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After months of exile and after several attempts [unbeknown to Deep] by mine own self petitioning TD to un-ban the ole feller failed Joy has by main-strength and awkwardness resurrected him.

 

 

Quote by Joy:

“Hey, I changed the troll that used your name to another name so that I could change your name to DeepFat. Clear as mud? Anyhoo, I'll send you an email and a PM at TVT to tell you as well so you will know to sign in as "DeepFat" now. Whoop whoop”

 

 

Note: I don’t know what Whoop Whoop means.lol

Joy it is only ****ing that you make deep an admin.

A pair of matched mules pulling to destroy a belief in God.

Joy you have taken the devil into your bosom.

Original Post
Originally Posted by Ronnie P.:
Originally Posted by Pendra2010:

Shut up, Rrammlin. Talk about resurrections. You're the king of it.

I've been Ronnie P. for several years.  Before that I was Ron Plexisising, same account I just changed the name so yeah......

 

I think Penda meant Magpie, he was rramlin and a lot of others from what I can ascertain. Apparently all Joy did was make sure a poster got to use his longtime screen name. I think I'll head over there and register now. Sounds like good people.

ronnie,

This was the idiot's first post over there:

Saved from what?

Hi, y'all, it's me, DeepFat. Your friendly neighborhood atheist.

Seriously, there must be some distress from which you must be "saved". The orthodox reason is Original Sin from the story of Adam and Eve, but I won't insult you with the notion that you believe that. It's obviously metaphorical for the imperfect nature of the human condition.

That leaves us with the realization that humans are imperfect. So what? The better ones among try to lead good lives, the worse among us try to do evil, lots of people just muddle along and the world is no better or worse for their existence.

From what do we ALL need vicarious redemption? Nothing. We are the creatures we are, either created or evolved.

The essential story of Jesus is therefor nullified. There is no Original Sin, this much is clear, and for the imperfect nature of humans, we only have God to blame. Or not. In either case, there is no reason for universal salvation. It's a farce, and a fraud.

We're having some fun now, eh?

 

 

THE ABOVE IN RESPONSE TO JOY'S POST:

I am positive I am saved.

I feel the Holy Spirit's conviction when I do something outside of God's will, his joy when I do something in God's will, his filling when I cannot do something by myself, his intervention when I am about to do something harmful to me or another person, his revelation and power when I read scripture or pray and I had a supernatural experience when I surrendered in my late 20s. I asked Christ to be my Savior, accepted him as Savior at age ten, but did not know about the surrender part until God taught me that it's Savior and Lord...so I did that in my late 20s.

God has never left me, even when I was acting a fool as a teen. He never let me enjoy my sinful lifestyle. I was miserable until I turned away from that and began to follow his will for my life. I have been saved since the moment I asked him to save me at age 10. His presence is all over and in my life. I believe his word is true because of the power it has when spoken by me or anyone else...therefore the promises within are true as well. No one can snatch me from the Father's hand, including me. All of the above is why I am positive that the moment I am absent from the body, I will be present with the Savior.
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Tell me that ain't weird.
 
 

1. Joy fixed his account so he could log in as DeepFat since some ahole here stole his name.

2. He is not an admin. nor a moderator.

3. The same ahole has nothing to do but copy and paste from another forum since his is dead.

4. The forum he copies and paste from is open to the public unlike his own.

 

July 12, 2011 9:31 PM
 

 

BTW Joy I guess you were too dumb to figgger it out but I didn’t want on your forum to begin with.

 

Remember buffs signature “welcome buff glad you are here [joy] “

 

You never even recognized that was sarcasm.

 

What would the average citizen post over there anyone would care about reading? Huh

 

You and your religious insanity must be a real trip for others.

 

Well you got Bill over there now this autta be interesting. Lol

 

I can get on that ‘too wide forum any time I wish” but I hate to scroll sidewise to read a post.

 

So goodbye E. for now over there.

 

 

If only you had meant that.  "SIGH"

Originally Posted by b50m:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:

I used to have a lot of respect for Joy, no so much these days.

What's your problem with Joy?

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 Looks like she's decided to go all in with the black sheep on her new forum. Sorry, I don't do sheep or those who hang with them. When you have Shoalanda plugging your website, you know you've hit a new low. I never thought she'd go that way, i thought she had more principle.

Say what?

 

Who is Blacksheep?  Sholanda plugs The Best of Shoals as well, ramm's site.

 

I'm not a sheep, Joy is not, and as far as i know, it has never been mentioned on the site. Heck, even JR is in there now. He's from the OTHER side.

 

What is your real problem extra?  You were part of Sue's. If you can show me where anyone mentioned blacksheep, let me know.

Originally Posted by Extra-260:
Originally Posted by b50m:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:

I used to have a lot of respect for Joy, no so much these days.

What's your problem with Joy?

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 Looks like she's decided to go all in with the black sheep on her new forum. Sorry, I don't do sheep or those who hang with them. When you have Shoalanda plugging your website, you know you've hit a new low. I never thought she'd go that way, i thought she had more principle.

 

 I promise you this/Joy has nothing to do with the black sheep. As far as it concerns you, there is no black sheep!

Originally Posted by Magpie:

Not my intention atall Gus.

I don’t try and make anyone look bad.

Who are you campaigning for anyhow?

 

 

 I will be voting for the one who speaks the truth, does not step on other's toe's. Does not deliver hatred messages trying to turn other's away from one. Is not obsessed with discrediting people just because they do not agree with her.Last but not least the one who is not a sexist! 

My vote will be for Joy of course!

Originally Posted by Magpie:
Joy wrote:   I am positive I am saved.  I feel the Holy Spirit's conviction when I do something outside of God's will, his joy when I do something in God's will, his filling when I cannot do something by myself, his intervention when I am about to do something harmful to me or another person, his revelation and power when I read scripture or pray and I had a supernatural experience when I surrendered in my late 20s. I asked Christ to be my Savior, accepted him as Savior at age ten, but did not know about the surrender part until God taught me that it's Savior and Lord...so I did that in my late 20s.

God has never left me, even when I was acting a fool as a teen. He never let me enjoy my sinful lifestyle. I was miserable until I turned away from that and began to follow his will for my life. I have been saved since the moment I asked him to save me at age 10. His presence is all over and in my life. I believe his word is true because of the power it has when spoken by me or anyone else...therefore the promises within are true as well. No one can snatch me from the Father's hand, including me. All of the above is why I am positive that the moment I am absent from the body, I will be present with the Savior. [/quote]

Hi Magpie,

 

Personally, I agree with everything Joy has written in this post.  Where do you find a problem with it?

 

Her comment, "until God taught me that it's Savior and Lord"  -- would lead me to think that she leans toward a Lordship Theology, which tends to be sort of a "works related" theology.   And, I suppose I would lean more toward a Free Grace Theology which says we are saved by grace, through faith -- plus nothing else, no works.

 

Yet, the rest of Joy's post leads me to believe she also believes as I do about salvation.  So, possibly, that phrase "until God taught me that it's Savior and Lord" -- though it sounds like Lordship Theology -- may just be Joy's way of expressing her love for Jesus Christ.  Personally, I always say that He is my personal Lord and Savior.  And, that is basically what Joy has told us.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Originally Posted by unclegus:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:
Originally Posted by b50m:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:

I used to have a lot of respect for Joy, no so much these days.

What's your problem with Joy?

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 Looks like she's decided to go all in with the black sheep on her new forum. Sorry, I don't do sheep or those who hang with them. When you have Shoalanda plugging your website, you know you've hit a new low. I never thought she'd go that way, i thought she had more principle.

 

 I promise you this/Joy has nothing to do with the black sheep. As far as it concerns you, there is no black sheep!

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 Gus, hows the pilot light business these days?

Originally Posted by Pendra2010:

Extra is so typical of Christians around here, jumping to conclusions and judging people he's never met. He has partaken of the kool-aid. Those people you defend are claiming Elvis is their daddy and that there's werewolfs running aorund and that they've been abducted by aliens. Birds of a feather sure flock together.

Well there you have it sportsfans. It all goes back to the hatred of Sweetwater by the blacksheep. Don't forget Gus i was a member of the Blacksheep. once upon a time.I know all about their subversive acts and Gus , remember when you were gun totin  security for the blacksheep?

Originally Posted by b50m:

Say what?

 

Who is Blacksheep?  Sholanda plugs The Best of Shoals as well, ramm's site.

 

I'm not a sheep, Joy is not, and as far as i know, it has never been mentioned on the site. Heck, even JR is in there now. He's from the OTHER side.

 

What is your real problem extra?  You were part of Sue's. If you can show me where anyone mentioned blacksheep, let me know.

 

 

 LMM,

 I've been to the site, it's eat up with BS. I'm not a member of Ramms club, I can proudly say I was kicked out, for nothing, I didn't post there.

Originally Posted by Pendra2010:

Extra is so typical of Christians around here, jumping to conclusions and judging people he's never met. He has partaken of the kool-aid. Those people you defend are claiming Elvis is their daddy and that there's werewolfs running aorund and that they've been abducted by aliens. Birds of a feather sure flock together.

 

Pendra, when it comes to private property I am very libertarian. What people do on private property is their business and none of yours. If you don't like it, stay away from it, problem solved.

 If they want to start a crazy farm, then by all means let em.

 

Originally Posted by Road Puppy:

Hey, HEY, now....

 

The yankee needs some hatin' too.....

 

 

Youse're all a couple bricks shy of a patio.

 

 

 

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 Lol, that cause we got it one piece at a time from where we work.

 

 

Could you please point out the evil ones, because I don't ask that question on the application. JR was not refused. He never got signed up the first time, just like Bill never got his confimation. That has happened a lot.

 

Since I was not one of those and don't keep a list of who's who, I don't know who is and isn't. Why don't you tell me who all of them are?

 

 LMM,

 I've been to the site, it's eat up with BS. I'm not a member of Ramms club, I can proudly say I was kicked out, for nothing, I didn't post there.


JR-- Perfect, he was refused membership at first. How many BS have been refused at Alabamian?

 


As for Sholanda, here:


Thursday, March 12, 2009

Best of the Shoals Forum

 


Another new forum? Yes, and we think you'll like it. The newest forum in the Shoals area is Best of the Shoals, and the appellation fits. So, why is it best?

Obviously best is subjective, but BOS does offer some rather unusual and innovative categories. Has the downturn in the economy generated a vegetable garden in your backyard? Then BOS has a category for you. Like to write? You guessed it, BOS has a special place reserved for your literary efforts.

For those die hard news fans, there's a traditional news category, but BOS is more concerned with helping its members grow and reach their full potential than it is about debate. Oh, did I mention humor? Obviously, you'll find quite a bit of it also:

http://shoalsbest.forumotion.n...ogin.forum?connexion

Ramlimn/magpie I don't hate sweetwater. I was one of the volunteers who saw you try to take over and sit on the porch pickin' and grinnin'. The last time I was there you were rolling in the hay with that crackpot director fancying yourself a plantation gentleman watching us free labor (slaves) work our fingers to the bone for nothing. Nothing we were promised was ever done for that place. You were right in there with that hate group and your just as jealous as the rest of them of anybody who's got more than you.

Pen, I’ve never volunteered labor on a historic property in my life. That’s how I’ve made my living.

I’m not going to do any manual labor and not get paid on any historical property. I’m retired and my shop is closed so don’t accuse me of anything but sittin on my lazy azz pick’in and grin’n

Free advice as to proper restoration, yes I’ll give that free.

Yea you’all did work your fingers to the bone. I saw that. A lot of the work was all that tacky $Η± strewn around the yard[ which I insisted they remove] but as long as no one touches the house proper in any manner that would be counter to guidelines of The Alabama Historical Commission then I wont have to be up anyone’s ŧ§ with a pichfork now will I?

 

You had fun out there too. I saw that.

Originally Posted by b50m:

 

Could you please point out the evil ones, because I don't ask that question on the application. JR was not refused. He never got signed up the first time, just like Bill never got his confimation. That has happened a lot.

 

Since I was not one of those and don't keep a list of who's who, I don't know who is and isn't. Why don't you tell me who all of them are?

 

 LMM,

 I've been to the site, it's eat up with BS. I'm not a member of Ramms club, I can proudly say I was kicked out, for nothing, I didn't post there.


JR-- Perfect, he was refused membership at first. How many BS have been refused at Alabamian?

 


As for Sholanda, here:


Thursday, March 12, 2009

Best of the Shoals Forum

 


Another new forum? Yes, and we think you'll like it. The newest forum in the Shoals area is Best of the Shoals, and the appellation fits. So, why is it best?

Obviously best is subjective, but BOS does offer some rather unusual and innovative categories. Has the downturn in the economy generated a vegetable garden in your backyard? Then BOS has a category for you. Like to write? You guessed it, BOS has a special place reserved for your literary efforts.

For those die hard news fans, there's a traditional news category, but BOS is more concerned with helping its members grow and reach their full potential than it is about debate. Oh, did I mention humor? Obviously, you'll find quite a bit of it also:

http://shoalsbest.forumotion.n...ogin.forum?connexion

 

 

 

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 That's from over 2 years ago and I'm not a member of BOS.

 Playing ignorant about the BS is not becoming to you. You know who and what they are, you don't need me to point the finger.

 

Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:

I used to have a lot of respect for Joy, no so much these days.

Extra, out of respect for you, you should know that rammlimn lies when the truth is a better story.  Don't take him at face value.  His original post here is not accurate.

 

DF

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 Deep,

 My post did not take any special regards to the opening post nor towards you. It was a commentary concerning many of the people she surrounds herself with these days. A casual scan of the forum in question now confirms my previous statement. The sheep, plainly stated, are trash without class.

 

Originally Posted by Extra-260:
Originally Posted by Pendra2010:

A whole lot of JUDGING coming from a preacher, especially since you've never met one soul your judging.. You ort to be ashamed Extra.

 

 

 "Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks".  You should check out the people you defend. It is you who should be ashamed.

 When you sheep mend your ways, I will apropriately mend my opinion of you. A tree is known by it's fruit, all your fruit is bad.

 

 

Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:

I used to have a lot of respect for Joy, no so much these days.

Extra, out of respect for you, you should know that rammlimn lies when the truth is a better story.  Don't take him at face value.  His original post here is not accurate.

 

DF

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Who are you kidding nsns you don't respect 360, he's a minister. The very people you hate.

Do you think he falls for your foolishness? Nawp not for a second.

          Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:

Extra,

 

You and I have always had a civil and intellectual dialog here.  I am disappointed that you have passed such a shallow-minded judgment on Joy.

 

DF

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Df

You and I have always had civil exchanges.

I’m disappointed that your first post over there on Joy’s forum was to blaspheme Jesus.

Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:

Extra,

 

You and I have always had a civil and intellectual dialog here.  I am disappointed that you have passed such a shallow-minded judgment on Joy.

 

DF

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 Maybe you should look at the sheep show on her blog before you say that. They are truly showing their colors to point that I need not say any more.

 

Originally Posted by Extra-260:
Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:

Extra,

 

You and I have always had a civil and intellectual dialog here.  I am disappointed that you have passed such a shallow-minded judgment on Joy.

 

DF

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 Maybe you should look at the sheep show on her blog before you say that. They are truly showing their colors to point that I need not say any more.

 

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 Look, I didn't trash Joy. It is on record that I have defended her many times in these forums. I only stated that my level of respect for her had diminished some because of the people she has now surrounded herself with. 

Playing ignorant about the BS is not becoming to you. You know who and what they are, you don't need me to point the finger.

 

 

 

Hate to break this to you extra 260, extra 360, jugflyer, but I was never part of that group, nor Monet's, don't give a flip about either one and no one has brought up anything at Joy's forum that is inappropriate.

 

Now if you want to start accusing me of something, then do so. I hate both sides and as long as no one brings it up in a post, I don't care. To accuse me of playing some infantile game with either side is BS. If you are a preacher, then thou should not gossip.

 

I don't know the members, don't care about the members and IF there are some people who post at Joy's forum that you find offensive, then don't read it. Just because you have judged someone to be below your standards of 'goodness', doesn't give you the right to decide who someone else should associate with.

 

Please point out those evil sheep for all the world to see. If you are so worried that they are evil, then report the forum. Ask magpie, he's knows exactly how since he already done so twice.
The only TRUE COLORS I have seen is a fake preacher judging others while behaving as a vindictive little man hiding behind a screen name. Joy nor I have ever said anything about you and as far as I know, you never bothered to make any comments on Sue's forum.

 

So if you think that the whole world gives a flip about your opinion, you are wrong. Joy started a forum. The policy is if you don't make waves you stay. Cause trouble you go. So far, I have not seen any trouble except form Ramm. Now if you want to be just like him, go ahead. If you are going to go low, might as well go all the way.

 

Unlike you, Joy can forgive and allows anyone in regardless of the past. As long as they know how to behave respectfully, we all have a good time.

 

I always knew you believed weird conspiracy theories, but I didn't know you were nuts too.

, but I didn't know you were nuts too.

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 So now is it personal between us? You now going to resort to namecalling? This a a severe response by you and others over my statemnt that my respect had diminished. I never said I had no respect for her. You folks indeed are showing your true colors, name calling and now threats.
 
 Yes, that is BS behavior. Continue, people need to know who they are dealing with in the forums.

Extra I don't know anything about any black sheep. I am not a member of that forum. Just this one. I have run across you in real life. You sure act different behind a screen name. You and Ramline are not a good witness for the Lord and you have to know that in your heart. Joy is.

And to Ramlin I use to go in the BP over on Huntsville Road and I seen you there more often that you should have been pickin' and grinnin' with TNT. Does Missus Ramline know about that? I'd say TNT has a lot more of why you threw Joy to the wolves than anything else. She paid you back that money she owes you yet?

Originally Posted by Extra-260:

, but I didn't know you were nuts too.

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 So now is it personal between us? You now going to resort to namecalling? This a a severe response by you and others over my statemnt that my respect had diminished. I never said I had no respect for her. You folks indeed are showing your true colors, name calling and now threats.
 
 Yes, that is BS behavior. Continue, people need to know who they are dealing with in the forums.

Namecalling?  I said you were nuts and a fake preacher. I did not make any threats. I don't know pendra2010 and don't care too.  I'm sure ramm is laughing so hard he choked on his whiskey last night.   Seems that whenever the BS or the Monet group gets into any thing, all that it leads to is pure trouble.

People can read our forum and make up their own mind. They don't need you telling them what YOU think the people are like.

Are you sure you are a preacher? Between you and ramm, I can understand why the atheists are atheists.

Originally Posted by b50m:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:

, but I didn't know you were nuts too.

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 So now is it personal between us? You now going to resort to namecalling? This a a severe response by you and others over my statemnt that my respect had diminished. I never said I had no respect for her. You folks indeed are showing your true colors, name calling and now threats.
 
 Yes, that is BS behavior. Continue, people need to know who they are dealing with in the forums.

Namecalling?  I said you were nuts and a fake preacher. I did not make any threats. I don't know pendra2010 and don't care too.  I'm sure ramm is laughing so hard he choked on his whiskey last night.   Seems that whenever the BS or the Monet group gets into any thing, all that it leads to is pure trouble.

People can read our forum and make up their own mind. They don't need you telling them what YOU think the people are like.

Are you sure you are a preacher? Between you and ramm, I can understand why the atheists are atheists.

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 Ha ha.  Your really something else. All I said was my respect for her had diminished some because she had welcomed many of the trouble making black sheep to her forum. For that I get insults, called a fake preacher, called nuts, and told by half your forum to KMA. (Yes thats posted at the Alabamian.)

 

 Stand back for a munute and look at yourselves.

 You condemn me, because I condemn those who took a picture off of a church website and turned it into an advertizement for s@x toys. Nice people you hang with.

 

Extra I don't know anything about any black sheep. I am not a member of that forum. Just this one. I have run across you in real life. You sure act different behind a screen name. You and Ramline are not a good witness for the Lord and you have to know that in your heart. Joy is.

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 Pendra,

 You already have your mind made up and there is little chance I will change it, but here goes.

 A year ago, Original bama took a picture of me off of a Church website and photo shopped it into a advertizement for s@x toys. Shoalanda loved it so much she posted her glee. this is still on his blog.

 These are the kind of people I have condemned. Now, you wanna call me a fake preacher, go right ahead. i have no desire to be a part of any forum with them until they change their ways. From the posts on the alabamian last night, they haven't cvhanged their ways.

 

 But you can continue to live in your own little dream world if you please.

Originally Posted by Extra-260:
Originally Posted by b50m:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:

, but I didn't know you were nuts too.

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 So now is it personal between us? You now going to resort to namecalling? This a a severe response by you and others over my statemnt that my respect had diminished. I never said I had no respect for her. You folks indeed are showing your true colors, name calling and now threats.
 
 Yes, that is BS behavior. Continue, people need to know who they are dealing with in the forums.

Namecalling?  I said you were nuts and a fake preacher. I did not make any threats. I don't know pendra2010 and don't care too.  I'm sure ramm is laughing so hard he choked on his whiskey last night.   Seems that whenever the BS or the Monet group gets into any thing, all that it leads to is pure trouble.

People can read our forum and make up their own mind. They don't need you telling them what YOU think the people are like.

Are you sure you are a preacher? Between you and ramm, I can understand why the atheists are atheists.

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 Ha ha.  Your really something else. All I said was my respect for her had diminished some because she had welcomed many of the trouble making black sheep to her forum. For that I get insults, called a fake preacher, called nuts, and told by half your forum to KMA. (Yes thats posted at the Alabamian.)

 

 Stand back for a munute and look at yourselves.

 You condemn me, because I condemn those who took a picture off of a church website and turned it into an advertizement for s@x toys. Nice people you hang with.

 

Since I DIDN"T KNOW THAT, because I have never seen that posted anywhere, you have a right to be angry, providing it's true.

Half told you to KMA?  We have 53 registered members, not counting all of Ramm's accounts that leaves about 43.  I saw three tell you that last night. So far, five has said they were part of the BS. Want to explain how 5 is half of 43?

 

No one said anything until you started this.

Originally Posted by Infomercial:

I don't read OB's blog or Shoalanda every day. Could you tell me just where OB posted this and where SS commented on it. So that I don't have to look? You can do that can't you?

 

 Go to his blog archive, september 19th last year. The comments by shoalanda and debra glass are at the bottom of that days post.

 

Originally Posted by Extra-260:
Originally Posted by Infomercial:

I don't read OB's blog or Shoalanda every day. Could you tell me just where OB posted this and where SS commented on it. So that I don't have to look? You can do that can't you?

 

 Go to his blog archive, september 19th last year. The comments by shoalanda and debra glass are at the bottom of that days post.

 

 

 

Okay I hadn't seen it. What's bad about the comments?

Debra Glass said: I've heard of blow up sheep but never a blow up ass.

Shoalanda Speaks said: Are you sure this isn't some dude from Las Vegas? You know, "Come on down to Pardner Pete's for the best *** in Nevada!"

 

Extra-260, I don't know nor do I care who is a member of any group nor do I need to know about any past issues those groups have had with each other.  I do believe I have said those exact words enough times that at some point, you should have remembered me saying them.

 

ANYone is welcome to join the Alabamian and they join by self activation.  The email comes to ALL members from forumotion, not from me, with a link you click on to activate your account.  Last time I checked, I do not own forumotion...lol...I made a test membership yesterday to see if it works and it works just fine.  I then posted the steps for any member having problems... http://alabamian.forumotion.co...-post-here-read-this .

 

If you need proof that ANYbody can join my forum, remember that Rram/Buff/Magpie was a member, a person who lied about me and kicked me off his forum after I tactfully asked to be removed as Admin due to a decision he made with which I could not be associated.  Do you really think that an Admin should act like an immature child, admitting or rejecting people (real people, mind you, with freakin' feelings!) like it's a clique in high school?  I strongly disagree.  Not only is it immature and discriminatory, God would surely frown on such an action, Preacher.  As I recall, Jesus hung out with some folks you would exclude from dinner.

" kicked me off his forum after I tactfully asked to be removed as Admin due to a decision he made with which I could not be associated. "

 

 I'm glad to see you do have your limits. It has restored some of my confidence in you.

 

 Yes, Jesus did eat with many undesirable people, most of whom were willing to change their ways. At the same time, there are many he didn't eat with.

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:
Hi Magpie,

 

Personally, I agree with everything Joy has written in this post.  Where do you find a problem with it?

 

Her comment, "until God taught me that it's Savior and Lord"  -- would lead me to think that she leans toward a Lordship Theology, which tends to be sort of a "works related" theology.   And, I suppose I would lean more toward a Free Grace Theology which says we are saved by grace, through faith -- plus nothing else, no works.

 

Yet, the rest of Joy's post leads me to believe she also believes as I do about salvation.  So, possibly, that phrase "until God taught me that it's Savior and Lord" -- though it sounds like Lordship Theology -- may just be Joy's way of expressing her love for Jesus Christ.  Personally, I always say that He is my personal Lord and Savior.  And, that is basically what Joy has told us.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill


 

Thank you, but that's not what I believe.  I was taught all about Jesus being my Savior, but very little about Jesus being my Lord and what that entailed.  Thankfully, God saw fit to teach me what that meant. 

 

In my 20s, God tore down the wall I had built between me and everyone else in my life (including him), which I built to avoid being hurt again - I won't lie; that was a painful experience, but necessary.  One night, I finally gave up, bent my stubborn neck and let him take over in my life, his will replacing my own.  In that moment, he healed the wounds and filled the gaps in my soul with himself.  I didn't know the gaps were there until he filled them.  I was whole for the first time in my life.  I didn't even know what being whole meant before it happened to me. 

 

I serve him out of gratitude and love, because he did for me what no other could do.  He set me free.  Loving God and loving others is a natural overflow of the work he does in us.  That's why the Bible says that you will know us by our love.  If there is no love, there's a very good chance there is no Savior and Lord in that person's life.

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Originally Posted by Extra-260:

" kicked me off his forum after I tactfully asked to be removed as Admin due to a decision he made with which I could not be associated. "

 

 I'm glad to see you do have your limits. It has restored some of my confidence in you.

 

 Yes, Jesus did eat with many undesirable people, most of whom were willing to change their ways. At the same time, there are many he didn't eat with.


 

With all due respect, what kind of rationale is that?  Either he dined with people who you feel are beneath you or he didn't.  Where in scripture did Jesus do as you insinuate?  Now, he got REAL ugly with some church leaders, but I think he even dined with a few of them on occasion.  Why did he get so ugly with those church leaders?  Do you recall?

 

Sorry...this brings out the little sister in me, Extra.

 

BTW, I do not accept Extra's assessment of anyone on my forum, this forum, any forum.  Unless someone gives me reason to think otherwise, I see them as a person.  However, if you start growing fangs or claws, you gotta go. *snicker*

Originally Posted by Extra-260:

Since I DIDN"T KNOW THAT, because I have never seen that posted anywhere, you have a right to be angry, providing it's true

 

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 so now, you take back the hateful things you said?

I'll take back fake preacher.  But as for those conspiracy theories, you're still nuts.

 

Joy is a friend, to let your comments slide about her would make me a fair weather friend.  I'm not.

Are we not to love the sinner but hate the sin? If people made mistakes in the past, they need to atone. To hold their past against them is wrong. Agreed?

Originally Posted by _Joy_:

I just used the search feature to see if there were any other lies by Magpie in need of a rebuttal link to my forum and it appears he is no longer with us.  As long as it stays that way, there will be no more need for rebuttal links.

 

Good job, TVT Admin.

He'll be back. Like a bad nightmare.

Originally Posted by b50m:
To hold their past against them is wrong. Agreed?

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I personally think "forgiveness " is highly overrated.  There are some things that are unforgivable. An assault on the good re****tion of a person like Joy who is the epitome of a Good Christian girl who actually walks the walk (unlike ANYONE else here) is simply unforgivable.

Originally Posted by Unobtanium:
Originally Posted by b50m:
To hold their past against them is wrong. Agreed?

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I personally think "forgiveness " is highly overrated.  There are some things that are unforgivable. An assault on the good re****tion of a person like Joy who is the epitome of a Good Christian girl who actually walks the walk (unlike ANYONE else here) is simply unforgivable.

 

 Unob,

 I never assaulted her re****tion, I just questioned her judgment. With that clarification, i give you the last word.

 

 
Originally Posted by dark dreamer:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:

       For the record, I'm not a troll, and I'm still here.





Sorry, wasn't talking about you. We were talking about Magpie. You aren't a "new" member are you?
 
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 No Dark, that was for some of the others.

 

Originally Posted by Unobtanium:

I personally think "forgiveness " is highly overrated.  There are some things that are unforgivable. An assault on the good re****tion of a person like Joy who is the epitome of a Good Christian girl who actually walks the walk (unlike ANYONE else here) is simply unforgivable.


I haven't had time to stop by the last few days, but wanted to tell you how much I appreciate that. Thank you, Unob and everyone else with enough walking around sense to see all that silliness for what it was.

Originally Posted by dark dreamer:
https://tnvalleytalks.hoop.la/d...6#232801071967044756

Congratulations to Jennifer! She has correctly identified Rram's AKA-(Magpie)(buffalo)(deep.fat)(and many others) new screen name which is "okuok". I knew someone would catch on eventually. It's really not that hard if you know the true nature of a troll and how they operate.

Congrats DD.  You win the prize for picking the slime out of the weeds. He finally gave absolute proof. 

 

Bm50,

I’ve noticed your infatuation with one Buffalo. Was there an ember at one time or what?

I never personally met the Great Buffalo but I’ve heard of his bravery.

His wisdom is much discussed as is his scientific knowledge around the world.

I understand he was quite the ladies man. Perhaps you and the hoard of women have pursued him in vain.

We all miss the Buffalo.

There is usually always something missing from the internet trolls(rRam's) life. He is most likely unliked and shunned by the community or even his family(which isn't hard to believe with this poor, sick, demented soul). After all he's an internet troll. Everything that he says on here is most likely lies and pretend. His life consist of stalking people he knows nothing about and spreading lies and always creating some sort of drama for people to fall into. He is a troll because he gets the attention he needs on internet forums. It gives him a sense of importance and of being in control(which he lacks in the real world).

He baits you all and you all keep giving him what he seeks. Attention. It's that simple. You guys all keep feeding him and he just keeps on playing you all like a fine tuned guitar.

I wish TD would give me access to the administrative controls for just a few hours. I would rid this forum of him once and for all.
Originally Posted by dark dreamer:
There is usually always something missing from the internet trolls(rRam's) life. He is most likely unliked and shunned by the community or even his family(which isn't hard to believe with this poor, sick, demented soul). After all he's an internet troll. Everything that he says on here is most likely lies and pretend. His life consist of stalking people he knows nothing about and spreading lies and always creating some sort of drama for people to fall into. He is a troll because he gets the attention he needs on internet forums. It gives him a sense of importance and of being in control(which he lacks in the real world).

He baits you all and you all keep giving him what he seeks. Attention. It's that simple. You guys all keep feeding him and he just keeps on playing you all like a fine tuned guitar.

I wish TD would give me access to the administrative controls for just a few hours. I would rid this forum of him once and for all.

 

 

in other words, rram/buffy/etc. has a totally external locus of control. These people are generally litterers, but those who can actually spell monosyllabic words would make excellent trolls. Interesting that his main targets are women...

I have said this before and I am going to say it again here.

 

The person behind the personas of okuok/buffalo/ramm/etc is seriously mentally ill. Everyone here should be very cautious in dealing with him. I fear for the people in his real life. He has said some very scary things on this forum and they seem to be overlooked as just kooky. No one that dedicates this much time to doing what he does here is just a little kooky. His derogatory comments to women, and his remarks about young people exposing themselves to him are not normal. I wish that TD mods would pay better attention and rid us of this danger. Its sad to say that it might take him actually acting in a violent and dangerous way for it to be taken seriously.

 

Becareful and stay clear of him. Try and ignore his comments and shut him out. Hopefully he will move on to somewhere else that he can get attention. Keep his family in your thoughts. They surely need our concern.

Originally Posted by dark dreamer:
I agree. One woman especially seems to be a reoccurring target of his obsession.

DD,

 

He's obsessed with this woman because she is everything he cannot be:  Kind, considerate, open minded, generous, true to her creed, loving, undogmatic (mostly ), intelligent, brave, and sweet.  She has set a standard so far beyond the imbecile's reach that he must necessarily live and die in failure.  Is it any wonder he does not like her?

 

I do not agree with her down the line, but I admire her, and I'll admit that in several ways, she's better than me.  He could never do this.

 

DF

Originally Posted by DarkAngel:

I have said this before and I am going to say it again here.

 

The person behind the personas of okuok/buffalo/ramm/etc is seriously mentally ill. Everyone here should be very cautious in dealing with him. I fear for the people in his real life. He has said some very scary things on this forum and they seem to be overlooked as just kooky. No one that dedicates this much time to doing what he does here is just a little kooky. His derogatory comments to women, and his remarks about young people exposing themselves to him are not normal. I wish that TD mods would pay better attention and rid us of this danger. Its sad to say that it might take him actually acting in a violent and dangerous way for it to be taken seriously.

 

Becareful and stay clear of him. Try and ignore his comments and shut him out. Hopefully he will move on to somewhere else that he can get attention. Keep his family in your thoughts. They surely need our concern.


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DD,

It is my suspicion that you are a young teenager.

Originally Posted by okuok:

    
Originally Posted by DarkAngel:

I have said this before and I am going to say it again here.

 

The person behind the personas of okuok/buffalo/ramm/etc is seriously mentally ill. Everyone here should be very cautious in dealing with him. I fear for the people in his real life. He has said some very scary things on this forum and they seem to be overlooked as just kooky. No one that dedicates this much time to doing what he does here is just a little kooky. His derogatory comments to women, and his remarks about young people exposing themselves to him are not normal. I wish that TD mods would pay better attention and rid us of this danger. Its sad to say that it might take him actually acting in a violent and dangerous way for it to be taken seriously.

 

Becareful and stay clear of him. Try and ignore his comments and shut him out. Hopefully he will move on to somewhere else that he can get attention. Keep his family in your thoughts. They surely need our concern.


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DD,

It is my suspicion that you are a young teenager.




Just for your information mr. troll I have only ONE screen name on here(dark dreamer) I've never needed to disguise myself like you do so I can troll the forums and harass people on a daily basis and be banned every other week. Not everyone has a hundred different names on here RRAMM. Get your facts straight troll. 
Originally Posted by Infomercial:

        In all seriousness, he seems to be stalking a lot of girls, very young and, well, a little past very young. Has anyone thought of turning his posts over to authorities just to have a record of all this?



If he actually did do physical harm to someone, the TD could be sued also.


It's all been/ and is being saved in vivid detail. So if the time ever comes it can all be handed over to authorities.

Dark,

It’s not my fault that you and your black sheep chose to ‘strike’ the rock instead of speaking kindly about it.

Now you don’t get to see the Promise Land of Sweetwater and dress up in ball gowns, sit in the parlors nor dance with the gentlemen to the strain of our melodious musicians. Too bad indeedy.

Originally Posted by okuok:

Dark,

It’s not my fault that you and your black sheep chose to ‘strike’ the rock instead of speaking kindly about it.

Now you don’t get to see the Promise Land of Sweetwater and dress up in ball gowns, sit in the parlors nor dance with the gentlemen to the strain of our melodious musicians. Too bad indeedy.

 

 

 Why the obsession with Black Sheep! You also have quite an obsession with this Sweetwater dump!

 Get over it man! You ain't making anyone jealous by omitting them from  anything you are a part of!

 

Why don't you just go hang out at Sweetwater and be happy with that instead of dragging this hatred you have of the female gender all over the place!

Originally Posted by DarkAngel:

I have said this before and I am going to say it again here.

 

The person behind the personas of okuok/buffalo/ramm/etc is seriously mentally ill. Everyone here should be very cautious in dealing with him. I fear for the people in his real life. He has said some very scary things on this forum and they seem to be overlooked as just kooky. No one that dedicates this much time to doing what he does here is just a little kooky. His derogatory comments to women, and his remarks about young people exposing themselves to him are not normal. I wish that TD mods would pay better attention and rid us of this danger. Its sad to say that it might take him actually acting in a violent and dangerous way for it to be taken seriously.

 

Becareful and stay clear of him. Try and ignore his comments and shut him out. Hopefully he will move on to somewhere else that he can get attention. Keep his family in your thoughts. They surely need our concern.

DA,

I've expressed similar concern for his mental health as well and have ignored his desperate attention seeking since. But due to his repeated sexual obsessions and odd sick comments on this very forum I think he could also be a menace to minors in real life. All kinds of creepy red flags are present. If anyone has actionable information about this guy that can be passed along to the proper authorities don't hold on to it.

Joy, you keep lying about me on your forum and sending b50m over here to do your dirties.

I really harbor no animosity against you and the cat atall. I love you both.

This all boils down to the one thing that bothers me most about you and what you did.

You could not stand several ladies I allowed on my forum because you really thought, I guess in your mind. you were spiritually better than them.

That is not the case Joy. Those ladies you all refer to as Hench broads are all fine Christians and beautiful ladies. They are all close friends of the beautiful and talented Monet as am I.

Now under the guise of being a high and mighty you have your forum over there made up mostly of white trash. You are swarmed and in the company of the most despicable characters you could assemble from the State Prisons and all you can do is cut me down. You need to shut that evil place down. Your sins will find you out. Your OSAS ain’t gonna get it judgment day joy so stop sending your nasties over here to blast me.

I know you see yourself over there a ‘saved women’ playing in that cesspool of BLACKSHEEP and telling your self haha I can dance with these devils and gwaaaaaaaaaaad will save me anyhow. You’re wrong.

Originally Posted by A. Robustus:
Originally Posted by DarkAngel:

I have said this before and I am going to say it again here.

 

The person behind the personas of okuok/buffalo/ramm/etc is seriously mentally ill. Everyone here should be very cautious in dealing with him. I fear for the people in his real life. He has said some very scary things on this forum and they seem to be overlooked as just kooky. No one that dedicates this much time to doing what he does here is just a little kooky. His derogatory comments to women, and his remarks about young people exposing themselves to him are not normal. I wish that TD mods would pay better attention and rid us of this danger. Its sad to say that it might take him actually acting in a violent and dangerous way for it to be taken seriously.

 

Becareful and stay clear of him. Try and ignore his comments and shut him out. Hopefully he will move on to somewhere else that he can get attention. Keep his family in your thoughts. They surely need our concern.

DA,

I've expressed similar concern for his mental health as well and have ignored his desperate attention seeking since. But due to his repeated sexual obsessions and odd sick comments on this very forum I think he could also be a menace to minors in real life. All kinds of creepy red flags are present. If anyone has actionable information about this guy that can be passed along to the proper authorities don't hold on to it.

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adot you fool you give good advice I may just take it and report one of your own on this forum that you worship. It's a heart stopper. 

Originally Posted by okuok:

Joy, you keep lying about me on your forum and sending b50m over here to do your dirties.

I really harbor no animosity against you and the cat atall. I love you both.

This all boils down to the one thing that bothers me most about you and what you did.

You could not stand several ladies I allowed on my forum because you really thought, I guess in your mind. you were spiritually better than them.

That is not the case Joy. Those ladies you all refer to as Hench broads are all fine Christians and beautiful ladies. They are all close friends of the beautiful and talented Monet as am I.

Now under the guise of being a high and mighty you have your forum over there made up mostly of white trash. You are swarmed and in the company of the most despicable characters you could assemble from the State Prisons and all you can do is cut me down. You need to shut that evil place down. Your sins will find you out. Your OSAS ain’t gonna get it judgment day joy so stop sending your nasties over here to blast me.

I know you see yourself over there a ‘saved women’ playing in that cesspool of BLACKSHEEP and telling your self haha I can dance with these devils and gwaaaaaaaaaaad will save me anyhow. You’re wrong.

 

 

Let it go Ramm! Nobody is interested in your made up lies! 

Why all the hate?

Originally Posted by b50m:
 

The first act of the guilty is to accuse someone else of their crime.

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"Projection is a psychological defense mechanism where a person subconsciously denies his or her own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, usually to other people...The mind may avoid the discomfort of consciously admitting personal faults by keeping those feelings unconscious, and by redirecting libidinal satisfaction by attaching, or "projecting," those same faults onto another person or object." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Gnu [who fancies himself well employed as a wild beast who plays with crocodiles]

A room full of humanist has no concept of sanity or mental health. As they look out from their confused world they falsely assume everyone on the out side as no different as themselves, affected with no hope. You are viewed as less-than-human and there is no sympathy for you primates on the outside.

Originally Posted by okuok:

       Gnu [who fancies himself well employed as a wild beast who plays with crocodiles] A room full of humanist has no concept of sanity or mental health. As they look out from their confused world they falsely assume everyone on the out side as no different as themselves, affected with no hope. You are viewed as less-than-human and there is no sympathy for you primates on the outside.


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Yeah, it IS scary DA.

What we are witnessing here is RRAMM ramping it up a notch since he's been outed and everyone here now knows who/ what he really is and why he's here. This pattern repeats itself quite often if you've been paying attention over the last 6 or 7 months. At this point he feels he has nothing to lose. You can expect the replies and comments he leaves from this point on to be even more vile and hate filled. This is his true self shining through all the layers of lies and deception.
Originally Posted by dark dreamer:
Yeah, it IS scary DA.

What we are witnessing here is RRAMM ramping it up a notch since he's been outed and everyone here now knows who/ what he really is and why he's here. This pattern repeats itself quite often if you've been paying attention over the last 6 or 7 months. At this point he feels he has nothing to lose. You can expect the replies and comments he leaves from this point on to be even more vile and hate filled. This is his true self shining through all the layers of lies and deception.

 

 

B, I have posted how I feel about it. I am concerned for those he comes in contact with. The way he refers to Humanists as being less than human....is scary as f@#%$. I hope that the TD admins are paying attention. 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

It's no secret he calls atheists animals, he's posted it lately. I don't know if he's a threat but he sure is a nutcase. I don't think he has a family or any friends to interact with, because if he did they would most likely have gotten him some mental help by now.

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Best,

 I don't know how long you have been around in the forums but I have have been here about 3 years.

i have seen this stuff going on the whole time off and on and it almost always includes the same people, with the exception that now b50m has gotten involved.

 It is the same thing, you have a group of people who go after some one and "gang" up on them, publicly villify them , then run back to their forum lairs to laugh about it. This gang of internet thugs call themselves the Black Sheep. Rammm/ magpie/ whatever he calls himself is trying to defend himself just as you or I would. Howbeit, I will admit, he some times is very clumsy at it.

Originally Posted by okuok:

Joy, you keep lying about me on your forum and sending b50m over here to do your dirties.

I really harbor no animosity against you and the cat atall. I love you both.

This all boils down to the one thing that bothers me most about you and what you did.

You could not stand several ladies I allowed on my forum because you really thought, I guess in your mind. you were spiritually better than them.

That is not the case Joy. Those ladies you all refer to as Hench broads are all fine Christians and beautiful ladies. They are all close friends of the beautiful and talented Monet as am I.

Now under the guise of being a high and mighty you have your forum over there made up mostly of white trash. You are swarmed and in the company of the most despicable characters you could assemble from the State Prisons and all you can do is cut me down. You need to shut that evil place down. Your sins will find you out. Your OSAS ain’t gonna get it judgment day joy so stop sending your nasties over here to blast me.

I know you see yourself over there a ‘saved women’ playing in that cesspool of BLACKSHEEP and telling your self haha I can dance with these devils and gwaaaaaaaaaaad will save me anyhow. You’re wrong.


 

I have never, ever referred to those women by that name.  I never had a problem with those women nor did they have a problem with me.  As I've told you repeatedly...I felt a decision made BY YOU was unfair/irrational and because I could not be associated with such a decision, asked to be removed as Admin.  I'm sorry no other woman in your life had prepared you for that by disagreeing with you and walking away.  This incident would not be a big deal to most people.  That happened YEARS ago.  It's rather sad that you cannot move on from something so insignificant.

 

To refute your latest lies, a link, forum is viewable to all...

 

http://alabamian.forumotion.com/

 

TVT Admin, this member has been reported and is still here.  If you allow his lies about me & others (which is breaking your own rules), a link revealing his lies about me will be my rebuttal from now on.

Oh I see the drama. But I also know I had nothing to do with any of it and the nutjob "came after me" because I'm an atheist. Defending yourself is one thing, I do that and take plenty of heat for it, but calling people and their children animals, saying they look at pictures of young boys in sexual situations and making all other sorts of nasty insinuations while claiming to be a christian as he does is not defending yourself. It's a perversion.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Oh I see the drama. But I also know I had nothing to do with any of it and the nutjob "came after me" because I'm an atheist. Defending yourself is one thing, I do that and take plenty of heat for it, but calling people and their children animals, saying they look at pictures of young boys in sexual situations and making all other sorts of nasty insinuations while claiming to be a christian as he does is not defending yourself. It's a perversion.

 

 Best,

While I give you some lattitude in your opinion let me clue you in to some on these forums. There are several atheists on these forums, the most notable is deepfat.  Just about all the atheists i have correspoded with view evolution as the creative means of this world. They willingly aknowlege they are animals according to their own statement of beliefs.

 Deepfat/NSNS has posted in times past his infatuation with eating sushi off the naked bodies of some of the ladies of this forum. There are other types of perversion and filth that has been defended by these people. About two years ago i had a legthy debate with one of them about the right of homosexuals to adopt and reqruit children into the homosexual lifestyle, hich this person defended.

 So don't go around stating that Ramms posts are lies, i for one am witness to the truths of his statements. Now whether this includes you, that remains to be seen, I haven't been keeping up with the religion forum lately.

 

Originally Posted by _Joy_:

Best, he admitted that he is not a Christian, but says he is a member of COC... https://tnvalleytalks.hoop.la/d...8#231956559079152788

...don't ask me how that works because I have no idea...lol.

Joy,

 You my dear lady are beginning to act just like the people you hang with. Remember, "evil communication corrupts good manners." If you hang with bad people, their ways will rub off on you.

So don't go around stating that Ramms posts are lies, i for one am witness to the truths of his statements. Now whether this includes you, that remains to be seen, I haven't been keeping up with the religion forum lately.

 

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Let me clue you in real fast. I don't think ramn buff or whatever he calls himself knows anything about the people he tries to libel, nor do you. Don't even try to "go there" with me concerning the filth he posts because I won't sit still for it.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

So don't go around stating that Ramms posts are lies, i for one am witness to the truths of his statements. Now whether this includes you, that remains to be seen, I haven't been keeping up with the religion forum lately.

 

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Let me clue you in real fast. I don't think ramn buff or whatever he calls himself knows anything about the people he tries to libel, nor do you. Don't even try to "go there" with me concerning the filth he posts because I won't sit still for it.

 

 Actually, I know quite a bit as does Ramm. But I have no need to post it in an open forum.

 

Originally Posted by Extra-260:
Best,

 I don't know how long you have been around in the forums but I have have been here about 3 years.

i have seen this stuff going on the whole time off and on and it almost always includes the same people, with the exception that now b50m has gotten involved.

 It is the same thing, you have a group of people who go after some one and "gang" up on them, publicly villify them , then run back to their forum lairs to laugh about it. This gang of internet thugs call themselves the Black Sheep. Rammm/ magpie/ whatever he calls himself is trying to defend himself just as you or I would. Howbeit, I will admit, he some times is very clumsy at it.


You left out how it started, Extra.  If you remember all that, then you should have no trouble remembering how it started...unless of course you are just repeating one person's version of what happened? 

 

The Black Sheep Forum was not even around when it started.  Monet & Co. followed this woman around the forum insulting her.  She ignored them for a long time.  The Black Sheep did later form as a result of those that defended this woman, some of whom began slamming Monet & Co.  Many of us, including myself, asked both sides to stop, but it continued for a long time.  I was invited to the Black Sheep Forum, took one look at some rather nasty remarks, decided it was not for me, left & never returned.  Ironically, the nastiest remarks came from a couple of members that left the Black Sheep...go figure.

 

Rram was not involved until long after it began, when TNT had a falling out with her Black Sheep buddies, left them and joined Monet & Co.  Rram, who is somehow closely connected to TNT, literally became a different person overnight in support of TNT, could not be reasoned with on his forum or here.  He thought the whole world was against TNT, to the point he excluded someone from his forum who had nothing to do with whatever happened between TNT and the Black Sheep.  That is the decision he made with which I disagreed and then asked to be removed as Admin.  He changed so drastically that those of us who called him friend thought he had died and someone else was using his name...no kidding, that drastic...and he has remained in that frame of mind ever since.

 

And now y'all know......the rest of the story...lol.

 

Yeah, I had too much free time this morning...    ...but gotta run now.

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Joy,

 In thiose days there were people joining the forums under other peoples names and attacking. There is no way you can positively say that Monet was behind it all. I know Monet, have been good friends with her for awhile now, that isn't her style.

 During the time you speak of, I remember perfectly well black sheep being exposed as those were pretending to be someone else.

There were no Black Sheep when it started, Extra.  A person going by the name 'Monet' and her friends...have no idea who these people are in real life...followed a member around insulting her & she did nothing in return for a long time.  That IS how it started.  Others here will remember.  BTW, nobody here knew this woman they were tormenting or what in the world they were talking about.  It was completely bizarre.  They were all new members at the time.

Originally Posted by _Joy_:

There were no Black Sheep when it started, Extra.  A person going by the name 'Monet' and her friends...have no idea who these people are in real life...followed a member around insulting her & she did nothing in return for a long time.  That IS how it started.  Others here will remember.

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I remember when a certain local author  went around pretending to be Monet, do you?


 

I wondered when that explanation would surface.  Several of us suspected it was a publicity stunt by one or both of them, but the remarks made against each of them were damaging, did more to harm their careers than bolster them, would lead one to stay away from them rather than run out to buy their artwork or books.  All I know is that the member who went by the name Monet and her friends were the originators of this silliness...there is no way to know for sure who they were/are offline.

 

Ahh, now stop keeping me on here, Extra!  I've got too much left to do before work!   See y'all later!

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Well joy,

You are in a hurry but you always have time to show how high and mighty above everyone you place yourself. I wonder why only atheist defend you on here? I could be because you make “Christians” want to puke when you place yourself above anyone that disagrees with you.

For your information you are no better than Monet, Carmen, TNT, Sally, Cyn or anyone else for that matter.

You think you are but they are closer to being Christians than you will ever be with your hate.

Originally Posted by Extra-260:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

It's no secret he calls atheists animals, he's posted it lately. I don't know if he's a threat but he sure is a nutcase. I don't think he has a family or any friends to interact with, because if he did they would most likely have gotten him some mental help by now.

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Best,

 I don't know how long you have been around in the forums but I have have been here about 3 years.

i have seen this stuff going on the whole time off and on and it almost always includes the same people, with the exception that now b50m has gotten involved.

 It is the same thing, you have a group of people who go after some one and "gang" up on them, publicly villify them , then run back to their forum lairs to laugh about it. This gang of internet thugs call themselves the Black Sheep. Rammm/ magpie/ whatever he calls himself is trying to defend himself just as you or I would. Howbeit, I will admit, he some times is very clumsy at it.

I'm in 'it' because you 'friend' ramm is always attacking my character. You are just ticked off becuase some people told you where to go on Joy's forum. All thee of them.

I'm not ganging up on anyone. I have had PM's with Ramm and told him my opinions of him and his perversions. He is not defending himself when he is the one WHO BRINGS UP ME AND JOY EVERY TIME IN A THREAD THAT HAS NO RELEVANCE.

Originally Posted by Extra-260:
Originally Posted by _Joy_:

Best, he admitted that he is not a Christian, but says he is a member of COC... https://tnvalleytalks.hoop.la/d...8#231956559079152788

...don't ask me how that works because I have no idea...lol.

Joy,

 You my dear lady are beginning to act just like the people you hang with. Remember, "evil communication corrupts good manners." If you hang with bad people, their ways will rub off on you.

Umm, hang with?  They post on a forum, just like you post on this one. No one has ever mentioned the BS over there until ramm brought it up here and made up LIES.

Originally Posted by okuok:

Well joy,

You are in a hurry but you always have time to show how high and mighty above everyone you place yourself. I wonder why only atheist defend you on here? I could be because you make “Christians” want to puke when you place yourself above anyone that disagrees with you.

For your information you are no better than Monet, Carmen, TNT, Sally, Cyn or anyone else for that matter.

You think you are but they are closer to being Christians than you will ever be with your hate.

She never said she was better ramm.  You make a lot of people want to puke.  And run from you. You are a nut. A pervert. A liar. AND OBSESSED.

b50m wrote:

I'm in 'it' because you 'friend' ramm is always attacking my character. You are just ticked off becuase some people told you where to go on Joy's forum. All thee of them.

I'm not ganging up on anyone. I have had PM's with Ramm and told him my opinions of him and his perversions. He is not defending himself when he is the one WHO BRINGS UP ME AND JOY EVERY TIME IN A THREAD THAT HAS NO RELEVANCE.

 

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 So then why have you been over on their forum for the last 2 weeks stirring it up and making threats?

 Christians than you will ever be with your hate.

 

Ramm,

 Let's try to keep the high road and not be inflammatory. One thing that Joy is not is hate filled.

 Well intentioned, but I believe a bit misinformed. She has been on the sidelines a good while and hasn't seen a lot that has gone on, and what she knows, she gets from only one side.

Originally Posted by okuok:
For your information you are no better than Monet, Carmen, TNT, Sally, Cyn or anyone else for that matter.

 


LOL...what a little trouble maker you are.  For your information, I already know that.  I know you'd love to start something between me and them.  There is nothing to start.  We've never had issues with each other and likely never will.  You are the problem.

 

Extra, b50m did not start in on Rram.  Rram/okuok/Buff/whatever began running his mouth over here about us and she has defended both herself and me.  I've provided plenty of links showing you that he is lying, yet you continue to defend him.  Please explain that.

Originally Posted by Extra-260:

b50m wrote:

I'm in 'it' because you 'friend' ramm is always attacking my character. You are just ticked off becuase some people told you where to go on Joy's forum. All thee of them.

I'm not ganging up on anyone. I have had PM's with Ramm and told him my opinions of him and his perversions. He is not defending himself when he is the one WHO BRINGS UP ME AND JOY EVERY TIME IN A THREAD THAT HAS NO RELEVANCE.

 

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 So then why have you been over on their forum for the last 2 weeks stirring it up and making threats?

Ramm invited me to come bash it out remember?  That was after he had already started his crap.

What threats?  JR said he wanted to troll at Joy's forum. I said I would cut his trolling nuts off if he did. TROLL! DUH. extra, you ain't that dumb.

No threats against Ramm. He has threatened me and my family. I told him if he shows up at my house,  I will protect myself.

 

End of story.

Originally Posted by b50m:

PS;

If you are over at Ramm's place then you have seen the language he uses when describing me and Joy.  You have seen him boast about he can take us down. You have seen his perverted comments. And yet, you are OK with that?  You must be one weird preacher man.

B50m, let's not insult each other OK?

 I actually still like you and Joy, I just disagree with some of your conclusions.

 The answer is yes, I logged in last night. Yes I read the threads.  No I am not comfortable with that kind of language, but then I'm not comfortable with the KMA's on your forum either, one of them aimed at me.

 I've provided plenty of links showing you that he is lying, yet you continue to defend him.  Please explain that.

 

 Joy,

specifically, what is he lying about. I've read your forum and haven't seen much about any exposing of ram other than the accusations that he is mentally deranged. Specifically, what is he lying about?

Originally Posted by b50m:

So you are not comfortable, yet you accuse Joy of consorting with evil at her forum.

 

OK, not weird, just a hypocrite Extra. You are associating with Ramm, and defending him, which makes you the same as him.

B50M,

 You have to log in to see Ramms forum, not so with Joy's.  Yes, I logged in, the first time in a year or more.  I had to log in to check your claims.  Any reasonable person can understand my need to get both sides.

Originally Posted by Extra-260:

 Christians than you will ever be with your hate.

 

Ramm,

 Let's try to keep the high road and not be inflammatory. One thing that Joy is not is hate filled.

 Well intentioned, but I believe a bit misinformed. She has been on the sidelines a good while and hasn't seen a lot that has gone on, and what she knows, she gets from only one side.

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Both "sides" in this train wreck are bat spit crazy.

Joy is the only Christian on any forum that gives me reason to give the entire enterprise of Christianity some slack.

 

I'm fixing to make it personal.  I'm fixing to give Joy some slack, and the rest of Christianity can go to the Hell it invented.

 

Whatever motivates Joy must bear some consideration.  Whatever motivates Extra and whatever Ramm calls himself these days must bear a most severe derision.  Joy exudes love, Extra and Ramm exude hatred.  If there is any introspection and humility in these men, they should examine Joy's outlook and learn something.  I have, and I have.

I suspect that the hatred that is most common in Christianity has poisoned their minds, however.  On average, Christianity is not a religion of love, but one of suspicion and hatred.  Christians are never happier than when they think themselves persecuted.  As if a country that is 80% Christian can persecute them.

 

I try to approach humankind with the default condition of love, and I'm largely successful.  I accuse Joy of the same.  I accuse Extra and Buffalo of the opposite, because of their bigotry.  I pity those two.

 

DF

I just wanted to say that I have never been to any of the other forums that are always being talked about with this particular troll. Also I have no idea who the "black sheep" are and I have no desire to EVER know. As far as I can tell, someone got ****ed off for being banned years ago and ever since then they've been on a quest to stalk and harass the person and people who they think did it. It really does sound like something a kid in a kindergarten class would do. How petty and irrational and bored can you be to really get into something like that?

I personally think all parties involved in this internet forum hate triangle should meet up somewhere locally and beat the hell out of each other and move on with their lives. Give it a rest already. We are SICK of hearing it on this forum. Take this crap elsewhere and get a life.

Thanks, NSNS.  I've always thought we had much in common, except for that one major thing...haha.  I had too much time on my hands this morning and ventured over...big mistake.  Y'all don't be strangers and come by the Alabamian to say "hi" occasionally.  TVT is a zoo with no keeper.  I need to make time for what is important.  Coming here and refuting Rram's latest lies should not even be on my list.  I hate it that we can't have intelligent discussion/debate like mature adults here, but that time is long gone.  Hopefully we'll talk again sometime.

Watching the spin cycle would be more educational, Puf.

 

You could even do some ****er scooping for fun.