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Originally posted by Northwest24:
I am a very concerned citizen of the Shoals area (particularly Sheffield), but I have one question to ask: WHY CAN'T WE TURN LEFT ON GREEN??? I mean, there are red lights in the most unnecessary places (not to mention unsynchronized) and stop signs at 3 way intersections in the middle of the road. If a person can't drive around thise area without all these red lights and stop signs, then they simply don't need to be on the road. Its not a hard area to drive in. And i'm still bothered by the old woman whom just sat waiting to turn right with no cars in sight. Unbelievable!!


i'm confussed, do you want to turn left or right?
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Originally posted by unclegus:
It is my understanding that if the car in front of you has their right turn signal on out of courtesy you notify the one behind you the same.

One thing that really !@%%$* me off is when you are trying to pass a car, then all at once the turn their left turn signal on.


Actually giving "repeating" turn signals is against the law. (And BTW, driving barefoot is NOT, as some people insist). See paragraph (d) below. I know I've seen people doing it as long as I can remember here in AL but truth is, you should be aware of what's going on in front of you. And if everyone repeated it as a courtesy, you may have a whole line of cars all with turn signals on when only one is turning. If traffic is slowed or stopped, you slow/stop accordingly. If you're trying to pass in these situations without KNOWING what's happening in front of you, you take the risk of being at fault if you have an accident.

Ala.Code 1975 § 32-5A-133

Title 32. Motor Vehicles and Traffic.
5A. Rules of the Road.
Article 6. . Turning, Starting, and Stopping Generally.
§ 32-5A-133. Turning movements and required signals.


(a) No person shall turn a vehicle or move right or left upon a roadway unless and until such movement can be made with reasonable safety nor without giving an appropriate signal in the manner hereinafter provided.

(b) A signal of intention to turn right or left when required shall be given continuously during not less than the last 100 feet traveled by the vehicle before turning.

(c) No person shall stop or suddenly decrease the speed of a vehicle without first giving an appropriate signal in the manner provided herein to the driver of any vehicle immediately to the rear when there is opportunity to give such signal.

(d) The signals provided for in Section 32-5A-134(b) shall not be flashed on one side only on a disabled vehicle, flashed as a courtesy or “do pass” signal to operators of other vehicles approaching from the rear, nor be flashed on one side only of a parked vehicle except as may be necessary for compliance with this section.
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Originally posted by lawguy07:
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Originally posted by unclegus:
It is my understanding that if the car in front of you has their right turn signal on out of courtesy you notify the one behind you the same.

One thing that really !@%%$* me off is when you are trying to pass a car, then all at once the turn their left turn signal on.


Actually giving "repeating" turn signals is against the law. (And BTW, driving barefoot is NOT, as some people insist). See paragraph (d) below. I know I've seen people doing it as long as I can remember here in AL but truth is, you should be aware of what's going on in front of you. And if everyone repeated it as a courtesy, you may have a whole line of cars all with turn signals on when only one is turning. If traffic is slowed or stopped, you slow/stop accordingly. If you're trying to pass in these situations without KNOWING what's happening in front of you, you take the risk of being at fault if you have an accident.

Ala.Code 1975 § 32-5A-133

Title 32. Motor Vehicles and Traffic.
5A. Rules of the Road.
Article 6. . Turning, Starting, and Stopping Generally.
§ 32-5A-133. Turning movements and required signals.


(a) No person shall turn a vehicle or move right or left upon a roadway unless and until such movement can be made with reasonable safety nor without giving an appropriate signal in the manner hereinafter provided.

(b) A signal of intention to turn right or left when required shall be given continuously during not less than the last 100 feet traveled by the vehicle before turning.

(c) No person shall stop or suddenly decrease the speed of a vehicle without first giving an appropriate signal in the manner provided herein to the driver of any vehicle immediately to the rear when there is opportunity to give such signal.

(d) The signals provided for in Section 32-5A-134(b) shall not be flashed on one side only on a disabled vehicle, flashed as a courtesy or “do pass” signal to operators of other vehicles approaching from the rear, nor be flashed on one side only of a parked vehicle except as may be necessary for compliance with this section.


barefoot may be ok for privately owned vehicles, but, it's illegal in a commercial vehicle i.e. an 18 wheeler
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flashed as a courtesy or “do pass” signal to operators of other vehicles approaching from the rear


Gus, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Paragraph (c) as I read it is still referring to signaling your own intentions, not those of a driver in front of you. Paragraph (d) appears to me to clearly prohibit giving "courtesy" signals: "shall not be flashed...as a courtesy or “do pass” signal to operators of other vehicles approaching from the rear..."

I guess even if it is illegal it's probably not enforced. I've never heard of anyone ticketed for it. Where's a cop when you need one? Smiler
Wow, you guys are going into extremely specific details regarding trivial points of driving 'laws'. While this is certainly informative, I feel that it is entirely unnecessary...kind of like giving a college level lecture to 6th graders. It is my personal observation that most of the drivers in this area have still to understand vastly simpler driving tasks such as driving at least the posted speed limit, negotiating a 4-way stop, merging...or just simply staying within the lines of their chosen lane. With regard to the debate herein, it has also been my observation that the people who complain the loudest are oftentimes the absolute worst offenders of that which they are complaining about (this phenomenon seems to be magnified here in the Shoals as compared to other areas in the U.S.).
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Originally posted by lawguy07:
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Originally posted by canade:
I thought you could turn left on green (even if the left turn signal is off or red) if there is no traffic coming. Ooops, my bad.


I stand to be corrected by one of our resident LEOs, but I don't believe you can turn on a red arrow even if the green light in the go-straight lane is on. I understand if the turn lane itself has both a round green light and a green arrow. But I think a red arrow in the left turn lane means just that: You can't turn.

Ala.Code 1975 § 32-5A-32. Traffic-control signal legend.


Whenever traffic is controlled by traffic-control signals exhibiting different colored lights, or colored lighted arrows, successively one at a time or in combination, only the colors green, red, and yellow shall be used, except for special pedestrian signals carrying a word or symbol legend, and the lights shall indicate and apply to drivers of vehicles and pedestrians as follows:

(1) Green indication:

a. Vehicular traffic facing a circular green signal may proceed straight through or turn right or left unless a sign at such place prohibits either such turn. But vehicular traffic, including vehicles turning right or left, shall yield the right-of-way to other vehicles and to pedestrians lawfully within the intersection or an adjacent crosswalk at the time such signal is exhibited.

b. Vehicular traffic facing a green arrow signal, shown alone or in combination with another indication, may cautiously enter the intersection only to make the movement indicated by such arrow, or such other movement as is permitted by other indications shown at the same time. Such vehicular traffic shall yield the right-of-way to pedestrians lawfully within an adjacent crosswalk and to other traffic lawfully using the intersection.

c. Unless otherwise directed by a pedestrian-control signal, as provided in Section 32-5A-33, pedestrians facing any green signal, except when the sole green signal is a turn arrow, may proceed across the roadway within any marked or unmarked crosswalk.

(2) Steady yellow indication:

a. Vehicular traffic facing a steady circular yellow or yellow arrow signal is thereby warned that the related green movement is being terminated or that a red indication will be exhibited immediately thereafter.

b. Pedestrians facing a steady circular yellow or yellow arrow signal, unless otherwise directed by a pedestrian-control signal as provided in Section 32-5A-33, are thereby advised that there is insufficient time to cross the roadway before a red indication is shown and no pedestrian shall then start to cross the roadway.

(3) Steady red indication:

a. Vehicular traffic facing a steady circular red signal alone shall stop at a clearly marked stop line, but if none, before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection, or if none, then before entering the intersection and shall remain standing until an indication to proceed is shown except as provided in subdivision (3)b.

b. Except when a sign is in place prohibiting a turn, vehicular traffic facing any steady red signal may cautiously enter the intersection to turn right, or to turn left from a one-way street into a one-way street, after stopping as required by subdivision (3)a. Such vehicular traffic shall yield the right of way to pedestrians lawfully within an adjacent crosswalk and to other traffic lawfully using the intersection.

c. Unless otherwise directed by a pedestrian-control signal as provided in Section 32-5A-33, pedestrians facing a steady circular red signal alone shall not enter the roadway.


OOPS! Thanks for the info!
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Originally posted by pooh's dad:
Why do they waste money in the Shoals area putting in left turn lanes?? Most of the people ignore them. Another example of wasted lanes is on Woodward Ave. The entire length is a right turn lane and people use it to pass and cut in and out of traffic. People can get hurt trying to stay out of the way.


Only becomes a turn lane at the red lights. Granted it's true design I'm sure was for the purpose of cars that are turning to use to get off the road, but it isn't designated so anyone can use it as an extra lane. They mainly do so because of the other people in the other two lanes that are busy playing Car-tris with each other.
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Originally posted by unclegus:
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Originally posted by TheMeInTeam:
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#4-Putting your turning signal on when a car in front of you is turning even if you have no intention of doing so.


There's actually a point to this one. If you're on a two-lane highway where the center line is dashed so passing is allowed, and the car in front of you is slowing down to make a left turn, putting on your left blinker as well will let the car behind you know that you're not just a slow driver and he shouldn't pull into the left lane to pass you. That's the only situation where it makes any sense to do this, and I don't think it's such a bad idea.


If I am not mistaken, I believe it is law that you have your turn signal on if the vehicle in front of you has intentions of turning. What upsets me is when I am behind a car slowing down and stopping in the road without notifying me the one in front of them has their left turn signal on.

#4 complaint from Katgirl shows we all have our own ignorant understanding of the law!


During my second adventure in Defensive Driving Class Big Grin, someone asked the instructor that very question. The instructor said you are not suppose to signal if you are not the one turning. He's a retired Hoover cop, so I guess he'd know.

I've never signaled for the person in front of me. I think it's mainly done here in the South, anyway, because my MIL thinks it's strange when she visits and sees someone putting on a signal that's not actually turning.
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Originally posted by pooh's dad:
Why do they waste money in the Shoals area putting in left turn lanes?? Most of the people ignore them. Another example of wasted lanes is on Woodward Ave. The entire length is a right turn lane and people use it to pass and cut in and out of traffic. People can get hurt trying to stay out of the way.


I always drive in the right lane on Woodward Avenue unless it becomes a turn lane on the one or two red lights where that happens. I always wondered why not many drove in that lane and thought it was just because everyone here thinks that you should drive in the LEFT lane and that lane is just too far RIGHT.
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Originally posted by onepatriot7:
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Originally posted by lawguy07:
. Where's a cop when you need one? Smiler


at krispy kreme, silly, i thought everyone knew that. Razzer

well except for my friend Sassy, he's usually hidden behind ricatoni's in the alley checking out the local forum post Wink just kiddin Sassy, i know you're at KK with the rest of the boys


Everybody's got to be somewhere. If you'll go to KK and wait , you won't have to worry about seeing me. Wink
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Originally posted by Northwest24:
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Originally posted by earthmomma:
N#24, make us a list of all the other things that bother you about the Shoals! I am still bothered about the guy who ran a light and broadsided me in Huntsville several years ago. His insurance company is still bothered over the punitive damages. He ran a light at high speed because the "sun was in his eyes" My quick reaction time and ability to back-up very fast saved my life!
A lot of things bother me about this place. I was condemned to hell because I said their should be alcohol in some areas. I mean, when will life ever catch up down here? Honestly


You could always move.
99% of the problems on this post could be solved by everyone just slowing down a bit. If you're in that big of a hurry you should have left earlier. One of my biggest kicks is being passed by a speedster heading to the next red light. He flies up to the red light and slams on his brakes. I'm coasting 200 yards back and time the light to blow past him when the light turns green. He rockets out of the hole and passes me again to repeat the same scenario at the next red light.
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Originally posted by ferrellj:
99% of the problems on this post could be solved by everyone just slowing down a bit. If you're in that big of a hurry you should have left earlier. One of my biggest kicks is being passed by a speedster heading to the next red light. He flies up to the red light and slams on his brakes. I'm coasting 200 yards back and time the light to blow past him when the light turns green. He rockets out of the hole and passes me again to repeat the same scenario at the next red light.


First to the line wins? Big Grin
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Originally posted by ferrellj:
99% of the problems on this post could be solved by everyone just slowing down a bit. If you're in that big of a hurry you should have left earlier. One of my biggest kicks is being passed by a speedster heading to the next red light. He flies up to the red light and slams on his brakes. I'm coasting 200 yards back and time the light to blow past him when the light turns green. He rockets out of the hole and passes me again to repeat the same scenario at the next red light.


Two in a row, everybody knows
At the green light you rev it on the red line
Been waitin' all week to get my wheels on the street
Get my hands on the wheel, slide down in the seat

She's wearin' new colors and runnin' pretty good
I got four hundred horses tucked under the hood
But there's no need to panic, it's under control
We're aerodynamic and ready to roll
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Originally posted by electraglide:
you will be old one day. whats the big hurry? take life a little more relaxed and you will be just as well off. i have a problem with young folks on cell phones texting. that is usually why i hve to wait. but thats life i guess.
I have better things to do with my time than sit behind a car when they can go. Thats just stupid to me. You people here may not see anything wrong with that, but I do.
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Originally posted by earthmomma:
I do not know where you moved from, but there is obviously a shortage of spelling books! Maybe you could study spelling while you are waiting for the person in front of you to "Hurry, hurry"! Is it possible for you to return to the former paradise from which you came? Your homonym/hoophone blunders are deplorable.
You sound rediculous!! Find something else to do!!
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Originally posted by kimberleehel:
What??? U can turn left on green. When there is a green arrow, you have the right of way. When it is solid green, you have to yield to oncoming traffic before you can go. Maybe you were trying to turn left onto the one way street on Court?
Believe me I know how to drive. If you miss a light you have to wait the whole round again..
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Originally posted by Northwest24:
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Originally posted by earthmomma:
I do not know where you moved from, but there is obviously a shortage of spelling books! Maybe you could study spelling while you are waiting for the person in front of you to "Hurry, hurry"! Is it possible for you to return to the former paradise from which you came? Your homonym/hoophone blunders are deplorable.
You sound rediculous!! Find something else to do!!


The word is "ridiculous". Roll Eyes
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Originally posted by Sassy Kims:
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Originally posted by Northwest24:
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Originally posted by earthmomma:
I do not know where you moved from, but there is obviously a shortage of spelling books! Maybe you could study spelling while you are waiting for the person in front of you to "Hurry, hurry"! Is it possible for you to return to the former paradise from which you came? Your homonym/hoophone blunders are deplorable.
You sound rediculous!! Find something else to do!!


The word is "ridiculous". Roll Eyes


Big Grin
BTW, I left the "m" out of homophone. i thought I had gone back and edited it for correct spelling the day I posted it. NW24, there are two homophone errors in your first post - and maybe more in later ones. Go back and see if you can find them! Thanks to all who know a misspelled word when they see it! LOL----good schools in Alabama!
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Originally posted by earthmomma:
BTW, I left the "m" out of homophone. i thought I had gone back and edited it for correct spelling the day I posted it. NW24, there are two homophone errors in your first post - and maybe more in later ones. Go back and see if you can find them! Thanks to all who know a misspelled word when they see it! LOL----good schools in Alabama!
Dude.. Ever think a person makes a typing error when typing too fast?? Childish immature comments!!
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Originally posted by Sassy Kims:
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Originally posted by ferrellj:
99% of the problems on this post could be solved by everyone just slowing down a bit. If you're in that big of a hurry you should have left earlier. One of my biggest kicks is being passed by a speedster heading to the next red light. He flies up to the red light and slams on his brakes. I'm coasting 200 yards back and time the light to blow past him when the light turns green. He rockets out of the hole and passes me again to repeat the same scenario at the next red light.


Two in a row, everybody knows
At the green light you rev it on the red line
Been waitin' all week to get my wheels on the street
Get my hands on the wheel, slide down in the seat

She's wearin' new colors and runnin' pretty good
I got four hundred horses tucked under the hood
But there's no need to panic, it's under control
We're aerodynamic and ready to roll
Not that im in a hurry, but I find it very stupid to sit behind someone waiting for them to go when no cars are coming. It gets all over me!! I mean... its dumb!!! Happens all the time!! Does it not register to people down here. I can't believe you don't see anything wrong with that. But you all have the same mentality down here. Everything must go sloooow for people to catch up.
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Originally posted by canade:
I thought you could turn left on green (even if the left turn signal is off or red) if there is no traffic coming. Ooops, my bad.
Thats probably why we can't turn left in most places here. People just don't get it!! Have a light catch you at these unsynchronized lights. You'll see what I mean. The first two lights in Florence coming off the bridge for example... Its all over the place..
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Originally posted by earthmomma:
BTW, I left the "m" out of homophone. i thought I had gone back and edited it for correct spelling the day I posted it. NW24, there are two homophone errors in your first post - and maybe more in later ones. Go back and see if you can find them! Thanks to all who know a misspelled word when they see it! LOL----good schools in Alabama!
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!! YOU SOUND LIKE A 10 YR OLD. GOOD SCHOOLS IN ALABAMA??? PEOPLE CAN'T EVEN SPEAK PROPER ENGLISH MOST OF THE TIME HERE.. HOW MUCH YOU LIKE!!!???... HAHAHA.. GOSH I LOOVE DEBATING WITH ALABAMIANS.. THE WAY YALL THANK DOWN HEEEERE MAKES ME LAUGH!! I STILL LOVE YALL.
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Originally posted by CageTheElephant:
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Sez Northwest24:
Happens all the time!! Does it not register to people down here. I can't believe you don't see anything wrong with that. But you all have the same mentality down here. Everything must go sloooow for people to catch up.
Goin to college.. Ya know everything is cheaper here!!

I'm curious...why are you still "down here"? Roll Eyes
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Originally posted by Northwest24:
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Originally posted by earthmomma:
BTW, I left the "m" out of homophone. i thought I had gone back and edited it for correct spelling the day I posted it. NW24, there are two homophone errors in your first post - and maybe more in later ones. Go back and see if you can find them! Thanks to all who know a misspelled word when they see it! LOL----good schools in Alabama!
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!! YOU SOUND LIKE A 10 YR OLD. GOOD SCHOOLS IN ALABAMA??? PEOPLE CAN'T EVEN SPEAK PROPER ENGLISH MOST OF THE TIME HERE.. HOW MUCH YOU LIKE!!!???... HAHAHA.. GOSH I LOOVE DEBATING WITH ALABAMIANS.. THE WAY YALL THANK DOWN HEEEERE MAKES ME LAUGH!! I STILL LOVE YALL.


Calm down.......I'm sure your blood pressure is through the roof. U shouldn't get so riled up, your health is more important than getting upset for having to wait an extra minute or two while in traffic. I'm going to be really pissed if you stroke out while driving and wreck and injure one of us "Alabamians".
nw24: You have not at this time identified the most obvious homophone/homonym error you made. We are waiting for you to own up to it. The head of bacterial research for CDC is a product of Sheffield high School. I taught a student who is now Chief Financial Advisor and vice-president of Ameriprise. What do you plan to do when you grow up? I can also furnish you with a long list of Pulitzer Prize winners in literature from AL. WHY DON'T YOU JUST GO BACK HOME? Your degree from an AL school will not count for much any way according to you. And for all you old time Forum Friends: DO NOT SEND A DOLLAR TO DEEPFAT --SEND IT TO northwest 24 to apply toward his ticket home. BTW, I have a BS from Indiana University and a doctorate from UA. and am well qualified to judge educational institutions. What is your educational status? Your GPA in high school and at this point in college might be of interest. I have never "YELLED" during my four years on the Forum - until today.
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