Do you believe in witches and demons?

Yes, and no.

Supernatural witches and demons no. "Real life" mean a**ed people can be witches and demons. Harry Potter isn't evil. Kids love Harry Potter. The bible scares them.

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Originally posted by b50m:
Yes, and no.

I DO, I DO, I DO believe in witches!!!!!!!!!!!!! A house fell on one (WONDER WHO?????) on the Tuscaloosa News Forum and banished HER to the land of the North!!!

AND ALL THE MUNCHKINS SAY....................
Ding Dong the wicked witch of the North is DEAD!!!!!!!!!!! (Metaphorically speaking )
THANKS NSNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Jennifer:
Supernatural witches and demons no. "Real life" mean a**ed people can be witches and demons. Harry Potter isn't evil. Kids love Harry Potter. The bible scares them.

KIDS LOVE CHOCOLATE ALSO! - BUT, DO YOU LET YOUR CHILDREN LIVE ON A DIET OF CHOCOLATE?

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Originally posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:
Jesus spent a lot of time and effort exorcising such. Do you think they exist? And if you do, is Harry Potter evil?

Hi Deep,

Jesus spent time driving out evil spirits, not exorcising witches. The spirits Jesus drove out of people were the demonic spirits, i.e., angels, who followed Satan when he rebelled against God.

Is Harry Potter bad for young children? YES!

Why? Because it glamorizes witches, witchcraft, and other New Age demons. No child should be allowed to read such tripe or see the movies. Just my opinion.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Bill, I would bet that you consider The Wizard of Oz to be a bad movie too.

Witches, witchcraft.... New Age?
Surprise, there is absolutely nothing "new" about New Age.

Guess what "Give me that old time religion" in the truest sense refers to?

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Originally posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:
Jesus spent a lot of time and effort exorcising such. Do you think they exist?

And if you do, is Harry Potter evil?

nsns

uhh slim, who is Harry Hotter?

Nope. I don't.

Absolutely...but not ghosts.

Bill Gray, have you ever read Harry Potter? I have and I can tell you that any child smart enough to read those books is smart enough to know the difference in fact and fiction. The Harry Potter story emphasizes the power of good over evil. In that way, it isn't that different from reading the Bible.

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Originally posted by bhuepque:
Bill Gray, have you ever read Harry Potter? I have and I can tell you that any child smart enough to read those books is smart enough to know the difference in fact and fiction. The Harry Potter story emphasizes the power of good over evil. In that way, it isn't that different from reading the Bible.

Good point, after all they are both works of fiction.

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Originally posted by savinforarainyday:
Absolutely...but not ghosts.

Agreed.

Doesn't matter what Bill Gray & I say or think. God (if you don't want to believe; sorry for your luck sister) hates witchcraft and idolators. I take offense at the remark smart kids read Harry Potter. My kid is smart, a 94 average is pretty good. I read everything before she does. I read Harry Potter (not my taste) it's not appropriate. Neither is Twilight or George Lopez or Shake it Up or many other things. If other parents want to allow these things OK but don't down me because I don't allow them.

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No child should be allowed to read such tripe or see the movies.

That's what I think about the bible.

Thanks, all.

We all see the trend. Our religious friends seem willing to believe in all sorts of superstitions. We atheists are much more unlikely to.

Perhaps P.Z. Myers is right. Atheism is part of a larger movement of rationalists, scientists, and skeptics who are beginning to insist on evidence for claims of knowledge at all costs. The time for patience with superstition is over.

http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2...rs-on-tvontario.html

Opie makes a point. The bible and Harry Potter are all works of fiction. The difference is, J.K. Rowling doesn't claim Harry Potter is not.


nsns

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Originally posted by yellowdogdemocrat:
Doesn't matter what Bill Gray & I say or think. God (if you don't want to believe; sorry for your luck sister) hates witchcraft and idolators. I take offense at the remark smart kids read Harry Potter. My kid is smart, a 94 average is pretty good. I read everything before she does. I read Harry Potter (not my taste) it's not appropriate. Neither is Twilight or George Lopez or Shake it Up or many other things. If other parents want to allow these things OK but don't down me because I don't allow them.

You seem to be a very repressive parent. Let's hope your kid goes away to college and has the blinders removed.

Don't be surprised if your kid rejects Christianity as an adult.

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Originally posted by buffalo:

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Originally posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:
Jesus spent a lot of time and effort exorcising such. Do you think they exist?

And if you do, is Harry Potter evil?

nsns

uhh slim, who is Harry Hotter?

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buff,,,,,,,Harry Potter is someone who made a billionaire
out of a deserving english woman and brought hours of fun to an untold
number of people.

The part I like best is the thousands of people employed to produce the
books and movies, good for business. The stories are harmless.


.

Don't be surprised if the kid is only allowed to go to Liberty University or some similar Jesus Tech.


nsns

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Originally posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:
Don't be surprised if the kid is only allowed to go to Liberty University or some similar Jesus Tech.

nsns

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Don't be surprised if the kid goes to Heaven.


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Originally posted by INVICTUS:

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Originally posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:
Don't be surprised if the kid is only allowed to go to Liberty University or some similar Jesus Tech.

nsns

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Don't be surprised if the kid goes to Heaven.


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If he endures Liberty U, he deserves heaven. He'd have already been through hell.


nsns

It's sad that parents puts such restrictions on a child all in the name of religion. It's as though they're sending a message that if you read certain books/do certain things, you can't be a Christian & you'll go to hell.
There comes a point you have to step back & let that child be a child.
If not, most times as an adult, they'll want to "spread their wings".

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KIDS LOVE CHOCOLATE ALSO! - BUT, DO YOU LET YOUR CHILDREN LIVE ON A DIET OF CHOCOLATE?

The statement makes no sense bill. What has that got to do with anything?

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If not, most times as an adult, they'll want to "spread their wings".

The better ones surely will.


nsns

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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
Bill, I would bet that you consider The Wizard of Oz to be a bad movie too.

I'm sure he does. He also has problems with Disney - especially Mickey Mouse - Teletubbies, Ouija Boards, and thinks that "Santa" is how Satan spells his name in order to lure children into his grasp.

You have to remember, the Jesus Loves Me, But Hates Your Guts crowd is against anyone having any fun.

Imagination - other than their imaginary take on the Bible - is strictly forbidden and the direct path to hell. Such lack of imagination makes them bitter, hatemongers, disguising themselves as "Good Christians".

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Originally posted by CrustyMac:

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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
Bill, I would bet that you consider The Wizard of Oz to be a bad movie too.

I'm sure he does. He also has problems with Disney - especially Mickey Mouse - Teletubbies, Ouija Boards, and thinks that "Santa" is how Satan spells his name in order to lure children into his grasp.

You have to remember, the Jesus Loves Me, But Hates Your Guts crowd is against anyone having any fun.

Imagination - other than their imaginary take on the Bible - is strictly forbidden and the direct path to hell. Such lack of imagination makes them bitter, hatemongers, disguising themselves as "Good Christians".

WORD!

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Originally posted by yellowdogdemocrat:
I read everything before she does. I read Harry Potter (not my taste) it's not appropriate. Neither is Twilight or George Lopez or Shake it Up or many other things. If other parents want to allow these things OK but don't down me because I don't allow them.

Just curious.....how do you feel about the "Chronicles of Narnia", or for that matter "Horton Hears a Who"?

UW!

You believe in Whos??!!??


Infidel! Atheist!

(just going with the flow, here)


nsns

Whos, Whats, Wheres, Whys and especially Hows.....

But I can't lie my friend....there is no one more superstitious than us baseball nuts. What is a rally cap other than an invocation to the gods of the diamond. Do I even need to discuss the "underwear" thing

I certainly hope you do not.


nsns

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Originally posted by CrustyMac:

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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
Bill, I would bet that you consider The Wizard of Oz to be a bad movie too.

I'm sure he does. He also has problems with Disney - especially Mickey Mouse - Teletubbies, Ouija Boards, and thinks that "Santa" is how Satan spells his name in order to lure children into his grasp.

You have to remember, the Jesus Loves Me, But Hates Your Guts crowd is against anyone having any fun.

Imagination - other than their imaginary take on the Bible - is strictly forbidden and the direct path to hell. Such lack of imagination makes them bitter, hatemongers, disguising themselves as "Good Christians".

I agree.

How could you NOT like Harry Potter books? I think anyone who says that has never read them. They are incredibly imaginative and delightful. They were written as works of fiction, not a book by which to live your life.

God gave J.K. Rowling (a believer herself btw...sorry some of you didn't get that memo) the gift of writing. I think He is quite proud of her work.

I'm a Christian...so of course I believe in demons. I don't know much about witches. If they have special powers not from God, I'd assume the source is demonic and walk the other way, but that's just my opinion on it.

My dear Joy,

I read one of the H.Potter books. Good stuff, although written for the adolescent crowd. It holds up as such.

Have you seen the video "Jesus Camp"? The fundy lady preacher rails and rants about Harry Potter, as though JKR's books are biography, not fiction. The poor kids are denied that and every other pleasure. Have Kleenex handy if you watch it.

Some people.

nsns

There are no demons. Let's all come up to the 19th Century, OK?

nsns

I'm sure it's through reading them with my kids that I grew to love the books. They cover subjects kids deal with...well, she was a school teacher after all. The kids in the books, along with good times & developing close healthy friendships, experience hardship and suffer loss. In the end, through sacrifice and courage, good does triumph over evil. I thought her development of the game of Quidditch was brilliant.

No, haven't seen "Jesus Camp". I have enough crazy in my own family that I try to avoid seeking it out on purpose...haha.

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Originally posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:
There are no demons. Let's all come up to the 19th Century, OK?

nsns

Believe whatever you want. Since they can only affect me if I allow it, their existence means little to me.

I've never seen a demon...don't even know if that's possible. I've felt the presence of evil a couple of times, but since God inhabits our praises and evil cannot exist where God is, I just started singing praises and it left. Problem solved.

I believe in demons, ghosts, spirits, whatever.
I also believe that Harry Potter is a wonderful phenomenon- it has kids READING for pleasure.
They are brillian books.
I have always had trouble with the "anti-Harry" crowd. So all glory and power is to God, and not to "magic and witchcraft". Fair enough.
But this is FICTION, people, PURE FICTION.
If Harry Potter is evil, than I suppose the fairy Godmother that helped Cinderella out is evil too.
And the kiss that woke sleeping beauty? must be evil...
There is much to gain in imagination and fantasy- let kids believe in fantasy, read, and develop their imaginations. Keep them grounded at the same time...
It can be done..

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Originally posted by _Joy_:

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Originally posted by CrustyMac:

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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
Bill, I would bet that you consider The Wizard of Oz to be a bad movie too.

I'm sure he does. He also has problems with Disney - especially Mickey Mouse - Teletubbies, Ouija Boards, and thinks that "Santa" is how Satan spells his name in order to lure children into his grasp.

You have to remember, the Jesus Loves Me, But Hates Your Guts crowd is against anyone having any fun.

Imagination - other than their imaginary take on the Bible - is strictly forbidden and the direct path to hell. Such lack of imagination makes them bitter, hatemongers, disguising themselves as "Good Christians".

I agree.

How could you NOT like Harry Potter books? I think anyone who says that has never read them. They are incredibly imaginative and delightful. They were written as works of fiction, not a book by which to live your life.

God gave J.K. Rowling (a believer herself btw...sorry some of you didn't get that memo) the gift of writing. I think He is quite proud of her work.

Hmmmmm..... want to discuss The Golden Compass?