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Originally posted by Southern Patriot:
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In United States v. Curtiss-Wright Export Corp. (1936), however, Justice Sutherland wrote in the majority opinion: "[T]he President alone has the power to speak or listen as a representative of the nation. He makes treaties with the advice and consent of the Senate; but he alone negotiates. Into the field of negotiation the Senate cannot intrude, and Congress itself is powerless to invade it." Sutherland also notes in his opinion the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations report to the Senate of February 15, 1816:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act
I can't believe this citation. You are pointing to a case involving a defense contractor making agreements with a foreign power, and equating that to a Meeting between The Speaker of the US House of representatives and a Foreign President that did not lead to any agreements, and did not involve any binding negotiations.
ARE YOU STUPID, OBSTINATE, OR BRAINWASHED? pardon me if I seem abusive, I don't suffer fools lightly.
What part of "[T]he President alone has the power to
speak or listen as a representative of the nation" didn't you understand? As usual Ed, you have descended to name calling when you are presented with facts you can't refute. This is why debate with you is pointless.
What part of Freedom to associate do you not understand. The Logan Act Cannot apply to CONGRESSMEN. THEY WROTE AND PASSED THE LAW.
Why are you complaining that she met with Assad, and NOT complaining that she met with the Israeli leadership?
YOU ARE MAKING AN ISSUE OF A LEGALITY THAT CANNOT BE AS YOU STATE IT.
If the Logan act prohibited meeting with foreign government leaders NO US COMPANY COULD DO BUSINESS IN KOREA, CHINA, JAPAN, OR SPAIN. In every case cross border business operations REQUIRES the business owner to negotiate with the Government in the Country they are doing business in. China more than most, since the GOVERNMENT OPERATES THE MANDATORY LABOR UNION IN EVERY FACTORY IN THE COUNTRY.
Your interpretation of the Logan act would put every wife of every diplomat representing the USA in federal prison.
As a reporter I personally met with the minister of defense of Japan. I personally met with leaders of the Greek Parliament. I personally met with the Vice President and President of the United States. I personally met with representatives of the Mexican Government. In no case was I acting on behalf of the United States Government, and with the exception of the President and Vice President of the United States I had NO OFFICIAL AUTHORITY TO HAVE THOSE MEETINGS.
Do you think I should be prosecuted for any of those meetings?
Do you think Barbara Walters should be prosecuted for meeting with Fidel Castro?