I get most of my "Bad Cop" news from the web site.
I, too, am curious--just what does a convict look like? Don Siegelman? Tommy Arthur? Martha Stewart?
quote:Originally posted by FirenzeVeritas:
I get most of my "Bad Cop" news from the web site.
I, too, am curious--just what does a convict look like? Don Siegelman? Tommy Arthur? Martha Stewart?
I think they have on stripes, some are pink and white, some are orange and white, some are black and white, and some are all orange. most of the time when you see them they will have on silver braclets around their wrists and the ankles, some may even sit beside you in church, just the ankle braclet will be hidden. and if that dont help any, then take a tour of your local state prison.
I dated a guy that was a former police officer. When he was a police officer he carried a gun and a badge and all the attitude that went with it. I'm sorry, with some of the things he dealt with he was entitled to that attitude. He was a very good man inside and out.
He later became a corrections officer. He worked inside the jail and did NOT carry a gun. He carried pepper spray. He broke up fights, cleaned up vomit, walked the hall and made sure everyone inside the jail was safe. He was not a "cop". He USED TO BE cop, but he was an officer.
Big difference in his attitude and his jobs. I still worried whether he would come home at night because both jobs are dangerous and unpredictable. Jailers/CO's also don't get the benefits of a police officer -- there are no death benefits etc if I'm not mistaken, but that may have changed.
He later became a corrections officer. He worked inside the jail and did NOT carry a gun. He carried pepper spray. He broke up fights, cleaned up vomit, walked the hall and made sure everyone inside the jail was safe. He was not a "cop". He USED TO BE cop, but he was an officer.
Big difference in his attitude and his jobs. I still worried whether he would come home at night because both jobs are dangerous and unpredictable. Jailers/CO's also don't get the benefits of a police officer -- there are no death benefits etc if I'm not mistaken, but that may have changed.
no i have never been in jail or prison. and the comment about bad cops in russellville is exactly right. all cops are scum. ALL OF THEM!!!!
yep, you may not be an actual convict in stripes, but you are definitely one that seems to have had bad run ins with officers...of all those officers you've encountered, remember the only common denominator in the equation was you...so you might start looking there for the root of your issues with cops...
Yes i have had a couple bad run ins with the law. Ill admit it. But I was just trying to do the right thing and it backfired on me so too hell with the SOB POS Scumbags
yep, just what I thought...common denominator...all makes sense now... 
quote:Originally posted by ttodd85:
Yes i have had a couple bad run ins with the law. Ill admit it. But I was just trying to do the right thing and it backfired on me so too hell with the SOB POS Scumbags
Do tell, what were you trying to do and how did it backfire?
Nope not at all. There was people shooting at my brothers house and I saw it and done the right thing by not going up to them because they had a gun. I done the right thing by calling the law. Then 911 goes and tell me and i quote "thats not against the law sir". So i went and took care of it. And guess what I dang near went to jail for trying to protect my brothers property. NOW THAT IS BS. A BIG PILE OF IT
quote:Originally posted by longarmofthalaw:quote:Originally posted by FirenzeVeritas:
I get most of my "Bad Cop" news from the web site.
I, too, am curious--just what does a convict look like? Don Siegelman? Tommy Arthur? Martha Stewart?
I think they have on stripes, some are pink and white, some are orange and white, some are black and white, and some are all orange. most of the time when you see them they will have on silver braclets around their wrists and the ankles, some may even sit beside you in church, just the ankle braclet will be hidden. and if that dont help any, then take a tour of your local state prison.
This story shouldn't be funny, but somehow it is. I once heard of a woman who was released from prison on some kind of program. She was an extremely observant Catholic and intent upon attending mass, even while wearing her ankle monitor. She bought some longish pants and sat in the back of the auditorium.
As luck would have it, an extremely attractive man sat down beside her and noticed the monitor despite the woman's best efforts to conceal it. He inquired as to what it was, and the woman replied, "Oh, that. I'm having some cardiac tests done and that's a heart monitor."
Humor aside, I think we should all remember that those who are incarcerated are as varied as those of us who aren't. They won't always be in prison; they should be treated with respect (if they have earned it).
quote:Originally posted by ttodd85:
Nope not at all. There was people shooting at my brothers house and I saw it and done the right thing by not going up to them because they had a gun. I done the right thing by calling the law. Then 911 goes and tell me and i quote "thats not against the law sir". So i went and took care of it. And guess what I dang near went to jail for trying to protect my brothers property. NOW THAT IS BS. A BIG PILE OF IT
OK, let me get this right -- you reported someone shooting at your brother's property to 911 and because the 911 operator said that was not illegal you decided to take the law into your own hands...that was your first mistake -- the 911 operator doesn't decide what is legal or not -- the police do...
See...I had a whole post of "if you were where you were supposed to be doing what you were supposed to be doing you wouldn't have to worry about backfire" and it went away...shooting at your brother and you defended yourself -- I could see the point in that...but going to "take care of business" because someone shot at your brother's house...that isn't a defendable action that is retaliation and that should have backfired on you..."stupid is as stupid does" rings a bell...if you knew who it was the cops should have been able to go and take care of business for you...
quote:Nope not at all. There was people shooting at my brothers house and I saw it and done the right thing by not going up to them because they had a gun. I done the right thing by calling the law. Then 911 goes and tell me and i quote "thats not against the law sir". So i went and took care of it. And guess what I dang near went to jail for trying to protect my brothers property. NOW THAT IS BS. A BIG PILE OF IT
A few questions for you, if you don't mind answering them.
Did the "law" show up after you called 911? What were you doing to protect your brother's property? What were you doing when the "law" showed up? Did you "dang near" go to jail that day or was it later? Why do you hate ALL police officers, based off of this one incident?
quote:Originally posted by FirenzeVeritas:
Humor aside, I think we should all remember that those who are incarcerated are as varied as those of us who aren't. They won't always be in prison; they should be treated with respect (if they have earned it).
Key phrase -- if they have earned it...there are some I've encountered over the years that have done just that, but the majority these days turn out to be thugs who don't take responsibility for their own actions, blame others for their lot in life and think the world owes them something for nothing...there are a select few though that show true character when they pull themselves out of the mire and become upstanding citizens...
first of all they werent shooting at us they were shooting at his house on PRIVATE PROPERTY and i was minding my own business until they were where they werent supposed too be. Yes it is a reportable offense. I left to get away from the guns but was close enough to still watch them. So after 911 told me this i said F this and went and took care of it there was no violence involved i just told the m they were on private property and to leave and they did because the cops sure didnt have the balls to
Yes after 4 hours they finally showed up.
Yes after 4 hours they finally showed up.
Sounds like you didn't give the cops a chance to do their job, but that's just what I'm inferring from what you are posting. You said you almost went to jail for your actions -- what did you do (if there was no violence involved) to almost get yourself in trouble with the law? I understand Private Property, but it wasn't like they were killing anyone -- you could have turned their names, tag numbers etc over to the police and let the police handle their job and have gotten more accomplished in this situation. Besides, you obviously had some sort of protection to go after someone shooting a firearm yourself -- I doubt you were dumb enough to go empty handed...so I'm not so sure you were too innocent in this situation...so tell us the rest of the story...
quote:and no CORRECTION OFFICER CARRIES A GUN INSIDE A PRISON, so since that is where their job duties take place and they are not armed then, they dont carry guns
Oh...now you want to change it ti INSIDE a prison?
Thats quite a leap from...
"I believe you are wrong. please check your facts and prove them. corrections officers do not carry guns."
I agree that COs do not NORMALLY enter the prison with guns. They do however go armed when transporting and other things.
Police officers in most depts are not allowed in the lockup area with guns either. The same concept as with a prison.
They had 4 hours to do there **** job and 911 told me it wasnt against the law i didnt think anybody was coming to help me out so yes i took the law into my own hands i had no other choice and no i didnt have any weapons of any kind just my truck and thats it
yes he was hurting something he was hurting my brothers PRIVATE PROPERTY that he had no business being on in the first place
At what point were you "dang near" taken to jail, and for what?
Did you really just drive up to several armed subjects and politely tell them that what they were doing was wrong? If they left prior to the "law" getting there then how did you "dang near" go to jail?
Did you really just drive up to several armed subjects and politely tell them that what they were doing was wrong? If they left prior to the "law" getting there then how did you "dang near" go to jail?
I was almost taken to jail for doing the cops gd job for them.
quote:Originally posted by ttodd85:
I was almost taken to jail for doing the cops gd job for them.
I have to call BS!
If they had a gun and were actively shooting, there is no way you would've approached them without being armed with a weapon of some sort. BTW what charge was that?
think what u want but thats what i did i took a chance because the cops wasnt going too do there **** job so i did it for them and its called trespassing Shooting a gun into a house minor in possession of a weapon shall i go on?
I meant, what were the cops going to charge you with? What type of guns were they?
me too, huck...I think he just wants an excuse to hate cops other than the fact that he is probably a trouble maker. I don't know many cops that actually enjoy taking people to jail unless they have been pushed to their limits. Besides, property can be replaced and repaired -- human life cannot -- so anyone firing a weapon at PROPERTY is committing a crime, but not one that is life threatening or necessary for me to put myself in their path.
If it took the cops 4 hours to show up, obviously there were other true crimes going on that needed their attention, but I seriously doubt it took them that long.
There is definitely plent of holes in this story and I doubt you are man enough to fill them in for us. So I will take you at your word as to you don't like cops and chalk it up to you being the one with issues and not the cops.
jetboy -- huck was simply clarifying his statements since you seem to like to pick them apart and not read their intended message...you read into them what you wish just to pick a fight...but no, officer in a prison/jail don't wear their guns on their sides inside the facility. They might on transports from a prison, but the local jailers do not (to my knowledge) carry a weapon on their person at any time inside or outside a jail. If they are transporting a prisoner to a hospital they have him in cuffs from the moment he exits the jail to the moment he returns to the jail ... they will even handcuff them to beds or other objects if necessary. The jailers would not fire a weapon in a hospital and put more people at risk -- so I don't believe they even wear them at all. However, that would be too much common sense I guess. If I'm wrong on that, one of the real cops on here can correct me or clarify, but I believe I am correct that they don't don a weapon even on most transports -- that's what they use the deputies for...
Also, I worked at a clinic and the sheriff's deputies transported most of the prisoners -- now they are true "cops" and do carry weapons, but they also were assigned a patrol car -- they were not "jailers" or "corrections officers".
If it took the cops 4 hours to show up, obviously there were other true crimes going on that needed their attention, but I seriously doubt it took them that long.
There is definitely plent of holes in this story and I doubt you are man enough to fill them in for us. So I will take you at your word as to you don't like cops and chalk it up to you being the one with issues and not the cops.
jetboy -- huck was simply clarifying his statements since you seem to like to pick them apart and not read their intended message...you read into them what you wish just to pick a fight...but no, officer in a prison/jail don't wear their guns on their sides inside the facility. They might on transports from a prison, but the local jailers do not (to my knowledge) carry a weapon on their person at any time inside or outside a jail. If they are transporting a prisoner to a hospital they have him in cuffs from the moment he exits the jail to the moment he returns to the jail ... they will even handcuff them to beds or other objects if necessary. The jailers would not fire a weapon in a hospital and put more people at risk -- so I don't believe they even wear them at all. However, that would be too much common sense I guess. If I'm wrong on that, one of the real cops on here can correct me or clarify, but I believe I am correct that they don't don a weapon even on most transports -- that's what they use the deputies for...
Also, I worked at a clinic and the sheriff's deputies transported most of the prisoners -- now they are true "cops" and do carry weapons, but they also were assigned a patrol car -- they were not "jailers" or "corrections officers".
Please tell me how the cops are the problem in this situation. You took the law into your own hands and never gave the cops the chance to do their job.
Also, do you really need to curse in every post you make? I'm sure there are more words in the English language besides those to help you express your anger and hatred for cops.
Also, do you really need to curse in every post you make? I'm sure there are more words in the English language besides those to help you express your anger and hatred for cops.
I believe that it was your "sunny disposition" that probably got you into trouble, and more than likely still does..Since, every run-in with the police is bad for you.
i really dont care what u think phantom. and u got to remember this is franklin county . every single one of them are garbage and this one apparently did the captain has been there over 20 years so he dont have to do a gd thing he dont want too. after waiting 4 f hours u gd right i took the law into my own hands
and those that say its not a crime ill tell u what give me your addresses and let me get my 12 gauge and ill go shoot into your houses and then we will see if its a crime!!!
and those that say its not a crime ill tell u what give me your addresses and let me get my 12 gauge and ill go shoot into your houses and then we will see if its a crime!!!
and huckleberry i started out nice. i was as polite as i possible could be considering the situation. then they told me it wasnt a crime thats when i got right with them meaning 911
Never said it wasn't a crime, but it wasn't a life or death situation that would warrant putting your life at risk...you should've waited for the cops...that's all...I understandd your emotions were running high, but no house is worth a life...not even yours...
ttodd, you have a total of 27 posts. With the way you are carrying on with the language and hatefulness, you can expect to be expelled from this forum when the moderator meets you! Refrain from your deliberate skirting around the sensors and you may get to stay around for a while.
Also, be nice!
Also, be nice!
dixiechik im so sorry u feel that way about me. Im a straight shooter and call them like i see them. oh i got the meaning of the little phrase "not even yours" but i dont care what u think of me
ttodd85:
New Kid on the Block
Posted 12 August 2008 11:17 AM Hide Post
first of all they werent shooting at us they were shooting at his house on PRIVATE PROPERTY and i was minding my own business until they were where they werent supposed too be. Yes it is a reportable offense. I left to get away from the guns but was close enough to still watch them. So after 911 told me this i said F this and went and took care of it there was no violence involved i just told the m they were on private property and to leave and they did because the cops sure didnt have the balls to
Yes after 4 hours they finally showed up.
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Then you stated:
ttodd85
New Kid on the Block
Posted 12 August 2008 02:20 PM Hide Post
I did wait on the cops for over an hour finally i said f it and done it myself
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Now todd, which is it? It the problem with the cops in your head, maybe something you dreamed up????????????
First you say four hours, then you say one hour, which is it?????????????????????
Do you even know yourself?
It always seems that when people have a problem with cops they exaggerate, just like you did!!!!!!!!!!
Please, and all the trash talking is not necessary. They will kick you off of here for it.
New Kid on the Block
Posted 12 August 2008 11:17 AM Hide Post
first of all they werent shooting at us they were shooting at his house on PRIVATE PROPERTY and i was minding my own business until they were where they werent supposed too be. Yes it is a reportable offense. I left to get away from the guns but was close enough to still watch them. So after 911 told me this i said F this and went and took care of it there was no violence involved i just told the m they were on private property and to leave and they did because the cops sure didnt have the balls to
Yes after 4 hours they finally showed up.
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Then you stated:
ttodd85
New Kid on the Block
Posted 12 August 2008 02:20 PM Hide Post
I did wait on the cops for over an hour finally i said f it and done it myself
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Now todd, which is it? It the problem with the cops in your head, maybe something you dreamed up????????????
First you say four hours, then you say one hour, which is it?????????????????????
Do you even know yourself?
It always seems that when people have a problem with cops they exaggerate, just like you did!!!!!!!!!!
Please, and all the trash talking is not necessary. They will kick you off of here for it.
fhantom if u knew how too read you would know how long it took. Like i said i waited for them for a little over an hour then i said f it and done it myself it took the cops 4 hours to show up. try reading next time you will learn a lot more
quote:Originally posted by ttodd85:
think what u want but thats what i did i took a chance because the cops wasnt going too do there **** job so i did it for them and its called trespassing Shooting a gun into a house minor in possession of a weapon shall i go on?
I believe its called discharging a firearm into a occupied or unoccupied dwelling, criminal trespass, and a minor in possession of a firearm. If you used some punctuation it might be easier for others to comprehend your foul rhetoric. I've taken the time to read each of your pathetic posts, and I have came to the conclusion that your nothing more than a low life thug. Go rant somewhere else because I don't care what you think of police officers or your moma for that matter.
quote:Originally posted by ttodd85:
i really dont care what u think phantom. and u got to remember this is franklin county . every single one of them are garbage and this one apparently did the captain has been there over 20 years so he dont have to do a gd thing he dont want too. after waiting 4 f hours u gd right i took the law into my own hands
and those that say its not a crime ill tell u what give me your addresses and let me get my 12 gauge and ill go shoot into your houses and then we will see if its a crime!!!
So now you are threatening someone?
Let's see how much longer you last on these forums...
I agree with DixieChik that dispatchers don't know all the laws, but did you tell them exactly what was going on? There are TOO many holes in your story. I would like to know the exact times and dates of this "incident" just to see if you are being honest. You know it would be public record, right? Did Franklin County or Russellville PD handle the situation? Since You say you approached these folks that were "shooting into your brothers house", why would you do so unarmed? NOBODY in there right mind would do that...
nope im not a thug just an average guy that tries to do the right thing. no thank you i have just as much right to be here as anyone else so i think ill stay for a while thank you for the suggestion though. also if u dont care what i think about cops then why do you keep posting after i post? are u like 8 years old or something because the momma jokes were in grammar school
i never threatened anyone. i dont have exact times and dates but i know franklin county and phil campbell finally came and Capt. swindle is the one that finally arrived
quote:Originally posted by ttodd85:
nope im not a thug just an average guy that tries to do the right thing. no thank you i have just as much right to be here as anyone else so i think ill stay for a while thank you for the suggestion though. also if u dont care what i think about cops then why do you keep posting after i post? are u like 8 years old or something because the momma jokes were in grammar school
Your posts are against forum rules, so you don't have every right to be here. I haven't replied a comment but twice with this being the third, so get your facts straight. I didn't tell a your moma joke, I merely stated that I could care less about your opinion. Speaking of grammer, do you know any? If Arizona didn't won't you, what made you think Alabama would? Good day, thug!
quote:Originally posted by ttodd85:
i really dont care what u think phantom. and u got to remember this is franklin county . every single one of them are garbage and this one apparently did the captain has been there over 20 years so he dont have to do a gd thing he dont want too. after waiting 4 f hours u gd right i took the law into my own hands
and those that say its not a crime ill tell u what give me your addresses and let me get my 12 gauge and ill go shoot into your houses and then we will see if its a crime!!!
Not a threat? Ok....
Ok, I'd like to see if your story is true, if so, I see where you would be mad that it took them 4 hours to get there. I just do not think it's the "whole" story.
quote:Speaking of grammer, do you know any?
Now thats funny right there...I don't care who you are