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Originally posted by O No!:
http://www.reuters.com/article...dUSTRE67L15520100824


http://www.politifact.com/trut...ay-detention-center/

"Obama really wants to close the center. But Congress really doesn't.

The latest turn of events was the law authorizing defense spending for 2011. In addition to funding the military for the year, members of Congress attached several stipulations about Guantanamo. The law says no funds canbe used to transfer Guantanamo detainees to the United States, and no funds can be used to transfer detainees to the custody of foreign countries, unless specific conditions are met about how the prisoners will be held.

Obama didn't like those provisions and issued a statement deploring them. He said the limitation on transferring prisoners to the U.S. is "a dangerous and unprecedented challenge to critical executive branch authority ... ." Of the new requirements on transferring prisoners to foreign governments, Obama said it could "hinder the conduct of delicate negotiations with foreign countries and therefore the effort to conclude detainee transfers in accord with our national security."

Obama stopped short of saying he would disregard the law, something presidents sometimes do via "signing statements." President George W. Bush issued many signing statements as president that said he would disregard parts of laws passed by Congress that he believed infringed on his executive authority. During the campaign, Obama said he would not "abuse" signing statements."

Notice how this says Bush "disregarded parts of laws passed by Congress" many times.



http://www.boston.com/news/nat...uts_for_top_earners/

You know he TRIED to end tax cuts for the wealthy, but was blocked by Congress.


http://politifact.com/truth-o-...un-more-debt-bush-d/

"Axelrod argues that Obama also inherited Bush tax cuts and Medicare prescription drug expenses, which add about $200 billion a year to annual deficits (Axelrod called them "unwelcome gifts that keep on giving"). Riedl argues that kind of complaint may be valid in a president's first year, but by a president's second year, he needs to take ownership of programs he has inherited. If, for example, Obama thinks the prescription drug benefits in Medicare are unaffordable, he should try to repeal them, Riedl said. If he thinks the Bush tax cuts were wrong, try to roll them back."

Once again, he DID try. So the blame goes not to Obama, but to Congress.


so rhetoric trumps action? That cuts for the Rs and the Ds. Barry had democratic majority in the House and Senate for the first 2 years of his term. He must really be making some f'ed up decisions if he can't even get the libs to back him up. Wink

Bottom line is, Barry has done nothing better than W. Ya'll just like that he is a lib and that he reads teleprompter speeches better than Bush. Policy wise, very little to nothing has changed besides the unconstitutional forcing of Obamacare on the people of the United States.
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Originally posted by O No!:
she proves how little sh knows about government, about foreign policy, about national security, and well, about everything.

I think someone had it right the other day - she's a lot like Paris Hilton...but not as intelligent.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s...=2011-02-05-19-17-58


Maybe you can answer some of the questions she asked. Or better yet, what part of the article did you have problem with?
Peter, I have seen how you go around and around with these "debates" over on the religion forum. I'm not going to play. If you can't see the HUGE difference between the two, it is because you would rather argue than deal with reality. So you go right ahead and think they are the same. I and the rest of America know better.
What questions did she ask, Ferril? She was complaining that Obama isn't telling the American people who will take over from Mubarak. First of all, how is ANYONE able to know? And second of all, why do the American people need to know? I mean, even if Obama had secret intelligence that might give him an idea of what might happen, isn't it better to keep that information quiet until he KNOWS? Do you think he should GUESS, and possibly cause even MORE turmoil?
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Originally posted by O No!:
Peter, I have seen how you go around and around with these "debates" over on the religion forum. I'm not going to play. If you can't see the HUGE difference between the two, it is because you would rather argue than deal with reality. So you go right ahead and think they are the same. I and the rest of America know better.


I don't think the two men are the same, I'm simply trying to figure out why when Bush is prez during the time a socialist based policy is passed, you hate it. But when an almost identical policy is passed(or an extention of W's) by King Barry, you love it. I don't like it from either, but you like it from Barry and not W... Why is that?
Oh yeah, another I forgot to mention was same sex marriage. I'm pretty sure Barry said almost the exact same thing as W on that one too didn't he?
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:

So are you denying that what Barry has done is basically the exact same as what Bush was doing?? It's almost the same EXACT policies except for the train wreck that is Obamacare. Why are those policies okay when Barry is running them, but when Bush is, they're bad? When, as I said... SAME EXACT POLICIES. lol

I dislike the policies by BOTH... but you like em when Barry is doin them but not when Bush was. Same policies.... different guys... one's an R one's a D.... hmmmmm. Wink



Peter, you are ranting so much you don't even remember what you said yesterday. I'm not going to argue with you because you are going around in circles. OK? I'm done.
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[QUOTE] OK? I'm done.


If only that were true.


If intelligent debate bothers you, little boy, just put me on ignore. Roll Eyes



And miss out on your Church Lady routine, are you crazy? Wait, you don't need to answer that.

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