Does illegal Sunday Alcohol Sales stop drinking?

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Originally posted by brakefield20032003:
Where are all the people who are against Sunday sales? They obviously turned out for the election a while back.

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Originally posted by �bermensch:
Some people raise their hands when they feel the "spirit". It spans churches and denominations and doesn't really reflect in any way on their Sunday alcohol sales leaning.

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Generally speaking, as a majority, who do you think voted against Sunday alcohol sales?? And will do so again??

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Now, at Auburn the fraternity brothers would wear sportcoat, slacks, and tie and the sorority sisters would dress up

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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit: I was just wondering what everyone things about drinking on Sunday. Does simply NOT selling stop the drinking?

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Posted 29 December 2006 02:52 PM Hide Post
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Now, at Auburn the fraternity brothers would wear sportcoat, slacks, and tie and the sorority sisters would dress up

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Posted 29 December 2006 02:52 PM Hide Post
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Now, at Auburn the fraternity brothers would wear sportcoat, slacks, and tie and the sorority sisters would dress up


Who watches the cows?

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Originally posted by �bermensch:

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Now, at Auburn the fraternity brothers would wear sportcoat, slacks, and tie and the sorority sisters would dress up

Who watches the cows?

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Originally posted by Brentenman:
...then again, most Blue Laws are foolish and outdated anyways.

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Originally posted by REDNEVEDNAV:
You are absolutely correct; that was supposed to be a "fun attempt to challenge a world record." Instead it was nearly fully hijacked by "those people" (nice of you to categorize 'them') and turned into a gospel tent revival. It was organized as an attempt to break an existing world's record....not as a charismatic religious gathering. I was there and almost left because I showed up to sing Christmas carols and support a young boy's dream....not to jump up and down and speak in tongues.

I merely answered a question (IMHO) posted by someone in this thread....I am not kicking anybody.....This picture was posted in jest....as an over-generalization. However, since you have pointedly categorized "those people," I guess you maybe misunderstood my point (or obvious vain attempt to make one). You ask "how do stick them in a conversation about Sunday alcohol sales....." Seriously? How can I not? The charismatic religious individual (i.e., similar to the ones depicted in that photo) that lives in this area is the individual that will vote against Sunday alcohol sales based on the fact that it is on a Sunday. And, generally speaking, an individual that finds it necessary to show his/her religious conviction in a physical manner (refer to picture), is....again, generally speaking....a charismatically religious person....and one that will find it acceptable to show up to a simple event and carry-on in such a manner (i.e., the world record attempt, UNA graduation, etc). I am not attacking anyone personally or any religious preference, I am simply making an observation based on general facts.

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Originally posted by smurph:
you are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT kindred! The big argument over Sunday sales always been a thorn in my side. Most folks would just buy (usually more than needed) on Saturday night.And then end up drinking a one or 2 from Sundays stash ,,along with what they already drank
And yes I am in line to get my lottery tickets over that state line sometimes. let my money help Tn also,LOL!

Good luck with the surgery,take care and be sure you get back online and let us know you are okay.

Thanks smurph... not really doing all that great, but least I am up today, didnt get up at all yesterday afternoon. Was much more involved that Dr. said. ANYWAY......

How right you are!!! Tennessee, Mississippi, Georgia, and Florida ALL have some sort of Lottery or Casino's, and people in ALABAMA do go there. But... shhhhhhhh, dont tell the preachers!!! ... the one and only time I ever went to Tunica, I saw a HUGE dignitary Preacher and his wife down there... hypocracy at its best. Bet he was one of those preachers who told his congregation NOT to vote for gambling/lottery... but of course, Tunica just MAY have "asked" him to do that, LOL!

Also, Having ANY area that will not bend the rules for New Years Eve on Sunday night, well, no wonder we dont have big industry beating down our doors, or all the good jobs in the Nation... We are so pre-historic in some area's that it is ridiculous.

POLITICIANS, YOU LISTENING????????

Won't do any good this year though, but maybe next time New Years Eve rolls around on Sunday, we will be up to par on it!!!

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Originally posted by brakefield20032003:
While I don't really play the lottery, many times I buy extra alcohol on Saturday so that I can have a beer while watching football on Sunday. Sometimes my wife and I will even drive to Hardin County Tennessee just across Pickwick Lake if we didn't get any extra on Saturday. It is about 45 minutes away and is a very nice drive.

As far as whether or not alcohol should be sold on Sunday, I would have to say that without doubt it should. For several years I lived in Birmingham. There it is sold after 12:00 noon on Sunday. I don't really see what the big deal is and I don't think there is any reason not to sell alcohol on Sunday. To me, it makes more sense to not sell it at all rather than have one day a week be "dry."

You may have seen the article in the TD this morning about New Year's Eve falling on Sunday this year. That is really going to hurt Colbert County businesses.

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Originally posted by themax:
I agree K.S. if something can be bought on one day then why not 7 days. Same for the lottery, no telling how much Alabama loses in tax money to Tn. and ajoining states. It's a shame we can't keep those those tax dollars here.

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Originally posted by REDNEVEDNAV:

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Originally posted by �bermensch:
Some people raise their hands when they feel the "spirit". It spans churches and denominations and doesn't really reflect in any way on their Sunday alcohol sales leaning.

Generally speaking, as a majority, who do you think voted against Sunday alcohol sales?? And will do so again?? The Hispanics? The college kids? The young professionals? Business owners? Or people that like to run around at public events with their hands in the air pretending to be mumbling in "tongues"?

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Originally posted by Brentenman:
Looking at the picture, I see someone wearing a suit and tie. Who in the world would wear a suit and tie to a football game? Now, at Auburn the fraternity brothers would wear sportcoat, slacks, and tie and the sorority sisters would dress up (YES...most were VERY hot BTW-and not talking temperatures here). I can understand that. But this dude seems to be middle-aged and bald. Seems REDNEVEDNAV has a point here. Why can't anyone have any type of fun w/o dumping their beliefs onto everyone, ruining the atmosphere?

But anyways.....Sunday alcohol sales bans do nothing. Those who drink should just stock up on Saturday. I do not drink, and therefore could care less. The local laws do not stop drinking. They make no sense, and give the South and the Shoowwllss a bad name. All those from outside the South who visit the South and want something to drink but can't think it a foolish law...then again, most Blue Laws are foolish and outdated anyways.

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Originally posted by themax:
The mention of someone ouside the area brought up a funny memory. Many years ago I was working part time at local business and a fellow from I think Ohio was hired to update the data processing dept.[yea it was a long time ago] Anyway, the guy told me that when he was told the area was dry he thought we didn't get much rain. Culture shock!!

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Originally posted by _Joy_:
REDNEVEDNAV....I too was at the event & I have no idea what you are talking about. In fact, they must have taken a picture of the only group there with their hands raised because the rest of the people in the stands were sitting and talking and enjoying the music while we waited. The musicians were there voluntarily to entertain people while we were waiting for the clock to start. Everyone had a blast (well apparently everyone but you...no offense intended!).

The event was on Sunday. This preacher came from church & after the event, was headed back to church, thus the suit.

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Originally posted by coverupgirl:
The Picture was taken at the GWR and which was held on a Sunday.

That is what I thought Coverupgirl, I just wanted to be sure.

Thank you for clarifying that for people who thought it was a football game.

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Originally posted by Reflecting One of the voices i:
You cant legislate morality.....If people want a beer on Monday or Sunday They should have that right......
However if you're drinking and driving, you need to go to jail.
I think Lauderdale County restaurants probably lobby against Colbert County restaurant owners ability to sell...I know Marriott would not have come here if they couldnt sell booze on Sunday.

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Originally posted by Reflecting One of the voices i:
I was advocating Sunday sales, at the same time trying to point out ancillary social costs

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Originally posted by themax:
Do any of yall remember the bootlegger days? I remember when a bootlegger put in a one way glass window. You placed your order and money in a pull through drawer, and boom there was your Wild Turkey. I could name the person but that would not be in the best interest of anyone. BTY I was only 17 then.

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Originally posted by themax:
Joy, you are so right. If it is legal it makes it much harder to get it if you are underage. It was so easy way back then. No one cared how old you were.As long as the money was there.

Makes one think about making things legal, so as to make it harder for underaged kids to get their hands on drugs.

Makes one think doesn't it?

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Originally posted by _Joy_:
Bootleggers still exist in dry counties & it is still easy for kids to get alcohol. Only now, crack is also easy to get. I was one of the lucky ones that didn't get addicted to alcohol, but I have some classmates that were not so lucky. It's pretty sad actually.

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Originally posted by ncardj06:
No, It don't.... Bootleggers many years ago were the ones to see, and the place to be.. you could hang out and drink or you could just make a run, and be back out on the road, doing your usual sunday binge drinking like you would be any other day of the week that ends in "Y".. Sunday sales in other counties and states make it so much easier to take the "outsiders" money, when we could be benifiting from that money right here in our own area, if that is what they want to do with their money than have at it, We as a dry county on just one day, does not justify the fact that it will stop people from stocking up on it on saturday here or in another area that is wet 7 days a week. I personally don't drink, but i think that the ones who do, will always stock up on Saturdays, or will travel to an area where they will be getting another round of that must have nostalgic.

ncardj... you said a mouthful right there!!! No Sunday Sales, No Lotteries, No gambling... our political leaders WANT to control us, but it is not happening ... those who want to drink on Sunday, do it... those who want to buy Lottery tickets ... do it. Those who want to gamble ... do it. Our Political leaders only ONLY letting our money go to other states and other people... when do you think they are going to realize that people are GOING to do what they WANT to do regardless of how many 'little laws' they pass.

I am adult, I do buy Lottery tickets, I have been to Tunica once, but I dont drink. BUT on the other hand, I will protect anyone's right to do with their hard-earned money what they WANT to do with it. Laws will not change what people do ... people will just go somewhere else to do it, and our State, County and Cities all lose that revenue, how smart is that... really?

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Originally posted by brakefield20032003:
Early on in this thread I wondered where the people who were against Sunday sales were. I don't think anyone has shown up to defend the law as it is currently enacted. Obviously the people against Sunday sales are around because they soundly defeated the Colbert County measure. I just want to see someone successfully argue against Sunday sales, so maybe I could understand the other side. As it sits right now, I can not comprehend why one would be against selling alcohol on Sunday when it is sold 6 other days a week.

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Originally posted by _Joy_:
KS/Brakefield/All, I'm not so sure it is just large churches. To be honest, the only Christians I have heard voice opposition to Sunday sales is the older generations. I think they believe is should be illegal every day, but selling it on the Lord's Day is just more than they can stand. So, if they can at least keep it gone on Sunday, they will.

Personally, I see no verses in the Bible that say you cannot have alcoholic drinks at all. In fact, the Bible actually recommends to drink wine for a weak stomach. The only thing the Bible discourages in being drunk regularly. Duh, you think they might have known it's addictive? That's all it is saying, much like other subjects brought up in the Bible, do things in moderation - use your brain!

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Originally posted by brakefield20032003:
Joy, I think you said it right. You too Kindred Spirit. I don't personally know whether large churches were openly against the measure, though I suspect they were. I go to a pretty small church ( <300 members) and the subject was never brought up. In fact, no politics are ever brought up there. We pray for the elected officials but that is about it.

Nonetheless, I am still waiting on someone to make a valid point as to why alcohol should not be sold on Sunday when it is sold on ever other day of the week. Joy, I think that you have probably stated what the anti-alcohol on sunday argument is, but I would like to hear someone really try to defend that point. I know you were just bringing it up to show us all the argument against.

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Nonetheless, I am still waiting on someone to make a valid point as to why alcohol should not be sold on Sunday when it is sold on ever other day of the week. Joy, I think that you have probably stated what the anti-alcohol on sunday argument is, but I would like to hear someone really try to defend that point. I know you were just bringing it up to show us all the argument against.

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Originally posted by REDNEVEDNAV:

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Originally posted by brakefield20032003:
Joy, I think you said it right. You too Kindred Spirit. I don't personally know whether large churches were openly against the measure, though I suspect they were. I go to a pretty small church ( <300 members) and the subject was never brought up. In fact, no politics are ever brought up there. We pray for the elected officials but that is about it.

Nonetheless, I am still waiting on someone to make a valid point as to why alcohol should not be sold on Sunday when it is sold on ever other day of the week. Joy, I think that you have probably stated what the anti-alcohol on sunday argument is, but I would like to hear someone really try to defend that point. I know you were just bringing it up to show us all the argument against.

From a legal standpoint, there is absolutely no arguement against Sunday sales....it is purely a religious issue...so you won't get what you are looking for on here. Unfortunately for the local economies, an individual's vote cannot be debated.

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Originally posted by taint:
They can't but the big casino money from Mississippi, can sure buy a lot of T.V. ads.

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Originally posted by NashBama:
Illegal Sunday alcohol sales achieves one thing, it hurts business. Order a beer or two with your Sunday dinner out and your ticket goes up. Think about the percentage of revenue a convenience store gets from selling beer, that disappears on Sunday. Think about how many liquor (package) stores that can't open at all. The store pays rent for the month regardless of if it's open or not. That's at least 4 days of expenses that generates no revenue.

Does it reduce drinking? Of course not. People just buy on Saturdays, save for Sunday, or just go out of state. The reason no one is arguing for it is because there isn't any logical benefit to argue. It's a bad idea and it surprises me that it's still in effect.

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Honestly, who the hell cares. Drunks are going to find a way to get drunk. Whether it's buy their fix in advance, hit up the bootlegger, or catch a ride to Florence.

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Originally posted by corey23:
Honestly, who the hell cares. Drunks are going to find a way to get drunk. Whether it's buy their fix in advance, hit up the bootlegger, or catch a ride to Florence.

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Originally posted by mustangfan2003:
wait it was against the law to have a business open on sunday? that sounds purely crazy.

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Originally posted by NashBama:

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Honestly, who the hell cares. Drunks are going to find a way to get drunk. Whether it's buy their fix in advance, hit up the bootlegger, or catch a ride to Florence.

Not all drinkers are drunks.

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Originally posted by themax:

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Originally posted by mustangfan2003:
wait it was against the law to have a business open on sunday? that sounds purely crazy.

Yes the blue law, I can remember it. I'm not sure when it repelled. I can't remember if It was done away it part at first [A certian time a business could open]
or if was repelled totally. I'm old and can't recall the year it happened. Maybe someone with a better memory than I, can inlighted us.

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Originally posted by traderconnections:
To Brakefield
I was not going to do this..but in the coming posts I am going to tell you some stories about what is like to run liquor to the locations that retailed the liquor and beer throughout the surrounding counties.....How you equip a car... how the runs were made utilizing the rabbit and turtle technique...How scanners and the telephone was used to decoy..what was the best time to run...how much you got paid...what was the average driver like as for education and income..How it was brought in...how they stored it...where it was stored...and how it was distributed...stories of how one bootlegger did it for years and never got caught..what did he did do to beat the boys in blue..I am going to talk about who purchased, how your average church going citizen knew what was going on, but it was tolerated with a nod and a wink...how your state legislature passed a law tying the hands of the law enforcement personnel that prevented them from adequately enforcing the law.
I am also going to tell you also what it is like to chase those same men I use to run liquor with, as a law enforcement officer...What its like to place handcuffs on your friends, that you have eaten dinner with untold amount of times...The funny thing is we still remained friends after their arrest, and they were still invited to my house and me theirs, eventhou we were on different sides later in our lifes.. Today, I still respect a lot of those men...they were just like you and thousands of others who were trying to support their families the best way they knew how...they had pride, in that none, that I knew of would apply for governmental assistance eventhou they would have qualified for it...It was the pride of providing...not being given something for nothing that made them who they were and are today...They were not thieves, running drugs, fencing stolen goods, etc ...They simply looked on liquor and beer running as a job...if something better had been offered, the majority of them would have quit in a heart beat and went with the one that paid the most...Most are dead now...but their sons and daughters still live here..
You are right about being a "Dry County" does not stop liquor or beer from being sold in that county...being dry only encourages your average citizen to break a stupid *** law, that was established by some individuals with good intentions, but had no clue what they actually created. The Colbert County Citizens cut their own business expansive throat when they did not pass the Sunday law..they did not stop Alcohol from being drank, but just pushed the Colbert County citizen to the Florence Food establishments on Sunday...What is that sound? A giant sucking sound of traffic going into Florence on Sunday Afternoon for a wine, and cold beer with their meal..
Liquor enforcement is and was about taxes...had nothing to do with morality..Where it is legal the City,County and State want their cut...don't put their tax stamp on the bottle or case and watch them get upset...

Wow, very interesting... I cannot wait to hear your tales of the era gone by... trader, I think that deserves a thread all its own

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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
I was just wondering what everyone things about drinking on Sunday. Does simply NOT selling stop the drinking?

I say it doesn't, it only makes those who ARE going to drink double up on Saturday. People are adults, and I don't think that anything they set their minds to doing, providing it is not a violent crime, then they are going to do it.

Does not having a Lottery stop people from not playing in OTHER states Lotteries???? Of course not!!!

Does not having Casino's stop people from gambling? Nope, they just go to Tunica.

Just the few things I have mentioned here means OTHER states are getting richer off of our antique laws.

I play the lottery when I can get tickets. I can because I have the money, I am old enough and I am just can. But WHO benefits? Tennessee of course.

I would like an overall opinion of the Forums on these sort of topics. I think that a lot of this is what makes Big Wheels from other parts of the country NOT locate here, because they are just not used to 'business as usual' on Sunday.

What do you think? I will be back later, got another surgical procedure... UGH!!!

Fun eh??

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Originally posted by REDNEVEDNAV:
**burp..

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Originally posted by mustangfan2003:
from what i hear moonshine is still being made up around franklin county. as far as buying legal liquior i buy 2 or 3 bottles at once in tupelo at a store called la vino. the building used to be a resturant so they got a good amount of space. they sell a lot of different wines but they got just about every kind of liquior you can think of and a fifth of whiskey or whatever runs about the same price and a pint does in florence.

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Originally posted by mustangfan2003:
la vino is great. as much as i shop there i wished they would remember i'm 21.

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Originally posted by mustangfan2003:
from what i hear moonshine is still being made up around franklin county. as far as buying legal liquior i buy 2 or 3 bottles at once in tupelo at a store called la vino. the building used to be a resturant so they got a good amount of space. they sell a lot of different wines but they got just about every kind of liquior you can think of and a fifth of whiskey or whatever runs about the same price and a pint does in florence.

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Originally posted by mackisfor420:
Of course it doesn't... Only an absolute moron would think that no Sunday sales curbs drinking on Sundays... There are bootleggers, Tennesse isn't but about 15 minutes away, and the infamous Saturday double-ups... I don't believe issues like this should even be up for a vote. It should be legal and if you and yours don't want to go to a store and buys alcohol on Sundays, then sit your happy asses at home and shut up... Or go to church and complain about it... If everyone would just shup up and let people do as they wish(as long as they don't harm other people) Things would go a lot more smoothly and maybe we would actually have commerce somewhere on Sundays besides Wal-Mart and the mall... But our area doesn't need extra commerce, does it? We are so well off aren't we?