PS;

If you are over at Ramm's place then you have seen the language he uses when describing me and Joy.  You have seen him boast about he can take us down. You have seen his perverted comments. And yet, you are OK with that?  You must be one weird preacher man.

Originally Posted by b50m:

PS;

If you are over at Ramm's place then you have seen the language he uses when describing me and Joy.  You have seen him boast about he can take us down. You have seen his perverted comments. And yet, you are OK with that?  You must be one weird preacher man.

B50m, let's not insult each other OK?

 I actually still like you and Joy, I just disagree with some of your conclusions.

 The answer is yes, I logged in last night. Yes I read the threads.  No I am not comfortable with that kind of language, but then I'm not comfortable with the KMA's on your forum either, one of them aimed at me.

 I've provided plenty of links showing you that he is lying, yet you continue to defend him.  Please explain that.

 

 Joy,

specifically, what is he lying about. I've read your forum and haven't seen much about any exposing of ram other than the accusations that he is mentally deranged. Specifically, what is he lying about?

LOL, I take it back extra, you are dumb and a hypocrite.

 

Ramm has constantly lied about every one at Joy's foum. Accusing them of taking drugs, being exconvicts, me and Joy are *******s, having wild sex orgies, and on and on.

 

Really, extra, you are blind.

Actually bm5 JR came to Joy’s forum as an envoy of peace as did I. It was my intention to be friends but you kicked me off the first time for nothing and then YOU THREATENED TO CUT JR’s NUTS OFF. Now you lying little devil are trying to say his virtual nuts was what you meant. You little liar.

Originally Posted by b50m:

So you are not comfortable, yet you accuse Joy of consorting with evil at her forum.

 

OK, not weird, just a hypocrite Extra. You are associating with Ramm, and defending him, which makes you the same as him.

B50M,

 You have to log in to see Ramms forum, not so with Joy's.  Yes, I logged in, the first time in a year or more.  I had to log in to check your claims.  Any reasonable person can understand my need to get both sides.

Originally Posted by Extra-260:

 Christians than you will ever be with your hate.

 

Ramm,

 Let's try to keep the high road and not be inflammatory. One thing that Joy is not is hate filled.

 Well intentioned, but I believe a bit misinformed. She has been on the sidelines a good while and hasn't seen a lot that has gone on, and what she knows, she gets from only one side.

___________

Both "sides" in this train wreck are bat spit crazy.

As I have stated many times I have atheist friends that I care for but the species represented here are far beyond evil intentions. Anyone that consorts with these blasphemers of GOD the Father, Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit are no better.

They are up to no good.

Joy is the only Christian on any forum that gives me reason to give the entire enterprise of Christianity some slack.

 

I'm fixing to make it personal.  I'm fixing to give Joy some slack, and the rest of Christianity can go to the Hell it invented.

 

Whatever motivates Joy must bear some consideration.  Whatever motivates Extra and whatever Ramm calls himself these days must bear a most severe derision.  Joy exudes love, Extra and Ramm exude hatred.  If there is any introspection and humility in these men, they should examine Joy's outlook and learn something.  I have, and I have.

I suspect that the hatred that is most common in Christianity has poisoned their minds, however.  On average, Christianity is not a religion of love, but one of suspicion and hatred.  Christians are never happier than when they think themselves persecuted.  As if a country that is 80% Christian can persecute them.

 

I try to approach humankind with the default condition of love, and I'm largely successful.  I accuse Joy of the same.  I accuse Extra and Buffalo of the opposite, because of their bigotry.  I pity those two.

 

DF

I just wanted to say that I have never been to any of the other forums that are always being talked about with this particular troll. Also I have no idea who the "black sheep" are and I have no desire to EVER know. As far as I can tell, someone got ****ed off for being banned years ago and ever since then they've been on a quest to stalk and harass the person and people who they think did it. It really does sound like something a kid in a kindergarten class would do. How petty and irrational and bored can you be to really get into something like that?

I personally think all parties involved in this internet forum hate triangle should meet up somewhere locally and beat the hell out of each other and move on with their lives. Give it a rest already. We are SICK of hearing it on this forum. Take this crap elsewhere and get a life.

Thanks, NSNS.  I've always thought we had much in common, except for that one major thing...haha.  I had too much time on my hands this morning and ventured over...big mistake.  Y'all don't be strangers and come by the Alabamian to say "hi" occasionally.  TVT is a zoo with no keeper.  I need to make time for what is important.  Coming here and refuting Rram's latest lies should not even be on my list.  I hate it that we can't have intelligent discussion/debate like mature adults here, but that time is long gone.  Hopefully we'll talk again sometime.

Alas, there was a time when B50M and Fire loved poor rramn

 

Old Faithful
 
July 5, 2009 11:19 PM
 

I have to add the names of four others: Interventor, Howard Roark, Rramlinn, and Cookie. The first two I include for their remarkable political insights, and the second two for their scientific posts, although the antithesis of each other in their views. Also, one should not forget TSC, whose job seems to occupy entirely too much of her time at this point.

We seem to have lost several humorists over the past few months, either to occupational demands or banning, but Geddon does an excellent job in that department.

I think, all in all, at least 50% of our posters have unique takes and styles of posting that always make the forum compelling.
 
 
 
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Old Faithful
 
July 5, 2009 11:29 PM
 

Well said FV. I miss Howard. I hope he is safe somewhere in the world.

Inter, Ram and Cookey all have unique aspects on the world. A pleasure to read their replies. And argue with! Big Grin
 
quote:   Originally Posted by okuok:
Inter, Ram and Cookey all have unique aspects on the world.  A pleasure to read their replies. And argue with!

Hi OK,

 

In mentioning all these names -- one must keep in mind that "Cookey" (or, as I preferred "Kooky") was just one of the MANY posting names for our dear old Friend, Fish.   Over the years, he had more names than Shirley Maclaine has dresses.  Some because he so often got his butt in a wringer with the Mods; others, because he loved to create new names and talk with himself -- to make folks believe that someone, besides Deep, agreed with him.

 

The only person who could match Fish in the names department was good old Al Williams, who was everyone from a Girl In Malibu to who knows what or when.  Of course, Al's imposters were totally for the purpose of talking with himself -- for even Deep laughed at Al's Urantia Book religion.

 

Just another stroll down Memory Lane!

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

In mentioning all these names -- one must keep in mind that "Cookey" (or, as I preferred "Kooky") was just one of the MANY posting names for our dear old Friend, Fish.   Over the years, he had more names than Shirley Maclaine has dresses.  Some because he so often got his butt in a wringer with the Mods; others, because he loved to create new names and talk with himself -- to make folks believe that someone, besides Deep, agreed with him.

 

 

Oh, like you bill? You and your "atta boy" personas? Isn't it about time for them to show up?

Hi Jennifer,

 

My Friend, if you will check with Joy, Deep, and other Forum Friends who have been around for a while; you will find that I have never used another posting name.

 

In the beginning, the TD Mod suggested that I stop using my real name.  But, I explained that I am on the Forum for only one reason -- and that is to share God's Word.  I would not feel right sharing His Word under any name but my own.  So, for over five years -- on the TD Forums, I have only been Bill Gray.

 

Once I did get banned for a week for a PM disagreement with Fish.  Not wanting to use a different name -- I stayed away for that week, concentrated on my Friends Ministry and The Conservative Voice writings and weathered the week ban.

 

After that, I made sure that I did not write something which could be misconstrued or twisted to make it look bad, as Fish did in that instance -- and have gone along merrily posting under my real name, Bill Gray.

 

Once Fish tried to pull a Buffalo and use a name which looked like mine, i.e., Bill.Gray --and began to post offensive things.  But, the Mods quickly corrected his error in judgment. 

 

So, my Friend, with Bill Gray -- what you see is what you get!

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

My Friend, if you will check with Joy, Deep, and other Forum Friends who have been around for a while; you will find that I have never used another posting name.

 

 

 

Like they'd know? LOL, bill you know very well you have at least two if not more names you run out to give you a big old "atta boy" then they go away until you need them again.

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

       
quote:   Originally Posted by okuok:
Inter, Ram and Cookey all have unique aspects on the world.  A pleasure to read their replies. And argue with!

Hi OK,

In mentioning all these names -- one must keep in mind that "Cookey" (or, as I preferred "Kooky") was just one of the MANY posting names for our dear old Friend, Fish.   Over the years, he had more names than Shirley Maclaine has dresses.  Some because he so often got his butt in a wringer with the Mods; others, because he loved to create new names and talk with himself -- to make folks believe that someone, besides Deep, agreed with him.

The only person who could match Fish in the names department was good old Al Williams, who was everyone from a Girl In Malibu to who knows what or when.  Of course, Al's imposters were totally for the purpose of talking with himself -- for even Deep laughed at Al's Urantia Book religion.

Just another stroll down Memory Lane!

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill


Wow, Bill I didn't realize he's(Rramm) been doing this for that many years. I've only been on this forum for 3 years(actually 2 years as the first year I didn't post) and I've seen just how crazy he is with all the lies and cover ups and the blaming innocent people for stuff they know nothing about but had no idea it had been going on for so long. Must be tough to be so unliked and to be so avoided by people that you can never be just "who you are". To always have to hide behind layers and layers of lies and deception just to get people to like you or to listen to your rambling or to even take you seriously anymore(and that never last long because they eventually find out who you really are). That's sad. I almost feel sorry for the old dude. Is sorta telling though in that he's probably ran everyone in the real world away... even family.

Somehow I still can't feel sorry for him though. He's done it all to himself. He only has himself to blame.

Darkreamer Rram don’t lie I can tell you that for sure. You don’t have the knowledge to know if a pre-schooler is lying so don’t fancy yourself to be anything on here other than a puissant at a picnic.

You lied about the tags so as far as you are concerned you are just a liar with no balls.

quote:    Originally Posted by Jennifer Bestworking:

I'm confused.  How did the TD know you were using your real name and just where and to who did you "explain" why you were?  Very odd.


Hi Jennifer,

 

How do the TimesDaily Mods, or at least the past ones, know my real name?   Good question.  I have talked with them via telephone, communicated with them via e-mail, and via Private Messages. 

 

In the early days, I had a signature which included my real name, e-mail address, etc. -- because I wanted to be accessible to anyone who had a desire to discuss the Word of God.  I have done this on all the venues on which I have written.   And, when I talked with the TD Mod I assured him that this is a personal choice I have made.  He was comfortable with this, for he told me that in reading my posts he had never seen me being argumentative with other members.

 

Unfortunately, on the TimesDaily Religion Forum -- posting this info did backfire on me -- for I under-estimated the degree of animosity and vindictiveness I would encounter here.  And, sure enough, like you always want to drag people's families into the discussion -- my old nemesis, Fish, went even further.  He attempted to send an e-mail to my wife telling her that he was a woman with whom I had an affair at a computer convention.

 

This was dumb (even though I suppose it made sense to Fish) for two reasons.  First, it was my e-mail address and not my wife's.   But, I did show it to her.  She got a big laugh from it.

 

Second, she always traveled with me to all the conventions.  We always liked to mix work with pleasure -- sort of like a special vacation.  After a while, when we walked around the convention, more folks knew her than knew me -- and, it was my computer convention.  Walking around the convention, people would call out greetings to her, "Hi Dory, how's the real estate business?"

 

So, there is no way, even if I were so inclined, that I could have had an affair.  I was having too much fun with my wife; we were having our own special little affair -- in Boston, Houston, Dallas, San Diego, Los Angeles,  San Francisco, and many other cities. 

 

And, as a clincher, I still have lots of family living in the Shoals area -- and Friends on the Religion Forum who know some of my family members.   Regardless of where I write -- it is always and only -- just little old Bill Gray.

 

Also, there are Religion Forum members, past and present, who receive my Friends Ministry eNewsletter.  As a matter of fact, if anyone is interested in being put on my mail list, let's communicate via Private Message and share e-mail addresses.  I will be happy to add you to my mail list -- anyone.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

OK bill, so you put your private information in a public forum and then cried like a little girl when someone used it against you. That's when you talked to the TD. I guess they did tell you if you were stupid enough to do it to go for it. Now then, let's talk about your statement that I'm bringing your family into it. Maybe I should have them look at your posts and mine to see where I have done that in any way that is wrong. I am sick of you putting your business in here and then accusing me and some others of attacking or "bringing your family" into it just because we post "your wife", or "your grandchildren" in a comment.

 

You are constantly posting about your "filipino" wife, your grandchildren, and putting other people's names in here. You put so much personal info in here it's like you're begging someone to "do something" so you can cry about it, or get them banned, so just who do you think you are to insinuate that I am somehow bringing your family into anything?

 

If I or anyone else couldn't mention our husband or wife without putting their race or ethnic background in the statement people would finally begin to notice and wonder what I was doing. So naturally people wonder about you and ask you what's the deal, are we supposed to be impressed or what? Judging by all the mixed couples I see I'd say it's no big deal to marry someone of a different race. Now if you take that as "bringing your family" into anything it's all on you. So don't brag on the one hand that you use your own name and information and cry on the other that someone has bothered you because of it.

 

 

Now bill I'm going to tell you a story. When I was growing up people would send pictures of their children to the TCD newspaper to post on the Happy Birthday page. I don't know if they still do that or not, I'll have to check. Anyway, my cousins parents sent her picture in. They gave all the information of course, child's name, parent's name her dob. Some sick sob called my cousin's mother and started telling her how he had seen her picture in the paper, and all the sexual things he wanted to do to the child. Of course she hung up but not before he'd made a sick comment. My cousin was about six at the time. This was before caller ID and when most everyone had their phone number listed in the phone book.  In one of the threads you started you post that there is a 2 year old that needs prayer and you give the child's name and other information. Now let's suppose some sick sob reading this forum takes that information and starts harassing the family. Whose fault would that be bill? And remember, there is at least one person posting here that is twisted beyond belief and you know who I mean. 

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