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I don't know if this strikes anyone else as being something to greatly fear but anyone that knows anything about history should be fearful of anyone seeking to federalize a police force and seeks to do away with Citizen's rights to bear arms.  

I'm going by the article because basically I can't stomach listening to Obama speak anymore but I do know that the last line of defense citizens would have is the local and state police and the first thing I thought about when I saw the headline about a federal police was the brown shirts and **** Germany.  I would like to say he wanders into it by mistake but I don't think so, I think he would very much love to be a dictator and have at his command a willing police force that would keep the public and all detectors in control.  

Obama may not be dangerous but his ideas surely are dangerous at least to freedom loving people and I'm afraid Hillary will be just another Obama only worse in that she would establish decades or generational control over the Judicial branch of government.

Be as the Bereans ( Acts 17:11 )

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I know that there are good Democrats and actually some good liberals out there that have the same concerns as many good Republicans and  good Conservatives do.  I don't see the viability of a third party as I just don't think there is enough support and trust to establish one or more to the point overcome entrenched and locked Republican and Democratic voters, so where does that leave us?   Trump has certainly revealed the ugly truth that belies many entrenched establishment Republicans which reveals their true nature and concerns and those are certainly not for average Americans either but are self serving and equally destructive to our nation as the ultra liberal Democrats such as Obama, Hillary, Pelosi and Reid.  They just as eagerly would visit destruction upon the land if they thought it was self serving for their own greedy desires such is the Republican leadership today, for the most part.  They to profit from a rigged system of donors, same as the Democrats only different groups of donors and lobbyist but same objective, to control the party and set it's agendas.

I don't know if our system of Government can survive when you have two major parties so loaded with self serving individuals who are intent on a power grab such that they would sell the Country away if it meant keeping their own established positions of power in what remained.  I believe it's time for new Patriots to start infiltrating the Democratic party again at local levels.  The Democratic party was taken over years ago in much the same way as liberals seized it and Constitutional minded citizens need to began an attempt to retake it back and establish some measure of sanity again within it's ranks, if that is even possible at this juncture. 

I don't want to be or appear to be so jaded that I feel it's over and that both parties are beyond saving but the fact is that the entrenched establishment Republicans are fully content in being a secondary party as long as their own selfish desires and personal, within party, power is kept and the Democrats have became so infiltrated with non-Constitutional minded ultra liberals that are intent on changing the very basis and design of the Nation that given their unquestioned block voting support of minorities, Hispanics, and now illegals as well as gullible established party voters that don't question any candidates morals or qualities, there is almost an impossibility of defeating them or their locked in numbers.  Thus the only way to attempt to save what little that remains of what the founders envisioned is to attempt it from within rather than without and that is a very long process and possibly impossible at this point in the game.  Establishment Republicans such as are opposing Donald Trump today are so ineffective in their elected positions that they only fight or actually present opposition if there is a threat from within their party and never seem to oppose those without.

While they say diversity is strong they do so in theory and not practice it.  Liberals are so entrenched in the Democratic party that they will not share power or decision making ability with any Conservative minded Democrats easily, even if there was such that existed.  Thus the only way to hope to establish any kind of chance at establishing a presence in the "new" Democratic party that would have any voice is by stealth and deceit the same way that liberals hijacked the party over the last several decades.  Only I doubt there is enough time or quality people to be able to accomplish it.    There was a time when Democrats ruled the South but as liberals concurred the party and established their own control over it's agenda then Republican's became to appear as far more reasonable and alike the typical southern voter and certainly more aligned with the Southern voter's priorities and desires to the point that Republicans established a lock on elections in the South same as Democrats had decades ago. 

Unless there are a new generation of politicians willing to challenge the liberal Democratic party from within then it's certainly not going to be possible for conservatives or Republicans to do it from without as entrenched block voters will never allow it.  But that's my own personal opinion(s).   Trump is to the Republican party as the canary was to a mine in that it revealed when danger was reached and was around those present.  The cancer and danger within the party is revealed by Trump's presence and they are evident in their willingness to openly circumvent the desires of the people that voted.  If they are successful then Hillary, regardless of her criminal and utterly corrupt nature, will be President and for many, establishment Republicans, that will be fine with them provided they can keep their own lofty positions within a minority party for ultimately few if any politicians leave Congress or Washington the same or poorer than they were when they were elected. 

The first thing to go would have to be the public's ability to resist their Government by seizing their firearms and/or ammo and then establish a federal police force that could be controlled and maintained as loyal to the Political system entrenched in Washington.  All possible opposition could then be easily controlled or eliminated and squelched and given technology that is so prevalent today any underground opposition or dissent would be easily identified and controlled at which time freedom would only be a concept or worse a past memory and idea in someone's head.  The Constitution would at that point be null and void as an ever powerful executive branch would write laws and establish control by executive orders assured of validity by a rigged and slanted judicial system of Judges which no longer interpret laws and orders against the Constitution but rather rubber stamp a political party decision or agenda.  The question this next election will answer is are we now in a transition period toward that type of new government or can the people actually seize control back and prove that they still have the ability to speak and express their opinion.   

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The Dem's are split between  pseudo-fascists who want to use the crony capitalist system to get rich by selling influence and patronage and true socialists who wish total control of all property and the means of production. I'm not sure there is any wiggle room for someone with a different philosophy between those two groups.

GBRK, this fellow explains the communist infiltration of the Demonratick party:

John Bachtell is national chair of the Communist Party USA. Previously he was Illinois organizer for the party, and is active in labor, peace and justice struggles. He grew up in Ohio and currently lives in Chicago with his family.

JBACHTELL@CPUSA.ORG

http://peoplesworld.org/john-bachtell

A radical third party? I agree!

http://peoplesworld.org/a-radi...third-party-i-agree/

 

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