There really might me a Santa Claus after all, RE: Link
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I'll believe it when the bill arrives. Not before.
quote:Originally posted by Sassy Kims:
I'll believe it when the bill arrives. Not before.
That's right. After all, SOME people elected a dude that had promised policies that will make energy bills skyrocket. Just give him time.
I have little to no doubt that this is con job BS.. I also have no doubt that 4 - 6 months from now we will see them give themselves another 40 or 50% increase
When it come to utilities we are completely at these peoples mercy.. and they have none.. They know you have to pay that bill no matter how high they jack it
When it come to utilities we are completely at these peoples mercy.. and they have none.. They know you have to pay that bill no matter how high they jack it
quote:Originally posted by The Cold Hard Truth:
I have little to no doubt that this is con job BS.. I also have no doubt that 4 - 6 months from now we will see them give themselves another 40 or 50% increase
When it come to utilities we are completely at these peoples mercy.. and they have none.. They know you have to pay that bill no matter how high they jack it
''When it come to utilities we are completely at these peoples mercy.''
Have you ever stopped and ask why we are completely at these peoples mercy?
Read some histroy! Republicans don't think there should be any caps or regulations on corporations.
quote:Originally posted by Nobluedog:quote:Originally posted by The Cold Hard Truth:
I have little to no doubt that this is con job BS.. I also have no doubt that 4 - 6 months from now we will see them give themselves another 40 or 50% increase
When it come to utilities we are completely at these peoples mercy.. and they have none.. They know you have to pay that bill no matter how high they jack it
''When it come to utilities we are completely at these peoples mercy.''
Have you ever stopped and ask why we are completely at these peoples mercy?
Read some histroy! Republicans don't think there should be any caps or regulations on corporations.
Actually, we may not be at their mercy much longer if we choose not to be.
In case you have missed it, since we FINALLY fot a Democratic Congress and a Democratic President, we not can get tax credits (taken away by Reagan, and although Clinton tried and tried, the Republicans would not give tax relief to us) for putting up your own power plant of solar arrays, or some other things.
Check it out-- pretty cool. Link
Even a DIY person can benefit:
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I'm still surprised how many people have gas appliances with pilot lights. Pilot lights account for half the gas used in such households. Piezo-electric lighters ignite the gas only when needed.
quote:Originally posted by Howard Roark:
I'm still surprised how many people have gas appliances with pilot lights. Pilot lights account for half the gas used in such households. Piezo-electric lighters ignite the gas only when needed.
I'm still surprised, or amazed that so many people are still living in the 19th century with their lights and use incandescent lights instead of the new CFLs. CFLs use 25% as much electricity to generate the same light output as incandescent, and last for years.
Savings on replacement lights and power to use them.
I saw a sign in Loretto advertising $1.69 a gallon. Is this a good price?
They also shoot us a lot more power than we need.. I have seen the meter in my rack ryder go as high as 152 volts.. ever wonder why you blow so many light bulbs? anything you have of value, computers.. anything, should be running through a power conditioner around here.
also who do you think pays for all that power they shoot into your house that you don't use or need? Our bills are 20% minimum, higher than they should be for this reason.. Think it's an accident?
also who do you think pays for all that power they shoot into your house that you don't use or need? Our bills are 20% minimum, higher than they should be for this reason.. Think it's an accident?
Cold, hard,
Are they shooting rays of thallium or iodine thru the network to hard your precious bodily fluids, as well!
You draw electricity from the system as you use it. Its not forced into your house, unless there is a rare event, which you would know about as your circuit breakers and fuses would trip/blow, or your power strips would cut off.
The system is about 220 volts which is broken down to two 110 outlets, except for some appliances like refrigerators, which use 220 volts.
Are they shooting rays of thallium or iodine thru the network to hard your precious bodily fluids, as well!
You draw electricity from the system as you use it. Its not forced into your house, unless there is a rare event, which you would know about as your circuit breakers and fuses would trip/blow, or your power strips would cut off.
The system is about 220 volts which is broken down to two 110 outlets, except for some appliances like refrigerators, which use 220 volts.
Not according to my rackryder which monitors the flow of electricity into the house 24/7.. my house is NEVER fed less than 126.. usually stays around 132 and spikes as high as 152...
Get a monitoring resource and check it yourself
Get a monitoring resource and check it yourself
Cold hard,
Your Rackrider is a device for ensuring no spikes in the current burnout more delicate electronic devices. Cut off every appliance and electric device in your home, then observe your power meter. Is the wheel still turning? Shouldn't be. Oh yeah! Your rackrider uses power, as well.
Your Rackrider is a device for ensuring no spikes in the current burnout more delicate electronic devices. Cut off every appliance and electric device in your home, then observe your power meter. Is the wheel still turning? Shouldn't be. Oh yeah! Your rackrider uses power, as well.
The rackrider displays the incoming current and conditions it to a consistent 110... everything I own is plugged in to a power conditioner of one type or another... no choice in Sheffield..
Unless your refrigerator is a mini, I suspect its running at 220 volts. I visit Sheffield regularly and never have problems with my laptop. Nor, do my relatives who live there.
Voltage is the energy measurement of electricity. Watts are the measurement of power/energy by which volts are sent. Its the wattage that may destroy electrical devices, not volts.
Voltage is the energy measurement of electricity. Watts are the measurement of power/energy by which volts are sent. Its the wattage that may destroy electrical devices, not volts.
voltage regulators condition power before it gets to your laptop.... here in sheffield everybody knows light bulbs blow all the time...
the Matrox triple head card in my computer got fried, that's when I started conditioning the power... the first thing I noticed was that the computer got a lot quieter as the fan speed on the power supply slowed down significantly.
I'm not making this stuff up
the Matrox triple head card in my computer got fried, that's when I started conditioning the power... the first thing I noticed was that the computer got a lot quieter as the fan speed on the power supply slowed down significantly.
I'm not making this stuff up
quote:Originally posted by Nobluedog:quote:Originally posted by The Cold Hard Truth:
I have little to no doubt that this is con job BS.. I also have no doubt that 4 - 6 months from now we will see them give themselves another 40 or 50% increase
When it come to utilities we are completely at these peoples mercy.. and they have none.. They know you have to pay that bill no matter how high they jack it
''When it come to utilities we are completely at these peoples mercy.''
Have you ever stopped and ask why we are completely at these peoples mercy?
Read some histroy! Republicans don't think there should be any caps or regulations on corporations.
I've tried and tried to read some histroy,but the histroy books I've read have told me nothing about republicans.
quote:Originally posted by interventor1:
Unless your refrigerator is a mini, I suspect its running at 220 volts. I visit Sheffield regularly and never have problems with my laptop. Nor, do my relatives who live there.
Voltage is the energy measurement of electricity. Watts are the measurement of power/energy by which volts are sent. Its the wattage that may destroy electrical devices, not volts.
Not meaning to be picking fly do do out of pepper here, but actually there are a couple of things now right here.
1st, volts is like the pressure on electricity, much like the water pressure in a hose.
Current, measured in amps is the amount of power being used, kinda like the size hose pipe you have at home .
Watts, is the product of the two. Therefore, an appliance using 10 amps at 120 volts is using 120 watts.
If the power company ups the voltage to your house, an appliance will draw less amps and therefore will not increase your electric bill, if they drop the voltage, the appliance will draw more amps, but it will not affect your power bill.
Other things are in play though, low voltage will make something draw more amps, and that can and will cause it to overheat, and shorten the life.
Voltage too high can exceed the rating of the appliance and burn out the wiring.
If you are having voltage readings that vary much from the 115 V or 225 V, you should contact the power company immediately , you could have something bad wrong in your house wiring, or if not, they should fix it at once.
There are some factors that could cause your power to be 110/ 208, or 115/225 depending upon what kind or transformer the power company is using for you a 'Y' transformer, or a "Delta". Either is ok, just that the power sould NOT vary much from time to time.
I must admit, being a poor Democrat, I probably haven't seen the latest and greatest in kitchen ware, but I have never ever seen a standard refrigerator that uses 220V. Most household appliances use 115V except clothes dryers, and electric kitchen stoves. Window A/Cs and larger electric heaters also use 220, and your heat pump.
Mea culpa on the refrigerator, I should have said stove. I've been living in countries that use 220 volts, too long.
Seriously, I have two elderly aunts in Sheffield. When, in Sheffield, I do a number of odd jobs around their homes, which include changing light bulbs. I've not noticed an irregular number of burnt out bulbs.
My entire point is that the power company does pump extra power into anyone's home -- power is drawn, as needed. If cold hard is having problems, it sounds like its within his house.
Seriously, I have two elderly aunts in Sheffield. When, in Sheffield, I do a number of odd jobs around their homes, which include changing light bulbs. I've not noticed an irregular number of burnt out bulbs.
My entire point is that the power company does pump extra power into anyone's home -- power is drawn, as needed. If cold hard is having problems, it sounds like its within his house.
Of course part of the light bulb problem could also be the bulbs themselves. I mean when you can buy like 8 for a buck, how long do you expect them to last? I've bought some cheap ones that blew after a couple of months. I finally switched to the fluorescents.
I've tried to convince the old dears, but they want incandescents. I usually use a stock of Arrow Tech long life bulbs. Don't know if you can buy them anymore.
Regular flourescent tubes have mercury, as well.
Regular flourescent tubes have mercury, as well.
Since I have converted virtually every light bulb in my house and my mother's house to Fluorescent, and as time goes on incandescent bulbs will get more difficult to find, BUT , you used to be able to buy 130 V light bulbs. They wouldn't give you all the lumen s you are paying the power company for, but they last a lot longer. (good for bulbs way up high or something).
Interventor is correct that fluorescent bulbs contain mercury, but newer ones have a much less percentage than the older ones did. In theory, the savings from the amount of coal needed to run either should much more than compensate for the mercury in the bulb should it be broken.
Coal, all coal, has mercury in it and it is put into the atmosphere as it burns. I don't know if it can be successively scrubbed out the flue gases or not.
Hopefully, at some time in the near future , LED's will be the light bulb to replace the CFL,s. They use 95% less power, and should last much longer, and no mercury.
I have tried some of the LED bulbs Walmart is selling, and they have their shortcomings, like, the light almost seems to be a "black" light, and the LED's inside the bulb seem to not last too long. I do believe though, that these things will be solved. In the paper last week it said that Florence is going to switch to LED's for their street lights.
Maybe the upscale bulbs will be better than the cheap ones from Walmart.
Interventor is correct that fluorescent bulbs contain mercury, but newer ones have a much less percentage than the older ones did. In theory, the savings from the amount of coal needed to run either should much more than compensate for the mercury in the bulb should it be broken.
Coal, all coal, has mercury in it and it is put into the atmosphere as it burns. I don't know if it can be successively scrubbed out the flue gases or not.
Hopefully, at some time in the near future , LED's will be the light bulb to replace the CFL,s. They use 95% less power, and should last much longer, and no mercury.
I have tried some of the LED bulbs Walmart is selling, and they have their shortcomings, like, the light almost seems to be a "black" light, and the LED's inside the bulb seem to not last too long. I do believe though, that these things will be solved. In the paper last week it said that Florence is going to switch to LED's for their street lights.
Maybe the upscale bulbs will be better than the cheap ones from Walmart.