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Two years ago, America’s white nationalist movement stunned the country. Neo-**** demonstrations in Charlottesville, Virginia, had turned deadly when a far-right protester drove a car through a crowd, killing one and injuring dozens. Some movement leaders regrouped. Instead of stoking outrage, they set out to build support with another tack: Looking normal.

The larger goal was what many white nationalists call “Phase 2” — gaining mainstream acceptance for far-right ideas widely rejected as repugnant and getting white nationalists into positions of influence. The normalization effort included softened rhetoric and social gatherings that, for many groups, would increasingly replace confrontational rallies. ...

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white nationalist is a made up term to condemn white people that believe in their country.  The purpose is to umbrella all whites under Supremist.  It is a hate term by the left.   

Both incidents are done by individual crazies.  Neither should be used to label others.   Anyone can bring up thousands of incidents where individual minorities did something evil and pert neer everyone will say you can't blame the group.

1130 posted:

white nationalist is a made up term to condemn white people that believe in their country.  The purpose is to umbrella all whites under Supremist.  It is a hate term by the left.   

Both incidents are done by individual crazies.  Neither should be used to label others.   Anyone can bring up thousands of incidents where individual minorities did something evil and pert neer everyone will say you can't blame the group.

You can't help but be an apologist for racists.  White Supremacists label themselves as White Nationalists, so it is not a term made up by the left.  White Nationalists are racists.  They want a nation that is white, Caucasian, Anglo-Saxon, Aryan, to the exclusion or subjugation of all others.

That being said, you can steep yourself in nationalism.  You can have pride in being an citizen of the United States.  You can be proud to be white.  Those in themselves don't make you a racists. 

1130 posted:

white nationalist is a made up term to condemn white people that believe in their country.  The purpose is to umbrella all whites under Supremist.  It is a hate term by the left.   

Both incidents are done by individual crazies.  Neither should be used to label others.   Anyone can bring up thousands of incidents where individual minorities did something evil and pert neer everyone will say you can't blame the group.

white nationalists call themselves white nationalists...

Naio posted:
Jack Hammer posted:

What's the difference with a white racist and any other color racist,??

Not a dam thing. 

only one group has a system designed to prop up said group.  

Not all white people are racist.  Not all people of color are racist. But, it would be easier for white nationalist/racists in positions of power, to rig the system, to oppress people of color, women, and whomever else.

Jack Hammer posted:
 Black people in positions of power have rigged the system in their favor
against people of color for years now. 
 
You of all colors should know that even if you were thirteen. Or would
you rather not know such things 

didn't know i was a rainbow... #AllLivesMatter

Jack Hammer posted:

You talk like you haven't keep up since like 1944. You also sound racist.

Years ago, poor and working class white men went to war so the oligarchs of the time could own slaves. The lesson: don't carry water for the oligarchs.

Image result for pinocchio there are no strings on me

Jack Hammer posted:

Shouldn't you be more worried of a plutocracy ?

 

Think it's time I explained the Tower of Babel to you.  It has nothing to do with multiculturalism or diversity.  It's about when the plutocrats, oligarchs, and dictators around the world decided to make themselves "gods". white nationalists, order followers, and people itching for a civil war are the biggest pawns.  They'll be the reason guns are taken away.  trump supporters come in second.  In regards to immigration, I've heard some say they'll "support martial law until we have time to figure it out."  Without realizing how dumb it is to willingly give up your rights.

So you "freedom loving patriots" should watch yourselves.  Probably should primary trump and vote for Bill Weld or someone else.  Because if democracy falls in America, that's check mate for us and the rest of the world.

Few days ago, it was ice snatching up latino citizens just trying to live their lives.  Few years from now, it could be white, black, latino, asian and native citizens being snatched up while peacefully protesting for the rights we use to have.

First they came for the immigrants, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a immigrant.

Then they came for the trade unions, and I did not speak out— Because I was not in a trade union.

Then they came for the Liberals, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Liberal.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Naio posted:
Jack Hammer posted:

Shouldn't you be more worried of a plutocracy ?

 

Think it's time I explained the Tower of Babel to you.  It has nothing to do with multiculturalism or diversity.  It's about when the plutocrats, oligarchs, and dictators around the world decided to make themselves "gods". white nationalists, order followers, and people itching for a civil war are the biggest pawns.  They'll be the reason guns are taken away.  trump supporters come in second.  In regards to immigration, I've heard some say they'll "support martial law until we have time to figure it out."  Without realizing how dumb it is to willingly give up your rights.

So you "freedom loving patriots" should watch yourselves.  Probably should primary trump and vote for Bill Weld or someone else.  Because if democracy falls in America, that's check mate for us and the rest of the world.

Few days ago, it was ice snatching up latino citizens just trying to live their lives.  Few years from now, it could be white, black, latino, asian and native citizens being snatched up while peacefully protesting for the rights we use to have.

You don't know Babel from your but and you have no idea how bad the
shot we just missed could've been. You're blinded by your hate, yes,
it's that obvious.
Jack Hammer posted:
Naio posted:
Jack Hammer posted:

Shouldn't you be more worried of a plutocracy ?

 

Think it's time I explained the Tower of Babel to you.  It has nothing to do with multiculturalism or diversity.  It's about when the plutocrats, oligarchs, and dictators around the world decided to make themselves "gods". white nationalists, order followers, and people itching for a civil war are the biggest pawns.  They'll be the reason guns are taken away.  trump supporters come in second.  In regards to immigration, I've heard some say they'll "support martial law until we have time to figure it out."  Without realizing how dumb it is to willingly give up your rights.

So you "freedom loving patriots" should watch yourselves.  Probably should primary trump and vote for Bill Weld or someone else.  Because if democracy falls in America, that's check mate for us and the rest of the world.

Few days ago, it was ice snatching up latino citizens just trying to live their lives.  Few years from now, it could be white, black, latino, asian and native citizens being snatched up while peacefully protesting for the rights we use to have.

You don't know Babel from your but and you have no idea how bad the
shot we just missed could've been. You're blinded by your hate, yes,
it's that obvious.

Explain.

That's how democracy works... You watch my back, I watch yours.  The left watches the right and vice versa. You'll get it eventually...

Naio posted:
Jack Hammer posted:
Naio posted:
Jack Hammer posted:

Shouldn't you be more worried of a plutocracy ?

 

Think it's time I explained the Tower of Babel to you.  It has nothing to do with multiculturalism or diversity.  It's about when the plutocrats, oligarchs, and dictators around the world decided to make themselves "gods". white nationalists, order followers, and people itching for a civil war are the biggest pawns.  They'll be the reason guns are taken away.  trump supporters come in second.  In regards to immigration, I've heard some say they'll "support martial law until we have time to figure it out."  Without realizing how dumb it is to willingly give up your rights.

So you "freedom loving patriots" should watch yourselves.  Probably should primary trump and vote for Bill Weld or someone else.  Because if democracy falls in America, that's check mate for us and the rest of the world.

Few days ago, it was ice snatching up latino citizens just trying to live their lives.  Few years from now, it could be white, black, latino, asian and native citizens being snatched up while peacefully protesting for the rights we use to have.

You don't know Babel from your but and you have no idea how bad theshot we just missed could've been. You're blinded by your hate, yes,it's that obvious.

Explain.

That's how democracy works... You watch my back, I watch yours.  The left watches the right and vice versa. You'll get it eventually...

----

You'll never get it, you haven't yet and you'll never be the smart lib
you constantly beg people to believe. You ain't

"One would think that a party that calls themselves the ‘Democrats’ would be able to handle democracy. You would hope that when, inevitably in a democratic society, a vote, an election, did not go their way, adults would act like adults. Yet such is not the case with the new left. When, following President Trump’s election, supposed adults gathered to literally scream at the sky, yes, the sky, that, however juvenile an action, would be the end of it. You could make sure they are not a school bus driver, then simply laugh at them. But this is the new left. A new left armed with Anitfa, antagonizing politicians, and an apologist and leftist media. This is the new left. Violent, weak, juvenile, cowards."....P.Curry

comment from Mallard Fillmore  Aug 12

Jack Hammer posted:
Naio posted:
Jack Hammer posted:
Naio posted:
Jack Hammer posted:

Shouldn't you be more worried of a plutocracy ?

 

Think it's time I explained the Tower of Babel to you.  It has nothing to do with multiculturalism or diversity.  It's about when the plutocrats, oligarchs, and dictators around the world decided to make themselves "gods". white nationalists, order followers, and people itching for a civil war are the biggest pawns.  They'll be the reason guns are taken away.  trump supporters come in second.  In regards to immigration, I've heard some say they'll "support martial law until we have time to figure it out."  Without realizing how dumb it is to willingly give up your rights.

So you "freedom loving patriots" should watch yourselves.  Probably should primary trump and vote for Bill Weld or someone else.  Because if democracy falls in America, that's check mate for us and the rest of the world.

Few days ago, it was ice snatching up latino citizens just trying to live their lives.  Few years from now, it could be white, black, latino, asian and native citizens being snatched up while peacefully protesting for the rights we use to have.

You don't know Babel from your but and you have no idea how bad theshot we just missed could've been. You're blinded by your hate, yes,it's that obvious.

Explain.

That's how democracy works... You watch my back, I watch yours.  The left watches the right and vice versa. You'll get it eventually...

----

You'll never get it, you haven't yet and you'll never be the smart lib
you constantly beg people to believe. You ain't

"One would think that a party that calls themselves the ‘Democrats’ would be able to handle democracy. You would hope that when, inevitably in a democratic society, a vote, an election, did not go their way, adults would act like adults. Yet such is not the case with the new left. When, following President Trump’s election, supposed adults gathered to literally scream at the sky, yes, the sky, that, however juvenile an action, would be the end of it. You could make sure they are not a school bus driver, then simply laugh at them. But this is the new left. A new left armed with Anitfa, antagonizing politicians, and an apologist and leftist media. This is the new left. Violent, weak, juvenile, cowards."....P.Curry

comment from Mallard Fillmore  Aug 12

How easily they ignore the 'birther movement'. Republicans literally gathered together to whine about an elected POTUS birth certificate. Please, tell me more about how a  political party couldn't accept the 'election of a POTUS'.

haha on the 'birther"  that was a few people,,, the movement now is by the 80% of media,, 90% or democrats.   After they all proclaimed the would except the out come of the elections and yelled Trump wouldn't.   All democrats do is obstruct Trump,   yell impeach,,, Oh yes and call us names.   

oh yes boot illegals,,, close crooked unions,,, at least since they are tax exempt like churches they shouldn't be involved in politics (buying votes).   On liberals  I don't care for them however have to live with their name calling

1130 posted:

haha on the 'birther"  that was a few people,,, the movement now is by the 80% of media,, 90% or democrats.   After they all proclaimed the would except the out come of the elections and yelled Trump wouldn't.   All democrats do is obstruct Trump,   yell impeach,,, Oh yes and call us names.   

oh yes boot illegals,,, close crooked unions,,, at least since they are tax exempt like churches they shouldn't be involved in politics (buying votes).   On liberals  I don't care for them however have to live with their name calling

You mean that birther movement that's still spread by the current occupant of the Whitehouse?

or this....

Mitch McConnell summed up his plan to National Journal: “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”

or this....

John Boehner, on Obama's agenda as POTUS,  “We're going to do everything — and I mean everything we can do — to kill it, stop it, slow it down, whatever we can.”

Republicans sure do have a short memory when it comes to Republicans and their agenda. Karma is a BEAST.

come on Crank,,, if you are going to rebuttal at least be sane,

yes at one time Trump questioned Obama's birth place,  I am sure you remember the birth certificate miraculously showed up some time in his time in White house.  Have to question why took so long?  

McConnell said keep him to one term.   NOT impeach, Russia, impeach, Russia, Collusion, impeach, Collusion ,  racist ,, and you quote one,,, democrats have media, representatives, senators, crazies like you all trying to dream up reason why to impeach which just comes down to you lost.

Boehner,,, where is he now?  didn't like him or McConnell anyway.   At least republicans have been weeding out lifers.. (many to go)

the big difference for you is  republicans were on issues,,, democrats are on a hate wave cuz they lost

1130 posted:

come on Crank,,, if you are going to rebuttal at least be sane,

yes at one time Trump questioned Obama's birth place,  I am sure you remember the birth certificate miraculously showed up some time in his time in White house.  Have to question why took so long?  

McConnell said keep him to one term.   NOT impeach, Russia, impeach, Russia, Collusion, impeach, Collusion ,  racist ,, and you quote one,,, democrats have media, representatives, senators, crazies like you all trying to dream up reason why to impeach which just comes down to you lost.

Boehner,,, where is he now?  didn't like him or McConnell anyway.   At least republicans have been weeding out lifers.. (many to go)

the big difference for you is  republicans were on issues,,, democrats are on a hate wave cuz they lost

You should stop watching so much Conservative Media and join the real world. Republicans vowed to stop Obama at every turn. Not thinking Democrats would reciprocate speaks volumes to the intelligence of Republicans. Boehner and McConnell were the voice of Republicans, in their time. McConnell is coming to the end of his political career, too.  Conservatives lack the ability to see their own hypocrisy.

Jack Hammer posted:
Naio posted:
Jack Hammer posted:
Naio posted:
Jack Hammer posted:

Shouldn't you be more worried of a plutocracy ?

 

Think it's time I explained the Tower of Babel to you.  It has nothing to do with multiculturalism or diversity.  It's about when the plutocrats, oligarchs, and dictators around the world decided to make themselves "gods". white nationalists, order followers, and people itching for a civil war are the biggest pawns.  They'll be the reason guns are taken away.  trump supporters come in second.  In regards to immigration, I've heard some say they'll "support martial law until we have time to figure it out."  Without realizing how dumb it is to willingly give up your rights.

So you "freedom loving patriots" should watch yourselves.  Probably should primary trump and vote for Bill Weld or someone else.  Because if democracy falls in America, that's check mate for us and the rest of the world.

Few days ago, it was ice snatching up latino citizens just trying to live their lives.  Few years from now, it could be white, black, latino, asian and native citizens being snatched up while peacefully protesting for the rights we use to have.

You don't know Babel from your but and you have no idea how bad theshot we just missed could've been. You're blinded by your hate, yes,it's that obvious.

Explain.

That's how democracy works... You watch my back, I watch yours.  The left watches the right and vice versa. You'll get it eventually...

----

You'll never get it, you haven't yet and you'll never be the smart lib
you constantly beg people to believe. You ain't

"One would think that a party that calls themselves the ‘Democrats’ would be able to handle democracy. You would hope that when, inevitably in a democratic society, a vote, an election, did not go their way, adults would act like adults. Yet such is not the case with the new left. When, following President Trump’s election, supposed adults gathered to literally scream at the sky, yes, the sky, that, however juvenile an action, would be the end of it. You could make sure they are not a school bus driver, then simply laugh at them. But this is the new left. A new left armed with Anitfa, antagonizing politicians, and an apologist and leftist media. This is the new left. Violent, weak, juvenile, cowards."....P.Curry

comment from Mallard Fillmore  Aug 12

tea party...

1130 posted:

come on Crank,,, if you are going to rebuttal at least be sane,

yes at one time Trump questioned Obama's birth place,  I am sure you remember the birth certificate miraculously showed up some time in his time in White house.  Have to question why took so long?  

McConnell said keep him to one term.   NOT impeach, Russia, impeach, Russia, Collusion, impeach, Collusion ,  racist ,, and you quote one,,, democrats have media, representatives, senators, crazies like you all trying to dream up reason why to impeach which just comes down to you lost.

Boehner,,, where is he now?  didn't like him or McConnell anyway.   At least republicans have been weeding out lifers.. (many to go)

the big difference for you is  republicans were on issues,,, democrats are on a hate wave cuz they lost

So why wont mcconnell allow a vote on election security?

Roy Moore refused to debate Doug Jones

Kay Ivey refused to debate Walt Maddox

In Georgia, Brian Kemp ran for governor while overseeing the election...

Stop the games. Politics isn't a sport. The republican party has to do a lot more to prove they care about democracy.

 I don't care about your kind of democracy, I favor only eligible voters.
Democrats are the cheatingest of all on earth, you make Russia proud.
Speaking of Russia the Dims own the dossier, DNC money and deep state
all the way. 
 
More has been done for America since 2017 going back thirty years.
Dims can't handle a clean democracy but they will cheat.
Jack Hammer posted:
1130 posted:

so why are democrats against voter ID?

Because it's harder for the Dims to cheat, same with the census,
they want to do it illegally to benefit their cult 

Gerrymandering, purging voter rolls, requiring ID and closing locations to get ID... All Republican ways of cheating and suppressing the voters. If Republicans didn't cheat, they'd never win an election.

1130 posted:

crank,,, you really didn't say why.   don't you think everyone can get an ID?  maybe you are the racist thinking that they are capable.  stop making excuses ,,, 

You are aware that the State of Alabama  had to reopen some ID locations after it was proven they were closed for political reasons, right?

 Maybe you're racist for not seeing the truth. Stop making excuses. I've told you three times, now.

1130 posted:

crank,,, you really didn't say why.   don't you think everyone can get an ID?  maybe you are the racist thinking that they are capable.  stop making excuses ,,, 

I wonder if the Black Panthers had ID's while standing at the door with
clubs and guns so they could choose voters as racist as they.?
Never stop making excuses libs, always be true to yourself.
Jack Hammer posted:
1130 posted:

crank,,, you really didn't say why.   don't you think everyone can get an ID?  maybe you are the racist thinking that they are capable.  stop making excuses ,,, 

I wonder if the Black Panthers had ID's while standing at the door with
clubs and guns so they could choose voters as racist as they.?
Never stop making excuses libs, always be true to yourself.

You're against people being armed for protection? I thought Democrats were the ones that were against guns.

Jack Hammer posted:
1130 posted:

crank,,, you really didn't say why.   don't you think everyone can get an ID?  maybe you are the racist thinking that they are capable.  stop making excuses ,,, 

I wonder if the Black Panthers had ID's while standing at the door with
clubs and guns so they could choose voters as racist as they.?
Never stop making excuses libs, always be true to yourself.

How many years ago was that? All of two guys, maybe. In one polling location. In the entire US.  But yes, lets ignore the gop gerrymandering, restricting early voting, closing locations where people could get voter id's, purging people from voter rolls, the florida gop placing a poll tax on felons who's voting rights were restored by popular vote....

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