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Birther Bill and other birthers on this forum, take note of the material in the link below, and having done so, please henceforth refrain from any embarrassing (to you!) future references to the alleged Kenyan birth certificate for Barack Obama. It is laughable just how phony this claim was. Here are the goods from PolitiFact's "Pants on Fire" files:

http://politifact.com/truth-o-...tificate-kenya-hoax/
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Hi Beter,

That was as useful "as useful as teats on a boar hog." All it told us is that either the Kenyan certificate is fake -- or the one in Australia is fake. Take your pick.

However, the main issue was not addressed at all. And, the winner is: Why will Obama not show his original birth certificate and put all of this speculation to rest?

If I was stopped by a police officer and did not have my driver's license with me -- I would RUSH DOWN the next day to show my license and prove that I am a legitimate driver.

Why will Obama NOT prove that he is or is not an American citizen? There can ONLY be ONE reason for not clearing this up -- HE IS NOT an American citizen. Simple to prove -- if he is truly a native born American.

Beter, thank you for providing this opportunity for us to, once again, prove that the occupant of the White House is a fraud.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by elinterventor01:
There is a simpler explanation. That the Kenyan was not his father. That destroys his story and the millions he made from his books.

Why we have no access to his SAT, grades and thesis is truly questionable. Were his grades bad? Was his thesis in defense of a radical economic theory?

Hi Elinterventor,

Personally, I believe everything about him is a lie. In my opinion, he is one big lie wrapped in a business suit.

Never in our history have we had a president with so much to hide. Why? We all know the answer to that -- he is a puppet being controlled.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Hi Beter,

That was as useful "as useful as teats on a boar hog." All it told us is that either the Kenyan certificate is fake -- or the one in Australia is fake. Take your pick.

However, the main issue was not addressed at all. And, the winner is: Why will Obama not show his original birth certificate and put all of this speculation to rest?

If I was stopped by a police officer and did not have my driver's license with me -- I would RUSH DOWN the next day to show my license and prove that I am a legitimate driver.

Why will Obama NOT prove that he is or is not an American citizen? There can ONLY be ONE reason for not clearing this up -- HE IS NOT an American citizen. Simple to prove -- if he is truly a native born American.

Beter, thank you for providing this opportunity for us to, once again, prove that the occupant of the White House is a fraud.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill


That which I posted, together with your irrational and worthless response to it, prove one thing for sure--that you and others who reject the obvious implications of that "Kenyan birth certificate" are hopelessly deluded wack jobs. That you bring overwhelming biases to this and other matters concerning the President is apparent from your all-subsuming statement in the second of your nitwit posts in this string, to wit (or to half-wit, in your case), "Personally, I believe everything about him is a lie. In my opinion, he is one big lie wrapped in a business suit."

How can you possibly lay claim to any objectivity when you drag along behind yourself such a massive load of preconceived blithering bias? You are one pitifully inept human being Bill, and you demonstrate that just about every time you come on this forum.

It is my sincere wish that you do NOT have a "wonderful, blessed day," but that, rather, you endure one or a string of days of remorse and anguish as you finally come to terms with the reality of your delusion and your collusion in propagating this enormous and thoroughly discredited lie about the President of the United States and the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, the Honorable Barack Hussein Obama!
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Originally posted by beternU:
That which I posted, together with your irrational and worthless response to it, prove one thing for sure--that you and others who reject the obvious implications of that "Kenyan birth certificate" are hopelessly deluded wack jobs. That you bring overwhelming biases to this and other matters concerning the President is apparent from your all-subsuming statement in the second of your nitwit posts in this string, to wit (or to half-wit, in your case), "Personally, I believe everything about him is a lie. In my opinion, he is one big lie wrapped in a business suit."

It is my sincere wish that you do NOT have a "wonderful, blessed day," but that, rather, you endure one or a string of days of remorse and anguish as you finally come to terms with the reality of your delusion and your collusion in propagating this enormous and thoroughly discredited lie about the President of the United States and the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, the Honorable Barack Hussein Obama!

THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF AN EXTREME LIBERAL BOWING TO HIS "TELEPROMPTER GOD"!

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
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Originally posted by beternU:
That which I posted, together with your irrational and worthless response to it, prove one thing for sure--that you and others who reject the obvious implications of that "Kenyan birth certificate" are hopelessly deluded wack jobs. That you bring overwhelming biases to this and other matters concerning the President is apparent from your all-subsuming statement in the second of your nitwit posts in this string, to wit (or to half-wit, in your case), "Personally, I believe everything about him is a lie. In my opinion, he is one big lie wrapped in a business suit."

It is my sincere wish that you do NOT have a "wonderful, blessed day," but that, rather, you endure one or a string of days of remorse and anguish as you finally come to terms with the reality of your delusion and your collusion in propagating this enormous and thoroughly discredited lie about the President of the United States and the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, the Honorable Barack Hussein Obama!

THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF AN EXTREME LIBERAL BOWING TO HIS "TELEPROMPTER GOD"!


I do not know why you italicized the quoted material in my last post and then pasted it as though I had done the italicizing. I suppose such distorters as you, Bill, have no more compunctions about distorting small things as you do in distorting things of great significance.

In any case, feel free (as you obviously do)to keep trotting out those little cutesy but meaningless paste-ins developed by others. When you do that, it shows only (1) that you lack any creative originality and (2) that you have no substanttive response when your sorry butt is pinned to the wall.

Your reputation on this forum continues to geow, Bill. It grows more and more shabby and insubstantial every time you hit your keyboard. Contemporary and compelling evidence confirms the President's birthplace and history will confirm the ignorance and inanity of those like you like YOU, who in the face of overwhelming evidence, reject proven truth in order to keep feeding your silly hates and prejudices!
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Originally posted by themax:
Mr. Bill, You have been on some shaky ground the past few days.

After HoD took you to task on the reasons for HIS belief you still just couldn't say something like, well, I don't see it that way.
Instead you came back with the big "smoke screen"

Bill, when you find yourself in a hole'
QUIT DIGGING

Hi Max,

Yet, all he and VP have said is, "That is what I believe!" And, when asked to provide Scriptural proof of their doctrines -- the best they could do is (1) David copy/pasted 4 pages of Scripture -- with no explanation of how they prove his doctrines.

And, (2) all VP has done is just rant.

So, no, Max, they have not really told us why they believe the false teachings of the Roman Catholic church.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
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Originally posted by themax:
Mr. Bill, You have been on some shaky ground the past few days.

After HoD took you to task on the reasons for HIS belief you still just couldn't say something like, well, I don't see it that way.
Instead you came back with the big "smoke screen"

Bill, when you find yourself in a hole'
QUIT DIGGING

Hi Max,

Yet, all he and VP have said is, "That is what I believe!" And, when asked to provide Scriptural proof of their doctrines -- the best they could do is (1) David copy/pasted 4 pages of Scripture -- with no explanation of how they prove his doctrines.

And, (2) all VP has done is just rant.

So, no, Max, they have not really told us why they believe the false teachings of the Roman Catholic church.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill


yes, bill they did, and no matter how much you pretend otherwise the explanations were in the post....
the explanations WERE the quoted scriptue.

arent' you the ones that declares by scripture alone?

well, he proved it with scripture.. alone.. no interpretation and explanation needed.

although, as a lying bag of pig feces there is no way you can ever understand it.

not only did the verses explain it all, i went back and re explained the explanation, and yet you STILL reject it.

you spin me right round, baby, right round - like a record baby, right round, round, round....

i've seen peple on the news networks that don't spin as much as you do.
not even obama's press secretary is as good at spin controll as you are.

why don't you apply to the white house as the new resident spin doctor? you'd make millions...
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Originally posted by Infomercial:
Bill, do you know where John McCain was born?

Hi Info,

Yes, he was born in Panama when his father, who became a four star Admiral, was stationed there in the United States Navy. His father and grandfather before him -- were CINCPAC -- Commander of all U.S. Military Forces in the Pacific -- both four star Admirals. His grandfather during WW2 and his father during the Vietnam War.

And, he can and will show a Birth Certificate!

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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the diff is that he was born on a us military base.. IE US soil... ergo, american by birth.
a submarine base, i believe..

tho.. to be honest, i used to think he was born on a american military base in germany.

not sure why, must have just been something i read someplace.

as to my thought on the obama/kenya/birth certificate thing...

.. i don't much care.

lets say tomorrow he admitted he was not a natural american..

so what? we can't undo the last few years... and while it might technically undo anything he signed into office... the democrat congress would spent the next week after the announcement redoing it all so the new president, joe biden, could re sign it into law.

in other words.. in the long run.. there would be a month of utter confusion.. and then nothing would be any different.

so why bother?

not why bother in the legal sense...sure.. he'd have broken the law.. but in the practical everyday it won't make any friggin difference sense Smiler
From Wiki:

John McCain (born 1936), who ran for the Republican party nomination in 2000 and was the Republican nominee in 2008, was born of two U.S. citizen parents at the Colón Hospital in Colón, Republic of Panama.

Look under Natural Born Citizen and you can see others like George Romney and Lowell Weiker who ran were not born in US. Technically neither was Barry Goldwater.
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Originally posted by Infomercial:
Bill, you surprise me. Most folks think he was born in the Canal Zone, which he wasn't. So if he was born in Panama, what's the difference than someone with an American parent born in Kenya, if he was?

Hi Info,

Nagel is right. His father was stationed in the U.S. Navy in Panama. So, he was born in a U.S. Naval hospital -- of American parents. And, I am quite sure he can produce a birth certificate.

Obama, on the other hand was born, somewhere, of a mother who was an American citizen and a father who was a Kenyan citizen. He has no legitimate birth certificate -- or, if he has, for some mysterious reason -- even with all the uproar it has and is causing -- he will not produce it. When it would be so easy to just show it and kill this whole issue.

His step-father also was not an American citizen, but was an Indonesian.

Obama has a very spotted, mysterious background -- and his scholarship application lists him as not being an American citizen.

One day, maybe not for years -- but, I am sure that one day all of this will rise to the surface. And, Americans will see the actual proof and realize that we have been duped and that he is fraudulently in the White House.

Until 2012 we are stuck with him. But, 2012 is our YEAR OF LIBERATION!

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by Infomercial:
Snopes says it could go either way:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/mccain/citizen.asp

Hi Info,

For years, I have gone to Snopes.Com. But, during the last presidential campaign -- this couple proved themselves to be dyed-in-the-wool Obama people -- to the point they lost all objectivity in regards to any issue involving Obama.

So, for other things, I will look as Snopes. But, for anything that includes Obama in any way -- I totally disregard Snopes.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by Infomercial:
Snopes says it could go either way:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/mccain/citizen.asp

Hi Info,

For years, I have gone to Snopes.Com. But, during the last presidential campaign -- this couple proved themselves to be dyed-in-the-wool Obama people -- to the point they lost all objectivity in regards to any issue involving Obama.

So, for other things, I will look as Snopes. But, for anything that includes Obama in any way -- I totally disregard Snopes.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill


Birther Bill--your conclusion regarding Snopes probably derives from the fact that there was so much posted there that disproved the viral misinformation circulating concerning Obama. The reason so much of that bogus stuff was being circulated is that there are so many ingnorami like you who will believe and act on just about anything that feeds their biases. The unprincipled right wingers who generate all that garbage know that they can prey upon small minds like yours and gain political support by flooding the internet with lies, lies, and more and more ****ed lies. Your performance on the birth certificate issue confirms that their nefarious strategy works. Mencken described people just like you when he referred to "The virulence of the national appetite for bogus revelation." You, Birther Bill, have become the pliant tool of liars who have played you and other sheeple like a fiddle!
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Originally posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
It's no secret that Snopes is liberal in its opinions and conclusions. I've known this long before I ever heard of your hero, Barry.


If you or Bill or anyone else disagrees with what Snopes publishes, then you need to SHOW how they have misrepresented the truth. As to Obama's place and time of birth, neither Bill nor anyone else on these forums or elsewhere has been able (or ever will be able) to explain away the announcements of Obama's birth on August 4, 1961, as they appeared in two Honolulu newspapers (Adverser and Star-Bulletin), hard copies of which remain to this day in the "morgues" of those papers. Neither you nor Bill nor anyone else on these forums has even attempted to refute that hard-core evidence, even when called to their attention (Bill's silly response was to the effect that those newspaper entries could have been faked, which is beyond absurd and does not qualify as an "attempt"). That alone makes the birthers on here look like what they are--a bunch of ignorant, naive, silly sheeple!

Weak, Hooperbloob, weak...
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Do all you who claim Obama wasn't born a US citizen honestly believe that the republican senators and representatives in Washington, with access to the FBI, CIA and other investigative organizations, couldn't have found that out long before the election and stopped him cold? Or that Bush, the republican president, couldn't have found this out. Or his daddy with all his connections? Ya'll are unbelievable.
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Originally posted by beady-eyed lady:
Do all you who claim Obama wasn't born a US citizen honestly believe that the republican senators and representatives in Washington, with access to the FBI, CIA and other investigative organizations, couldn't have found that out long before the election and stopped him cold? Or that Bush, the republican president, couldn't have found this out. Or his daddy with all his connections? Ya'll are unbelievable.


I am afraid it is not a case of any simple honest belief in this myth that will not die. It is the simplistic emotional adherance to a WISH that the President were ineligible for office, so that he could be removed and a "real" American could replace him. The birthers live in a fantasy world. One can not reason with fantasists who will not let go of their fantasies.
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Originally posted by beternU:
I am afraid it is not a case of any simple honest belief in this myth that will not die. It is the simplistic emotional adherance to a WISH that the President were ineligible for office, so that he could be removed and a "real" American could replace him. The birthers live in a fantasy world. One can not reason with fantasists who will not let go of their fantasies.

Hi Beter,

Just as history has proven a number of presidents, especially Jimmy Carter, to be totally inept; history will prove Obama to be totally dishonest -- and, unfortunately, very socialistic. The latter is the more serious crime against Americans.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by Infomercial:
Bill, you surprise me. Most folks think he was born in the Canal Zone, which he wasn't. So if he was born in Panama, what's the difference than someone with an American parent born in Kenya, if he was?

Hi Info,

Nagel is right. His father was stationed in the U.S. Navy in Panama. So, he was born in a U.S. Naval hospital -- of American parents. And, I am quite sure he can produce a birth certificate.

Obama, on the other hand was born, somewhere, of a mother who was an American citizen and a father who was a Kenyan citizen. He has no legitimate birth certificate -- or, if he has, for some mysterious reason -- even with all the uproar it has and is causing -- he will not produce it. When it would be so easy to just show it and kill this whole issue.

His step-father also was not an American citizen, but was an Indonesian.

Obama has a very spotted, mysterious background -- and his scholarship application lists him as not being an American citizen.

One day, maybe not for years -- but, I am sure that one day all of this will rise to the surface. And, Americans will see the actual proof and realize that we have been duped and that he is fraudulently in the White House.

Until 2012 we are stuck with him. But, 2012 is our YEAR OF LIBERATION!

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Bill, do you never tire of passing on lies and then act like that is the Christian thing to do ?
Obama produced his birth certificate, put it on line, and it has been put up on tv numerous times.
The truth is not in you Bill and whether you like or hate Obama, it dosen't really matter because your lies make you irrivalent and show you up for what you really are.

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