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Rand Paul's daddy, Ron Paul, the ORIGINAL teapartier, turn on another MAMA GRIZZLY! Big Grin (Actually, he got replaced by the stepdaddy, Dick Armey)
From the USA today BLOG on politics:
Nov 09, 2010
Michele Bachmann loses a Tea Party vote for GOP post

Rand Paul, and his father, Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, are both favorites of the Tea Party movement.

By Ed Reinke, APA libertarian icon who helped inspire the Tea Party movement won't be supporting Rep. Michele Bachmann's bid to be in the House Republican leadership.



Rep. Ron Paul, father of newly elected Kentucky senator Rand Paul, is backing Rep. Jeb Hensarling for chairman of the House Republican Conference, the party's No. 4 leadership post. The senior Paul and Hensarling are both Texans. Bachmann, from Minnesota, founded the Tea Party Caucus in Congress.

"You have a unique opportunity to guide the conference to support concrete legislation that reduces the size and scope of the federal government," Rep. Paul wrote about Hensarling, in a letter that was released by Hensarling's office.



Paul, a liberatarian who once ran for president, has long advocated cutting back on federal spending, slashing the government's debt and lowering taxes -- all key principles of the Tea Party movement.

The veteran lawmaker, who has run for president as a Republican and as a Libertarian, has been a featured speaker at Tea Party functions. His son, Rand, won Kentucky's Senate seat last week with Tea Party support.

Bachmann told USA TODAY on Monday it wasn't important if she didn't win the leadership contest. She said her bid against Hensarling is all about ensuring the "ideas and ideals" of the anti-tax, small-government Tea Party movement are included in the GOP majority.

Bachmann said that win or lose she wants to form a new group in Congress focused on adhering to principles in the Constitution. "It's important that we continue to learn more about the document we pledge to uphold," she said in our interview.
Here is a link from politico:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/...sarling.html?showall
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Bachmann is a dolt. Her solution to the SS and Medicare elimination is to encourage everyone to retire as millionaires.

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"Within seven [years], Medicare is dead, bankrupt, broke -- broke," Bachmann told the Tea Partiers. Her solution? End it for everybody but "the truly needy and the truly disabled." (I shudder to think what constitutes "truly needy" in the Bachmann moral universe.) Her solution? You can buy your own health insurance policy on the private market with pre-tax dollars. Sure, you're 70 years old: How much do you think an insurance company is going to charge you for your coverage? Pre-taxed or not, you're going to need a whole lotta dollars to make that one work for you.

But Bachmann's fans likely found comfort in her sunny optimism. "It is possible for every American to be able to retire a millionaire," Bachmann told the Tea Partiers. "It's entirely possible to do that if you plan early and you put away money -- and there are alternatives that we can put forward." Just what those "alternatives" might be were left to the audience's imagination.
Editorial from the Minneapolis Star Tribune:
Editorial: Bachmann hasn't earned GOP post
However, Paulsen and Kline merit prestigious assignments.

The leadership posts awarded to Minnesota's senior Republican congressional delegation will say much about the GOP's priorities as it takes back control of the U.S. House.

If the party is serious about governing, it will reward two respected Minnesota representatives -- Erik Paulsen and John Kline -- with new positions on two powerful committees. Paulsen, just elected to his second term in the west-metro Third Congressional District, seeks a seat on the influential House Ways and Means Committee. Kline, who has represented the south-suburban Second District since 2002, is in line to chair the House Education and Labor Committee.

In contrast to those choices, putting the polarizing, style-over-substance Rep. Michele Bachmann in any kind of leadership position would send exactly the wrong message and would damage Republicans' credibility. Bachmann, just elected to her third term in the state's north-suburban Sixth District, is running for the GOP's No. 4 leadership position in the U.S. House: the GOP Conference Chair.

Bachmann is a legislative lightweight whose priority has been Fox News appearances -- not authoring substantive bills or helping her hard-pressed district. During her time in the Minnesota state Senate, she was known for her antigay histrionics -- not any actual accomplishments. Bachmann is not qualified to hold the influential post that helped launch the careers of other GOP heavy-hitters, including former President Gerald Ford; former Vice President Dick Cheney, and Jack Kemp, Dick Armey and John Boehner. Indiana Rep. Mike Pence is the current House Conference Chair. Duties include crafting the party's message, acting as its spokesperson and running party meetings.

Although this newspaper disagrees with Paulsen and Kline on a number of issues, both have won this page's endorsement in past elections because they are serious, thoughtful lawmakers who have earned their constituents' trust through hard work. Their congressional colleagues, as well as many industry groups, also hold them in high regard.

Paulsen had an impressive freshman term. His district is home to many medical device companies, and he smartly carved out a niche as an industry expert. He's cochair of the Medical Technology Caucus. He helped cut a tax on the industry by half and mastered the eye-glazingly complex regulatory issues it faces. Paulsen has proven himself ready for the prestigious but detail-oriented position he seeks.

Kline also has deep expertise in education and labor issues. He has long given voice to teachers' and parents' concerns about No Child Left Behind, and he understands that changes are needed. Kline is a collegial colleague, and he's demonstrated good sense when it comes to an extreme idea pushed by some newly elected representatives: abolishing the U.S. Department of Education. Kline told the Washington Post recently that it is "sort of a talking point. There will be those who campaigned on that language. I'm not sure they always know what it means.''

Bachmann has specialized in nothing but campaign flame-throwing and falsehoods, the most recent of which is the ridiculous claim that President Obama spent $200 million a day on his trip to India. Her 40-plus appearances on Fox News since the beginning of the year also raise a logistical question: How would she have time for additional House leadership responsibilities? Her time is spent caucusing with Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck.

Bachmann's own party leaders -- including Pence, House RepublicanWhip Eric Cantor and likely Budget Chairman Paul Ryan of Wisconsin -- are endorsing her opponent for the Conference Chair position -- Rep. Jeb Hensarling of Texas. They know she's not qualified. That Bachmann thinks she is raises further questions about her judgment


WOW Roll Eyesand this is a Minnesota paper! Sounds like they have the crazy one down pretty well. TAINTED TEA ANYONE???????? Big Grin
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Originally posted by beternU:
Wrong, Rocky. Bachmann is definitely NOT a "legislative lightweight."She is a LEGISLATIVE FLYWEIGHT, and to do her justice, there really needs to be another category--LEGISLATIVE FLEAWEIGHT!

THAT WOMAN IS A RAVING, AIR-HEADED NINNY!!!!!


Ma'am,
Why do you feel so threatened by conservative women?
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Originally posted by mad.bum:
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Originally posted by beternU:
Wrong, Rocky. Bachmann is definitely NOT a "legislative lightweight."She is a LEGISLATIVE FLYWEIGHT, and to do her justice, there really needs to be another category--LEGISLATIVE FLEAWEIGHT!

THAT WOMAN IS A RAVING, AIR-HEADED NINNY!!!!!


Ma'am,
Why do you feel so threatened by conservative women?


Not threatened,just saddened that certain (not all) conservative womenwith demonstrably inadequate intelligence or knowledge have been allowed to rise so artificially high in the esteem of their fellow conservatives.

While on the subject of women, may I as why you continue to address me as though I were one, when you know that not to be the case? It is a silliness and a childishness on your part that simply demonstrates how hard you are straining to gain some kind of imagined one-upmanship that you can not attain within the realm of intelligent argumentation, discussion and debate.

It is widely held by many savvy observers that Ms. Bachmann is very insubtantial as a legislator, that she shoots from the hip with a rarely seen degree of impetuosity, that she often commits big fat gaffes, and that she does a miserable job of getting her facts straight (as witness her jumping in with all four feet to propagate the absurd story of the alleged $200,000,000/day cost of the President's Asia trip.

Find some really bright and articulate Republican women to admire; they are out there if you look for them. They might not be terribly attractive or chuckly and bouncy, but they can be found. Don't accept flyweight stand-ins who vastly overestimate their own competence--Ms. Palin being a Hall of Famer in that category..
I would suggest any reader of this post, whom wants to be accurately informed of current events, carefully research previous "information" provided by this poster, and the history of the proven inaccuracy of such posts. I would also point to the manner in which these posts are delivered, which has become "lore". There is no use in attempting to provide the original poster with accurate details.
Thank You.
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Originally posted by CageTheElephant:
I would suggest any reader of this post, whom wants to be accurately informed of current events, carefully research previous "information" provided by this poster, and the history of the proven inaccuracy of such posts. I would also point to the manner in which these posts are delivered, which has become "lore". There is no use in attempting to provide the original poster with accurate details.
Thank You.

Let me also suggest that anyone who actually wants to see unbiased, real opinion from anything other than Fox or one of their "outlets" always ask for PROVENANCE if not provided by any post by CAGE. He is known for his misinformation and ommission of sources used in his posts. There is no need in pointing this out to Cage, he is in a deep state of denial as to his indoctrination.

Thank you.
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Originally posted by CageTheElephant:
I would suggest any reader of this post, whom wants to be accurately informed of current events, carefully research previous "information" provided by this poster, and the history of the proven inaccuracy of such posts. I would also point to the manner in which these posts are delivered, which has become "lore". There is no use in attempting to provide the original poster with accurate details.
Thank You.


It is interesting that you have not offered a single example of that which you allege. If there is so much wrong stuff out there from rocky, then you should be able to ante up a couple of examples instead of assigning forum members to do a research project on their own to verify your unexplicated generic criticism.
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Originally posted by CageTheElephant:
I would suggest any reader of this post, whom wants to be accurately informed of current events, carefully research previous "information" provided by this poster, and the history of the proven inaccuracy of such posts. I would also point to the manner in which these posts are delivered, which has become "lore". There is no use in attempting to provide the original poster with accurate details.
Thank You.


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Sez beternU:
It is interesting that you have not offered a single example of that which you allege. If there is so much wrong stuff out there from rocky, then you should be able to ante up a couple of examples instead of assigning forum members to do a research project on their own to verify your unexplicated generic criticism.


Had you not been in a self induced coma since Nov. 2, and had followed rocky's postings, you would have been able to verify the validity of my claim yourself. I don’t think it would be a understatement to say that rocky’s fascination for drama, without actually researching, is known “lore” on these forums. Actually,the readers and responders needed no prodding from me, but I tried, in my generosity, to steer young rocky in the right direction.

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