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Originally posted by elinterventor01:
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Originally posted by seeweed:
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Originally posted by mad American:
I would much rather pay extra for profit than taxes. Profit is good, taxes bad for the economy. But what I still cannot grasp is the fact that obama and the rest of the America hating left say they want to do what is right, but fail to support a flat tax rate.
I love my country much more than I like the polluting greedy bunch from big oil.
Sorry you feel differently. In fact, I just can't imagine such a stand so I can't discuss it further.
Seaweed,
Your response makes no sense and contains no logic.
Its simply a knee jerk reaction to the problem in the gulf, not what MA posted.
To me the logic is quite clear.
>War is not only hell, but it is very expensive.
>Before we are "taken" into war, especially unnecessary war, there should be a plan on how to pay for it, and we should be told what sacrifice each of us is expected to make. (This could actually make us think before we go to war just because some president wants to if we have to actually pay for it)
>Our parents and grandparents wars required much sacrifice. We should not expect to pass the cost of waging war on to future administrations or generations. They should be paid for by the generation that waged that war. Thinking we do not need to do so, and just "go shopping" is just crazy.
>We have two major problems - the war against the terrorist , aka "The war on terror", and our addiction to oil (BTW, a stated fact of every president since, and including, Nixon) which is getting worse every year. We can punch holes all over this country, but the fact is , that we only have between 3 and 4 percent of the known reserves of oil, and the largest reserves in the world are held by people who don't really like us very much. Add to that the fact that we use about 25% of the world supply of oil, and even the village idiot can see that something is definatly out of sync.
> Our primary enemy is Al Queda, and Ben Laden is funded by oil money.
>We are paying for both sides of this war, and the only thing we CAN do is reduce our USE of oil, thereby reducing our dependence.
> These facts lead me to believe that A> a gas tax would reduce useage, thereby cutting down on the amt of money we "give" to Ben Laden, and B> provide a sacrifice of the American people , and C> Provide (some) funds to fight our own war(s) and not borrow money from China to leave a legacy of debt to our children.
D> 'Hopefully' by taxing gasoline for the above reasons, would keep down the demand side of "demand and supply" equation, and the price of gas , from the oil companies, would not rise so fast.
In other words, I would rather pay that extra dollar a gallon to pay for our wars, thereby taking the responsability ourselves of our actions, than provide billions of dollars for the stockholders (of which I may be one ) profits.
I therefore don't consider what I said as a knee-jerk reaction, but a rather rational approach to addressing these two situations we find ourselves in. (actually three if you count the national debt)
I believe one may have an opinion opposing more taxes, but to prefer that we should pay that extra dollar / gal to the oil companies, rather than to attack the 3 problems hearin stated, is NOT the logical step I can accept.
BTW, although I seriously doubt that my suggestion will ever be considered at a nigh enough level to do any good, I would like to ask what would y'all propose to do to attack these problems ? MOre profits to the oil companies ? Do you really think that is the solution ?