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Stolen from the the interweb:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJbriOpDDAQ

A small parasitic grub attaches itself to a specific kind of spider living in the trees of the rain forest. The spider lives on normally catching it's prey and oblivious to the larva feeding from its back.
During the last two weeks of the spider's life, the grub injects a hormone into the spider that causes the spider to lose its tiny little mind. Instead of a organized normal web, the spider begins to weave a seemingly haphazard web. Once the spider completes this new kind of web, the grub sucks the remaining fluids from the body of the spider.

The spiders lifeless hull is then discarded.

The grub then uses the spider's tangled web to weave it's own cocoon where it metamorphizes into a wasp that will carry on the cycle using the body of some other innocent spider.

What a wonderful example of "intelligent" design!
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GF, do ya feel the tugging on that fishing line? my curiousity leads me to these questions, so i'll bite:

1) how did the grub and that 'specific kind of spider' know to live in the rain forest?

2) how did the grub know which kind of 'specific spider' he should go after?

3) how did the grub know that the spiders' back was the best place to feed?

4) how did the spider learn to spin a web?

5) how does the grub know when to 'inject a hormone' into the spider, and how did he learn to do that? where did the hormone come from?

6) where did the spider get a mind?

7) how did the grub know when the spider had woven enough web?

8) what happens as a grub metamorphasizes into a wasp, and where did such knowledge and ability come from?

thanks GF.
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1) how did the grub and that 'specific kind of spider' know to live in the rain forest?

2) how did the grub know which kind of 'specific spider' he should go after?

3) how did the grub know that the spiders' back was the best place to feed?

4) how did the spider learn to spin a web?

5) how does the grub know when to 'inject a hormone' into the spider, and how did he learn to do that? where did the hormone come from?

6) where did the spider get a mind?

7) how did the grub know when the spider had woven enough web?

8) what happens as a grub metamorphasizes into a wasp, and where did such knowledge and ability come from?



1) Evolution

2) Evolution

3) Evolution

4) Evolution

5) Evolution

6) Evolution

7) Evolution

8) Evolution.


Those answers are unfulfilling to me, but that's what popular science offers. That's the flaw I find with evolution theory. It's like trying to force the same puzzle piece into every space whether it fits or not.

I know there are going to be those who say I'm wrong or just dumb, I don't care. My brain just refuses to accept such a simple answer for complicated questions.
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Originally posted by DeepFat:
Those are nonsense questions, hip. You once said science is not your thing. Stick with that.

DF


not nonsensical to me.
do you deny sharing your scientific knowledge with those who know much less about it than you?
am i the only one reading this thread?
are you skipping out on another chance to enlighten someone on intelligent design?
so i should never attempt to learn anything else, and just sit where i am till Jesus comes for me?


i enjoy popcorn too, better go for the biggie. Cool

lighten up, and have a little fun today Big Grin

p.s. honestly, i thought they were simple questions for those who have a limited knowledge of science. learning has to start somewhere.
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The chance that all the physical constants (speed of light, strength of nuclear forces, force of gravity, principles of electromagnetism, etc.) would take on the values necessary to result in a stable universe capable of sustaining life is almost infinitesimal. Yet here we are. That points me to an intelligent designer.
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GF, what makes you think my cartoon was anti-ID? It's the best demonstration of it I've seen.


My bad, my bad. Since I've seen the light and have embraced ID, I immediately assumed you were being intellectually brash. You are correct, of course. Your illustration is an excellent example of the beauty of ID.
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Originally posted by zippadeedoodah:
I'll paraphrase a stolen quotation badly, but..."sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic". I can't remember who originally said it, but I'm sure it was better than I remembered.


lol, yeah it could be, however in this case its low tech and/over lots of time.
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Originally posted by _Joy_:
The chance that all the physical constants (speed of light, strength of nuclear forces, force of gravity, principles of electromagnetism, etc.) would take on the values necessary to result in a stable universe capable of sustaining life is almost infinitesimal. Yet here we are. That points me to an intelligent designer.

To be intelligent enough to design all that, wouldn't the "designer" have to be even more complex? How is that more likely?


edit: Oops, didn't realize we were on page 3 and the Q was from page one. I've apparently not evolved far enough to find the last page of the thread. Red Face
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Originally posted by dialectic.:
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Originally posted by _Joy_:
The chance that all the physical constants (speed of light, strength of nuclear forces, force of gravity, principles of electromagnetism, etc.) would take on the values necessary to result in a stable universe capable of sustaining life is almost infinitesimal. Yet here we are. That points me to an intelligent designer.

To be intelligent enough to design all that, wouldn't the "designer" have to be even more complex? How is that more likely?


edit: Oops, didn't realize we were on page 3 and the Q was from page one. I've apparently not evolved far enough to find the last page of the thread. Red Face
And the designer's designer would have to be equally more complex than his design.
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Originally posted by NashBama:
My brain just refuses to accept such a simple answer for complicated questions.


"SIMPLE"? You're joking, right?

Evolution is an incredibly complex subject with any number of sciences involved in its study: molecular biology, zoology, paleontology, physics, you name it. To be considered an "expert" in the field requires about seven years of higher education, MINIMUM, to get a PhD, with rigorous examination at every level. Can you define "allotropic speciation?"

To be an "expert" in creation "science," all you need is a Bible and an imagination. Which is why all of its "experts" claim advanced degrees from diploma mills and Bible colleges. To pass examination at these schools, you MIGHT have to define "Logos," but not much else.
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Originally posted by miamizsun:
This is getting pretty heavy....

Could Jesus/God/Yaweh/Elohim or whatever this cat's name is, just been a superbad, bi-vexecated, highly skilled alien from the G0114 sector? Traveling through or with that whole time-space-warp thingy?

Xenu! It was the Galactic Overlord in his fleet of P-3 Orions!
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Originally posted by dialectic.:
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Originally posted by _Joy_:
The chance that all the physical constants (speed of light, strength of nuclear forces, force of gravity, principles of electromagnetism, etc.) would take on the values necessary to result in a stable universe capable of sustaining life is almost infinitesimal. Yet here we are. That points me to an intelligent designer.

To be intelligent enough to design all that, wouldn't the "designer" have to be even more complex? How is that more likely?


Well, yeah. Very likely.

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