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What is our country coming to? How can we print "in God we trust" on our money and say that we are "one nation under God" if we are supporting ***s in the military...not even just in the military, but in general. Our country was founded by men who believed in God and his Holy word...now our government and citizens are making a mockery out of it...we the people should be ashamed!
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Originally Posted by April79:
What is our country coming to? How can we print "in God we trust" on our money and say that we are "one nation under God" if we are supporting ***s in the military...not even just in the military, but in general. Our country was founded by men who believed in God and his Holy word...now our government and citizens are making a mockery out of it...we the people should be ashamed!
Our country was founded by men who understood the evils of christianity and took steps to keep it out of government. You might want to read a book before you spout your sillyness.

 

Originally Posted by April79:
What is our country coming to? How can we print "in God we trust" on our money and say that we are "one nation under God" if we are supporting ***s in the military...not even just in the military, but in general. Our country was founded by men who believed in God and his Holy word...now our government and citizens are making a mockery out of it...we the people should be ashamed!

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You the people should actually consider yourself fortunate that "the g ays in the military" will defend your right to be a homophobic fundamentalist christian chooch bigot anyway with up to and including their lives.  Don't worry. They'll fight just as hard as their straight comrades.

 

Hmm... It must be hard to voice all that irrational hate what with your foot constantly flying up into your mouth alla time.  Prolly hard to walk, too, I imagine.

 

 

LOL. 

 


 

Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by April79:
What is our country coming to? How can we print "in God we trust" on our money and say that we are "one nation under God" if we are supporting ***s in the military...not even just in the military, but in general. Our country was founded by men who believed in God and his Holy word...now our government and citizens are making a mockery out of it...we the people should be ashamed!

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You the people should actually consider yourself fortunate that "the g ays in the military" will defend your right to be a homophobic fundamentalist christian chooch bigot anyway with up to and including their lives.  Don't worry. They'll fight just as hard as their straight comrades.

 

Hmm... It must be hard to voice all that irrational hate what with your foot constantly flying up into your mouth alla time.  Prolly hard to walk, too, I imagine.

 

 

LOL. 

 ...................................................Agree with Road Puppy!!


 

 

Once again, RP is the voice of reason.

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You the people should actually consider yourself fortunate that "the g ays in the military" will defend your right to be a homophobic fundamentalist christian chooch bigot anyway with up to and including their lives.  Don't worry. They'll fight just as hard as their straight comrades.


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Well said.
Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:

The military is more than 50% gaey.

Its really the perfect situation for a gaey.

You're stuck with nothing but men.  Showering.  Sleeping.  Tickle fights.  The Romans had the same sort of men in their Legions.  History always repeats. 

You have said some mighty dumb things on this forum, but this may rise to the top. You think g a y men join the military, fight oversees, and sometime sacrifice their life to have more frequent community showers and "tickle fights?" Obviously you are no fan of g a ys or the military. Maybe their sexual preference is irrelevant and they just want to serve their country?

Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:

Our founding fathers could have never imagined a society where homosexuality is considered normal or acceptable.  Our obvious slow but steady decline in morality (I'm not just speaking of homosexuality) is the root of our problems and why we as a nation are in a flaming tailspin right now. 

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Actually our morality isn't declining any more than it ever was-it's just that nowadays with the internet and all the news media this information is at our fingertips all the time-we're just hearing about it a lot more because we CAN.

 

Bad stuff has always been happening here, but before news media had the technology to go worldwide or even countrywide instantly-People in "Podunk" only pretty much knew what was happening in "Podunk" and maybe one county over if their brother's nephew's third cousin happened to come over and talk about where he lived.

  Back then stuff outside where ya lived didn't matter much-Now the whole world is right in front of ya.

 

Kinda like airplane flights. The only ones ya ever hear about are the ones that crash. Nobody cares about the thousands that takeoff and land safely every day 'cuz that's not news.

 

I heard tell that the Wild West was pretty darn bad compared to things today.

 

I'm sure our founding fathers knew about the homosexuals in Egypt and Rome and even in England, but it apparently wasn't that big a deal to them. 

I don't believe moral decline is the root of this country's problems.  I believe that apathy might have something to do with it, though. That and possibly religion. Religion does tend to hold folks back. I dunno.

 

Funny that, ditto....I missed all that when I was in.

Most of the guys were too busy doing their jobs to bother with 'tickle fights.'

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Where else would the gaeys gravitate toward???  Thats why there are laws to prevent child sex offenders from living near daycares and schools.  And, laws to prevent Catholic priest from being alone with little boys overnight.  Its just human nature.  The gaey afflicts about twice the number of folks in the military compared to the general population. 

Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:

Where else would the gaeys gravitate toward???  Thats why there are laws to prevent child sex offenders from living near daycares and schools.  And, laws to prevent Catholic priest from being alone with little boys overnight.  Its just human nature.  The gaey afflicts about twice the number of folks in the military compared to the general population. 

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Where else? Wilson Park and McFarland Park in Florence, f'rinstance. LOL.  There's more fruit in that place than in a Florida Orange grove.

 

Plenty of 'em on high school sports teams around here-and I don't have 'ga ydar' so ya know it's gotta be pretty obvious for me to notice.

 

Lotsa sex offenders are straight.

See? While some sex offenders are g ay, most g ays aren't sex offenders.

 

What glued and screwed-down-tight lil' minds we got here!

 

Guaranteed there's more g ays outside the military than there are in.

I think I knew one the whole four years I was in and that's only because I worked with him.

I never knew he was g ay untl he made a comment when we were off duty once that struck me funny. Other than that I never would have known. He conducted himself in a very efficient and honorable manner pretty much at all times.

 

How many homosexual men do you know personally?

Or do you only frequent places where flamers hang out?

 

Sounds like you could use a primer on how *** guys work. (I prolly could too, but I'm not predjudiced against them.)

 

Maybe we could find us a good, butch militant le sbian to clue us in.

 

Heh. Bring yer hockey mask...

 

 


 

All through history there have been homosexuals, and it could just be me but it seems like they were more accepted in the past. Do people actually think our "founding fathers" didn't know about homosexuals? I'm sure they could have honestly said "some of my best friends are poofs".

I just can't figure out why all the male homophobes think g a y men are lusting after their wrinkled old butts.

Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:

The military is more than 50% gaey.

Its really the perfect situation for a gaey.

You're stuck with nothing but men.  Showering.  Sleeping.  Tickle fights.  The Romans had the same sort of men in their Legions.  History always repeats. 

Ditzy,

 

This is one of the most assinine statements you've ever made.  Prove it! 

 

As to the Roman legions, NO!  Such behavior got you executed.  Study their history more closely.

 

True, the Greek city-state of Thebes had their Sacred Band of lovers of men.  They were the first sent to foreign battle fields and the first unit sent into battle to protect the city.  In an era of low population, the Theban city fathers ensured those who would not reproduce were eliminated from the gene pool, first. 

i could be wrong but I have never heard of homosexual behavior in Rome getting anyone executed. If memory serves, which could be fuzzy, it was mostly accepted and or ignored. Would you have a link? The idea of sending homosexual lovers to war together was not to "clear the gene pool". It was thought that they'd fight harder to protect their lovers. Might want to look that up.

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Originally Posted by Jennifer:

i could be wrong but I have never heard of homosexual behavior in Rome getting anyone executed. If memory serves, which could be fuzzy, it was mostly accepted and or ignored. Would you have a link? The idea of sending homosexual lovers to war together was not to "clear the gene pool". It was thought that they'd fight harder to protect their lovers. Might want to look that up.

Homosexual activity amongst the citizens of Rome was illegal.  Using a male slave for sex was not, but not to be used by the slave.   

 

For a link, I'd reference Gibbon's The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, my favorite is the Folio edition. 

 

As to the Sacred Band, true they were believed to fight better together.  However, the practical side must be viewed from their era.  Not. just the politically correct view of today. Consider the city fathers of that era who must balance their scarce population against those they send to war.  I'd suggest Will Durant's History of Civilization, Volume 2, I believe.  Going from memory on that.   

It has nothing to do with being PC. I've just never heard or read, anything suggesting they felt the men were dispensible because they were homosexuals. Even in "modern" wars it has been suggested that brothers fighting with brothers, lovers fighting together etc. would mean they'd fight harder. I've read about women dressing as men to fight in the Civil War. They all had their reasons, but one account was of the woman doing it to protect her husband. Sadly it didn't work, although she survived unharmed he was killed.

It has nothing to do with being PC. I've just never heard or read, anything suggesting they felt the men were dispensible because they were homosexuals. Even in "modern" wars it has been suggested that brothers fighting with brothers, lovers fighting together etc. would mean they'd fight harder. I've read about women dressing as men to fight in the Civil War. They all had their reasons, but one account was of the woman doing it to protect her husband. Sadly it didn't work, although she survived unharmed he was killed.

Brothers serving together can be a strength.  It can also devastate a family. Never forget the five who were killed on the same ship in WWII.  One of the reasons I served a second tour in Nam, was so they couldn't sent my brother over, without his consent.  He really wasn't cut out for the military life.

 

Please don't mistake me for being anti-gaey.  As I've stated, I'm a paleo-conservative with a nasty libertarian streak.  My preference would be to simply replace state sanctioned marriages with a civil license with the same legal benefits and contractual obligations.  With that, the couple could go to the church, cathedral, temple, synagogue, mosque or yurt of their choice to be married before God, Allah, Gaia, Buddah, or the FSM!

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