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...what 'race or sex' God may be represented as? jimi opened this 'can of worms'. I'm curous to see why HE thinks God is 'black and female'...especially since he claims NOT to believe in God in the first place.

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If your a beleiver, then you may stand a good chance of thinking of him as your race or color. But if you believe Adam was created in his image one could conceive of him as male and since we weren't informed about color till well after creation, one might believe he is light skinned and if jews are his chosen people then why wouldn't he be like his chosen people.

As a believer what difference would it be if he resembled the comic character Casper the Friendly Ghost or Elmer Fudd, and I have no idea why anyone who truly doesn't believe would have a clue as to what something that doesn't exist would resemble, It should be similar to photographing a well lit void.

Hi Dog and Rat,

 

God is spirit -- neither male nor female.  Jesus Christ became the Incarnate God as a male baby.  In the Bible, God is always referred to as male -- and, since He inspired the writing of the Bible through the forty male writers -- we have to assume that is the interpretation He intended.

 

Why would God want to be considered male?  Well, He first created Adam and then, from him, He created Eve.  God established the family unit with the man as the spiritual leader -- not the physical nor dominant leader, not a male chauvinist leader -- but, the loving spiritual leader of the family.

 

Is this the best arrangement?  I cannot say; but, it is the arrangement chosen by God.  And, I accept it.

 

So, since man is the head of the human family, and Christ is head of the spiritual, or church, family -- we must think of God the Son in the same sense -- male.  And, keep in mind that He is called God the SON -- not God the DAUGHTER.

 

What was the skin color of Adam and Eve?  They were brown skinned.  Why do I say this?  Skin color is determined by the melanin in the skin pigments.  Melanin protects our skin from the sun's UV rays and normal melanin level in skin pigments gives a brown skin. 

 

Later, as people began to migrate into different parts of the world, their melanin level adapted to their new climates.   Those who migrated into Africa gained more melanin to protect their skin from the hot African sun -- so, they began to have darker skin.  Those who migrated into the milder climates such as Europe needed less melanin to protect them from the sun's UV rays -- so, their skin became whiter.

 

Since man began in the Middle East, we have to assume brown skin of that area to be the norm.  So, Jesus Christ was most likely born a brown skinned man -- in His human nature.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Adam, in reality, was most likely "Eve".  Bill is trying once again to make a science book out of the Bible.  It can't be done, but as Bill has pointed out, without the idea of Genesis being literal his whole belief system blows away more easily than a house of cards.  Because men wrote the Bible, God is a father figure.  If women had written it, s/he would be a mother figure.  The only thing Bill got right is that God is a "spirit", though Bill has no idea what that really means.

Crust-0-matic

      Sorry but the Bible is a science book and contains as much as man will ever know about the cosmos.

We are limited as to what we know about the cosmos by non other than speculation. For instance we have gone from a static universe to an expanding one and really cannot prove either case. We went from a classical Newtonian/ Euclidian universe to one of quantum/classical with no unification of the two. Man will never explain gravity; he can only speculate about what it is.

        The Bible says God is a spirit and the Creator. That’s all you will ever know.  Don’t anticipate facts because they are well beyond mans reach.

Crust-0-matic,

   We simply just can’t keep running around here massaging mathematics to explain thought experiments of 4 fundamental forces namely the electromagnetic, strong and weak nuclear and the gravitational force.

   For the sake of sanity there must be a unification of these forces. We can’t keep a straight face when properties of one force flies in the face of explaining another. That faux science is hand waving an explanation.

   The only explanation is recorded in the Bible; God did it. Deal with it.

It’s fun to study and wonder but as far as cosmological knowledge is concerned we are just novices blowing money that could be better spent feeding the hungry.

I know too much crust. We spend way too much money on cosmology. Medical research could use the money. The story in the Bible makes just as much sense as the big bang. The big bang is a stretch crust-0. I know where the bodies are buried.

    There is a mountain of reading about the work and listening to the leading scientists dead and alive. It is all so disconnected and dogma like it’s silly to complain about a believer and God.

Scientists believe in evolution either because of:

- ignorance (they haven't looked at the evidence), -fear (if they say they don't believe in evolution now they will  lose their job [seriously!] ) -they have been brainwashed into believing  there is only one option -the education system and media are pro-evolution  and anti-creation , and teach evolution as incontrovertible fact when it isn't -people confuse macro-evolution and micro-evolution. -If they don't  want to believe in creation there is no other option for them.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_...Theory#ixzz1idh3jVqj

 

crust-0, you know this but don't want to look. as long as you don't insist on the truth you will never find it

The only consistent description of God is in terms of human experience.  The god of the Old Testament is much like the superstitious shepherds who invented him.  The god of Hinduism, or one of them at any rate, is a blue elephant-headed person.  We understand blue and elephants.
Any god worthy of the title is beyond our comprehension, and therefor not worthy of our attention.  Let us be grateful that there is no evidence for any such gods.

 

DF

Originally Posted by lexum:

Scientists believe in evolution either because of:

- ignorance (they haven't looked at the evidence), -fear (if they say they don't believe in evolution now they will  lose their job [seriously!] ) -they have been brainwashed into believing  there is only one option -the education system and media are pro-evolution  and anti-creation , and teach evolution as incontrovertible fact when it isn't -people confuse macro-evolution and micro-evolution. -If they don't  want to believe in creation there is no other option for them.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_...Theory#ixzz1idh3jVqj

 

crust-0, you know this but don't want to look. as long as you don't insist on the truth you will never find it

lexum is a raving lunatic.

quote:    Originally Posted by Deep Not Shallow Not Slim

The only consistent description of God is in terms of human experience.  The god of the Old Testament is much like the superstitious shepherds who invented him.  The god of Hinduism, or one of them at any rate, is a blue elephant-headed person.  We understand blue and elephants.  Any god worthy of the title is beyond our comprehension, and therefor not worthy of our attention.  Let us be grateful that there is no evidence for any such gods. DF


Hi Deep,

 

Actually, Christian faith is not based upon experiential feelings.  It is based upon faith in the one true God.  Experiences change with life -- and, if a person has based his/her faith upon experiences -- they have no foundation upon which to stand when life deals a hard blow.  Faith based upon the grace of God and anc****d through faith in Jesus Christ will stand against all the storms of life. 

 

Read Hebrews 11 and it will testify about how many of the Old Testament people were saved by their faith in the coming Messiah and in the promises of God.  Today, our Messiah, our Christ, has already come, paid in full our debt to God, assured eternal life for all people -- and is in heaven right now, at the right hand of God, interceding for all believers.

 

One day, and no one knows when, He WILL return and take His church, His body of believers out of this world.  This is the faith that all Christian bellievers stand upon -- not experiences.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:

The only consistent description of God is in terms of human experience.  The god of the Old Testament is much like the superstitious shepherds who invented him.  The god of Hinduism, or one of them at any rate, is a blue elephant-headed person.  We understand blue and elephants.
Any god worthy of the title is beyond our comprehension, and therefor not worthy of our attention.  Let us be grateful that there is no evidence for any such gods.

 DF

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You had to know this was going to earn you one of those "actually" sermons from the KIA forum preacher, right?  

A telling quote by DF:  "Any god worthy of the title is beyond our comprehension, and therefor not worthy of our attention"

 

   deep's quote here varifies that he is limited in comprehension.  therein friends lieth the problem.  deep is, string-haltered and cannot fathom the depths of knowledge.

    deep i recommend the 6k package w/instructions for you.

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