high bastard rate (I'm not PC), high STD rates are all signs of a city in decay. DC, even when swimming in money, can't get it together. They spend the second most per student in the nation and have miserable schools. Same with the HIV/AIDS rates. Same with the high crime rates. Cutting crime is a known, but the town council will not implement the necessary procedures to accomplish that.

All of the above are indicative of a city ruled and misruled for decades by Democrats.

"Liberals now wish to be called progressives, as they've destroyed the reputation of being liberal!"


Taking pride in your crudeness ("I am not P.C.) does not make you noble, or virtuous. It just makes you crude. If calling a child "a bastard" makes you fell good then you have bigger worries than being considered "P.C." The "bastards", the sick and the dying are none of your concern or responsibility - thank God.
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Originally posted by SHELDIVR:
While you are thanking God, you should realize that Bastard is a Biblical term.

So is "ass".


I agree with other posters, cause is known, method of spread or distribution well known. Stop the irresponsible behavior and this situation goes away on its own.


You are neglecting two basic elements in your rigid view: Human nature and sexual desire. We all know smoking causes cancer and heart disease as well. People continue to smoke.
I did not call a child a bastard, I referred to the bastard rate, which the PC crowd refers to as children of unwed mothers, or such. Illegitimate or whatever, its the same. The children are the victims of their parents' failures.

No amount of PC sugar coating or Victorian eyes averted change facts.

I suggest a bit of reading comprehension. As most liberals, you seek destruction of the critic rather than facing problems.

"Liberals now wish to be called progressives, as they've destroyed the reputation of being liberal!"
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:

The "sad part" is that the victims of this disease are poor, largely uninsured and they have families who love and depend on them in one way or the other.


You just described alot more than AIDS/HIV victims. And I think most people have families that love and depend on them, poor or not. So your point would be?

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They are human beings with flaws, not the least of which is bad judgment. People very often trot out the label of "stupid" in regards to human nature. That could be said for all of us on many different levels.


Yep, some more than others.

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The disease itself does not recognize its host as gay, straight, black or white. It is an opportunistic organism most often transferred through sexual contact. Worldwide AIDS is largely a heterosexual disease and it was only a matter of time before it made its way into the heterosexual community in the U.S.


I don't think I ever mentioned sexual preference...

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Even sadder would be the young people on Spring Break who think being on "the pill" is the only protection they need during a week of debauchery in Florida with an exotic "Mr. Good-Body".


Yea, I don't think these folks fall into that poor, uninsured group you were talking about.

An occasional case of HIV/AIDS in a population can be blamed on 'bad judgement.' This epidemic here, with all the press it has gotten in the last few years, can only be blamed on stupidity. If someone said the HIV/AIDS rate was at an epidemic level in Daytona, Fl, I would sure not be relying on 'the pill' during my spring break vacation.

Kirk
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
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Originally posted by SHELDIVR:
While you are thanking God, you should realize that Bastard is a Biblical term.

So is "ass".


I agree with other posters, cause is known, method of spread or distribution well known. Stop the irresponsible behavior and this situation goes away on its own.


You are neglecting two basic elements in your rigid view: Human nature and sexual desire. We all know smoking causes cancer and heart disease as well. People continue to smoke.


But, don't you think, if a smoker could slide a little rubber sheath on their cigarette that reduced their chances of getting cancer by 99% with little loss of the joys of smoking, he would?

Just a thought....

Kirk
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Originally posted by interventor1:
I did not call a child a bastard, I referred to the bastard rate, which the PC crowd refers to as children of unwed mothers, or such. Illegitimate or whatever, its the same. The children are the victims of their parents' failures.

No amount of PC sugar coating or Victorian eyes averted change facts.

I suggest a bit of reading comprehension. As most liberals, you seek destruction of the critic rather than facing problems.

"Liberals now wish to be called progressives, as they've destroyed the reputation of being liberal!"


I sort of view your use of archaic Biblical terminology for "fatherless children" as more "Victorian" than any term I have used. In some cases, being "P.C." is simply being polite. I have worked with many children who you would call a technical "bastard", but I refrain from calling them such names. It would be harmful to the child the same way as the term "illegitimate" might be. I have a lovely 13 year old niece who was adopted as an infant. She had no father. She is neither a "bastard" OR "illegitimate".

I would suggest to you a bit of humanity and kindness. You have devolved into nothing BUT a political conservative, who is as dry and thin as that piece of vellum that your degree is engraved on. I do not seek your destruction - I seek NEVER to have to meet an individual like you in my "real" life. So far, so good.
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Originally posted by The Cold Hard Truth:
More than one way to get them them out of the capitol state


Dang, Cold, didn't know we had a common ground ;o)

You would think, with all the sex scandles, this would spread into the political arena.

Kirk


If you believe as I do HIV was created in a lab just for these reasons perhaps we do.. You people do know that the man who created the HIV virus has a patent for it?
Great way to clean the folks off the Continent of Africa without a war.. get rid of the junkies, prostitutes, gays.. one of the most effective tools in the Illuminati arsenal.. they want to depopulate the planet by about 60%.. too many people using too many resources and creating too much waste.. who don't really have a purpose or a reason to live is the way they see it.. I agree with their philosophy to a degree... unfortunately.. I'm sure I would be included in the percentage that has to go... like the rest of the people here


United States Patent 4,647,773
Gallo , et al. March 3, 1987
Method of continuous production of retroviruses (HTLV-III) from patients with AIDS and pre-AIDS
Inventors: Gallo; Robert C. (Bethesda, MD), Popovic; Mikulas (Bethesda, MD)
Assignee: The United States of America as represented by the Department of Health (Washington, DC)
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The US government also invented the patented cure for AIDS, called Tetrasil (U.S. Patent Number 5676977)
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
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Originally posted by SHELDIVR:
While you are thanking God, you should realize that Bastard is a Biblical term.

So is "ass".


I agree with other posters, cause is known, method of spread or distribution well known. Stop the irresponsible behavior and this situation goes away on its own.


You are neglecting two basic elements in your rigid view: Human nature and sexual desire. We all know smoking causes cancer and heart disease as well. People continue to smoke.


But, don't you think, if a smoker could slide a little rubber sheath on their cigarette that reduced their chances of getting cancer by 99% with little loss of the joys of smoking, he would?

Just a thought....

Kirk


A great thought! Why don't you market that little gem (the metaphorical one regarding sex - not the one about the condoms for cigs). You could save the world.
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Originally posted by The Cold Hard Truth:

If you believe as I do HIV was created in a lab just for these reasons perhaps we do.. You people do know that the man who created the HIV virus has a patent for it?
Great way to clean the folks off the Continent of Africa without a war.. get rid of the junkies, prostitutes, gays.. one of the most effective tools in the Illuminati arsenal.. they want to depopulate the planet by about 60%.. too many people using too many resources and creating too much waste.. who don't really have a purpose or a reason to live is the way they see it.. I agree with their philosophy to a degree... unfortunately.. I'm sure I would be included in the percentage that has to go... like the rest of the people here


United States Patent 4,647,773
Gallo , et al. March 3, 1987
Method of continuous production of retroviruses (HTLV-III) from patients with AIDS and pre-AIDS
Inventors: Gallo; Robert C. (Bethesda, MD), Popovic; Mikulas (Bethesda, MD)
Assignee: The United States of America as represented by the Department of Health (Washington, DC)
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The US government also invented the patented cure for AIDS, called Tetrasil (U.S. Patent Number 5676977)


Well, and then our common ground parted ;o) I, personally don't believe there is a conspiracy this deep, but I have been surprised before.

Ohh, and you'll love this, check out comcast.net. They had an article about how 2007 had the US's largest birth record EVER! They are calling in the new baby boom.

And hey, SHEL, here is a tidbit for you, in the 2007 record number of births, 40% were illegitimate. I was SHOCKED!

Kirk
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:

You are neglecting two basic elements in your rigid view: Human nature and sexual desire. We all know smoking causes cancer and heart disease as well. People continue to smoke.


But, don't you think, if a smoker could slide a little rubber sheath on their cigarette that reduced their chances of getting cancer by 99% with little loss of the joys of smoking, he would?

Just a thought....

Kirk


A great thought! Why don't you market that little gem (the metaphorical one regarding sex - not the one about the condoms for cigs). You could save the world.


I surely do wish I had the patent on the condom, I would be rich. Its a shame I wouldn't have a market for them in DC. Seems people there have not heard of them....

Kirk
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If you believe as I do HIV was created in a lab just for these reasons perhaps we do.. You people do know that the man who created the HIV virus has a patent for it?
Great way to clean the folks off the Continent of Africa without a war.. get rid of the junkies, prostitutes, gays.. one of the most effective tools in the Illuminati arsenal.. they want to depopulate the planet by about 60%.. too many people using too many resources and creating too much waste.. who don't really have a purpose or a reason to live is the way they see it.. I agree with their philosophy to a degree... unfortunately.. I'm sure I would be included in the percentage that has to go... like the rest of the people here


United States Patent 4,647,773
Gallo , et al. March 3, 1987
Method of continuous production of retroviruses (HTLV-III) from patients with AIDS and pre-AIDS
Inventors: Gallo; Robert C. (Bethesda, MD), Popovic; Mikulas (Bethesda, MD)
Assignee: The United States of America as represented by the Department of Health (Washington, DC)



Uh! NO! The patent describes a method of reproducing the virus from AIDS patients. Its a free patent, which allows researchers to use it without royalty payments. This patent could not exist without the previous existence of the AIDS virus.
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Cold hard whatever,

This post ranks with your post of railway cars for transporting prisoners -- the same cars which transport automobiles and may be seen almost everyday. You really should get better material -- this isn't working for you.
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Originally posted by The Cold Hard Truth:
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Originally posted by mekirk2:
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Originally posted by The Cold Hard Truth:
More than one way to get them them out of the capitol state


Dang, Cold, didn't know we had a common ground ;o)

You would think, with all the sex scandles, this would spread into the political arena.

Kirk


If you believe as I do HIV was created in a lab just for these reasons perhaps we do.. You people do know that the man who created the HIV virus has a patent for it?
Great way to clean the folks off the Continent of Africa without a war.. get rid of the junkies, prostitutes, gays.. one of the most effective tools in the Illuminati arsenal.. they want to depopulate the planet by about 60%.. too many people using too many resources and creating too much waste.. who don't really have a purpose or a reason to live is the way they see it.. I agree with their philosophy to a degree... unfortunately.. I'm sure I would be included in the percentage that has to go... like the rest of the people here


United States Patent 4,647,773
Gallo , et al. March 3, 1987
Method of continuous production of retroviruses (HTLV-III) from patients with AIDS and pre-AIDS
Inventors: Gallo; Robert C. (Bethesda, MD), Popovic; Mikulas (Bethesda, MD)
Assignee: The United States of America as represented by the Department of Health (Washington, DC)
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The US government also invented the patented cure for AIDS, called Tetrasil (U.S. Patent Number 5676977)


I pray each and every night for people like you!
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I do not believe that AIDS was deliberately introduced into the population. I do believe that there are people who really don't care if certain people die.


AIDS is a generally preventable disease that is nearly uniformly fatal. For a variety of reasons, people avoid the precautions that could prevent the disease. The people who participate in high-risk activity have likely heard about "AIDS" before but continue to engage in that high-risk activity, presumably because they're afflicted with a fatal lack of judgment or have an invulnerability complex. In short, their actions say that they really don't care if they die, or the people they have intimate contact with die. If one were to be clinically anthropological about it, you might call this a culling of the herd; killing off the stupid, weak, or unlucky ones.

AIDS is a devastating tragedy, no question about it. There is nothing funny or ironic when you lose a member of your family to this disease. Some believe the African continent may be depopulated by nearly 90% as a result of this disease. This virus has the potential to kill more people than all the wars in history.

If that's not bad enough, the virus has tended to mutate. It was originally, I'm told, a disease the infected primates, but mutated to where it could infect humans. Can it mutate more? I doubt there's any question about it. The only unknown is the variety of mutation...could it mutate to the point where it could be transmitted by sneezing, or mosquito bites?

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I would suggest to you a bit of humanity and kindness. You have devolved into nothing BUT a political conservative, who is as dry and thin as that piece of vellum that your degree is engraved on. I do not seek your destruction - I seek NEVER to have to meet an individual like you in my "real" life. So far, so good.


How much humanity and kindness is appropriate? I would submit to you that confronting these problems using solely "humanity and kindness" is ineffective. While draconian measures are not necessary--yet--a little acceptance of personal responsibility (the thing we "political conservatives" tend to rant on about) might help a bit. If that can help, perhaps the "draconian measures" may never become necessary.
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How much humanity and kindness is appropriate? I would submit to you that confronting these problems using solely "humanity and kindness" is ineffective. While draconian measures are not necessary--yet--a little acceptance of personal responsibility (the thing we "political conservatives" tend to rant on about) might help a bit. If that can help, perhaps the "draconian measures" may never become necessary.


There is no limit to the humanity and kindness for those who are sick in my humble opinion. That goes for the smoker suffering with cancer and emphysema or the person managing AIDS or the individual suffering from Adult Onset Diabetes as a result of obesity. Each of these diseases are behavioral and result in long term, difficult to manage illnesses. I find it curious that you would suggest "draconian" measures to deal with one and not the other. Each involves a measure of personal responsibility. I totally accept personal responsibility as a necessary aspect to success as a human being. I also accept that there will always be those incapable of or unwilling to understand or accept that concept.
The vagaries of human nature do not fit neatly into tidy little boxes and rigid ideological forms. Hence the phrase: "We are only human."
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First, I don't propose nor do I support draconian measures to deal with AIDS. I simply understand that, if the infection mechanism of the disease changes due to natural mutation (or genetic engineering, for that matter), there may well be a push to isolate those who are infected. I hope you believe such a thing to be possible.

Second, I believe there is a limit to the amount of humanity anyone who is sick should expect. Perhaps we're dealing with semantics; very few of us are Mother Teresa or Father Damian.

Third, while adult onset diabetes is related to behavior, it is not communicable. Except, perhaps, through example. Ditto cancer, as well as we can understand any of it. AIDS is not easily communicable under most circumstances, but my thesis was those circumstances may well change.

I certainly believe in helping those who are ill; I have a serious problem with the degree of national attention and strident shouts for "a world-wide campaign against AIDS". AIDS is readily preventable and related more-or-less exclusively to behavior. Other diseases (cancer, multiple sclerosis, muscular dystrophy, cystic fibrosis) well, not so much. I guess if I had to split up the health-care research money I'd probably focus on the latter four. I'd suggest it was humanity tempered by pragmatism. But I'd be pilloried in the press because of my insensitivity to AIDS sufferers.
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First, I don't propose nor do I support draconian measures to deal with AIDS. I simply understand that, if the infection mechanism of the disease changes due to natural mutation (or genetic engineering, for that matter), there may well be a push to isolate those who are infected. I hope you believe such a thing to be possible.



After 25 years of working with AIDS patients and their physicians I am reasonably familiar with methods of transmission and the mutation of the disease. It has, so far, remained a disease which has limited methods of transmission.

From the CDC:

Some people fear that HIV might be transmitted in other ways; however, no scientific evidence to support any of these fears has been found. If HIV were being transmitted through other routes (such as through air, water, or insects), the pattern of reported AIDS cases would be much different from what has been observed. For example, if mosquitoes could transmit HIV infection, many more young children and preadolescents would have been diagnosed with AIDS.

All reported cases suggesting new or potentially unknown routes of transmission are thoroughly investigated by state and local health departments with the assistance, guidance, and laboratory support from CDC. No additional routes of transmission have been recorded, despite a national sentinel system designed to detect just such an occurrence.

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HIV is dependent on certain environmental conditions for survival.This has been an observable fact which has remained consistent since its first identification many years ago. The mutations that have been observed are generally those associated with drug resistance and strain diversity. In both cases treatment has remained effective.

I met last night with a local group organizing a fundraising effort for Lauderdale County's 100 or so known individuals suffering with Aids. It was very well attended. The funds will keep open the local office of the Aids Action Coalition of North Alabama. That office offers the following services.

# Post Test Education
# Mental Health Assistance
# Support Groups
# Emergency Assistance
# Food and Housing Assistance
# Psychosocial Support
# Transportation Assistance
# Dental Referrals
# Medication Assistance
# Case Management

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I too am very familiar with the disease and how it is spread. So answer me this, how much money has been thrown at this disease in the last decade? How many people in Washington D.C can you identify that cannot tell you that AIDs is directly related to sexual activity and certain risky behaviors? How will more money prevent the additional spread of this disease in that spectrum of people?
I would be most interested to hear your exact ideas on how this problem could be more effectively addressed and either reduce the spread of this disease or slow its transmission?
Since 1981 the government has bombarded schools and the airwaves with information on this disease, and how it is contracted. It is not a disease that can be cured. It is a mutating virus that acts much like the common cold. It is has different effects in different hosts. It can either kill you quickly or take decades to do so.
I have all the sympathy in the world for the poor people who contract this disease thru blood transfusions and therapies which at the time were not known to be infectious. However, in today's world, greater than 99% of all new AIDs cases are directly associated with risky sexual behavior (both homosexual and heterosexual), as well as IV drug abuse. Unless you can come up with a way to end this with government monies I do not see how you plan to effectively curtail the spread of a disease in a population who despite repeated warnings will continue to enage in behaviors that will eventually kill them. The other diseases you point out such as Type II DM is another beast all together, most of which are related to genetic predispostion. Cancer deaths associated with smoking however are similar, and the same is true there as well.
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Originally posted by The Cold Hard Truth:
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Originally posted by mekirk2:
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Originally posted by The Cold Hard Truth:
More than one way to get them them out of the capitol state


Dang, Cold, didn't know we had a common ground ;o)

You would think, with all the sex scandles, this would spread into the political arena.

Kirk


If you believe as I do HIV was created in a lab just for these reasons perhaps we do.. You people do know that the man who created the HIV virus has a patent for it?
Great way to clean the folks off the Continent of Africa without a war.. get rid of the junkies, prostitutes, gays.. one of the most effective tools in the Illuminati arsenal.. they want to depopulate the planet by about 60%.. too many people using too many resources and creating too much waste.. who don't really have a purpose or a reason to live is the way they see it.. I agree with their philosophy to a degree... unfortunately.. I'm sure I would be included in the percentage that has to go... like the rest of the people here


United States Patent 4,647,773
Gallo , et al. March 3, 1987
Method of continuous production of retroviruses (HTLV-III) from patients with AIDS and pre-AIDS
Inventors: Gallo; Robert C. (Bethesda, MD), Popovic; Mikulas (Bethesda, MD)
Assignee: The United States of America as represented by the Department of Health (Washington, DC)
==
The US government also invented the patented cure for AIDS, called Tetrasil (U.S. Patent Number 5676977)




You might want to go put on your armadillo shell helmet and hide under the outhouse dude.It's a conspiracy;the G's after you.I now understand why you argue so vehemetly for the legalization of drugs now.You might need to cut back.
teyates and Lady Snake,

Compassion and billions of dollars, aside, the entire plaque of AIDS was preventable. Simple prophalaxis -- seperation of the infected victims to humane treatment centers would have stopped it in its tracks.

Similar efforts worked on TB and leprosy long before treatment and prevention methods were discovered. It was a combination of lawyers (ACLU) and activists that objected. Now, the world reaps a whirlwind of disease and unnecessary death.
I agree, 30 years ago when this arose however it was the time to consider that option. Now, the "left" wants to use the usual answer to everything that comes along...let's throw money at it!!!! That is what this is all about. Half of the money they raise or actually use MIGHT effect a research project. The rest goes for things like posters and condoms, which are never used, but make someone somewhere feel good about themselves, because they did something.
You can throw all the money you want at this disease and until people stop acting in an irresponsible and stupid way you are not going to erradicate it, nor control it effectively.

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