I'm not trying to say words used by the President aren't important but in several, if not most cases, the real problem today is not the actual words that the President says but it's how the media reports it and others spin it.  

Trump never said White Nationalist had good people on their side but rather, as mentioned in another post, Trump said there was good people on both sides of the historical monument movement yet there are so many people that actually believe Trump said it about White Nationalist because the media and the Democrats don't care to lie about it and continue to repeat it over and over for political gain.  To me that is just as bad as if Trump had said what they are trying to say he said.  Trump didn't say it but because so many say he did there are people who actually believe he did when he didn't so those spreading the lies are actually more guilty than Trump, himself.

Another thing to think about is the Democrats own rhetoric about Illegals and promising to give them everything free at the expense of our own citizens or instead of taking care of our own citizens first which is the language that actually potentially triggered this mentally unstable person to carry through with his actions as from his Manifesto we know he listened to what the Democrats promised which incensed him all the more yet no one is saying anything about that, at least not yet.   

Just think about the violence and the results that would most likely follow IF the Democrats were successful in pushing through reparations.  The Democrats want to blame Trump but all the time it's their own rhetoric that is stirring the pot to the point of anarchy.  The Democrats also have their own hate groups that get little condemnation, if any, and that is Antifa and Black Lives Matter.  Until you are ready and able to call out ALL the groups then you aren't really serious about the problem but just want to politicize things and for that they should all be shamed.

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Republicans sure spend a lot of time telling what Trump 'meant to say' instead of what he did say. How many border crossing locations did the Trump Administration close? Trump manufactured the border crisis and now looks for a way to solve the problem he created. Meanwhile, the Republican Base is spoon fed the Republican narrative and they parrot it , daily.

Trump continues to call immigrants rapists, murderers, the worst people.... and yet, it's all the Democrats fault that a Trump supporting white supremacists decided to shoot brown people. Wake up, Republicans.

wow, crank,,, what fantasy world are you in?   do the research, listen to what Trump says, then what media says he meant.   as many I am tired of being labeled just because of my voting choices.  Even MSNBC talking head said if you don't vote democrat you are a racist.  Wow and who do you think is causing problems?  

I was raised in NM.   border challenge has been there for a long time,,, congress has done nothing.  Both sides have had the opportunity to fix it, however don't I guess for talking points.  Many of the illegals are rapist, murderers etc.   and yes many are good people. either way they broke the law.  

Crazies do the shooting,,, I know I have known people I worry about doing something crazy like shootings.  I have no idea what to do about them.  Except pray.

1130 posted:

wow, crank,,, what fantasy world are you in?   do the research, listen to what Trump says, then what media says he meant.   as many I am tired of being labeled just because of my voting choices.  Even MSNBC talking head said if you don't vote democrat you are a racist.  Wow and who do you think is causing problems?  

I was raised in NM.   border challenge has been there for a long time,,, congress has done nothing.  Both sides have had the opportunity to fix it, however don't I guess for talking points.  Many of the illegals are rapist, murderers etc.   and yes many are good people. either way they broke the law.  

Crazies do the shooting,,, I know I have known people I worry about doing something crazy like shootings.  I have no idea what to do about them.  Except pray.

You mean listen to what the Conservative Media attempts to say Trump meant to say? Trump's words are clear to anyone with ears.

 

gbrk posted:

I'm not trying to say words used by the President aren't important but in several, if not most cases, the real problem today is not the actual words that the President says but it's how the media reports it and others spin it.  

Trump never said White Nationalist had good people on their side but rather, as mentioned in another post, Trump said there was good people on both sides of the historical monument movement yet there are so many people that actually believe Trump said it about White Nationalist because the media and the Democrats don't care to lie about it and continue to repeat it over and over for political gain.  To me that is just as bad as if Trump had said what they are trying to say he said.  Trump didn't say it but because so many say he did there are people who actually believe he did when he didn't so those spreading the lies are actually more guilty than Trump, himself.

Another thing to think about is the Democrats own rhetoric about Illegals and promising to give them everything free at the expense of our own citizens or instead of taking care of our own citizens first which is the language that actually potentially triggered this mentally unstable person to carry through with his actions as from his Manifesto we know he listened to what the Democrats promised which incensed him all the more yet no one is saying anything about that, at least not yet.   

Just think about the violence and the results that would most likely follow IF the Democrats were successful in pushing through reparations.  The Democrats want to blame Trump but all the time it's their own rhetoric that is stirring the pot to the point of anarchy.  The Democrats also have their own hate groups that get little condemnation, if any, and that is Antifa and Black Lives Matter.  Until you are ready and able to call out ALL the groups then you aren't really serious about the problem but just want to politicize things and for that they should all be shamed.

Their lies are all they have. They spread the lies around to people that have no idea they're being lied to and don't know how to find or hear the truth. I have seen them post that Trump said to the squad..."get out of here! Go back to your crime infested countries"...and claiming that he said in a speech to shoot the illegals. Think of that...you have people hearing that and they have no idea it is nothing but lies. They keep claiming Russia put Trump in office...and because dem voters are not the brightest to begin with they believe that. They have no common sense and don't know how to think for themselves...if they did they wouldn't be dems.  They don't want to take a bit of blame for the things that are happening even though they are mostly to blame! They have given us an out of control illegal INVASION of all sorts of foreigners and giving them benefits legal citizens either can't get or have to jump through hoops to get...gang infested cities...sanctuary cities where criminals are safe while they refuse to cooperate with our law enforcement... swollen welfare rolls...drug abuse...both supplying and enabling it...the unfettered slaughter of babies...punishment for calling a person by the wrong gender...the banning of words...and people are getting tired and angry. The ones not wound so tight are acting out on that anger and instead of owning the problems they have created their response is to push for taking yet another right away from US citizens...the right to bear arms. Then they pretend they don't know why they are so hated by normal...decent people.

1130 posted:

wow, crank,,, what fantasy world are you in?   do the research, listen to what Trump says, then what media says he meant.   as many I am tired of being labeled just because of my voting choices.  Even MSNBC talking head said if you don't vote democrat you are a racist.  Wow and who do you think is causing problems?  

I was raised in NM.   border challenge has been there for a long time,,, congress has done nothing.  Both sides have had the opportunity to fix it, however don't I guess for talking points.  Many of the illegals are rapist, murderers etc.   and yes many are good people. either way they broke the law.  

Crazies do the shooting,,, I know I have known people I worry about doing something crazy like shootings.  I have no idea what to do about them.  Except pray.

The left makes fun of the right's "thoughts and prayers" but think if they go stand in a parking lot with candles...kneel on a football field or burn the American flag they've really done something.

 

Nearly all of the members and associates of an MS-13 gang charged in the “medieval-style” slayings of seven people in California were in the country illegally, officials said.

The U.S. Attorney's Office in Los Angeles charged 22 people linked to a subset of the vicious gang that's known as the Fulton clique, members of which are suspected in nearly 200 crimes in several states over 9 years, according to a federal indictment released Tuesday.

 

Authorities said "503" represents the sub-group of MS-13 and is the telephone country code for El Salvador.

The brutality involved in some of the alleged killings was also disclosed in graphic detail by authorities. Four of the killings took place in Angeles National Forest. The slayings were carried out using machetes, bats and knives, according to the indictment.

In one case a member of a rival gang who had been believed to have defaced MS-13 graffiti was targeted and had his heart cut out of his chest, authorities said.

On March 6, 2017, the victim, identified as “J.S.,” was driven to Angeles National Forest, where six MS-13 gang members attacked him with a machete, killing him, the indictment claimed.

“The victim was dismembered and his body parts were thrown into a canyon after one of the defendants allegedly cut the heart out of the victim’s body,” a news release from Hanna’s office said.

Hanna released photos showing MS-13 members displaying a machete, gang signs and guns in various poses.

Sixteen of the 22 people indicted are charged in connection with six slayings, which officials said were so "heinous, cruel or depraved" that the defendants are eligible for the death penalty. Prosecutors have not said whether they intend to seek capital punishment, however.

Prosecutors say photos show MS-13 gang members flashing gang signs and displaying guns and showing off an MS-!3 tattoo.

thanks Crank,,, you show right here on this page how the right twist words around and misquotes.  Sad that you think breaking the law, cheating is ok.  

Worse is you will allow media and democrats to make decisions for you.  and it is ok for illegals to vote so democrats can win.  

1130 posted:

thanks Crank,,, you show right here on this page how the right twist words around and misquotes.  Sad that you think breaking the law, cheating is ok.  

Worse is you will allow media and democrats to make decisions for you.  and it is ok for illegals to vote so democrats can win.  

Hahahahahaha!  You show, right here on this post, how you twist words around and you think it's perfectly fine. You're spoon fed the Republican narrative and you can't wait to parrot it back. Nobody is ok with illegals voting. Nobody wants open borders. Nobody supports killing babies. When will Republicans wake up to their own hypocrisy.

so Crank do you rebuttal just to stir or are you crazy?

pert neer every democrat candidate called for eliminating laws for illegal entrance to the USA.

abortion is killing babies,   Virginia allows at full term.   NY, and Calif. have approved illegal voting in local elections.   

1130 posted:

so Crank do you rebuttal just to stir or are you crazy?

pert neer every democrat candidate called for eliminating laws for illegal entrance to the USA.

abortion is killing babies,   Virginia allows at full term.   NY, and Calif. have approved illegal voting in local elections.   

 

So, half past 11, do your rebuttals just stir up Republican talking points or are you just willing to lie to sound good?

So, Calif. and NY allowed voting in School Board elections... local elections.

Virginia allowes late term abortion if the life, mental health, or physical well being of the mother is in danger. A Dr. has to sign off on it.

The Republicans are trying their best to spread the 'open borders' narrative. A simple google search will show you the error in your statement.

How long have we read things like this from the left? Ever since the day Trump was elected. Their so called leaders urge them on...gives them their orders...and yet the left still refuses to own their hatred and violence!

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A group of protesters supporting gun control gathered outside the home of Sen. Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. where one expressed that someone should "stab the motherf---er in the heart."

The protest took place on Sunday night in the wake of mass shootings in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio. McConnell is currently recovering from a fall he had over the weekend, leaving him with a fractured shoulder.

Approximately 25 demonstrators stood on the sidewalk near McConnell's Louisville home, shouting "No Trump, no KKK, no Fascist USA!" while others called him names like "Murder Turtle" and made loud noises by banging objects and dragging a shovel back and forth on the ground as a group of security personnel stood between the protestors and the home, WLKY reported.

“The b---- is home — we keep seeing the lights go on and off,” another protester can be heard shouting. “This h-- really thought he was going to get ready to be at home after he hurt his little punk ass shoulder. B----, don’t nobody give a f---! F–k your thoughts and prayers, Mitch. F--- you, f--- your wife, f--- everything you stand for. ”

Louisville Metro Police told the New York Post that the demonstrators were "protesting peacefully." The force added that they "are assisting Capitol Police."

A male protester is heard in the clip saying that "hopefully" someone out there has a "voodoo doll." The female protester appears to agree.  "Just stab the motherf**ker in the heart, please," she says.

“We’re out here because [McConnell] wants thoughts and prayers, when another white man massacres people,” the protester later adds.

The hashtag "#MassacreMoscowMitch" was also dominating on social media on Monday night.

Multiple Democrats, including Rep. Ocasio-Cortez and Sen. Bernie Sanders, have been calling on McConnell to bring a vote to a gun control bill that was passed by Democrat-controlled House back in February. The Senate majority leader declined to bring forward the bill but said Monday that he’s willing to consider “bipartisan” solutions in the wake of the mass shootings as long as those measures don't infringe “on Americans’ constitutional rights.”

“Today, the president called on Congress to work in a bipartisan, bicameral way to address the recent mass murders which have shaken our nation,” McConnell said in a statement. “Senate Republicans are prepared to do our part.”

This isn't the first time the Senate Majority Leader has been confronted by protesters. Last October, a man yelled at McConnell as he dined with his wife, Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao, at a Louisville restaurant.

Multiple Democrats, including Rep. Ocasio-Cortez and Sen. Bernie Sanders, have been calling on McConnell to bring a vote to a gun control bill that was passed by Democrat-controlled House back in February. The Senate majority leader declined to bring forward the bill...

McConnell said in a statement. “Senate Republicans are prepared to do our part.”

Yep, Moscow Mitch says one thing and does the opposite. Just like every Republican in D.C.

 

L. Cranston posted:

Trump says Mexicans are rapists and violent criminals and they're taking our jobs. They're the enemy.

The shooter was carrying out his marching orders.

Yep, all the Democrat's fault.

Typical liberal flat out lie!!  Show me one time President Trump promoted violence!  Not something you twist to infer he did but a actual statement or tweet! Many of the illegals do fit the above description and many do not, however if they are truly in the country illegally they have broken our laws!

HIFLYER2 posted:
L. Cranston posted:

Trump says Mexicans are rapists and violent criminals and they're taking our jobs. They're the enemy.

The shooter was carrying out his marching orders.

Yep, all the Democrat's fault.

Typical liberal flat out lie!!  Show me one time President Trump promoted violence!  Not something you twist to infer he did but a actual statement or tweet! Many of the illegals do fit the above description and many do not, however if they are truly in the country illegally they have broken our laws!

All crash has is lies.

By the next morning, news organizations were walking back their stories. The Associated Press announced it had “deleted a tweet from late Wednesday on Trump’s ‘animals’ comment about immigrants because it wasn’t made clear that he was speaking after a comment about gang members.”

But not Pelosi, the House minority leader. Even after it was clear that Trump was referring to gang members, the California Democrat still claimed the president had called “undocumented immigrants” animals, declaring at a news conference that his remarks “inhumane” and that “we’re all God’s children . . . Does he not believe in the spark of divinity, the dignity and worth of every person?”

HIFLYER2 posted:
L. Cranston posted:

Trump says Mexicans are rapists and violent criminals and they're taking our jobs. They're the enemy.

The shooter was carrying out his marching orders.

Yep, all the Democrat's fault.

Typical liberal flat out lie!!  Show me one time President Trump promoted violence!  Not something you twist to infer he did but a actual statement or tweet! Many of the illegals do fit the above description and many do not, however if they are truly in the country illegally they have broken our laws!

shoot them!... only in the panhandle can you get away with that. ...

now what? You're going to spin that into 'what Trump meant to say'?

 

 

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