Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:

I used to have a lot of respect for Joy, no so much these days.

Extra, out of respect for you, you should know that rammlimn lies when the truth is a better story.  Don't take him at face value.  His original post here is not accurate.

 

DF

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 Deep,

 My post did not take any special regards to the opening post nor towards you. It was a commentary concerning many of the people she surrounds herself with these days. A casual scan of the forum in question now confirms my previous statement. The sheep, plainly stated, are trash without class.

 

Originally Posted by Pendra2010:

A whole lot of JUDGING coming from a preacher, especially since you've never met one soul your judging.. You ort to be ashamed Extra.

 

 

 "Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks".  You should check out the people you defend. It is you who should be ashamed.

 

Originally Posted by Extra-260:
Originally Posted by Pendra2010:

A whole lot of JUDGING coming from a preacher, especially since you've never met one soul your judging.. You ort to be ashamed Extra.

 

 

 "Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks".  You should check out the people you defend. It is you who should be ashamed.

 When you sheep mend your ways, I will apropriately mend my opinion of you. A tree is known by it's fruit, all your fruit is bad.

 

 

Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:

I used to have a lot of respect for Joy, no so much these days.

Extra, out of respect for you, you should know that rammlimn lies when the truth is a better story.  Don't take him at face value.  His original post here is not accurate.

 

DF

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Who are you kidding nsns you don't respect 360, he's a minister. The very people you hate.

Do you think he falls for your foolishness? Nawp not for a second.

          Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:

Extra,

 

You and I have always had a civil and intellectual dialog here.  I am disappointed that you have passed such a shallow-minded judgment on Joy.

 

DF

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Df

You and I have always had civil exchanges.

I’m disappointed that your first post over there on Joy’s forum was to blaspheme Jesus.

Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:

Extra,

 

You and I have always had a civil and intellectual dialog here.  I am disappointed that you have passed such a shallow-minded judgment on Joy.

 

DF

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 Maybe you should look at the sheep show on her blog before you say that. They are truly showing their colors to point that I need not say any more.

 

Originally Posted by Extra-260:
Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:

Extra,

 

You and I have always had a civil and intellectual dialog here.  I am disappointed that you have passed such a shallow-minded judgment on Joy.

 

DF

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 Maybe you should look at the sheep show on her blog before you say that. They are truly showing their colors to point that I need not say any more.

 

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 Look, I didn't trash Joy. It is on record that I have defended her many times in these forums. I only stated that my level of respect for her had diminished some because of the people she has now surrounded herself with. 

Playing ignorant about the BS is not becoming to you. You know who and what they are, you don't need me to point the finger.

 

 

 

Hate to break this to you extra 260, extra 360, jugflyer, but I was never part of that group, nor Monet's, don't give a flip about either one and no one has brought up anything at Joy's forum that is inappropriate.

 

Now if you want to start accusing me of something, then do so. I hate both sides and as long as no one brings it up in a post, I don't care. To accuse me of playing some infantile game with either side is BS. If you are a preacher, then thou should not gossip.

 

I don't know the members, don't care about the members and IF there are some people who post at Joy's forum that you find offensive, then don't read it. Just because you have judged someone to be below your standards of 'goodness', doesn't give you the right to decide who someone else should associate with.

 

Please point out those evil sheep for all the world to see. If you are so worried that they are evil, then report the forum. Ask magpie, he's knows exactly how since he already done so twice.
The only TRUE COLORS I have seen is a fake preacher judging others while behaving as a vindictive little man hiding behind a screen name. Joy nor I have ever said anything about you and as far as I know, you never bothered to make any comments on Sue's forum.

 

So if you think that the whole world gives a flip about your opinion, you are wrong. Joy started a forum. The policy is if you don't make waves you stay. Cause trouble you go. So far, I have not seen any trouble except form Ramm. Now if you want to be just like him, go ahead. If you are going to go low, might as well go all the way.

 

Unlike you, Joy can forgive and allows anyone in regardless of the past. As long as they know how to behave respectfully, we all have a good time.

 

I always knew you believed weird conspiracy theories, but I didn't know you were nuts too.

Criminal investigation, ram? LOL I checked with Chris Connoley's office and they didn't know nothing about it. Because of you and your friends "gossip" a bunch of us volunteers checked into it and got the real story. Seems your side don't have no facts. Just a mess of lies. Is Elvis your daddy too?

, but I didn't know you were nuts too.

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 So now is it personal between us? You now going to resort to namecalling? This a a severe response by you and others over my statemnt that my respect had diminished. I never said I had no respect for her. You folks indeed are showing your true colors, name calling and now threats.
 
 Yes, that is BS behavior. Continue, people need to know who they are dealing with in the forums.

Extra I don't know anything about any black sheep. I am not a member of that forum. Just this one. I have run across you in real life. You sure act different behind a screen name. You and Ramline are not a good witness for the Lord and you have to know that in your heart. Joy is.

And to Ramlin I use to go in the BP over on Huntsville Road and I seen you there more often that you should have been pickin' and grinnin' with TNT. Does Missus Ramline know about that? I'd say TNT has a lot more of why you threw Joy to the wolves than anything else. She paid you back that money she owes you yet?

Originally Posted by Extra-260:

, but I didn't know you were nuts too.

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 So now is it personal between us? You now going to resort to namecalling? This a a severe response by you and others over my statemnt that my respect had diminished. I never said I had no respect for her. You folks indeed are showing your true colors, name calling and now threats.
 
 Yes, that is BS behavior. Continue, people need to know who they are dealing with in the forums.

Namecalling?  I said you were nuts and a fake preacher. I did not make any threats. I don't know pendra2010 and don't care too.  I'm sure ramm is laughing so hard he choked on his whiskey last night.   Seems that whenever the BS or the Monet group gets into any thing, all that it leads to is pure trouble.

People can read our forum and make up their own mind. They don't need you telling them what YOU think the people are like.

Are you sure you are a preacher? Between you and ramm, I can understand why the atheists are atheists.

Originally Posted by b50m:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:

, but I didn't know you were nuts too.

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 So now is it personal between us? You now going to resort to namecalling? This a a severe response by you and others over my statemnt that my respect had diminished. I never said I had no respect for her. You folks indeed are showing your true colors, name calling and now threats.
 
 Yes, that is BS behavior. Continue, people need to know who they are dealing with in the forums.

Namecalling?  I said you were nuts and a fake preacher. I did not make any threats. I don't know pendra2010 and don't care too.  I'm sure ramm is laughing so hard he choked on his whiskey last night.   Seems that whenever the BS or the Monet group gets into any thing, all that it leads to is pure trouble.

People can read our forum and make up their own mind. They don't need you telling them what YOU think the people are like.

Are you sure you are a preacher? Between you and ramm, I can understand why the atheists are atheists.

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 Ha ha.  Your really something else. All I said was my respect for her had diminished some because she had welcomed many of the trouble making black sheep to her forum. For that I get insults, called a fake preacher, called nuts, and told by half your forum to KMA. (Yes thats posted at the Alabamian.)

 

 Stand back for a munute and look at yourselves.

 You condemn me, because I condemn those who took a picture off of a church website and turned it into an advertizement for s@x toys. Nice people you hang with.

 

Extra I don't know anything about any black sheep. I am not a member of that forum. Just this one. I have run across you in real life. You sure act different behind a screen name. You and Ramline are not a good witness for the Lord and you have to know that in your heart. Joy is.

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 Pendra,

 You already have your mind made up and there is little chance I will change it, but here goes.

 A year ago, Original bama took a picture of me off of a Church website and photo shopped it into a advertizement for s@x toys. Shoalanda loved it so much she posted her glee. this is still on his blog.

 These are the kind of people I have condemned. Now, you wanna call me a fake preacher, go right ahead. i have no desire to be a part of any forum with them until they change their ways. From the posts on the alabamian last night, they haven't cvhanged their ways.

 

 But you can continue to live in your own little dream world if you please.

Originally Posted by Extra-260:
Originally Posted by b50m:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:

, but I didn't know you were nuts too.

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 So now is it personal between us? You now going to resort to namecalling? This a a severe response by you and others over my statemnt that my respect had diminished. I never said I had no respect for her. You folks indeed are showing your true colors, name calling and now threats.
 
 Yes, that is BS behavior. Continue, people need to know who they are dealing with in the forums.

Namecalling?  I said you were nuts and a fake preacher. I did not make any threats. I don't know pendra2010 and don't care too.  I'm sure ramm is laughing so hard he choked on his whiskey last night.   Seems that whenever the BS or the Monet group gets into any thing, all that it leads to is pure trouble.

People can read our forum and make up their own mind. They don't need you telling them what YOU think the people are like.

Are you sure you are a preacher? Between you and ramm, I can understand why the atheists are atheists.

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 Ha ha.  Your really something else. All I said was my respect for her had diminished some because she had welcomed many of the trouble making black sheep to her forum. For that I get insults, called a fake preacher, called nuts, and told by half your forum to KMA. (Yes thats posted at the Alabamian.)

 

 Stand back for a munute and look at yourselves.

 You condemn me, because I condemn those who took a picture off of a church website and turned it into an advertizement for s@x toys. Nice people you hang with.

 

Since I DIDN"T KNOW THAT, because I have never seen that posted anywhere, you have a right to be angry, providing it's true.

Half told you to KMA?  We have 53 registered members, not counting all of Ramm's accounts that leaves about 43.  I saw three tell you that last night. So far, five has said they were part of the BS. Want to explain how 5 is half of 43?

 

No one said anything until you started this.

Originally Posted by Infomercial:

I don't read OB's blog or Shoalanda every day. Could you tell me just where OB posted this and where SS commented on it. So that I don't have to look? You can do that can't you?

 

 Go to his blog archive, september 19th last year. The comments by shoalanda and debra glass are at the bottom of that days post.

 

Originally Posted by Extra-260:
Originally Posted by Infomercial:

I don't read OB's blog or Shoalanda every day. Could you tell me just where OB posted this and where SS commented on it. So that I don't have to look? You can do that can't you?

 

 Go to his blog archive, september 19th last year. The comments by shoalanda and debra glass are at the bottom of that days post.

 

 

 

Okay I hadn't seen it. What's bad about the comments?

Debra Glass said: I've heard of blow up sheep but never a blow up ass.

Shoalanda Speaks said: Are you sure this isn't some dude from Las Vegas? You know, "Come on down to Pardner Pete's for the best *** in Nevada!"

 

Extra-260, I don't know nor do I care who is a member of any group nor do I need to know about any past issues those groups have had with each other.  I do believe I have said those exact words enough times that at some point, you should have remembered me saying them.

 

ANYone is welcome to join the Alabamian and they join by self activation.  The email comes to ALL members from forumotion, not from me, with a link you click on to activate your account.  Last time I checked, I do not own forumotion...lol...I made a test membership yesterday to see if it works and it works just fine.  I then posted the steps for any member having problems... http://alabamian.forumotion.co...-post-here-read-this .

 

If you need proof that ANYbody can join my forum, remember that Rram/Buff/Magpie was a member, a person who lied about me and kicked me off his forum after I tactfully asked to be removed as Admin due to a decision he made with which I could not be associated.  Do you really think that an Admin should act like an immature child, admitting or rejecting people (real people, mind you, with freakin' feelings!) like it's a clique in high school?  I strongly disagree.  Not only is it immature and discriminatory, God would surely frown on such an action, Preacher.  As I recall, Jesus hung out with some folks you would exclude from dinner.

" kicked me off his forum after I tactfully asked to be removed as Admin due to a decision he made with which I could not be associated. "

 

 I'm glad to see you do have your limits. It has restored some of my confidence in you.

 

 Yes, Jesus did eat with many undesirable people, most of whom were willing to change their ways. At the same time, there are many he didn't eat with.

Since I DIDN"T KNOW THAT, because I have never seen that posted anywhere, you have a right to be angry, providing it's true

 

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 so now, you take back the hateful things you said?

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:
Hi Magpie,

 

Personally, I agree with everything Joy has written in this post.  Where do you find a problem with it?

 

Her comment, "until God taught me that it's Savior and Lord"  -- would lead me to think that she leans toward a Lordship Theology, which tends to be sort of a "works related" theology.   And, I suppose I would lean more toward a Free Grace Theology which says we are saved by grace, through faith -- plus nothing else, no works.

 

Yet, the rest of Joy's post leads me to believe she also believes as I do about salvation.  So, possibly, that phrase "until God taught me that it's Savior and Lord" -- though it sounds like Lordship Theology -- may just be Joy's way of expressing her love for Jesus Christ.  Personally, I always say that He is my personal Lord and Savior.  And, that is basically what Joy has told us.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill


 

Thank you, but that's not what I believe.  I was taught all about Jesus being my Savior, but very little about Jesus being my Lord and what that entailed.  Thankfully, God saw fit to teach me what that meant. 

 

In my 20s, God tore down the wall I had built between me and everyone else in my life (including him), which I built to avoid being hurt again - I won't lie; that was a painful experience, but necessary.  One night, I finally gave up, bent my stubborn neck and let him take over in my life, his will replacing my own.  In that moment, he healed the wounds and filled the gaps in my soul with himself.  I didn't know the gaps were there until he filled them.  I was whole for the first time in my life.  I didn't even know what being whole meant before it happened to me. 

 

I serve him out of gratitude and love, because he did for me what no other could do.  He set me free.  Loving God and loving others is a natural overflow of the work he does in us.  That's why the Bible says that you will know us by our love.  If there is no love, there's a very good chance there is no Savior and Lord in that person's life.

Originally Posted by Extra-260:

" kicked me off his forum after I tactfully asked to be removed as Admin due to a decision he made with which I could not be associated. "

 

 I'm glad to see you do have your limits. It has restored some of my confidence in you.

 

 Yes, Jesus did eat with many undesirable people, most of whom were willing to change their ways. At the same time, there are many he didn't eat with.


 

With all due respect, what kind of rationale is that?  Either he dined with people who you feel are beneath you or he didn't.  Where in scripture did Jesus do as you insinuate?  Now, he got REAL ugly with some church leaders, but I think he even dined with a few of them on occasion.  Why did he get so ugly with those church leaders?  Do you recall?

 

Sorry...this brings out the little sister in me, Extra.

 

BTW, I do not accept Extra's assessment of anyone on my forum, this forum, any forum.  Unless someone gives me reason to think otherwise, I see them as a person.  However, if you start growing fangs or claws, you gotta go. *snicker*

I just used the search feature to see if there were any other lies by Magpie in need of a rebuttal link to my forum and it appears he is no longer with us.  As long as it stays that way, there will be no more need for rebuttal links.

 

Good job, TVT Admin.

Originally Posted by Extra-260:

Since I DIDN"T KNOW THAT, because I have never seen that posted anywhere, you have a right to be angry, providing it's true

 

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 so now, you take back the hateful things you said?

I'll take back fake preacher.  But as for those conspiracy theories, you're still nuts.

 

Joy is a friend, to let your comments slide about her would make me a fair weather friend.  I'm not.

Are we not to love the sinner but hate the sin? If people made mistakes in the past, they need to atone. To hold their past against them is wrong. Agreed?

Originally Posted by _Joy_:

I just used the search feature to see if there were any other lies by Magpie in need of a rebuttal link to my forum and it appears he is no longer with us.  As long as it stays that way, there will be no more need for rebuttal links.

 

Good job, TVT Admin.

He'll be back. Like a bad nightmare.

Originally Posted by b50m:
To hold their past against them is wrong. Agreed?

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I personally think "forgiveness " is highly overrated.  There are some things that are unforgivable. An assault on the good re****tion of a person like Joy who is the epitome of a Good Christian girl who actually walks the walk (unlike ANYONE else here) is simply unforgivable.

Originally Posted by Unobtanium:
Originally Posted by b50m:
To hold their past against them is wrong. Agreed?

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I personally think "forgiveness " is highly overrated.  There are some things that are unforgivable. An assault on the good re****tion of a person like Joy who is the epitome of a Good Christian girl who actually walks the walk (unlike ANYONE else here) is simply unforgivable.

 

 Unob,

 I never assaulted her re****tion, I just questioned her judgment. With that clarification, i give you the last word.

 

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