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Straight or gay, does it matter? If you do not accept the advances of someone then remove yourself from the situation.

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:

What is the best way to respond when a homosexual comes on to you? First off, just walk away.

I think the polite, Christian, response would be the same, heterosexual or homosexual, and it should be, "No thank you, I am not interested." What you are describing is a predator, regardless of orientation. That un-Christian prejudice just pops up in the darndest places now doesn't it?

Wheather you are gay or straight, male or female "no" means NO. Thankfully straight women don't shoot every time men hit on them - there would be lots of dead men and lots of women on death row. I have been hit on in malls, grocery stores, and even the Post Office. I have also been followed and harrassed by straight men. This is not just a "gay" issue. From another perspective we must remember that male on male rape is very rare and, like all rape, really has nothing to do with "sex", but has more to do with control, humiliation and violence.

The whole issue of "cruising" in public parks has been around for years. In the mid 90s the Florence police did a sting and arrested 30+ individuals soliciting sex. Initially they were going to publish all the names in the paper as a deterrent. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the men turned out to be married with families. I vividly recall the police officer being interviewed saying "we are not trying to invade anyones privacy, or ruin their lives. We just want to stop the park "cruising". Most of the gay people I know are in relationships. Those who are not have discovered more civilized ways of meeting people. As the whole Larry Craig story has pointed out - for married men who lead double lives, and are from a generation accustomed to lying about their orientation because it was more socially acceptable than being "out", there is a whole culture involved in clandestine sexual activity. I must remind everyone, however, that this promiscuity is not just a gay man "thing" - it is a MAN thing. Straight men are worse simply because there are more of them. Casanova, Wilt Chamberland and Warren Beatty (among many others)all had over 1000 *women and they were/are straight.

As we know, there are those who would do harm to gay people for no other reason than they exist. I have always been an advocate for everyone knowing how to properly defend themselves against violence. If you feel threatened let someone know. Call the cops, yell, make a scene - do what ever is neccessary to protect yourself. If that means carrying a gun - so be it. It would be an idiot that would assume that gay people are incapable of defending themselves.

*Women are pretty bad too. It takes two to tango.

Outside of prisons, I don't think same sex rapes are a very common occurrance.

I personally think that our resident numeral:numeral poster was frightened by a performance of Cher in her "Half Breed" costume as a child, followed by a traumatic experience with Paul Lynde on the Hollywood Squares.

But all humor aside, all that rhetoric only shows that the Matthew Shepherd "got what he was deserving" and "gay panic defenses" still have adherents in this country.

Isn't legislating against a sexual identity like legislating against rain on weekends?

With wild eyed fanatics packing heat everywhere they go, is there any wonder they soon find a "need" to "defend themselves"? Most people find an unwanted advance of any type is usually stymied by a simple walking away or saying "Go away."

Neal, How nicely put!

Usually people that are so hostile are really frightened by their own true feelings. This is 2008, it is perfectly acceptable to come out of the closet. I won't mention any names or should I say numbers?

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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
Wheather you are gay or straight, male or female "no" means NO. Thankfully straight women don't shoot every time men hit on them - there would be lots of dead men and lots of women on death row. I have been hit on in malls, grocery stores, and even the Post Office. I have also been followed and harrassed by straight men. This is not just a "gay" issue. From another perspective we must remember that male on male rape is very rare and, like all rape, really has nothing to do with "sex", but has more to do with control, humiliation and violence.

The whole issue of "cruising" in public parks has been around for years. In the mid 90s the Florence police did a sting and arrested 30+ individuals soliciting sex. Initially they were going to publish all the names in the paper as a deterrent. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the men turned out to be married with families. I vividly recall the police officer being interviewed saying "we are not trying to invade anyones privacy, or ruin their lives. We just want to stop the park "cruising". Most of the gay people I know are in relationships. Those who are not have discovered more civilized ways of meeting people. As the whole Larry Craig story has pointed out - for married men who lead double lives, and are from a generation accustomed to lying about their orientation because it was more socially acceptable than being "out", there is a whole culture involved in clandestine sexual activity. I must remind everyone, however, that this promiscuity is not just a gay man "thing" - it is a MAN thing. Straight men are worse simply because there are more of them. Casanova, Wilt Chamberland and Warren Beatty (among many others)all had over 1000 *women and they were/are straight.

As we know, there are those who would do harm to gay people for no other reason than they exist. I have always been an advocate for everyone knowing how to properly defend themselves against violence. If you feel threatened let someone know. Call the cops, yell, make a scene - do what ever is neccessary to protect yourself. If that means carrying a gun - so be it. It would be an idiot that would assume that gay people are incapable of defending themselves.

*Women are pretty bad too. It takes two to tango.

I have to agree on this mean.

I am a young female and I can't go anywhere without seeing "elevator eyes" or being howled/whistled at. I'm a married woman now and that seems to make it even worse! I can be holding my husband's hand, and I find men are staring and trying to make gestures at me.

I have been hit on by lesbians only once or twice in my life. And when I explained to them I was in a long term relationship with a man, they understood. It didn't stop them from being nice people or us being friendly. They understood WHY I wasn't interested and it took away the "mystery". Also, they didn't hit on me in some flamboyant, predatory way. It was casually and they were just trying to figure out whether I was gay or straight. All I had to do was tell them and it was left at that. Nothing hard.

It's so funny reading some of the posts on here. I can just picture some of the posters finding out that someone they are having a conversation with is gay. I see them running and screaming as if it were "The Blob" or some cheesey sci-fi movie. Hilarious.

You can't "catch" homosexuality. It doesn't work that way. Children don't "learn" it either. They may understand homosexuality more because of who their parent is, but that will not make them gay.

Sadly, I predict more acts like Matthew Shepherd because there are still many homophobes that exist. If more people who threaten homosexuals become lawmakers, it might even become legal to kill homosexuals.

It scares me at the extent that some people are able to hate. I didn't really know HOW to hate growing up. I didn't like things or people, but HATE. I just never experienced that. I get so terrified reading some of the posts on this forum.

Imagine someone coming out on this forum?!? Talk about bloodshed....

I have to agree with Neal. It sounds like a lot of people are not very comfortable with themselves. I guess it could be the fear of the unknown as well.

First of all carrying a gun to protect yourself from homosexual advances is absurd. Anyone who knows the gay culture could tell you that decades of being shot at has produced a generation of bullet proof homosexuals many with the strength of several men.

They also like to travel in packs of up to 20 so a gun is of little protection. When I go to the park I usually wear a explosive vest and I've also undertaken the precaution of having my bottom sewn up.

Years ago while at the park I had a guy nod as if to say hi and although I was armed I wasn't sure whether or not to open fire. This got me looking into new technologies and I stumbled on the AF-400W which is a personal drone plane. For only 425 million per year the drone - equipped with Vista Gaydar Express Home Edition is capable of firing up to 24 short range missiles at any approaching homosexual within a 300 year radius.

Of course not everyone has 425 million dollars a year to spend or the luxury of being able to reroute their intestinal tract. For a lot less you can have your penis reshaped into a vagina which has been clinically proven to eliminate the threat of homosexual atack.

Phoenix,
LOL

LOL, I hope Bill reads this and trys to figure out why so many Queens are hitting on him. He must be a real hottie!

It is not, however, "absurd" for a homosexual to carry a gun in order to protect themselves from deranged straight men who are so insecure with their on inclinations that they can and do kill homosexuals simply because they exist. Would any one of us like to see your son hanging like a scarecrow from a fence post? Judy Shepard had just that experience.

Newsflash - most gay men are not interested in homophobic straight men! LOL

Seriously, if you think you need a gun to "protect" yourself from someone coming on to you, I will suggest something better for you - a psychiatrist!

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Originally posted by David L.:
Newsflash - most gay men are not interested in homophobic straight men! LOL

Ya think?

I'm thinkin' you may be on to something there. That would make... sense.

Well, of course there are exceptions! Just like some straight women are attracted to gay men.

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Originally posted by David L.:
Well, of course there are exceptions! Just like some straight women are attracted to gay men.

Yes. And the straight men who are sure that one night with them would be enough to convert every lesbian they know.

But it seems the most conceited of all are the honest-to-goodness gay-bashers who are convinced that they can't turn a corner without being hit on by a gay person.

Something tells me your earlier observation was spot on.

If I remember those "sting" operations in the park and at Fisherman's Park on the Limestone county side of the Tennessee River in Decatur netted several preachers. One of whom had his grown son also "fishing" with him.

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But it seems the most conceited of all are the honest-to-goodness gay-bashers who are convinced that they can't turn a corner without being hit on by a gay person.

Oh yes. Almost makes me want to abort.

46:1

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46:1

Now you quote Bible verses?

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Originally posted by jetboy:

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46:1

Now you quote Bible verses?

lol....not exactly....guess that was an "inside joke"

But honestly now, e has a valid poing....what is it about you that you think would be a "turn on" to gay men?

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Originally posted by NotFeelingSafeInAmerica:

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Originally posted by jetboy:

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46:1

Now you quote Bible verses?

lol....not exactly....guess that was an "inside joke"

But honestly now, e has a valid point....what is it about you that you think would be a "turn on" to gay men?

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Originally posted by jetboy:

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But it seems the most conceited of all are the honest-to-goodness gay-bashers who are convinced that they can't turn a corner without being hit on by a gay person.

Oh yes. Almost makes me want to abort.

I'll bet that statement just sends you into orbit!

Wjatever anyone does in the privacy of their own home is none of my business... I dont like public display of affection from anyone, gay or straight.. My husband and I took our kids to a park this past weekend and there was a young guy and girl sitting on a blanket making out. I told them that this was a place for children and they needed to act like adults. They were not gay but they were offensive... I know gay people and have not seen that kind of behavior from them.

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Originally posted by NotFeelingSafeInAmerica:

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Originally posted by jetboy:

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46:1

Now you quote Bible verses?

lol....not exactly....guess that was an "inside joke"

But honestly now, e has a valid point....what is it about you that you think would be a "turn on" to gay men?

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But honestly now, e has a valid point....what is it about you that you think would be a "turn on" to gay men?

everything about me, I am just lovable. i like gay men, gay men like me, not one thing you can do about it , meanasasnake, err I mean NotFeelingSaf...

I have carried a gun for safety....but not once in my mind was it to protect myself from anyone gay.
It's the straight men that rape & kill that scare me.
Someone will find fault in my words but I don't give a rat's behind what people think anymore.

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I have carried a gun for safety....but not once in my mind was it to protect myself from anyone gay.
It's the straight men that rape & kill that scare me.
Someone will find fault in my words but I don't give a rat's behind what people think anymore.

No one has suggested using guns against homosexuals. It was the homosexuals that suggested using guns against straights that 'abused' them.

Sort of frightening to think that you can't just smack a gay guy around without fear that he might protect himself ehh? When someone is "thumping" you, or beating you up its hard to tell if they are going to kill you or just satisfy some sadistic validation of masculinity. If someone started verbally abusing you in a parking lot and then proceeded to physically abuse you, would you wait to see if they were going to kill you or would you protect yourself? I say do what ever you have to to protect youself. The best solution would be NOT to verbally or physically abuse ANYONE! That would ensure that no one felt threatened and did not feel the need to protect themselves. Find yourself a new hobby - there is nothing more pathetic than a middle aged playground bully.

P.S. Actually the suggestion of carrying a firearm came from a straight woman, not a gay guy or a lesbian. As Taci pointed out, straight men are the most violent in our society. That is not to say they are all bad but the facts are the facts.

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Originally posted by jetboy:

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But honestly now, e has a valid point....what is it about you that you think would be a "turn on" to gay men?

everything about me, I am just lovable. i like gay men, gay men like me, not one thing you can do about it , meanasasnake, err I mean NotFeelingSaf...

Thank you for finally answering me. The fact is, darlin, I have no desire to do anything about it. Your preferences are your own and you have every right to them, for friendship, love, or anything else. The thing I object to is people harassing other people for having preferences different from their own....or opinions.....or beliefs. "live and let live" "let God be the judge" (or - let go and let God) are two rules I "try" to live by. I'm not always successful with that but I try to be.

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Hi to everyone,
Reading 46:1's discussion asking why the discrimination; I read the last post where someone suggested getting a gun for protection against homosexuals.
I had begun to respond to this when I noticed the discussion had been frozen -- which is good.
However, I still want to make a statement: I do not believe that the suggestion to carry a gun to keep homosexuals in the park from coming on to a person -- is a very good idea. As a matter of fact, I find it a frightening suggestion.

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Originally posted by Taciturn:
I have carried a gun for safety....but not once in my mind was it to protect myself from anyone gay.
It's the straight men that rape & kill that scare me.
Someone will find fault in my words but I don't give a rat's behind what people think anymore.

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Originally posted by jetboy:
No one has suggested using guns against homosexuals. It was the homosexuals that suggested using guns against straights that 'abused' them.

Read the original post in this discussion. (I have included it here) That’s the one I was replying to.
And, Yes, it has been suggested. In the discussion that was deleted, 46:1 said he has (and would again) used violence against homosexuals.
I stand by my comment.

I read this over and over again and other posts over and over again trying to figure out if it was documented where this 46.1 guy had been abusive or mean or threatening to gay people and came up with this... I am amazed that people did not tell him that it was him that walked up to the gay men and he turned it violent and ran them off... from his very own words he went to them, he either verbally or fiscally attacked them... Could he not just have walked away from them since they were the ones in the pavillon to start with? Now I can see where everyone on here is coming from.... he went to that pavillon to cause trouble and trouble he caused just like on the threads. I am going to past it here so you can see what I read... I just wanted to understand why ppl were upset at 46.1

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46:1
Small Talker

Posted 27 April 2008 12:24 PM Hide Post
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"I have kicked them and struck them". (a gay man).


Wrong...I stated that "I kicked one in the rear quarters once". You ADDED the "struck" part.

To explain...I was at Veterans park (camping). I had went for a walk, sat down at a pavillion occupied by twm men(?). They immediately begain talking about sex. One made a remark toward me...thats when I put them on their way.

I did it then, and yes I would do it again!


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"I like to call em the trash they are". (verbal abuse, considered a theat).


Names like you call me...like "white trash"?

I have no reservations about speaking my thoughts!

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"I like to give em a good "thumpin" every now and again. (another threat of physical abuse).


Your ignorance shows. Ever heard of a Bible thumper? I think you know what I meant though...just trying to twist it to fit your agenda.

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He also refered to them as "sissys" and "wimps". (childish playground crap).


Just my observation of the 'pavillion' incident...

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My remark to him was: " I know lesbians who COULD kick your ass to the Tennessee line." I made no threat of violence, just stated that gay people would be within their rights to fight back. I was informed that the comments were deleated because of 46:1's remarks - not mine.


Be careful out in public when flinging words like that around...when you threatened to kick someones ass...you better be ready...espeially people like me! All this proves is you make statements you can't stand behind. Wimp out so to speak.

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I urge anyone threatened to take action. If someone verbally, or especially physically abuses you - press charges, arm yourself, and do what ever is neccessary under the law to protect yourself. People like this will not prevail in our society


I suggest you don't go around threatening to kick peoples ass then...

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And last but certainly not least...I appreciate you proving that maggie and estoy de russiville were lying!



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I found all that in a thread called: EH@timedaily.com...discrimination.

TTT,

Let me try and explain.

46:1 joined a discussion last week when I remarked that "there is not one thing you can do about gay people" by saying the following:

"You think there is not much I can do about homosexuals??? When I see them I talk to them like the trash they are...haven't had one yet that would make a stand for his sissy self. I have smacked em and kicked em in the hind quarters ...bunch of wimps they are.

Me? interested in the salvation of homosexuals??? LOL LOL LOL...now thats good for a downright good ole belly laugh. "

I copied to my files.

I reported his language to the moderators and they deleated the remarks, and asked him not to continue his abusive language. He then started a new topic about "discrimination"(which was shut down by the TD staff), changed his story to include the fascinating story about the pavilion, to try and justify his words.When several other members denounced his remarks (including Bill Gray), he became belligerent and angry. He was eventually suspended and has now returned as "Jetboy". He now contends that I am the violent one because I suggest that EVERYONE should protect themselves from physical harm in any way necessary. He seems to think just a little verbal abuse, kicking, and "thumping" is not cause for alarm. My question is how does one know if its just getting roughed up or that you are about to be thrown into the trunk of a car, driven into the woods somewhere and beaten to death? I, for one, would not wait to see if I was just going to be smacked around a little. I would protect myself and I highly recommend it to anyone else. My final suggestion was that no one should verbally or physically abuse anyone - that way no one would feel the need to protect themselves. I think that is called "common sense".

I've always heard that the biggest homophobes were those who were afraid of their own homosexual leanings. Don't know if that's true or not, but it would certainly make sense to connect the self-loathing part to its manifestation in being homophobic.

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TheTotalTruth

Two people advocated using guns, meanasasnake and taciturn. I have never needed a gun to ward off homosexuals

I have absolutely no problem with the 2nd Amendment. If an individual feels threatened by some rednec,abusive, homophobe, rascist, moron who may harm them - I strongly support carrying a hand gun for personal PROTECTION. To many people think its their privilege to physically assault individuals who they don't like. NO ONE should have to live in fear, but if you do, take control of the situation and protect yourself. I absolutely advocate using firearms for personal protection - no question.

This bears repeating:

Sort of frightening to think that you can't just smack a gay guy around without fear that he might protect himself ehh? When someone is "thumping" you, or beating you up its hard to tell if they are going to kill you or just satisfy some sadistic validation of masculinity. If someone started verbally abusing you in a parking lot and then proceeded to physically abuse you, would you wait to see if they were going to kill you or would you protect yourself? I say do what ever you have to to protect youself. The best solution would be NOT to verbally or physically abuse ANYONE! That would ensure that no one felt threatened and did not feel the need to protect themselves. Find yourself a new hobby - there is nothing more pathetic than a middle aged playground bully.

P.S. Actually the suggestion of carrying a firearm came from a straight woman, not a gay guy or a lesbian. As Taci pointed out, straight men are the most violent in our society. That is not to say they are all bad but the facts are the facts.

I just discovered this lovely little article published in the "Seattle Weekly", June 21, 2000, about the NRA - thought it might be of interest.

The NRA contends it doesn't care who gets the training, a gun owner is a gun owner. "We don't ask gender or gender preference," says NRA spokesman Jim Manown when asked about gay membership in the organization. "Personally, I run into all sorts of individuals." The rub is that many gays and lesbians might never feel totally comfortable with an organization whose political supporters include a lot of right-wing homophobes. Thus, Cease Fear acts as a bridge between the two communities, promoting safety and gun ownership without the baggage of the NRA.

But with or without the NRA, some gays are decidedly pro-gun—or at least pro-self-defense. A recent article on Salon, Jonathan Rauch, makes the case for gays being armed. In response to mounting hate crimes and gay-bashing incidents, Rauch argues that guns not only can protect gays, but transform them, just as self-defense has empowered Jews. "Guns can do the same thing for homosexuals: emancipate them from their image—often internalized—of cringing weakness. I'll warrant that this would do far more for the self-esteem of the next generation of gay men and women than any number of hate crime laws or antidiscrimination statutes."

Rauch writes, "Let's make gay bashing dangerous."

"Cease Fear" - what a wonderful name for an organization.

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I have absolutely no problem with the 2nd Amendment. If an individual feels threatened by some rednec,abusive, homophobe, rascist, moron who may harm them - I strongly support carrying a hand gun for personal PROTECTION. To many people think its their privilege to physically assault individuals who they don't like. NO ONE should have to live in fear, but if you do, take control of the situation and protect yourself. I absolutely advocate using firearms for personal protection - no question.

Racist??? I agree you need to add something, for you don't have a case otherwise.


BTW; no one has to sit idely by and let homosexuals make sexual advances toward you in public places, or anywhere else for that matter. You wont need a gun though, they run at a big BOO Hew Haw HAWw!

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I just discovered this lovely little article published in the "Seattle Weekly", June 21, 2000, about the NRA - thought it might be of interest.

The NRA contends it doesn't care who gets the training, a gun owner is a gun owner. "We don't ask gender or gender preference," says NRA spokesman Jim Manown when asked about gay membership in the organization. "Personally, I run into all sorts of individuals." The rub is that many gays and lesbians might never feel totally comfortable with an organization whose political supporters include a lot of right-wing homophobes. Thus, Cease Fear acts as a bridge between the two communities, promoting safety and gun ownership without the baggage of the NRA.

But with or without the NRA, some gays are decidedly pro-gun—or at least pro-self-defense. A recent article on Salon, Jonathan Rauch, makes the case for gays being armed. In response to mounting hate crimes and gay-bashing incidents, Rauch argues that guns not only can protect gays, but transform them, just as self-defense has empowered Jews. "Guns can do the same thing for homosexuals: emancipate them from their image—often internalized—of cringing weakness. I'll warrant that this would do far more for the self-esteem of the next generation of gay men and women than any number of hate crime laws or antidiscrimination statutes."

Rauch writes, "Let's make gay bashing dangerous."

Make it DANGEROUS? What are you advocating now?

Is this a veiled threat?

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Originally posted by jetboy:

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I have absolutely no problem with the 2nd Amendment. If an individual feels threatened by some rednec,abusive, homophobe, rascist, moron who may harm them - I strongly support carrying a hand gun for personal PROTECTION. To many people think its their privilege to physically assault individuals who they don't like. NO ONE should have to live in fear, but if you do, take control of the situation and protect yourself. I absolutely advocate using firearms for personal protection - no question.

Racist??? I agree you need to add something, for you don't have a case otherwise.


BTW; no one has to sit idely by and let homosexuals make sexual advances toward you in public places, or anywhere else for that matter. You wont need a gun though, they run at a big BOO Hew Haw HAWw!

Same with women getting unwanted attention from men. All you have to do is say "NO". Its really simple. You may not, according to the law, assault someone who makes an unwanted sexual advance towards anyone. Assault is assault - period. And I hate to tell ya - I do have a case.

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Originally posted by jetboy:

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I just discovered this lovely little article published in the "Seattle Weekly", June 21, 2000, about the NRA - thought it might be of interest.

The NRA contends it doesn't care who gets the training, a gun owner is a gun owner. "We don't ask gender or gender preference," says NRA spokesman Jim Manown when asked about gay membership in the organization. "Personally, I run into all sorts of individuals." The rub is that many gays and lesbians might never feel totally comfortable with an organization whose political supporters include a lot of right-wing homophobes. Thus, Cease Fear acts as a bridge between the two communities, promoting safety and gun ownership without the baggage of the NRA.

But with or without the NRA, some gays are decidedly pro-gun—or at least pro-self-defense. A recent article on Salon, Jonathan Rauch, makes the case for gays being armed. In response to mounting hate crimes and gay-bashing incidents, Rauch argues that guns not only can protect gays, but transform them, just as self-defense has empowered Jews. "Guns can do the same thing for homosexuals: emancipate them from their image—often internalized—of cringing weakness. I'll warrant that this would do far more for the self-esteem of the next generation of gay men and women than any number of hate crime laws or antidiscrimination statutes."

Rauch writes, "Let's make gay bashing dangerous."

Make it DANGEROUS? What are you advocating now?

Is this a veiled threat?

Make it dangerous to assault someone - yes, I advocate personal protection. Absolutely. That is not a threat at all, and it is certainly not "veiled". I am simply saying protect yourself from assault. Legal gun ownership for personal protection is a right in this nation.

Really seems to make some people nervous to think that gay bashing might become a dangerous hobby. Lol........

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Make it dangerous to assault someone - yes, I advocate personal protection. Absolutely.

Thats the way of cowards, wont stand behind what they say.

Ahh....dissembling, rambling and trying to justify a violent nature.

My remarks have been consistant from the beginning. I TOTALLY support ANYONE who chooses to use a firearm for personl protection. Let me repeat Mr Rausch's remark: "Let's make gay bashing dangerous." Lets also make these crimes dangerous :rape, home invasion, car jacking among other violent crimes.

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Ahh....dissembling, rambling and trying to justify a violent nature.

My remarks have been consistant from the beginning. I TOTALLY support ANYONE who chooses to use a firearm for personl protection. Let me repeat Mr Rausch's remark: "Let's make gay bashing dangerous." Lets also make these crimes dangerous :rape, home invasion, car jacking among other violent crimes.

LOL you want to shoot everyone dont you? Not too bad for a non-violent person, just be sure you dont kick anyones ass along the way LOL

No, I have no desire to shoot anyone. But as I have said, I totally support the right of Americans under the 2nd Amendment of our Constitution, to own firearms for personal protection. Not everyone is capable of fending off a physical assault. Sometimes one needs an "equalizer". It almost seems that someone is defending crime. "Oh no, lets not defend ourselves against crime! Someone might get hurt!" Ahahahahahahahahahahahah!

do you think if someone kicked you in the ass you would shoot them?

http://www.ptsalt.com/commentary/loving_homosexuals_to_death

If someone assaulted me I would assume they meant me harm. How is a person supposed to know if the assault will just stop with a "kick"? Would be sort of hard to know. If indeed it did just amount to a "kick" - I would call the cops and have the individual arrested on the spot. If the suspect fled, I would get his tag number and turn him in if I could. You just don't get it do you? You just DO NOT ASSAULT PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THEM. Assault is an illegal act - PERIOD. I really don't care how you try and justify your violent tendencies. It is indefensible. If an individual feels threatened and fears assault, YES, they should defend themselves accordingly. You really need to stop trying to justify violent behavior.

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You just DO NOT ASSAULT PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THEM.

nope, another of your distortions. I kicked the TWO males because they made sexual advances toward me. Kind of like a decent woman slapping a man for unwanted sexual advances. Just shoot 'em all I guess is your answer. Let them put their hands all over you, oh wait, is that the abuse you keep speaking of?

The FDA recognized the policy defers many healthy donors but rejected the suggestion it’s discriminatory.


Pitiful, just plain pitiful. Homosexual men cannot give blood, would you want some of their blood meanasasnake, or whatever name you are using tonight ?

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Anyone who’s used intravenous drugs or been paid for sex also is permanently barred from donating blood.

Thats some pretty good company to be with.

Having been a social worker for over 25 years, I have worked with many, many homosexuals over the years. I can ,in all honesty ,say that I would prefer their company to yours any day.

You have changed your story several times now. I don't believe anything you say at this point. I would STILL suggest that instead of assaulting anyone I would say "NO" and leave. I have filed all your remarks and plan to archive them to disk. Your remarks have a violent, threatening tone that could indicate intent to do harm. The terms of use in this forum allow for criminal investigation.

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If someone assaulted me I would assume they meant me harm. How is a person supposed to know if the assault will just stop with a "kick"? Would be sort of hard to know. If indeed it did just amount to a "kick" - I would call the cops and have the individual arrested on the spot. If the suspect fled, I would get his tag number and turn him in if I could. You just don't get it do you? You just DO NOT ASSAULT PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THEM. Assault is an illegal act - PERIOD. I really don't care how you try and justify your violent tendencies. It is indefensible. If an individual feels threatened and fears assault, YES, they should defend themselves accordingly. You really need to stop trying to justify violent behavior.

you know, I would really like to know, on what grounds do you think you should be telling me how I treat people that make sexual advances toward me? What business is it of yours? You seem to love homosexuals a lot. Does a straight person not have the right to be left alone?

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Having been a social worker for over 25 years, I have worked with many, many homosexuals over the years. I can ,in all honesty ,say that I would prefer their company to yours any day.

I don't doubt that one bit. Says more about you than it does me.

quote:

You have changed your story several times now. I don't believe anything you say at this point. I would STILL suggest that instead of assaulting anyone I would say "NO" and leave. I have filed all your remarks and plan to archive them to disk. Your remarks have a violent, threatening tone that could indicate intent to do harm. The terms of use in this forum allow for criminal investigation.

I haven't changed my story at all, you however have tried to change it.

As for the rest of your THREAT, LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL


If they need my name and address tell them to PM me LOL

EVERYONE has the right to be left alone. All you have to do is say "no". Its that simple. If you resort to violence - you get what you deserve.

Over the years I have known some pretty nasty straight people. Everything you can imagine on earth. Women who beat their kids, husbands who beat their wives, murderers, rapists, thieves - you name it. I have no tolerance for cruelty and violence. It cannot be tolerated. Gay people are by far not the worst thing to come down the pike. Your aversion is your problem - not mine.

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Originally posted by jetboy:

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But honestly now, e has a valid point....what is it about you that you think would be a "turn on" to gay men?

everything about me, I am just lovable. i like gay men, gay men like me, not one thing you can do about it , meanasasnake, err I mean NotFeelingSaf...

My my my....how we have done a turnaround from page 2 to page 4.....ya know jetboy, or whoever you are this week.... sounds to me like you just plain like to try to piss people off. You don't seem to be able to have a "legitimate" position on anything....expecially "gays". So what was the real deal with the guys you ....shall we say, just to be nice, "rejected"? They weren't your type? or maybe you just didn't want a "threesome"? Whatever....doesn't matter to me one way or the other but I am offering the questions for your own personal insight....which you obviously need but will, of course, deny. But there is one truth that not even you can deny....it "feels" a lot better to make friends than it does to make enemies. Of course you can always come back with "not to me, because I don't care" but if you are "human", and I suspect that underneath all that bull you are, it really does "feel" better.
P.S.
I'm not "meanasasnake" ...but I can be when I need to be....lol

quote:

I'm not "meanasasnake" ...but I can be when I need to be....lol

These statistics are for consideration by anyone.

Having used IV drugs and less than 25 years of age ..... 16%3 (of the homosexual community) ..... 1.5% (of the general community) ..... 11 times the prevalence
Engaged in prostitution ..... 24% 3 (of the homosexual community) ..... 0.66% 4 ..... (of the general community) ..... 36 times the prevalence
For transvestites, the figure is 45% 3 engaged in prostitution
Having a lifetime STDs prevalence ..... 70% 3 (of the homosexual community) ..... 4% (of the general community) ..... 18 times the prevalence
Percentage alcoholism ..... 27% 3 (of the homosexual community) ..... 11% 5 (of the general community) ..... 2.5 times the prevalence
Median number of partners ..... 38 per year
Having a brief or no knowledge of partners ..... 90% 4
Involved in whipping, sadism or masochism ..... 21% 3 (of the homosexual community) Sadism and 'anti-violence' (1997 Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras, page 99) are somewhat incongruous.
Of those with HIV, having anogenital warts ..... 92%
Of those not having HIV and having anogenital warts ..... 76% 3
Acquired multiple wart virus subtypes, within 17 months ..... 75% 3 (of the homosexual community)
Involved in 'rimming' (mouth to anus contact) .....61% 3 (of the homosexual community)
Having anal pre-cancer ..... 18.0% (of the homosexual community) .... 0.03% 8 (of the general community) ..... 650 times the prevalence
Having HIV ( < 25 years 10%, > 25 years 24% ) ..... 21.8% 3 (of the homosexual community)
Average age of death from AIDS ..... 35.7 years
Expected average life span ..... 45 years (of the homosexual community) ..... 70 years 10 (of the general community)

References:
3 Sydney Men And Sexual Health (SMASH) Study, 1995, Volume B2, Australian Society of HIV Medicine.
4 International Social Science Program (ISSP), Component of the National Social Science Survey (NSSS), of the Social Sciences Data Archives (SSDA), at the Australian National University (ANU). Family Life Survey 1989-90.
5 Statistics on Drug Abuse in Australia in 1994. Commonwealth Department of Human Services and Health. AGPS, ISSN 0817 - 3575.
6 Kippax S. (1995) Predictors of unprotected male-to-male anal intercourse with casual partners in a national sample. Australian Journal of Public Health 19:2:132.
7 Kiviat 1993 as reported in Mindel 1995, Human Papilloma Virus Edward Arnold. p70.
8 Melbye M. (1994) High incidence of anal cancer among AIDS patients. Lancet. 343 (I) :636.
9 Gold J., Yeuming L., Kaldor J. (?1994) Premature Mortality in Australia 1983 -1992; The first decade of the AIDS Epidemic.
10 Australian Social Trends 1995 ABS Canberra.

News report from the Sydney Star Observer 25 Feb 1999
Infection rates of the sexually transmitted disease (STD) gonorrhoea among gay men are increasing at epidemic proportions. Some doctors have likened the increase to an epidemic between 1983 and 1985 when HIV infection rates also rose. By the end of last year, gonorrhoea infections had increased by almost 50 per cent across NSW, Professor John Tapsall from the Prince of Wales Hospital Gonococcal Reference Laboratory said yesterday. Inner Sydney medical centres are also reporting a rise in gonorrhoea infections, and according to a spokesperson for the Sydney Sexual Health Centre, there is anecdotal evidence of an increase in other STDs. Tapsall said the increase was not an "isolated phenomenon" in Sydney. He said increases in gonorrhoea infection are being reported in Melbourne, San Francisco and Seattle, predominantly among gay men. In 1996 the Sydney laboratory reported over 700 gonorrhoea isolates. This rose to 900 in 1997, and by the end of 1998 almost 1,400 isolates had been reported in NSW. South Eastern Sydney Area Health Service (SEAHS) have also experienced an upsurge in infections in inner Sydney with 506 cases reported in 1998 compared to 293 in 1997 and 261 in 1996. AIDS Council of NSW chief executive officer Robert Griew said the increase was making "more people vulnerable to HIV infection" and was "very dangerous to positive people’s health". In 1997, a study published in The Lancet found the viral load in HIV positive men with gonorrhoea was eight times higher. Surry Hills Medical Centre are holding an information session on gonorrhoea To register phone 9699 3311.

I do think that Ray/Jetboy was caught once with a towel around his head singing a Cher song with a hairbrush as microphone by his parents as a child and then beaten -- or else ran into a particularly drunken and nasty Paul Lynde at a taping of the Hollywood Squares. What else could explain such irrational fear?
We must thank him for his links to the prayin' Coach and Americans for Truth and Gay Bashing or however they style themselves. These are useful bookmarks for composite characters for my ongoing sarcasm.
I think I shall use the "drag name" of "Miss Massengil Park-Cruiser" for my future roman a clef. This character will be a C of C preacher who has a heart attack in the large girls department at a deparment store in Atlanta wearing his "Queen of Somoa" lingerie. He is noted for both his Paul Lynde and Cher impersonations with his select few male companions alongside his vehement public denouncing of the "h*m*s*x*al agenda" in public.%

%(Gentle Readers of delicate sensibilities, decency does not permit the author from spelling out with all vowels the notorious perversion of the "Love that Dares Not Speak its Name.")

Was it "Half Breed" or "Gypsys Tramps and Thieves" that undid you, sir?

Neal, having lived in Lexington for a few years, I'm surprised you have made no better choice for your lead character than a pulpit minister in the church of Christ.

I could not begin to enumerate the local "characters" I encountered while I lived there, and only one of them was a member of the church of Christ. The local joke was her husband had to die to get away from her because she didn't believe in divorce.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by jetboy:


Having used IV drugs and less than 25 years of age ..... 16%3 (of the homosexual community) ..... 1.5% (of the general community) ..... 11 times the prevalence
Engaged in prostitution ..... 24% 3 (of the homosexual community) ..... 0.66% 4 ..... (of the general community) ..... 36 times the prevalence
For transvestites, the figure is 45% 3 engaged in prostitution
Having a lifetime STDs prevalence ..... 70% 3 (of the homosexual community) ..... 4% (of the general community) ..... 18 times the prevalence
Percentage alcoholism ..... 27% 3 (of the homosexual community) ..... 11% 5 (of the general community) ..... 2.5 times the prevalence
Median number of partners ..... 38 per year
Having a brief or no knowledge of partners ..... 90% 4
Involved in whipping, sadism or masochism ..... 21% 3 (of the homosexual community) Sadism and 'anti-violence' (1997 Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras, page 99) are somewhat incongruous.
Of those with HIV, having anogenital warts ..... 92%
Of those not having HIV and having anogenital warts ..... 76% 3
Acquired multiple wart virus subtypes, within 17 months ..... 75% 3 (of the homosexual community)
Involved in 'rimming' (mouth to anus contact) .....61% 3 (of the homosexual community)
Having anal pre-cancer ..... 18.0% (of the homosexual community) .... 0.03% 8 (of the general community) ..... 650 times the prevalence
Having HIV ( < 25 years 10%, > 25 years 24% ) ..... 21.8% 3 (of the homosexual community)
Average age of death from AIDS ..... 35.7 years
Expected average life span ..... 45 years (of the homosexual community) ..... 70 years 10 (of the general community)

Jetboy- Given the alarming stats. above you should probably be smart and engage in safer sex. So next time have your partner wear a condom for your personal health and safety.

Thanks for the information. Always good to have a professional opinion. I am providing a link that may add to the information you provided the members of the Times Daily Forum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPZBTszZbyU&feature=related

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Originally posted by jetboy:

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You just DO NOT ASSAULT PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THEM.

nope, another of your distortions. I kicked the TWO males because they made sexual advances toward me. Kind of like a decent woman slapping a man for unwanted sexual advances. Just shoot 'em all I guess is your answer. Let them put their hands all over you, oh wait, is that the abuse you keep speaking of?

Not that I care one way or the other, but jetboy admitted he is 46:1 already with the above. That's 46:1's story he's commenting on as though it happened to him...thus the same person. Just an FYI if anyone cares to know.

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These statistics are for consideration by anyone.

Evidently stolen from http://www.christianarsenal.com/HomoHealth.htm

In today's society Homosexuality and Lesbianism are being hailed by many as a normal healthy life styles. Many laudatory and complimentary things are being reported and circulated about these individuals. We at The Christian Arsenal believe that the people in this life style are precious in God's site just as we all are. We believe that they should be treated with the same dignity as anyone. We however disagree with their position in the matter of sexuality. We do not look down on them, we disagree with them. These statistics are for consideration by anyone.



Yes, that is certainly an unbiased source for accurate scientific information. 25% of homosexuals are prostitutes? Yeah, riiiight.

Even if all the stats were true (they aren't) that is still no justification for hating them because of who they are.

Glad someone looked up the source. I was too busy laughing to type a few of them in the search engine block myself.
Most of them sound as if they fit that holy rolly preacher from Colorado with the meth problem and boyfriend he paid and a certain senator from Idaho more than the gay community at large to me!
Unnatural sex acts? Did someone have to take a class, kindle fire, flake stone, or work metal in order for the love that dares not speak its name be made complete?
It is truly astonishing that so few can be so outraged and loud about something which does not concern them at all -- it seems right unhealthy to me, all this constant jabber about h*m*s*x*ality and about as annoying as all the dash of Isiah, smidgen of Daniel and heaping tea spoon of Revelation for determining the mechanism(s) of the end of the world. It seems as silly as picking out people with facial warts for abuse.
Mrs. Patrick Campbell said it best, "So long as they do not do it in the streets and frighten the horses . . . ."

quote:

Originally posted by GoFish:

quote:

These statistics are for consideration by anyone.

Evidently stolen from http://www.christianarsenal.com/HomoHealth.htm

In today's society Homosexuality and Lesbianism are being hailed by many as a normal healthy life styles. Many laudatory and complimentary things are being reported and circulated about these individuals. We at The Christian Arsenal believe that the people in this life style are precious in God's site just as we all are. We believe that they should be treated with the same dignity as anyone. We however disagree with their position in the matter of sexuality. We do not look down on them, we disagree with them. These statistics are for consideration by anyone.

Yes, that is certainly an unbiased source for accurate scientific information. 25% of homosexuals are prostitutes? Yeah, riiiight.

Even if all the stats were true (they aren't) that is still no justification for hating them because of who they are.

Hi Fish,

You truly amaze me. Do you EVER read the information BEFORE you comment on it. I have not visited that web site; but, I did read the paragraph excerpted -- and I do NOT find hate in that statement. I see love, repect, dignity for the individual -- but, disagreement on the lifestyle.

Yet, you see HATE. Where?

Or is your goal just to stir up discord?

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Bill, I'm still waiting on you to stand up and admit you lied about me.

quote:

Yes, that is certainly an unbiased source for accurate scientific information.

They gave their sources,

"References:
3 Sydney Men And Sexual Health (SMASH) Study, 1995, Volume B2, Australian Society of HIV Medicine.
4 International Social Science Program (ISSP), Component of the National Social Science Survey (NSSS), of the Social Sciences Data Archives (SSDA), at the Australian National University (ANU). Family Life Survey 1989-90.
5 Statistics on Drug Abuse in Australia in 1994. Commonwealth Department of Human Services and Health. AGPS, ISSN 0817 - 3575.
6 Kippax S. (1995) Predictors of unprotected male-to-male anal intercourse with casual partners in a national sample. Australian Journal of Public Health 19:2:132.
7 Kiviat 1993 as reported in Mindel 1995, Human Papilloma Virus Edward Arnold. p70.
8 Melbye M. (1994) High incidence of anal cancer among AIDS patients. Lancet. 343 (I) :636.
9 Gold J., Yeuming L., Kaldor J. (?1994) Premature Mortality in Australia 1983 -1992; The first decade of the AIDS Epidemic.
10 Australian Social Trends 1995 ABS Canberra."


If you care to refute with stats, please do, but " Even if all the stats were true (they aren't)" doesn't quite cut it! Thats school yard stuff.

This thread is total insanity. I left for a week and I can't even begin to make sense of what has been added.

The topic is "Discussion Blocked". Regardless of what jetboy or anyone thinks about the unfairness of being blocked, the moderator found SOMETHING you said offensive.

Here's a tip. If you don't want to defend somthing you have said or you can't handle being the bad guy, stop posting personal information.

What you said about your encounter with the 2 homosexual men was more information than anyone else has posted. Most people say "Yes I know a homosexual" or "No I don't".

No one else on this entire forum has posted details about their reaction (and form of retaliation) against 2 homosexual men.

Was this encounter at Wilson or Veterans Park? You seemed to KNOW for CERTAIN that these are "gay" parks. Let me ask, why were YOU there?

quote:

Originally posted by jetboy:
Bill, I'm still waiting on you to stand up and admit you lied about me.

Hi Jetboy,

The post below was posted on May 3rd -- and, as I said then, if you were not the one who complained -- then, I apologize. However, as my favorite television lawyer, Benjamin Matlock, would say, "With every piece of evidence pointing toward you, you shore enough look guilty." But, good old Matlock has gotten some shaky characters off -- so, I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

On the other hand, Mr. Shakespeare also wrote, "Methinks he doth protest too much" or something to that effect. Or, something else Matlock might say, "That old hen shore is squawking a lot, considering she ain't even laid a egg yet!"

So, my Friend, since neither of us can prove his case -- why don't we just put it behind us and find something beneficial to discuss?

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

quote:

Originally posted by jetboy:

quote:

and I admit that until you complained to EH and she PMed me,

you are a liar Bill. You keep saying that I reported you the EH@timesdaily. That is why I posted this thread, hoping EH will tell why it was removed.

Does your God allow you to lie so freely?

I agree it did kind of make you look like a fool, you trying to be a smartass with the book of snoopy while at the same time you were stealing protected material.

Hi Jetboy,

It is possible that you are not the one who complained to EH. However, you are the only one who made an issue of the comic strip copyright. As a matter of fact, from what I have seen, you are the only one who even noticed it. I have had the comic strip in my image archive for a long time, and I posted the comic strip -- and I never noticed it. And EH stated in a PM that it was not her who noticed it. As she said, we are a self-policing Forum -- which means that she was not looking for a problem. However when it was pointed out to her by someone complaining -- she had to do something; so she deleted the post and sent me a PM.

When I got her initial PM about copyrighted material, I was confused and thought she was talking about the excerpt from the abortion web page I had put in my post. I asked why that was wrong; and this is when she mentioned the comic strip and implied that it was brought to her attention. Since you are the only person who seemed to notice the copyright faux pas -- I assumed it had to be you who complained.

If I was wrong in that assumption; then, I do apologize. If I am right in that assumption -- let's just put it behind us and go on with more meaningful dialogues.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

quote:

Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Hi Jetboy,
If I am right in that assumption -- let's just put it behind us and go on with more meaningful dialogues.
Bill

Meaningful dialogue? jetboy?
Nah...not possible.

quote:

Originally posted by _Joy_:

quote:

Originally posted by jetboy:

quote:

You just DO NOT ASSAULT PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THEM.

nope, another of your distortions. I kicked the TWO males because they made sexual advances toward me. Kind of like a decent woman slapping a man for unwanted sexual advances. Just shoot 'em all I guess is your answer. Let them put their hands all over you, oh wait, is that the abuse you keep speaking of?

Not that I care one way or the other, but jetboy admitted he is 46:1 already with the above. That's 46:1's story he's commenting on as though it happened to him...thus the same person. Just an FYI if anyone cares to know.

At least now they can see that I am not jetboy, especially since I am a woman,,a wife,, and a mother.... thakn you for showing this comment....

and 46:1 is still roaming around the TD forums trying to terrorize people with his discriminating self under the alias jetboy LOL how many more alias's you have jet46;1boy?

Could be off his meds again 2 each

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Justasking
Small Talker

Posted 07 May 2008 11:56 AM Hide Post
Could be off his meds again 2 each

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Originally posted by 2_each_its_own:

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Justasking
Small Talker

Posted 07 May 2008 11:56 AM Hide Post
Could be off his meds again 2 each

I like his first nickname " Ratboy "

So many NAMES!! I would forget who I am supposed to be today LOL

quote:

Originally posted by TheTotalTruth:

quote:

Originally posted by _Joy_:

quote:

Originally posted by jetboy:

quote:

You just DO NOT ASSAULT PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THEM.

nope, another of your distortions. I kicked the TWO males because they made sexual advances toward me. Kind of like a decent woman slapping a man for unwanted sexual advances. Just shoot 'em all I guess is your answer. Let them put their hands all over you, oh wait, is that the abuse you keep speaking of?

Not that I care one way or the other, but jetboy admitted he is 46:1 already with the above. That's 46:1's story he's commenting on as though it happened to him...thus the same person. Just an FYI if anyone cares to know.

At least now they can see that I am not jetboy, especially since I am a woman,,a wife,, and a mother.... thakn you for showing this comment....

Clueless here , but you are most welcome. I have been swamped this week & can't keep up with current threads.

quote:

Originally posted by jetboy:

quote:

I'm not "meanasasnake" ...but I can be when I need to be....lol

You know what, jetboy? I owe you an apology. I couldn't see why you were so hostile and twisting everyone's remarks around to turn them into an attack...making them want to attack back. But reading through a lot more of these threads and paying attention to who was doing the posting, I see you are not the only one doing that. They... "some, not all" ...are doing the same thing to you as well as others. There seems to be little "clicks" on here, much like it was in highschool, where one will head out as leader of the pack and the other members of their little "click" will fall in like a pack of wolves with their snide and catty remarks. I apologize for joining them before I really understood what was going on. Just that old High School mentality kicking in I guess. But now I understand a little better. That doesn't mean I approve of your remarks....just that I understand why you made them. I won't be here to see any response you may want to make so all I can do is hope you accept my apology. I am going back to a forum where I can actually converse with adults. This place is more like a teen-age chatroom. Good Luck to you.

P.S. Did you see where Bill actually called me Jetboy? Isn't that a laugh for both of us.

Keep smiling.

Bill Gray wrote...

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So, my Friend, since neither of us can prove his case -- why don't we just put it behind us and find something beneficial to discuss?

You should not be representing God in one breath and falsely accusing in the next. If I were the kind to run crying to the mods, I would turn in TNT , or taciturn (I forget) for saying they would get a vet to PUT ME DOWN. (kill me). I am true to my convictions Bill, to bad you can't say the same. They say when one truly becomes a Christian, the pride is the first thing to go!


Since you like quotes...

"How easy it is to judge rightly after one sees what evil comes from judging wrongly!”

Elizabeth Gaskell

quote:

You know what, jetboy? I owe you an apology. I couldn't see why you were so hostile and twisting everyone's remarks around to turn them into an attack...making them want to attack back. But reading through a lot more of these threads and paying attention to who was doing the posting, I see you are not the only one doing that. They... "some, not all" ...are doing the same thing to you as well as others. There seems to be little "clicks" on here, much like it was in highschool, where one will head out as leader of the pack and the other members of their little "click" will fall in like a pack of wolves with their snide and catty remarks. I apologize for joining them before I really understood what was going on. Just that old High School mentality kicking in I guess. But now I understand a little better. That doesn't mean I approve of your remarks....just that I understand why you made them. I won't be here to see any response you may want to make so all I can do is hope you accept my apology. I am going back to a forum where I can actually converse with adults. This place is more like a teen-age chatroom. Good Luck to you.

P.S. Did you see where Bill actually called me Jetboy? Isn't that a laugh for both of us.

Keep smiling.

No need to apologise...many are duped, even the moderators sometimes.

"They deem him their worst enemy who tells them the truth."

Plato

quote:

Originally posted by jetboy:
Bill Gray wrote...

quote:

So, my Friend, since neither of us can prove his case -- why don't we just put it behind us and find something beneficial to discuss?

You should not be representing God in one breath and falsely accusing in the next. If I were the kind to run crying to the mods, I would turn in TNT , or taciturn (I forget) for saying they would get a vet to PUT ME DOWN. (kill me). I am true to my convictions Bill, to bad you can't say the same. They say when one truly becomes a Christian, the pride is the first thing to go!


Since you like quotes...

"How easy it is to judge rightly after one sees what evil comes from judging wrongly!”

Elizabeth Gaskell

Get your story straight jetboy ,,I have never ,nor will I ever say something to the affect of having someone killed ? Are you nuts ?

quote:

Originally posted by Taciturn:
I have carried a gun for safety....but not once in my mind was it to protect myself from anyone gay.
It's the straight men that rape & kill that scare me.
Someone will find fault in my words but I don't give a rat's behind what people think anymore.

quote:

Originally posted by jetboy:
Two people advocated using guns, meanasasnake and taciturn. I have never needed a gun to ward off homosexuals

Get your story straight, jetboy...read my post. Never once did I say I advocated using a gun. I wouldn't like it but you can bet I would use it if my life was being threatened. It wouldn't be a homosexual threatening my life either...it would be a straight man that gets his kicks from raping and/or killing.
My having a gun & a permit to carry it was my husband's idea....he wanted me to have a way to protect myself if the need were to arise.

quote:

Originally posted by jetboy:
If I were the kind to run crying to the mods, I would turn in TNT , or taciturn (I forget) for saying they would get a vet to PUT ME DOWN. (kill me).

quote:

Originally posted by tnt5862:
Posted 06 May 2008 06:23 AM
(Thread: Removal of copyrighted material)
Your such a sick puppy ,, I know a good Vet that might help put you down . lol

Jetboy, get your quotes right before you stick my name to them.
Sorry, tnt.

quote:

Originally posted by Taciturn:

quote:

Originally posted by Taciturn:
I have carried a gun for safety....but not once in my mind was it to protect myself from anyone gay.
It's the straight men that rape & kill that scare me.
Someone will find fault in my words but I don't give a rat's behind what people think anymore.

quote:

Originally posted by jetboy:
Two people advocated using guns, meanasasnake and taciturn. I have never needed a gun to ward off homosexuals

Get your story straight, jetboy...read my post. Never once did I say I advocated using a gun. I wouldn't like it but you can bet I would use it if my life was being threatened. It wouldn't be a homosexual threatening my life either...it would be a straight man that gets his kicks from raping and/or killing.
My having a gun & a permit to carry it was my husband's idea....he wanted me to have a way to protect myself if the need were to arise.

quote:

Originally posted by jetboy:
If I were the kind to run crying to the mods, I would turn in TNT , or taciturn (I forget) for saying they would get a vet to PUT ME DOWN. (kill me).

quote:

Originally posted by tnt5862:
Posted 06 May 2008 06:23 AM
(Thread: Removal of copyrighted material)
Your such a sick puppy ,, I know a good Vet that might help put you down . lol

Jetboy, get your quotes right before you stick my name to them.
Sorry, tnt.

No problm tac ,,lol

I knew I said something about the vet and putting down ,,but I didnt say have him killed he said that .lol
I stay in the crap list .
But with posters like jetboy or whoever he is today ,,always getting banned for their motuh ,then come back in a new name and start the same crap ,,,gets me on them everytime .
I;ve never been banned yet ,,,may happen today ,,but for now I can stand proud that I have went by the rules here .

[QUOTE]Originally posted by tnt5862:
No problm tac ,,lol
I stay in the crap list .

Don't feel bad....I've been there & still am. I don't give a rats behind about the ones that put me there.

But with posters like jetboy or whoever he is today ,,always getting banned for their motuh ,then come back in a new name and start the same crap ,,,

jetboy/46:1 will be banned again if he keeps going the way he is.
Of course, we know he will reincarnate
himself......again.

Ol jetboy just blowing off some steam.He can dish it out but he can't take what someone dishes out at him.
Remember jetboy, what comes around goes around.
and it just might come back and bite you real good one day.

I only read the first post and I didn't see the original post so I don't really know what homosexuals and what park you are talking about.
Having said that, is it really that big of a problem?
Maybe I have "I'm NOT a homosexual" written all over me so I don't have that problem but seriously, how often are straight men getting hit on by fairies?

As far as my gun, I keep my gun with me to protect me from HARM. If that harm comes from an aggressive homosexual or a religious nutjob, it doesn't matter, it's not violence if I am protecting myself or my family.

The ol' "Just say NO" approach should do the
trick...but, of course, I have never been approached by a gay woman (or man)

But, on the other hand, there were a couple of hetero males I was tempted to take a gun to; but we won't talk about my exes.....
(JUST KIDDING!!!)

Monet why bump a thread up thats 3 months old and not really say anything ?

Good Question T.

Didn't realize...oh well, time to change the glassed

We were all created by the same God and we are all loved equally. How does any person decide what is right for another? I thought we were not supposed to judge?