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War, declared, undeclared, just or unjust, is a costly business. It costs lives, mostly innocent lives, It costs materials, homes, schools, hospitals, businesses, churches, ammunition, trucks, tanks, guns, missiles, airplanes, fuel, and it requires feeding the army.
Just bringing our troops home from Iraq will cost money, may cost lives (they might have to fight their way out of Iraq) and it will take time.
Iraq will not support the Corporations of America. No country should be expected to, not even the USA. Corporations EARN support. Wars compell it. Governments EARN support, tryanies compell it.
"The essence of all religions is one. Only their approaches are different." ~Mahatma Gandhi
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Originally posted by EdEKit:
War, declared, undeclared, just or unjust, is a costly business. It costs lives, mostly innocent lives, It costs materials, homes, schools, hospitals, businesses, churches, ammunition, trucks, tanks, guns, missiles, airplanes, fuel, and it requires feeding the army.
Just bringing our troops home from Iraq will cost money, may cost lives (they might have to fight their way out of Iraq) and it will take time.
Iraq will not support the Corporations of America. No country should be expected to, not even the USA. Corporations EARN support. Wars compell it. Governments EARN support, tryanies compell it.



Now Iran is coming into the mix, we need to be afraid, VERY afraid!!!
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Originally posted by EdEKit:
War, declared, undeclared, just or unjust, is a costly business. It costs lives, mostly innocent lives, It costs materials, homes, schools, hospitals, businesses, churches, ammunition, trucks, tanks, guns, missiles, airplanes, fuel, and it requires feeding the army.
Just bringing our troops home from Iraq will cost money, may cost lives (they might have to fight their way out of Iraq) and it will take time.
Iraq will not support the Corporations of America. No country should be expected to, not even the USA. Corporations EARN support. Wars compell it. Governments EARN support, tryanies compell it.


It also brings baby booms. Maybe this is all a ploy to save Social Security by having a new baby boom to help pay for the retirement of the current "baby boomers."

Unfortunately the last couple wars have not brought the US together, but has torn us apart. Those that came together in WWII know what true sacrifice is and many of them I talk to think Americans are now spoiled.
I do not want to live in a world without the US being a world super power and to be one war is inevitable.
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Originally posted by yankeewitch:
Uber are you having a stroke or something? Do we need to call 911 for you?


Probably an overdose of reading liberal talking points and wondering how people get so far left as we see here.

I had a slightly different take. I don't think he is having a stroke, and I don't think he is overdosed on liberal talking points.
I do think he is EXPRESSING His opinion. His best thinking and his most carefully consider comments are expressed perfectly with "bla bla bla" He has applied EVERY CELL IN THE GREY MATTER OF HIS CRANIUM, AND COME UP WITH, "bla bla bla" Exactly proving my theory concerning the intellectual capabilities of the average Neo Conservative.
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Originally posted by EdEKit:
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Originally posted by imho:
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Originally posted by yankeewitch:
Uber are you having a stroke or something? Do we need to call 911 for you?


Probably an overdose of reading liberal talking points and wondering how people get so far left as we see here.

I had a slightly different take. I don't think he is having a stroke, and I don't think he is overdosed on liberal talking points.
I do think he is EXPRESSING His opinion. His best thinking and his most carefully consider comments are expressed perfectly with "bla bla bla" He has applied EVERY CELL IN THE GREY MATTER OF HIS CRANIUM, AND COME UP WITH, "bla bla bla" Exactly proving my theory concerning the intellectual capabilities of the average Neo Conservative.


Such a classy reply. What happened to that "not losing respect for yourself" talk?

There is no debating with someone who believes this about someone because they are conservative. You don't listen, you just post more liberal rhetoric.
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Originally posted by imho:
There is no debating with someone who believes this about someone because they are conservative. You don't listen, you just post more liberal rhetoric.


It would be much more pleasant if both sides could cease the name-calling have more civil discussion.

Too many people treat listening like a mother does. When your mother says that you aren't listening she really means that you aren't doing what she wants.

It is possible to listen, comprehend, and still not agree.
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Originally posted by EdEKit:
War, declared, undeclared, just or unjust, is a costly business. It costs lives, mostly innocent lives, It costs materials, homes, schools, hospitals, businesses, churches, ammunition, trucks, tanks, guns, missiles, airplanes, fuel, and it requires feeding the army.
Just bringing our troops home from Iraq will cost money, may cost lives (they might have to fight their way out of Iraq) and it will take time.
Iraq will not support the Corporations of America. No country should be expected to, not even the USA. Corporations EARN support. Wars compell it. Governments EARN support, tryanies compell it.




Lots of luck trying to get the Bush Gang to see reason. They've already demonstrated they don't give a Heck what the voters say, what the military brass says or what Congress says or does. They'll go on doing what they want to do until they are stopped. And there is only one way to stop them: Impeach!!

King George now says “expect casualties”. This is reassuring to hear from a virtual draft dodger. Where are his two daughters now? Are they serving in the military, honorably and proudly?

I think not. They are too busy becoming their own elitists at an Ivy League school.
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Lots of luck trying to get the Bush Gang to see reason. They've already demonstrated they don't give a Heck what the voters say, what the military brass says or what Congress says or does. They'll go on doing what they want to do until they are stopped. And there is only one way to stop them: Impeach!!

King George now says “expect casualties”. This is reassuring to hear from a virtual draft dodger. Where are his two daughters now? Are they serving in the military, honorably and proudly?

I think not. They are too busy becoming their own elitists at an Ivy League school.[/QUOTE]


I can't believe I finally agree with you. Bush should have to lead the attack with his two daughters right behind.Impeaching him isn't enough punishment for starting all this mess in the first place.
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Originally posted by yankeewitch:
Uber are you having a stroke or something? Do we need to call 911 for you?


Probably an overdose of reading liberal talking points and wondering how people get so far left as we see here.


Sounds as if he OD'ed on his favorite brand of Jim Jone's brand of Kool-Aid...
"De-escalate, investigate, stop funding war!!"

I suggest you ask Mohammed, or Akhmed over in Haji land if they would do the same on their side when we do it. When they agree, and carry that out, then, maybe we could do that.....

The day they stop cutting off heads and stuff, the that will be the day we do that, too....To be frank, not going to happen.
The New York Times > International > Middle East > Arms Move to Syria 'Unlikely,' Report Says

http://www.nytimes.com/ads/starwood/popWestinApr.html?s...=2005.04.26.12.55.07


Arms Move to Syria 'Unlikely,' Report Says

By DAVID E. SANGER

Published: April 26, 2005

he Bush administration's senior weapons inspector said in a report released last night that it was "unlikely" that Saddam Hussein's forces moved weapons to Syria, though he expressed concern about nuclear-related equipment that was apparently removed after American-led forces invaded Iraq.

In a 92-page addendum to a report issued last fall, Charles Duelfer, the head of the former Iraq Survey Group, was also highly critical of the way key Iraqi scientists were interviewed after their capture, suggesting opportunities to mine information from them might have been lost.

Mr. Duelfer, who took over the largely fruitless hunt for weapons after the resignation of David Kay, said, "Many detainees had as many as four different debriefers and were debriefed dozens of time, often by new, inexperienced and uninformed debriefers."

Nonetheless, he said, Mr. Hussein's large corps of scientists and engineers provided much of the critical information that led to the conclusion that Iraq posed little or no threat of using weapons of mass destruction against its own people, its neighbors or American forces.

On Syria, the report said that "no information gleaned from questioning Iraqis supported the possibility" that weapons were moved out of the country before the invasion, which was one theory about why no unconventional weapons were found.

Mr. Duelfer reported that his group, the Iraq Survey Group, believed "it was unlikely that an official transfer of W.M.D. material from Iraq to Syria took place. However, I.S.G. was unable to rule out unofficial movement of limited W.M.D.-related materials."

In the addendum, posted last night on the C.I.A.'s Web site (www.cia.gov) and reported by The Washington Post, he also comes to largely the same conclusion that international weapons inspectors and some European nations argued before the war: that Mr. Hussein's weapons ambitions were defeated by inspections.

"U.N. sanctions and intrusive Unscom inspections dampened the regime's ability to retain its W.M.D. expertise," he wrote. "During the course of the 1990's, staffs were directed to civilian enterprises. Concomitantly, attention through emigration, retirement and natural processes occurred."

He concluded that there was little practical value in still detaining many scientists and engineers who worked in the projects, though he warned that if left jobless and penniless they could help another country or terror group develop weapons.

Mr. Duelfer also gave the administration's first significant account of what happened at Al Qaqaa, outside of Baghdad, where stockpiles of conventional explosives that had been sealed by the International Atomic Energy Agency were looted. The revelation of that looting by The New York Times in the days leading up to the presidential election last year led to complaints by the Bush campaign that the release of the news had been timed to influence the election.

Mr. Duelfer reported that his inspectors did not get to the site until October 2004, about when the newspaper reports appeared, and apparently after the new Iraqi government reported the looting. The addendum shows pictures of the empty bunkers, though videos taken by television crews with American troops show the bunkers were still full of explosives well after the invasion.

Mr. Duelfer's report did not say why the explosives were left unguarded, even though they were considered especially dangerous.

In its most worrisome conclusion, the group "found that some nuclear-related dual-use equipment was missing from heavily damaged and looted sites" like Al Qaqaa, but its ultimate disposition could not be determined. While some of it was sold for scrap, "still others could have been taken intact to preserve their function," reinforcing conclusions of the Iraqi government and the I.A.E.A.
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Originally posted by imho:
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Originally posted by EdEKit:
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Originally posted by imho:
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Originally posted by yankeewitch:
Uber are you having a stroke or something? Do we need to call 911 for you?


Probably an overdose of reading liberal talking points and wondering how people get so far left as we see here.

I had a slightly different take. I don't think he is having a stroke, and I don't think he is overdosed on liberal talking points.
I do think he is EXPRESSING His opinion. His best thinking and his most carefully consider comments are expressed perfectly with "bla bla bla" He has applied EVERY CELL IN THE GREY MATTER OF HIS CRANIUM, AND COME UP WITH, "bla bla bla" Exactly proving my theory concerning the intellectual capabilities of the average Neo Conservative.


Such a classy reply. What happened to that "not losing respect for yourself" talk?

There is no debating with someone who believes this about someone because they are conservative. You don't listen, you just post more liberal rhetoric.


imho...If my responses DON'T MEET YOUR JUDGEMENT OF MY ATTEMPT TO RETAIN A MODICUM OF SELF RESPECT...it is YOUR PROBLEM. I know just how far I can go before becoming disgusted with myself, IF YOU ARE DISGUSTED WITH ME. Thanks, that was the strategy.
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Originally posted by Brentenman:
"De-escalate, investigate, stop funding war!!"

I suggest you ask Mohammed, or Akhmed over in Haji land if they would do the same on their side when we do it. When they agree, and carry that out, then, maybe we could do that.....

The day they stop cutting off heads and stuff, the that will be the day we do that, too....To be frank, not going to happen.

brentenman, put that gun down. OH, YOU AREN'T HOLDING IT? Well I intend shooting you down anyway.
FRIENDS, WHO SAYS TWO WRONGS MAKE A RIGHT?
brentenman.
WHO PLANS TO KEEP KILLING THEM TILL THEY STOP KILLING US, AND DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE WHEN THEY WILL STOP KILLING PEOPLE WHO ARE KILLING THEM?
brentenman.
WHO BRAGS ABOUT HOW BIG HIS GUNS ARE, MAKING THE REST OF WONDER WHO HE HAS POINTED THEM AT?
brentenman.

SORRY brentenman, the 27 seperate and fully developed personalities that live in my head out vote your POP GUN MENTALITY...despite being certifiable.

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