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Hi to everyone,

Reading 46:1's discussion asking why the discrimination; I read the last post where someone suggested getting a gun for protection against homosexuals.

I had begun to respond to this when I noticed the discussion had been frozen -- which is good.

However, I still want to make a statement: I do not believe that the suggestion to carry a gun to keep homosexuals in the park from coming on to a person -- is a very good idea. As a matter of fact, I find it a frightening suggestion.

Anytime a civilian is armed with a gun, in the park or otherwise, there is always a possibility of violence, of someone being harmed.

What is the best way to respond when a homosexual comes on to you? First off, just walk away. If they pursue you, do as someone suggested and call the police. Most of us have cell phones today; easy to call the police.

Personally, over the years I have found that walking away works. Only once did I have to tell a guy, "Look, I am straight. I accept the fact that you are gay -- but, I am not. So, if you cannot accept that, tough." And, he left me alone. Easy, no gun required, no violence required, I did not even have to get nasty or abusive. Try it. It works. And, if not, call the police.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill
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Originally posted by Bill Gray:

What is the best way to respond when a homosexual comes on to you? First off, just walk away.


I think the polite, Christian, response would be the same, heterosexual or homosexual, and it should be, "No thank you, I am not interested." What you are describing is a predator, regardless of orientation. That un-Christian prejudice just pops up in the darndest places now doesn't it?
Wheather you are gay or straight, male or female "no" means NO. Thankfully straight women don't shoot every time men hit on them - there would be lots of dead men and lots of women on death row. I have been hit on in malls, grocery stores, and even the Post Office. I have also been followed and harrassed by straight men. This is not just a "gay" issue. From another perspective we must remember that male on male rape is very rare and, like all rape, really has nothing to do with "sex", but has more to do with control, humiliation and violence.

The whole issue of "cruising" in public parks has been around for years. In the mid 90s the Florence police did a sting and arrested 30+ individuals soliciting sex. Initially they were going to publish all the names in the paper as a deterrent. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the men turned out to be married with families. I vividly recall the police officer being interviewed saying "we are not trying to invade anyones privacy, or ruin their lives. We just want to stop the park "cruising". Most of the gay people I know are in relationships. Those who are not have discovered more civilized ways of meeting people. As the whole Larry Craig story has pointed out - for married men who lead double lives, and are from a generation accustomed to lying about their orientation because it was more socially acceptable than being "out", there is a whole culture involved in clandestine sexual activity. I must remind everyone, however, that this promiscuity is not just a gay man "thing" - it is a MAN thing. Straight men are worse simply because there are more of them. Casanova, Wilt Chamberland and Warren Beatty (among many others)all had over 1000 *women and they were/are straight.

As we know, there are those who would do harm to gay people for no other reason than they exist. I have always been an advocate for everyone knowing how to properly defend themselves against violence. If you feel threatened let someone know. Call the cops, yell, make a scene - do what ever is neccessary to protect yourself. If that means carrying a gun - so be it. It would be an idiot that would assume that gay people are incapable of defending themselves.

*Women are pretty bad too. It takes two to tango.
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Outside of prisons, I don't think same sex rapes are a very common occurrance.

I personally think that our resident numeral:numeral poster was frightened by a performance of Cher in her "Half Breed" costume as a child, followed by a traumatic experience with Paul Lynde on the Hollywood Squares.

But all humor aside, all that rhetoric only shows that the Matthew Shepherd "got what he was deserving" and "gay panic defenses" still have adherents in this country.

Isn't legislating against a sexual identity like legislating against rain on weekends?

With wild eyed fanatics packing heat everywhere they go, is there any wonder they soon find a "need" to "defend themselves"? Most people find an unwanted advance of any type is usually stymied by a simple walking away or saying "Go away."
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
Wheather you are gay or straight, male or female "no" means NO. Thankfully straight women don't shoot every time men hit on them - there would be lots of dead men and lots of women on death row. I have been hit on in malls, grocery stores, and even the Post Office. I have also been followed and harrassed by straight men. This is not just a "gay" issue. From another perspective we must remember that male on male rape is very rare and, like all rape, really has nothing to do with "sex", but has more to do with control, humiliation and violence.

The whole issue of "cruising" in public parks has been around for years. In the mid 90s the Florence police did a sting and arrested 30+ individuals soliciting sex. Initially they were going to publish all the names in the paper as a deterrent. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the men turned out to be married with families. I vividly recall the police officer being interviewed saying "we are not trying to invade anyones privacy, or ruin their lives. We just want to stop the park "cruising". Most of the gay people I know are in relationships. Those who are not have discovered more civilized ways of meeting people. As the whole Larry Craig story has pointed out - for married men who lead double lives, and are from a generation accustomed to lying about their orientation because it was more socially acceptable than being "out", there is a whole culture involved in clandestine sexual activity. I must remind everyone, however, that this promiscuity is not just a gay man "thing" - it is a MAN thing. Straight men are worse simply because there are more of them. Casanova, Wilt Chamberland and Warren Beatty (among many others)all had over 1000 *women and they were/are straight.

As we know, there are those who would do harm to gay people for no other reason than they exist. I have always been an advocate for everyone knowing how to properly defend themselves against violence. If you feel threatened let someone know. Call the cops, yell, make a scene - do what ever is neccessary to protect yourself. If that means carrying a gun - so be it. It would be an idiot that would assume that gay people are incapable of defending themselves.

*Women are pretty bad too. It takes two to tango.


I have to agree on this mean.

I am a young female and I can't go anywhere without seeing "elevator eyes" or being howled/whistled at. I'm a married woman now and that seems to make it even worse! I can be holding my husband's hand, and I find men are staring and trying to make gestures at me.

I have been hit on by lesbians only once or twice in my life. And when I explained to them I was in a long term relationship with a man, they understood. It didn't stop them from being nice people or us being friendly. They understood WHY I wasn't interested and it took away the "mystery". Also, they didn't hit on me in some flamboyant, predatory way. It was casually and they were just trying to figure out whether I was gay or straight. All I had to do was tell them and it was left at that. Nothing hard.

It's so funny reading some of the posts on here. I can just picture some of the posters finding out that someone they are having a conversation with is gay. I see them running and screaming as if it were "The Blob" or some cheesey sci-fi movie. Hilarious.

You can't "catch" homosexuality. It doesn't work that way. Children don't "learn" it either. They may understand homosexuality more because of who their parent is, but that will not make them gay.

Sadly, I predict more acts like Matthew Shepherd because there are still many homophobes that exist. If more people who threaten homosexuals become lawmakers, it might even become legal to kill homosexuals.

It scares me at the extent that some people are able to hate. I didn't really know HOW to hate growing up. I didn't like things or people, but HATE. I just never experienced that. I get so terrified reading some of the posts on this forum.

Imagine someone coming out on this forum?!? Talk about bloodshed....

I have to agree with Neal. It sounds like a lot of people are not very comfortable with themselves. I guess it could be the fear of the unknown as well.
First of all carrying a gun to protect yourself from homosexual advances is absurd. Anyone who knows the gay culture could tell you that decades of being shot at has produced a generation of bullet proof homosexuals many with the strength of several men.

They also like to travel in packs of up to 20 so a gun is of little protection. When I go to the park I usually wear a explosive vest and I've also undertaken the precaution of having my bottom sewn up.

Years ago while at the park I had a guy nod as if to say hi and although I was armed I wasn't sure whether or not to open fire. This got me looking into new technologies and I stumbled on the AF-400W which is a personal drone plane. For only 425 million per year the drone - equipped with Vista Gaydar Express Home Edition is capable of firing up to 24 short range missiles at any approaching homosexual within a 300 year radius.

Of course not everyone has 425 million dollars a year to spend or the luxury of being able to reroute their intestinal tract. For a lot less you can have your penis reshaped into a vagina which has been clinically proven to eliminate the threat of homosexual atack.
It is not, however, "absurd" for a homosexual to carry a gun in order to protect themselves from deranged straight men who are so insecure with their on inclinations that they can and do kill homosexuals simply because they exist. Would any one of us like to see your son hanging like a scarecrow from a fence post? Judy Shepard had just that experience.
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Originally posted by David L.:
Well, of course there are exceptions! Just like some straight women are attracted to gay men.


Yes. And the straight men who are sure that one night with them would be enough to convert every lesbian they know. Big Grin

But it seems the most conceited of all are the honest-to-goodness gay-bashers who are convinced that they can't turn a corner without being hit on by a gay person.

Something tells me your earlier observation was spot on.

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