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It seems so many people are against Donald Trump more on issues of like-ability over ability..  Trump's policies and term has been a very effective and successful one but most of those opposed to him are opposed to him for reasons that they just don't like him.  They don't like his ego or his texting or the way he says things.  Joe Biden is likable and may well win over Trump because many people vote party line regardless of who is running or how things are going at the time, or so it seems more so these days than ever before.  

If things were based on the economy and the way things were going in the Nation verses the years before Trump was elected then there should be no way he could lose but there is a full court press, in the media, to make Trump appear in a negative light and it's highly possible that it will take a toll on his ability to win.  I also believe if Trump is defeated that almost immediately the stock market will tank and based upon what Democrats have said they would want and if Trumps policies are responsible for the Nation's turnaround then it's also possible that a Biden election would tank the economy also but people seem more willing to accept that, or so it seems.

Here is the thing about Joe Biden that scares me.  Biden, like Trump is very old for a President or anyone.  Most people that age in any other jobs are long retired so voters need to look carefully at their Vice President choices and from what I've heard Biden is looking at Stacey Abrams who would be a strictly political pick and doesn't have any resume as a leader or hasn't done anything to make me think our Nation would be in good hands if she ascended to power.  Anymore (and I know Trump's election goes totally against this) our Presidential elections have been glorified beauty pageants with the more desirable candidate being elected over say the most qualified.  Trump's business experience was an exception and he was qualified and his policies tend to reinforce that.  Biden is a career politician and not a business person and would be a popular choice.  

Regardless of what happens we are all going along for the ride so it's going to be an interesting time.  No matter who wins I predict that a huge percent of the population will be of the opinion that the result of the election will be no less than the End of our Nation as it is or was as that seems to be the political world we are in today.

Be as the Bereans ( Acts 17:11 )

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remember many that don't like President Trump loved him until he took on their golden pick Clinton.  That includes Clinton who said we need more people like Trump that can't be bought running for office.   Most that hate him don't even have a real reason.  Sad and funny how they love celebs until the celeb runs against the favorite

gbrk posted:

I actually heard NBC report on the good economic news but did all they could to keep from attributing the economy to Trump.

To be honest, anyone who thinks a single politician all by hisself creates a great economy or crashes the economy doesn't understand economics and didn't learn a thing in Civics class. At best, the goobermint can stay out of the way of the movers and shakers of the economic world, which Trump has wisely done.

Now comes the Civics lesson; it takes both the legislative branch and the executive branch to create laws that burden the productive people of this country and set things in motion for a crash. The last great bust came about because this nation thought it was a good idea to create laws and regulations to put people in houses they couldn't afford and also made it too easy for house flippers and other real estate speculators to get in over their heads.

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Jack Hammer posted:
That's sound logic but a safe bet would be if Helda had won, the
economy would still be in stagnation mode.
Even worse if she let in the 5000 percent more Islamics than Obumer
 did into America, as she promised.
 
Obumer would still run the show, whichever Shiite beat Thump.

No argument there, if the worst person had won in 2016, there's no way pro-business Republicans would ever get two thirds majorities in the House and Senate to fix the past stupidity. Unless US businesses out bid international gifts to the Clinton Foundation, flat-line GDP numbers would turn into negative GDP numbers eventually. No amount of Federal Reserve games will ever fix graft and stupidity.

As to welfare seeking immigrants, they probably would crash the economy that much sooner.

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