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OK, so let's take every Democrat in office, and currently running, and bring their children in the mix, examining every detail of thier personal lives, and see if we can dig up some dirt? Would that satisfy you STOI? What is it that you cannot see to understand is that we are not electing her children, we are voting for her. I remember Amy Carter's troubles, and GW's doughters and if not mistaken I think at one point and time there were some dirt on Chelsea. People who thrive or delight in the downfall of other people's children really don't have a clue about what it takes to make the world a better place.
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Ok. If you havent seen them yet, there are many pictures, aquired from Myspace and Facebook of Palins 16 yr old daughter with bottles of liquor and holding guns. They are NOT photoshopped.

My question is does this bother you? Do you condone underage drinking and do you think Palin knows of this? If not, why not. Why does she not know what is on her daughters website? Just state your opinion please. Do not get off into Obama, McCain yada yada yada


yeah it bothers me, bothers that you are out there trolling around on a 16 year old girls myspace page. somebody's gonna end up on dateline explaining yourself to chris hanson.
So every parent who does not know what is on their child's MySpace, or has kid who may have taken a drink is low class? I have kids, and goodness knows I cannot keep up with everything they do, and I only have two. This woman has 5 kids, and has been pregnant nine months out of the last 18. Somewhere along the way I am willing to give her a pass. The majority of the hypocritical rhetoric coming from some of the people I have heard, has to do with her "holding guns" and "dressed like white trash"...I really have to alugh at that....I see people dressed worse than that at Walmart. To me this shows she is one of the common people. I bet if she knew that photo was going to be circulated to the wrold, she would never have posed for it, huh? You got any poictures like that you are ashamed of? I do, one in particular taken when I was a teenager with a pair of orange shoes. I look back at it now wondering what was I thinking.....LOL
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Originally posted by doobiebrother88:
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Originally posted by STOI:
Ok. If you havent seen them yet, there are many pictures, aquired from Myspace and Facebook of Palins 16 yr old daughter with bottles of liquor and holding guns. They are NOT photoshopped.

My question is does this bother you? Do you condone underage drinking and do you think Palin knows of this? If not, why not. Why does she not know what is on her daughters website? Just state your opinion please. Do not get off into Obama, McCain yada yada yada


yeah it bothers me, bothers that you are out there trolling around on a 16 year old girls myspace page. somebody's gonna end up on dateline explaining yourself to chris hanson.


LOL. Your not so bright are you? I was sent a link goober. I wasnt looking for them. It is on the news, the talk shows and CNN. Yall are funny................. Big Grin

Trace back the linkages and I am sure you can find that came right out of the Obama campm the same camp telling the media that Palin's family is off-limits. What a bunch of whining hypocrites.
Let's forget about the kids...what about the actual persons running for office...
Let's see, McCain suffered 6 yrs of torture for his country. Obama admitted doing drugs,etc...Bill Clinton smoked pot, and let's not forget his shinanigans in the OVAL OFFICE and elsewhere. Oh yeah, let's not forget Ted Kennedy's Chappaquedick(sp)incident...and the other two Kennedy's affairs. At least Bush has been faithful to his wife (if not, the media would have been all over it)
So, if you want to dig up dirt..stick to the actual person's life, not their children's.
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Originally posted by STOI:
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Originally posted by doobiebrother88:
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Originally posted by STOI:
Ok. If you havent seen them yet, there are many pictures, aquired from Myspace and Facebook of Palins 16 yr old daughter with bottles of liquor and holding guns. They are NOT photoshopped.

My question is does this bother you? Do you condone underage drinking and do you think Palin knows of this? If not, why not. Why does she not know what is on her daughters website? Just state your opinion please. Do not get off into Obama, McCain yada yada yada


yeah it bothers me, bothers that you are out there trolling around on a 16 year old girls myspace page. somebody's gonna end up on dateline explaining yourself to chris hanson.


LOL. Your not so bright are you? I was sent a link goober. I wasnt looking for them. It is on the news, the talk shows and CNN. Yall are funny................. Big Grin


you didnt provide us with a link so i thought you found it when you were googling "drunk girls with guns".
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Originally posted by STOI:
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Originally posted by doobiebrother88:
attacking her children is pretty low class so i guess you know of which you speak.


Let me say this slowwwww. What did I say that attacked her children? If I am reading correctly I actually TOOK UP for her child. I think the mom is too busy to keep up with what is going on with her if you want my honest opinion. And no I have some bathing suit pictures that I am NOT ashamed of, but I certainly was not in a American flag bathing suit holding guns. What is the obsession with her family and guns and why would 16 and 17 yr olds have access to three guns to take pictures with? Are they registered to them? Because there are also pictures of the kids holding an arsenal..............


LMAO if you think the pic of her in an American Flag bikini is real. It is a photoshop special.
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Originally posted by STOI:
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Originally posted by doobiebrother88:
attacking her children is pretty low class so i guess you know of which you speak.


Let me say this slowwwww. What did I say that attacked her children? If I am reading correctly I actually TOOK UP for her child. I think the mom is too busy to keep up with what is going on with her if you want my honest opinion. And no I have some bathing suit pictures that I am NOT ashamed of, but I certainly was not in a American flag bathing suit holding guns. What is the obsession with her family and guns and why would 16 and 17 yr olds have access to three guns to take pictures with? Are they registered to them? Because there are also pictures of the kids holding an arsenal..............


If you would do a little work and look around on the net ,you'll see that the swimsuit pic was a photoshop Roll Eyes

And whats wrong with 16 and 17 yr olds learning how to hunt ?
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Originally posted by doobiebrother88:
you didnt provide us with a link so i thought you found it when you were googling "drunk girls with guns".


Smoke you another doobie and leave the politics to the big boys and girls. Wink I understand how other fellow rednecks dont have a problem with this.........fire it up!!!!!!!!!! Big Grin


big boys and girls can disagree without calling each other names so i am guessing your not more than 16.if you look at the other posts you ain't got much support, but i guess we are all low class rednecks who cling to guns and religion.
Okay, all of you curious folks, here is a link to the alcoholic frolics of Bristol Palin:
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If Ma Palin wants to encourage a more wholesome way of life for the younger Palin siblings, they maybe she should reconsider obligating so much of her waking time to politics. Note also that Pa Palin is an often away-from-home blue collar oil industry worker and commercial fisherman who probably has relatively little time for parental duties.

Family values? Is this the kind of family value system the right wing so often advances as an American ideal??!!
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Originally posted by Rowdymale:
Why don't we talk about Obama's islamic ties. What about Obama and his wife's militant hate attitude that is well documented?


Just go ahead and put up something about those alleged "islamic ties" and if it is no better than the tripe on this subject that is so abundant on the right-wing blogosphere, I will respond to it and show what a load of garbage it is! It is time to stop these assersions of Islamic ties and the like, since they have long been demonstrated conclusively to be LIES!
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If Ma Palin wants to encourage a more wholesome way of life for the younger Palin siblings, they maybe she should reconsider obligating so much of her waking time to politics. Note also that Pa Palin is an often away-from-home blue collar oil industry worker and commercial fisherman who probably has relatively little time for parental duties.

Family values? Is this the kind of family value system the right wing so often advances as an American ideal??!!


Good post, I can see your point. But on the flip side, aren't most "big" political figures' children "Nannied"? It would be very interesting to see it across the board just how many are. I don't have children myself but I imagine, just from seeing my ex girlfriend, how hard it is to keep up with one daughter. She caught her drinking at 15 and she's a stay at home Mom! Believe me if she is as evil as some on here are trying to make me believe I WANT to know! But this I can't hold against her. My parents were very fine upstanding "Church of Christ" parents. They punished me when I was bad, Asked and did follow up calls where I was supposed to be. My Mom was a stay at home Mom and I STILL was a Teen.Yeah sneaked and drank beer when I was 16. We just didn't have 20 friends with Digi cameras and Phones to take our pics. I think this has probably been a common occurrence for ages. Wouldn't you agree?
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Originally posted by beternU:
Okay, all of you curious folks, here is a link to the alcoholic frolics of Bristol Palin:
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If Ma Palin wants to encourage a more wholesome way of life for the younger Palin siblings, they maybe she should reconsider obligating so much of her waking time to politics. Note also that Pa Palin is an often away-from-home blue collar oil industry worker and commercial fisherman who probably has relatively little time for parental duties.

Family values? Is this the kind of family value system the right wing so often advances as an American ideal??!!


You are right. What is this woman thinking trying to be successful outside of the home?! She needs to be reminded what her role as a woman is. Barefoot 'n pregnant ain't that right?
We don't see any mudslinging on how Obama's wife is doing the "volunteer" thing but getting a salary of 275,000.00. And I am sure if we had pics of Ol' Obama Smoking the Doobie like he did, we could post them too. Parents try to have control over their kids but they can't be with them 24/7. And I thought Obama said no children in the campaign. But I knew he would do the opposite of what he says anyway. We can expect that.
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My feelings are hurt...........i think i might cry

What about not being to stupid to use google?

Usually people post a link, as a courtesy, to solidify the facts of there post. I'll wait and speak with BeternU well because he's BeternU! LOL If I want to argue with a 12 year old I'll go visit my Nephew. Productive debate is one thing but just being "cute" is another.
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Originally posted by STOI:
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Originally posted by tnt5862:
And whats wrong with 16 and 17 yr olds learning how to hunt ?


yeah, thats what they were doing .......hunting. Smiler I will tell you this. If Obama's kids were found on their myspace laid back drinking, chillin, pregnant, holding firearms........you would all be throwing a fit! Saying Obama didnt share your family values.If you say you wouldnt - your lying. I feel sorry for her kids.


Why dont you stop calling eveyone a liar and a pot head and stop bragging about your 6 figures and go check on your kids ,,I bet you that they will drink that beer before they turn 17 and you will never know a thing about it !!!! Roll Eyes
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Originally posted by teyates:
Yeah, I know lots of "parents" who knew right "what their kids were doing" up until the time their delivered the baby or they had to bail them out of jail for public intoxication. Anyone who thinks they know everything about their children is misinformed. I know ...I have two teenagers myself.


Thank you and Amen Wink
I see most of you are quite unfamiliar with the Alaskan lifestyle. Guns and hunting are very much a part of it including relatively young people -- it is still very much frontier country. No comments on Abe Lincoln and his hunting when 9 or 10?

STOI, you're becoming a classist, sad downturn in liberal theology, for certain.
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Originally posted by Lenic:
That is not Bristol Palin. It is her boyfriend's sister.


You beat me to it!!

I did google it myself, and got a lot of hollywood gossip sites. When I went to CNN and did a search within CNN for Bristol Palin drinking, it came up no match.

It seems to me that if this were in fact true, CNN, FOX or someone of that caliber would have it on their website. Of course, I don't claim to be an internet expert, and perhaps I didn't do the search properly.
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Originally posted by STOI:
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Originally posted by doobiebrother88:
attacking her children is pretty low class so i guess you know of which you speak.


Let me say this slowwwww. What did I say that attacked her children? If I am reading correctly I actually TOOK UP for her child. I think the mom is too busy to keep up with what is going on with her if you want my honest opinion. And no I have some bathing suit pictures that I am NOT ashamed of, but I certainly was not in a American flag bathing suit holding guns. What is the obsession with her family and guns and why would 16 and 17 yr olds have access to three guns to take pictures with? Are they registered to them? Because there are also pictures of the kids holding an arsenal..............


The picture of Mrs. Palin in an American flag swimsuit was photoshopped - not a real picture according to Snopes.com.

As for the other pictures you refer to, I am unable to view those here at work, so I will have to check those out and comment on those later.
From hollywoodgrind.com

"Update: Some readers from Alaska say the girl that is drinking is Sadie Johnston, aka Mercede, Levi’s sister, and not Bristol. As is stated at the start of the article, the pictures were “alleged” to be of Bristol. We have found more pictures that prove the pictures are not of Bristol, but in fact are of Sadie as the readers said. We are happy the truth was revealed by people in Alaska who care about the Palin family as we do. The only picture of Bristol is in picture number 7, where she is on the right, and wearing an Arizona sweatshirt. Thank you to the readers in the great state of Alaska."

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That is the link to a picture of the girls standing side by side. They look nothing alike.
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Originally posted by STOI:
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Originally posted by Howard Roark:
I see most of you are quite unfamiliar with the Alaskan lifestyle. Guns and hunting are very much a part of it including relatively young people -- it is still very much frontier country. No comments on Abe Lincoln and his hunting when 9 or 10?

STOI, you're becoming a classist, sad downturn in liberal theology, for certain.


Your statement on classism is unfounded. You do not know me.

However, the photos are not of her hunting. She is posing with a rifle and a pistol. Maybe this is acceptable in Alaska.


AND YOU DONT KNOW US ,TO BE SAYING WE ARE LYING OR SMOKING DOPE . Razzer

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