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We ate lunch at a steak house in town today. My knife and fork, folded in a napkin, still had food particles on them. Uck. The waitress brought me another set when I pointed it out. The food and service were fine but I still will think twice about eating there again.

 

Hubs said he never looks at his silverware. I ALWAYS check it. Do you?

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I tend to look at what I'm cutting and forking, so I guess I check indirectly.  The commercial machines will have used enough heat in the washing and drying process to sanitize any left over food particles.  So it wouldn't gross me out, and I would just ask for a clean set.

 

If that bothers you so much that you won't eat there again, have you considered the personal hygiene of the person who wrapped the silverware?  How do you even get out of the house without panicking?

that comes from dishwasher (who is paid min. wage) running to many forks, knives , spoons thru the machine at one time. then a server who isn't paying attention rolling the silverware. Good news with the turn over in most food establishments the probably won't be there next week and will be at another restaurant.

Originally Posted by CrustyMac:

I tend to look at what I'm cutting and forking, so I guess I check indirectly.  The commercial machines will have used enough heat in the washing and drying process to sanitize any left over food particles.  So it wouldn't gross me out, and I would just ask for a clean set.

 

If that bothers you so much that you won't eat there again, have you considered the personal hygiene of the person who wrapped the silverware?  How do you even get out of the house without panicking?

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I realize that food on silverware can and probably does happen every where. Although I don't consider myself a germ-a-phobe I do have a friend and a sibling who are and a little of that has rubbed off on me. Ignorance is bliss when it comes to eating out. I appreciate the info about the dishwashing machine  sanitizing the food particles, makes it not so bad but my reaction to seeing food on a supposedly clean eating utensil is still going to make me recoil.

 

Contendah, you jest but you partially described my husband. He eats with his fingers and then licks them off. No problem except when he does it in public. I am amazed he hasn't gotten sick but is a very healthy person. He also picks food off the ground and eats it.

 

 

 

Originally Posted by direstraits:

Agreed, spent time in the military when they still had military, instead of civilian KPs.  Still use military in the field and basic training, I believe.

 

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In the field, I ate MREs.  Usually cold.

 

I made Yahoo chocolate drink by mixing a pack of cocoa in a bottle of water.  Guys thought I had heat stroke dementia for asking for their packets in 110 degrees.

Originally Posted by peede coober:

A friend says one of her friends is a policeman, they were called to a Chinese restaurant at night for some problem and he reported that the kitchen had a lot of **** roaches. So there is probably a lot of stuff in restaurants we would be surprised about or grossed out about.

 

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When I was called to restaurants about cockroaches, they had 2 legs. 

Originally Posted by peede coober:
Originally Posted by CrustyMac:

I tend to look at what I'm cutting and forking, so I guess I check indirectly.  The commercial machines will have used enough heat in the washing and drying process to sanitize any left over food particles.  So it wouldn't gross me out, and I would just ask for a clean set.

 

If that bothers you so much that you won't eat there again, have you considered the personal hygiene of the person who wrapped the silverware?  How do you even get out of the house without panicking?

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I realize that food on silverware can and probably does happen every where. Although I don't consider myself a germ-a-phobe I do have a friend and a sibling who are and a little of that has rubbed off on me. Ignorance is bliss when it comes to eating out. I appreciate the info about the dishwashing machine  sanitizing the food particles, makes it not so bad but my reaction to seeing food on a supposedly clean eating utensil is still going to make me recoil.

 

Contendah, you jest but you partially described my husband. He eats with his fingers and then licks them off. No problem except when he does it in public. I am amazed he hasn't gotten sick but is a very healthy person. He also picks food off the ground and eats it.

 

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Certain meats are finger food ... porkchops for one among many.  Chicken soup isn't.

 

My daddy would pour out his coffee into the saucer to cool it before "slurping" it.  When he did that in a restaurant in Italy, the waiter thought it was because Daddy didn't like the coffee.  He snatched the cup/saucer up and brought him another.  Daddy immediately did it again and held his "stop" sign up to the waiter.

 

PC, I guess eating off the ground saves on dishwashing?  Just kidding, of course.  Does your husband abide by the 10 second rule ... or?

Originally Posted by peede coober:

Jack, you don't think the napkins are cleaned enough in the wash? How do you eat steak or anything that has to be cut with a plastic knife? If I may ask, how often do you go out to eat?

My fault, I just forgot to say where, Cracker Barrel. But that's not the case

at most places we eat. I'm not likely to go to a applebees or friday's 

since the rubbing alcohol caper.

Originally Posted by peede coober:

A friend says one of her friends is a policeman, they were called to a Chinese restaurant at night for some problem and he reported that the kitchen had a lot of **** roaches. So there is probably a lot of stuff in restaurants we would be surprised about or grossed out about.

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I'm pretty sure those roaches were just the ingredients running around.    If you want a good indication of the cleanliness of a kitchen, check the bathrooms. 

Originally Posted by Jack Flash:
Originally Posted by peede coober:

Jack, you don't think the napkins are cleaned enough in the wash? How do you eat steak or anything that has to be cut with a plastic knife? If I may ask, how often do you go out to eat?

My fault, I just forgot to say where, Cracker Barrel. But that's not the case

at most places we eat. I'm not likely to go to a applebees or friday's 

since the rubbing alcohol caper.

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Do tell. You have my curiosity aroused. Lets hear about the caper.

I like Cracker Barrel.

 

crusty, I don't know if you ever went to La Fonda's when it existed but that was probably the most disgusting ladies bathroom in the Shoals.

 

Originally Posted by peede coober:
Originally Posted by Jack Flash:
Originally Posted by peede coober:

Jack, you don't think the napkins are cleaned enough in the wash? How do you eat steak or anything that has to be cut with a plastic knife? If I may ask, how often do you go out to eat?

My fault, I just forgot to say where, Cracker Barrel. But that's not the case

at most places we eat. I'm not likely to go to a applebees or friday's 

since the rubbing alcohol caper.

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Do tell. You have my curiosity aroused. Lets hear about the caper.

I like Cracker Barrel.

 

crusty, I don't know if you ever went to La Fonda's when it existed but that was probably the most disgusting ladies bathroom in the Shoals.

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I went to La Fonda's twice.  Regretted both trips.

 

Originally Posted by Contendah:

SOLUTION:  Buy a set of three steel utensils--knife, fork, and spoon--like those sold in the camping sections of sporting goods stores, usually in their own sturdy plastic pouch.  When you eat out, ignore the silverware on the table and eat with your own stuff.

 

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I agree, though individual place camp setting cost more than if you buy the setting in bulk at the Dollar Store anywhere from 6 place on up.  I use a $Store 24 place setting at cookouts instead of plastic stuff.  At the end of the day, I put it all in the dishwasher and at the beginning of a new day, should a guest find the silverware not up to par, I direct them to the nearest faucet with bottle of Dawn,

 

At the steakhouse, carry your utensil in slide closer bag and dirty ones out the same way.

Originally Posted by peede coober:

No 10 second rule. He just hates to waste food and goes by the "a little dirt won't hurt you" rule. At a local Mardi Gras party someone dropped the live oyster they were popping the shell on and husband ate it even though it was a little muddy. He doesn't mind, isn't picky and is never sick.

 

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Well considering the cost of a single-select oyster these days, I would have picked it up too. 

 

But seriously, oysters are filter feeders and eating them live/raw can lead to dire consequences for just proving you can eat snot.  This ol Tidewater pluffmudder can attest.

Last edited by budsfarm
Originally Posted by Contendah:

SOLUTION:  Buy a set of three steel utensils--knife, fork, and spoon--like those sold in the camping sections of sporting goods stores, usually in their own sturdy plastic pouch.  When you eat out, ignore the silverware on the table and eat with your own stuff.

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LOL! Carry your own utensils and STILL eat at a place you felt you needed to use them? Do you carry your own plates, glasses, food and the pots and pans for cooking it too?

Last edited by Bestworking
Originally Posted by peede coober:

No 10 second rule. He just hates to waste food and goes by the "a little dirt won't hurt you" rule. At a local Mardi Gras party someone dropped the live oyster they were popping the shell on and husband ate it even though it was a little muddy. He doesn't mind, isn't picky and is never sick.

Peede, if it was a raw Gulf oyster, then the little bit of dirt or mud it had on it is certainly no cause for alarm, when compared to the contents of its non-selective digestive system. And everyone knows that "the ten second rule" is out of date, the Board of Health has instituted the new "five second rule" now, because of the prevalence of more dangerous organisms in our environment.  Any time longer than 5 seconds on the ground is too much....

 

Originally Posted by teyates:
Originally Posted by peede coober:

No 10 second rule. He just hates to waste food and goes by the "a little dirt won't hurt you" rule. At a local Mardi Gras party someone dropped the live oyster they were popping the shell on and husband ate it even though it was a little muddy. He doesn't mind, isn't picky and is never sick.

Peede, if it was a raw Gulf oyster, then the little bit of dirt or mud it had on it is certainly no cause for alarm, when compared to the contents of its non-selective digestive system. And everyone knows that "the ten second rule" is out of date, the Board of Health has instituted the new "five second rule" now, because of the prevalence of more dangerous organisms in our environment.  Any time longer than 5 seconds on the ground is too much....

 

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"non-selective" indeed!

 

Good advice, Doc.

 

I was j/k about the 10 second rule and am surprised there ever was one except for road kill.

 

I was thinking more like 3 depending on what the food landed on.  Thanks for the clarification.

 

Oh, live = raw but raw doesn't = live.

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Bud,

you are right.  It does depend on the surface. I forgot the innovative work by the Ivy League schools in the late 70's.  Carpets get a 5 second rule, unless its shag carpeting, then it can go to about 7 seconds.  Linoleum and hardwoods have a steady 3 second rule. Research has proven it, and four out of five naturopaths with IQs over 132 were paid to endorse it.  So it must be true....

 

Originally Posted by teyates:

Bud,

you are right.  It does depend on the surface. I forgot the innovative work by the Ivy League schools in the late 70's.  Carpets get a 5 second rule, unless its shag carpeting, then it can go to about 7 seconds.  Linoleum and hardwoods have a steady 3 second rule. Research has proven it, and four out of five naturopaths with IQs over 132 were paid to endorse it.  So it must be true....

 

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Thanks Doc.  Sorry about that late "=" edit.  That was for the benefit of the 132s among us.

Originally Posted by direstraits:

The first man to eat an oyster was either very brave or very hungry.  However, I've eaten the tasty critters raw and cooked for most of my 68 years and never suffered for it,

 

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So said I and then my deceased buddy.  But really he was harvesting in a area where he shouldn't have.  I was more than lucky on many occasions.  The one who survived was shucking them from a bushel that came from a reputable fresh fish market.

 

I've heard that the "bravest" man was the first one in history who said "I'm gonna eat the next thing that comes outta that chicken's butt."  

Last edited by budsfarm
Originally Posted by Contendah:

SOLUTION:  Buy a set of three steel utensils--knife, fork, and spoon--like those sold in the camping sections of sporting goods stores, usually in their own sturdy plastic pouch.  When you eat out, ignore the silverware on the table and eat with your own stuff.

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If you are going to do that, you might as well bring your own plates and glasses as well.  Why stop there?  Supply the cookware, the ingredients, and just cook the meal yourself.  Oh, wait.....

 

-edit- well crap, this would have been funnier if Best hadn't already posted.

Last edited by CrustyMac
Originally Posted by CrustyMac:
Originally Posted by Contendah:

SOLUTION:  Buy a set of three steel utensils--knife, fork, and spoon--like those sold in the camping sections of sporting goods stores, usually in their own sturdy plastic pouch.  When you eat out, ignore the silverware on the table and eat with your own stuff.

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If you are going to do that, you might as well bring your own plates and glasses as well.  Why stop there?  Supply the cookware, the ingredients, and just cook the meal yourself.  Oh, wait.....

 

-edit- well crap, this would have been funnier if Best hadn't already posted.

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Funny--I thought this string was about SILVERWARE.

Originally Posted by teyates:
Originally Posted by peede coober:

No 10 second rule. He just hates to waste food and goes by the "a little dirt won't hurt you" rule. At a local Mardi Gras party someone dropped the live oyster they were popping the shell on and husband ate it even though it was a little muddy. He doesn't mind, isn't picky and is never sick.

Peede, if it was a raw Gulf oyster, then the little bit of dirt or mud it had on it is certainly no cause for alarm, when compared to the contents of its non-selective digestive system. And everyone knows that "the ten second rule" is out of date, the Board of Health has instituted the new "five second rule" now, because of the prevalence of more dangerous organisms in our environment.  Any time longer than 5 seconds on the ground is too much....

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Really?! I didn't know that was really true.  I don't think anything will keep him from eating stuff that has fallen. He would probably say it hasn't hurt him yet. The man has a cast iron stomach and constitution. Thanks for the info.

 

Contendah, I guess the point is that if I am worried about the silverware I should also worry about everything else used to prepare and eat the meal.

 

Bud, your bravest man comment made me bust out laughing. Geez, now I have to think about that the next time I eat an egg.

 

 

Raw oysters and clams are alive when you eat them  There is a toxin that develops very quickly when certain shell fish die.  Therefore, if not cooked, they must be eaten live.  Lobsters and mussels are cooked alive to keep the toxin from forming.  Never force open a cooked or streamed mussel as it was already dead when cooked and the poison may be present -- making one very sick.  Mussels,as a last effort, open up to release the heat. 

Originally Posted by peede coober:
Originally Posted by teyates:
Originally Posted by peede coober:

No 10 second rule. He just hates to waste food and goes by the "a little dirt won't hurt you" rule. At a local Mardi Gras party someone dropped the live oyster they were popping the shell on and husband ate it even though it was a little muddy. He doesn't mind, isn't picky and is never sick.

Peede, if it was a raw Gulf oyster, then the little bit of dirt or mud it had on it is certainly no cause for alarm, when compared to the contents of its non-selective digestive system. And everyone knows that "the ten second rule" is out of date, the Board of Health has instituted the new "five second rule" now, because of the prevalence of more dangerous organisms in our environment.  Any time longer than 5 seconds on the ground is too much....

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Really?! I didn't know that was really true.  I don't think anything will keep him from eating stuff that has fallen. He would probably say it hasn't hurt him yet. The man has a cast iron stomach and constitution. Thanks for the info.

 

Contendah, I guess the point is that if I am worried about the silverware I should also worry about everything else used to prepare and eat the meal.

 

Bud, your bravest man comment made me bust out laughing. Geez, now I have to think about that the next time I eat an egg.

 

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One can just hear the cave man's wife -- you ate that!  You do know where it came from.

 

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