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lie, cheat, tell anyone what they wanna hear, to get elected... the republican way!

if liberals are drinking the "koolaid"... then rt. wingnuts must be drinking from the fountain of ignorance. romney used his normal "double talk" and you nuts are buying it , hook, line, and sinker.  EVERY fact checking organization has the same report... romney couldn't' tell the truth if jesus was the moderator!

I assume you repubs are not millionaires. Then you are in the 47% along with me. Unless you are mentally chalenged you will understand what I'm about to tell you.

1. Republicans voted against social security, medicare, dissability, welfare for america's poor, and all other poor and midleclass help for american public. they voted against by an80% margin in 1933. this means republicans could care less about you and I. they got theirs now you get yours.

2. They want a strong military not to protect you but to protect their investments over seas.

3. They don't want medical insurance for all americans because the insurance companies give billions of dollars to the republican cause. Medical insurance companies are very similar to auto and home insuranes companies, they want your premium but do not like paying out claims. You auto and home insurance will drop you if you claim too often. Medical insurance companies simply deny pre-existing sick people coverage and make everyone elses deductibles so high, that they go to the doctor less.

4. They want middle class to pay more in taxes and the rich to pay less. Do you honestly think if you were a millionaire and your financial advisor came to you and said that you will receive $250,000 more in earnings because of the tax berak, you would:

a.  call up your business partners and say "hire more poor people"

b. call up yiour business partners and say "expand our plant in China"

c. call up your agent and tell him to go ahead and buy that new 60 foot boat you've been looking at.

 

It just amazes me that so many people in the 5 poorest states in the union vote republican. I wish just one of you could name one thing that the republican party has done for you.

Best, businesses close every day. Even in a great economy. However, small businesses are growing and employing more than they were in 2009.

 

Look at the real numbers.

The ADP (ADP) Employment Report, a monthly analysis of employment at more than 300,000 private businesses using ADP payroll services, shows that companies with up to 49 workers employed 2.6 percent more people in March 2012 than they did in July 2009, when the economic recovery began. Similarly, businesses with 50 to 499 workers employed 3.2 percent more people last month than they did at the start of the recovery.

Originally Posted by Chuck Farley:

Wow they shed all those jobs and hired 2.6% back, Is that's sort of like the 50% off everything at the store after you raise the prices by 75%.  With all this robust hiring it's a wonder 50% of college graduates can't find jobs or why household income is down 4,000 a year while EVERYTHING else rises.

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If I understand what you are trying to say here with your monkey math, you don't argue that the economy was in a downward spiraling freefall when President Obama took office and we were loosing 800,000 jobs a month. Ok, you seem to be confused with the fact that we have been in recovery from that and growth is still growth. Maybe things are going as fast as you would like? Is that the problem?

 

Check your numbers...you are not even close to reality.

Originally Posted by Jankinonya:
Originally Posted by Chuck Farley:

Wow they shed all those jobs and hired 2.6% back, Is that's sort of like the 50% off everything at the store after you raise the prices by 75%.  With all this robust hiring it's a wonder 50% of college graduates can't find jobs or why household income is down 4,000 a year while EVERYTHING else rises.

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If I understand what you are trying to say here with your monkey math, you don't argue that the economy was in a downward spiraling freefall when President Obama took office and we were loosing 800,000 jobs a month. Ok, you seem to be confused with the fact that we have been in recovery from that and growth is still growth. Maybe things are going as fast as you would like? Is that the problem?

 

Check your numbers...you are not even close to reality.

Check your president.

These Democrats and Obama supporters don't care one whim about the truth, they don't care about it being a Hanky they have to resurrect some way, no matter what, to try and rescue the absolute disastrous performance of their guy.   Well sorry to tell you Democrats but your President's performance at the debate unfortunately greatly excels above his actual performance as our President.    

 

His Debate performance mirrors his Administration's performance and not only hasn't been the least bit effective at reducing the deficit but has greatly increased it.  Gas Prices are more than double when he took over but NO drilling in the Gulf to help out.  His decisions have hurt our ability to get fuel from anyone other than OPEC.  How about Job #1 Protecting the American People?  Proof is coming out now that the very Embassy that was attacked where American's were killed requested help and more security and it was not provided or granted.  ASLEEP at the wheel is the term that comes to mind.  What about the parading out of government officials all along afterwards to blame all that on an obscure video to deflect attention from the Administration's failures.  Not only has this Administration failed in it's mission but it's actions are so bad it should not only be replaced it should be prosecuted.  They are lying about the real cause of the deaths, not the attacks, because they dropped the ball.  They had Officials that knew better lie to the American people to protect the President.  Now we have a very highly suspect unemployment report with the greatest gain in 29 or so years that just happens now. 

 

http://www.weeklystandard.com/...epticism_653731.html

 

When I saw this I thought about the State Department employee who bold faced lied to the American People and sympathetic press about the Attacks on our Embassy.  You cannot believe the Government anymore nor the Press whose main man is worthless and proved it when he was left unsupported against a man with actual experience and who actually knew his stuff.

 

Cheating????   Only from the Administration who obviously will do anything to maintain their power and status.  Funny thing is in a day when people should be able to know more they still support him blindly.  I'll ask again what is it going to take for folks to actually realize this guy is not only dangerous for our Nation's future but a complete failure in every way.   Sure he's likeable but Leaving Obama as President is like allowing a Likable Drunk to drive the Bus just because he's a good guy.  He's about to take us all over the cliff and kill our Economy along with what stagnant recovery we may be attempting.  It still amazes me the number of people that continue to support Obama with NO QUESTIONING about his performance and results.  For one there are no Results that effect the economy and troubled nation in any positive way.

Originally Posted by O No!:

I WISH people would get it through their heads that oil is a global market and presidents, Republican, Democrat, European, South American, or any other type of president have NOTHING to do with oil prices.

O No, I realize that we have opposite feelings here about who is best and why but let me attempt to at least clarify what I mean when I bring up the increase in fuel cost and for that matter the availability.  I do also realize that there are risk and potential disasters that can happen from drilling such as the BP blowout in the gulf but the facts are that Obama and most Democrats are and have been against drilling close to our Nations s****s due to the beaches.  There are limits many places, some imposed by various states but others by the federal Government that apply to just off our Coast.  As it is BP and other companies were forced, due to restrictions to drip much deeper and away from the coast.  Anwar (Alaska) was see as pristine land and drilling was prohibited on federal lands due to fears of contaminating those lands or effecting the wildlife.  Not all that is bad but it is felt that drilling can be done in some places safely without dangering the enviornment. 

 

With Regards to Obama, specifically, he stopped ALL drilling in the Gulf by companies that the US had control over.  Exploration and Drilling was also prohibited on many other government lands and areas of federal land as well as, of course, the Pipeline from Canada that Obama was against and would not approve.

 

I agree Obama or any other President has no ability to effect the prices that OPEC charges but what the president does have the ability to do is allow access to more oil, from American sources and companies on federal controlled lands that could provide Americans with a source of much cheaper oil.  Without allowing access to that oil under those lands then we are tied to dealing with OPEC and paying whatever price they want and demand, we have no other choice.  Obama is right about oil production being higher under Him but that oil production is totally out of his control, on private land and by private companies that the Government cannot tell don't drill there.  In other words IF Obama and the Government would open up drilling in the gulf again, in Anwar, and other lands and allow more oil into the country from our own reserves then we would be less dependent on OPEC and could tell them to shove it if we didn't like their prices.  Due to the additional oil and less demand then OPEC could and would reduce prices so indirectly it can be said that the President and an Administration's policies can effect the oil price and availability.  Now if I am mistaken on any part of that I hope someone will correct it and I'll consider any conflicting views but I do believe that Obama and the policies in effect now do force us to pay more for Oil and fuels and that's the reason I make that connection.

 

Originally Posted by yoda:

i wish someone would explain to me... if romney is such a great business man... why is his campaign 11 million dollars in the hole?

Source / URL please?   I find it very difficult to believe with donations far exceeding that amount coming in weekly that his campaign cannot pay.  What I do believe is that it's possible that there is, at any particular time, as much as an 11 million dollar balance that is to be paid but I have all faith that the campaign will pay all their bills.  So if what you are saying is that they are in default by 11 million I'd love to see the source of that information and would kindly and respectfully ask you to provide your source and URL that collaborates that assertion.

 

Republican Mitt Romney's presidential campaign is $11 million in debt after it borrowed $20 million in August to pay for expenses before it could tap into general election dollars.

Here's more from National Review Online, which first reported the story:

"Before the Republican National Convention, Mitt Romney was the Republican nominee in all but name. By law, however, he could only spend primary donations until he officially became nominee. To increase cash flow during the interregnum, the Romney campaign borrowed $20 million."

A senior Romney aide told NRO that they collateralized the debt with $20 million of general election funds already in the campaign's bank account.

"This is permitted by Federal Election Commission rules," the aide told NRO. "In the past, the FEC has specifically contemplated candidates putting up their public financing payments as collateral."

Here's more from the story:

"In order to compete with President Obama, the senior aide continues, Romney's advisers could not sit on their hands until they were able to use general-election funds.

So far, $9 million has been paid back. Five million was paid back before the end of August and an additional $4 million has been paid back in September.

When federal election reports are released later this week, they'll show debt of $15 million, but the campaign's actual debt is roughly $11 million. The campaign will soon begin fundraising to pay off the remainder.

The Romney campaign borrowed the money in August from the Bank of Georgetown, just as many of its primary dollars were drying up."

full article here

Originally Posted by yoda:

 

Republican Mitt Romney's presidential campaign is $11 million in debt after it borrowed $20 million in August to pay for expenses before it could tap into general election dollars.

Here's more from National Review Online, which first reported the story:

"Before the Republican National Convention, Mitt Romney was the Republican nominee in all but name. By law, however, he could only spend primary donations until he officially became nominee. To increase cash flow during the interregnum, the Romney campaign borrowed $20 million."

A senior Romney aide told NRO that they collateralized the debt with $20 million of general election funds already in the campaign's bank account.

"This is permitted by Federal Election Commission rules," the aide told NRO. "In the past, the FEC has specifically contemplated candidates putting up their public financing payments as collateral."

Here's more from the story:

"In order to compete with President Obama, the senior aide continues, Romney's advisers could not sit on their hands until they were able to use general-election funds.

So far, $9 million has been paid back. Five million was paid back before the end of August and an additional $4 million has been paid back in September.

When federal election reports are released later this week, they'll show debt of $15 million, but the campaign's actual debt is roughly $11 million. The campaign will soon begin fundraising to pay off the remainder.

The Romney campaign borrowed the money in August from the Bank of Georgetown, just as many of its primary dollars were drying up."

full article here

No big deal here Yoda as all campaigns do this.  Romney's campaign will (win or lose) pay off all campaign debts and will not leave anyone holding the bag.  That's can be said of other candidates from history.

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