Feedback: I am putting it here for a reason.

I tend to agree with you. But, I am active on other boards, and this one has developed a character that surprises me. For one thing it is not commercialized. A lot of Boards operated by newspapers, as this one is, include much more advertising, One that I go to fairly often will have two or three ads up as soon as I log in.
Another surprising thing is the ease of getting on this board. It links directly from the web. Some sites require a lot of navigating.
I have not carefully analyzed usage, but this site, especially considering its regional nature, has very heavy use. And a LOT of registered users.
More forums might be good, but I would not add many.
I don't think usage is high enough to justify many more sections, but I would recommend that the forum be divided according to the sections of the Newspaper. News, Sports, Weather, Editorials, Entertainment, Lifestyle, Business and Classified. A classified section could actually be used for paid ads, each one a topic.
For Sale, 92 Pontiac Sunbird, and people could respond the same way they post comments. But the topic would be paid for by the advertiser for a limited time.

If you can get them to charge for posting any new topic, you might be able to get me and pba to show a little restraint.

I just plain don't like your suggestion about Ignore. I would be a perfect way to put a stop to ALL controversy. If you did not like what someone said about your topic. BOOT EM OUT OF THE THREAD. Great way to stiffle dissent.

Why would you want to know if I live in, or have a connection to, the Shoals? Is my opinion less valuable because I don't know you? I actually do have a connection to Alabama, I carry on conversations with people who read the Times Daily. I can't bribe any of them to be my "friends" cause I can't even buy them a cup of coffee. It is sometimes helpful to have an unbiased observer involved. At least I hope that I have had some impact in your discussion of a possible lottery. I know that what I have to say is not always welcome. but I don't think I gratitously insult your community.

well the News does need to be split, have one title Local and just News for national and international .There are not that many regular active posters to justify as many seperate forums as above mentioned.
I think everyone needs to just stop whinning and appreciate the fact TD even bothered to have forums at all.

I think B man has a good idea about some form of organization on this forum, but doubt that there could be a concensus of opinion regarding rules. It has been my personal experience that the more an entity organizes its creation the more unwieldable it becomes, vis a' vis, the US Government to name just one.
One guideline that I would favor however is that one person be allowed only so many "new topics" in a given time frame.

OOPs,I just took B mans' advice and read (laughed out loud) at some of the whining on the feedback area. All the crying about who said what to who and on and on. Please, it is only a forum not a life and death decision.

Hey Brent, those meds have gotten your creative juices flowing!

I say, again, to look at the number of Discussion Topic on the AL.com site. Now, I think that is way too many for us, but it gives a guideline of how the TD site could be broken down.

But, another thought comes to mind. You said you put this thread in News because not enough visit Feedback. If TD gives us what we want and adds more Discussion Topics, we will all continue to gravitate back to the main News area and not take advantage of the more defined posting choices? It HAS worked with the Food discussion, though, hasn’t it?!

I am rambling . . . actually I am putting off yard work . . .

I like Bmans suggestions -- I definitely agree with the need for more organization and separation of the topics. Not everything is news -- Sorry Bman, you being sick was good to know, but it was not News...hhaha.

I don't go to the Sports section much, but it it is all lumped togethr like News--things get lost and bogged down in the other stuff.

I agree there needs to be at least some division between Local, National and World news -- even if they won't give a Politics board--to split up the location of the news would help a lot.

I also agree that people should have to post a true city and state where they live at a minimum. I would take more consideration of the posters that are from Florence when it comes to the topic of the Florence City Council meeting than I would someone (no offense Ed) from AZ. The person that doesn't live here has no real stake in what is going and this can perpetuate problems -- yes it can offer an outside view of the situation and put it in perspective, but if the post is negative about the situation or just a post to be starting something (not directed at you Ed) then I would ignore or just glance through that post and not pay it much attention. Some people do just post to get attention and to feel they are part of something and some do it just to start trouble and I wish that would stop.

I completely agree with the ignore feature. I am not gonna put a random person on ignore--I'm going to put the ones that I feel I can't post and have civilized conversation with or that they will never respect my opinion and will only continue this childish bickering so the ignore feature to me would be good and it should work both ways -- On other boards, myspace and other things of that nature, if I block -- you are blocked and that keeps me from having to request that you stop engaging me numerous times and then requesting to the point of threatening you to turn you into the TD to get you to stop --- it eliminates me reading anything that would push my buttons and make me post something that would get me kicked off this board. Just because we don't agree on politics is no reason to continue the fight on other topics...This board is great in many ways, but I feel like everytime I post something -- regardles of the the topic is or how generic my post is -- certain ones seek me out to continue the arguement or whatever. That is why I publicly stated X you are on my ignore list and I request that you do the same. Once I have requested it -- you should respect that request for peace sake.

If someone is on ignore and chooses to continue to post comments tearing that person down -- yes it has gotten to that level that it is more personal than just a political opinion -- then you are the problem and the person that is trying to turn the other cheek is being forced to fight when they don't want to fight anymore. And when you start making comments like that person is "chicken" or "has no grounds" -- you are being derogatory to them and that is against board policies -- if I choose to ignore you -- I choose to ignore you and I shouldn't to justify that fact. So I do think that if you are on my ignore list--you shouldn't be able to pull me into the fray just because YOU want to -- and if I don't respond you continue and then don't get both sides of the story -- they only get your comments and that can make them have a negative view of me even though I am trying to take the high road and not be in the middle of the chaos. That is an inferred derogatory comment and that causes damage too...

I know I went on on that and I apologize, but if I don't to talk to you or read your response or want you to read mine to avoid problems -- that should be respected and that is MY choice and your desires end where mine begin -- yes the board is public but there are lines that need to be respected.



I have people on my Ignore list for a reason -- I am trying to be polite and respectful and that allows me to do that.

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Originally posted by smurph:
well the News does need to be split, have one title Local and just News for national and international .There are not that many regular active posters to justify as many seperate forums as above mentioned.
I think everyone needs to just stop whinning and appreciate the fact TD even bothered to have forums at all.

I agree, but there are a lot who goes to feedback, and nothing has changed as of yet... it is being worked on though.

But like Edkit said... if someone so chooses to put someone else on IGNORE (hehe) then so be it, it is their choice, and I have no problem with it...

But to want to be in CONTROL to the point of keeping someone YOU dont like to NOT be able to even post on all topics on the boards, is not only selfish, it is unrealistic as to ANY board I have ever been too... UNLESS YOU OWN IT YOURSELF. ... UMMMMM, what was that catch-phrase used at me so much.. hmmmmmmmmm..... oh yeah... DEAL WITH IT!!!!... if you have them on IGNORE you won't see what they say anyway, so why whine???? Why the desire to be such a control freak????? This is just insane!!! Totally INSANE as a "suggestion" to someone ELSE'S forum!!! This is NOT your forum, nor is it mine... It is Times Daily and they have laid out ALL the rules and regulations that you had to "ACCEPT" to be here.. and now you are going to try to strong-arm THEM??? Wow, what levels we have.... I am totally amazed at this tiny forum here being so

I cannot foresee TimesDaily allowing a few people who use the ignore feature (because they cannot take what others are saying, or they do not want to SEE what others are saying) take that much CONTROL over their boards to tell them to keep "WAAAAAA, DON'T LET THEM POST ON MY POST"... If I had to develop a childish attitude on that subject to THAT degree, I would just take my marbles and go play somewhere else...

I have been banged around, slammed around, and insulted to a very high level here... so high in fact that even the Admins of this board noticed it and PM'ed ME!!! Nope, I never once PM'ed THEM to complain, but they PM'ed ME about the threats/insults... THEY DO NOTICE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF OUR BEHAVIORIAL PATTERNS... they are not dummies.

I was grateful that they not only NOTICED, and PAID ATTENTION, but they took the time to actually approach me about it.

No one here runs this forum, no one here makes the rules, except Times Daily. . . and any suggestions we have, I am positive they look at it, ... if they disagree with it, they just disagree with it and we have to accept that as the answer.. it is THEIR forum and we just have TO DEAL WITH IT, lol.

I do think B'man has a few good suggestions, but it has already been suggested several times before... once to a degree that HE prompted, he knows what I mean... but then he didn't appreciate the gesture, and it spiraled down from there...

B'Man, since YOU posted this, then I am going one step further... After showing our LOCAL Guardsman (OFFICER) what has happened on this board on SEVERAL postings, I will tell you that he told me that the reason that YOU put me on ignore was because of what I said about your JAG or CO reading the horrible things you were saying to, not just me, but several people on here... I respected you, I sided with you, I took up for you... but found out that you only USED me and when you got posted what you wanted posted that YOU didnt have to post yourself, you started with the insults, horrible horrible horrible insults... and threats... yep, threats. When I called you on it, you put me on IGNORE... what a childish maneuver for someone who claims to be what you claim to be. I do not say that without validity, I have validity sitting right here next to me in the means of a local Officer in the Guards who has ALSO been to Iraq...

This forum started going downhill when you lit into to EVERYONE who disagreed with your "lily-pure" comments.

Now, as a PUBLIC forum... I sure looks like there are "SOME" here who want to make the rules for everyone because they don't like heat in their kitchen.

NO WAY is TimesDaily going to allow people to DICTATE to them what the rules are and should be... or that if YOU choose the ignore feature that YOU control TOPICS????? Insane... typically a juvenile, childish approach to an on-going problem with realizing that people DIFFER in opinions, and they DIFFER in beliefs... and if you don't like it, then say so.. but dont be a smart-aleck about it.. and dont attack all the time... If you don't like ME, then why even bother talking to me at all? You don't have to, it is your choices.

I was forced, and I DO mean forced because I now have the actualy emails proving my stance on this to start being on the DEFENSIVE to a few people here... And that wasn't a place I LIKED to be at all... and it was because they just didn't have the same 'belief' system as me... I got bombarded in several different arena's by a few here... and the viscious cycle started... and Thank God in Heaven, TD kept up, they KNOW who started it!!! For THAT I am very thankful... They have also noted my postings for a very very long time, and they KNOW .. oh yes, they KNOW what I am, who I am, and how I am.

I have bent over backwards to be nice to some of the people on here, and finally realized that there was NO being nice to them, that was NOT what they wanted, they WANTED the controversy.... So be it.

I have been tacky and ugly myself, but I do NOT like being that way, I have been on this forums for a very long time, well over a year, and it has just been in the last couple of months that I have had resort to the DEFENSIVE mode, simply, and I DO mean SIMPLY because someone thought they were smarter, they were right on everything, they were the ones who knew it all about it all.... I do have a limit to my temper, and my buttons can be pushed just like everyone's can.. but in the last couple of months it seems like there are a few, only a few, who see's me as an easy target and POUNCES with fangs out... just because you can.. ..

I am sick and tired of that attitude... I am sick and tired of being something that I am not... And from this day forward, since this post was posted, I refuse to allow anyone on here to be insulting, condescending, mean, abusive or threatening to me... it is not worth it..

I am not chicken enough to IGNORE anyone, but I sure can pass up on the BAITING and TROLLING going on... BAITERS and TROLLERS are running around here, and so are people with MORE THAN ONE ACCOUNT!!!! There is this one person that I know for a FACT that is also another person... they are good at keeping up to slightly different personna's though... pretty good!!! But not perfect, they just use each account to validate their opinions, and that is sad.... it just is NOT worth it!!!! People should be banned for BAITING, TROLLING and LURING others on the forum.

If TD reads this, they will know EXACTLY what I am talking about, they are the ones who talked to ME about it... so it WAS that obvious...

And please, do NOT reply back to me, UNLESS you read all I have to say... dont pick and choose one or two sentences you dont like, look at the whole message.. the whole story... it is TIME the whole story about a LOT of things come out.

Way to go KS, you tell'em. They're all no good 'cepting you and me, but I'm not totally convinced 'bout you ))

Kindred,
I read your entire post. When I first joined the boards you seemed much more relaxed and mellow. I know that I got to a point a few months ago where it just wore me out to post on these boards, so much so that I had to take a break. Sometimes the banter and the back-and-forth is good, it's a diversion, and it's funny. When it gets to the point that my blood pressure starts to go up or to the point to where I am grumpy when I get up from the computer... then I have to stay away for a while.

I think that overall we have a great bunch of folks on these forums with differing opinions. The internet makes it easy to attack each other and be very ugly when in person, we would be a lot nicer and more respectful. My very best friend is a bleeding heart liberal and <gasp> Hillary Clinton supporter. Do we have discussions about politics? Yes. Do we get ugly and call each other names and try to one-up each other? No.

Lets all try and remember that Themax, Southern Patriot, Brentenman, Smurph, e, Kindred Spirit, NashBama, Stephanie, EdEKit, FatNoMo, Lookn2it, etc are people, not just screen names.

Now - not to hijack the post, I think that a little division would be good, but too much would make for lots of lost threads. If they divide it up, then there needs to be a MY THREADS type of section where you can select different threads you want to keep up with all in one place.

That's my

Well, so much to read and digest it at times overwhelmes me. I have dial up do it takes me forever to try to keep up with every thread and every post. That being said he's my 2 cents.
1- I agree with Brentenman on most of his suggestions. Bobby Irons justs does not deserve to be on the same topic as Pres.G.W.Bush. Like it or not the Neese loans have more of my intrest than whatever Bush has lied about today. It's apples and oranges.
2- Yes,we need a purely local page devoted to local topics, genelogy and the what not.Exp.who founded Lexington Al. Where exactly did Doublehead hide all his gold. That sort of thing.
3- Yes, sports could be split but that may be asking to much.
4- Overall, the T.D. has done a good job considering, it cost each of us nothing to enjoy this service.And I aplaud them for it.

In closing, I know I haven't posted or replyed much to threads in the last couple of months simply because I had no intrest,or at least had no commett that would add anything to the discussion. Lastly, PLEASE, everyone ease up a little on Kindred, she has a plate full of real life besides this forum.

Well, B-man . . . I see they moved you anyway . . .

Yeah...I noticed that earlier, FatNoMo......

kindred what a great post! very enlightening for ALL to see.

I suggest a "Brentenmen" forum so that you can post your latest medical conditions, far-right rants and other idiocies so that those of us who are not interested can just totally ignore that forum!

I STAND TO APLAUD YOU DAVID L,, best suggestion yet!

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Originally posted by David L.:
I suggest a "Brentenmen" forum so that you can post your latest medical conditions, far-right rants and other idiocies so that those of us who are not interested can just totally ignore that forum!

Ha Ha, Way to go David..

Sorry David, I just disagree.

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Originally posted by David L.:
I suggest a "Brentenmen" forum so that you can post your latest medical conditions, far-right rants and other idiocies so that those of us who are not interested can just totally ignore that forum!

Can I get an Amen?

I disagree with E and DAvid L and smurph as well Max -- if I choose to ignore you -- I just click the button, but if you want to put someone down for posting suggestions to make the forum better that is wrong. I don't agree with Bman on all of his suggestions, but at least he's putting them out there -- you don't have attack him for it and make personal -- I have a few on ignore and it makes my day go so much better. But I would never say they should not be allowed to post on a public forum.

To put in place a "mutual ignore" like I suggested -- doesn't keep anyone from posting their thoughts -- it would just keep me from seeing theirs and them from seeing mine--to avoid any conflicts that might would arise or derogatory comments that they (or I if pushed) would when I'm ignoring them.

I think EVERYONE KS< pba, Ed, Brent, Airborne -- everyone is important to this forum as a whole, but if I choose not to "play with certain ones" that is my prerogative. There are a few I have on ignore that I would not announce to the world I have there -- but it helps me to not get caught up in the fray.

However, E, smurph -- I have never said about ANYONE on this forum that they should sequestered just because I disagree with them and I wouldn't relegate them to only specific threads--everyone should be allowed to post their thoughts feelings and opinions....ignore just keeps me (by choice) in the dark about what they say...

someone could say the same for you as well -- or me! what makes you so wonderful that you shouldn't be treated the same way you have treated Bman on this thread?

It's better for me to ignore, but I would not dictate that someone should be "sent to the corner" like so many of you posted about the other site.

You want to control just as much Bman does! ( I have my moments and I am working on it)...

I, personally, think the TD should shut down the forum for a few days and let us ALL see what we are missing and clear our heads and come back with a new perspective. Our beliefs won't have changed, but maybe some of the backbiting, jabs and derogatory comments will subside...

Put your personal BS aside and try to see both sides of this...you took his ideas and have bashed him for it...Put your thoughts out there--your suggestions -- oh wait, you don't have any, you just enjoy beating up on others who do...

that is the exact reason I like the ignore feature --

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Originally posted by smurph:
I STAND TO APLAUD YOU DAVID L,, best suggestion yet!

smurph, you are the very one that tends to comment in some way or other NEGATIVELY to ANYTHING that Bman says -- whether it's about the weather, his health or his political stance--it is obvious you don't like him PERSONALLY. Reading your posts causes me to discount most everything you type because of this and I hate that--you may have an opinon that I need to hear on a subject, but you seem to personally attack him -- you seek him out in a sense -- and that causes me to not respect your thoughts.

Just like with the medical thread -- I will agree, his mainline came across sarcastically, but you didn't even read what he wrote -- except that line -- and then jumped that he was putting down medical people -- NO, there are just a lot of people that have been through medical stuff and they are "know it alls" -- that is not a bad thing and if they could give any insight that could have helped him help his doctors treat him -- that's part of this forum is for.

I'm not trying to pick on you smurph -- you have popped up more than e has or David L. or allysmom has since I have been posting so don't take it personal -- just making an observation.

Yes, I tried to correct you on that forum and it got out of hand quickly -- you are quick to agree with these guys and I'm sure you will be quick to put me down and that is fine--it's not personal to me.

This thread is called Feedback -- not bash Bman -- you can give feedback without completely alienating someone. Even KS is good at giving feedback -- she tends to go into her personal thoughts a lot but she does give feedback that can be responded too.

How is Bman supposed to respond to that ... I would dare to say that if they created a Bman section for him to post -- you would find your way there just to read what he says and attack him for it....people that comment like you have tend to do that -- you enjoy the fight and the negative.

Yes, Bman and I see a lot of things the same way, but remember I was defending PBA a few months ago when everyone tried to shut him up as well....so I'm not taking sides here...I just believe the comments by David L. that you and others made were unnecessary and derogatory -- you could have just "whatever" and I would have gotten your meaning.

Sorry for my rant -- I guess they'll have me a section too Bman --

well stephanie, you have not been on these forums long. there is a history to brentman. one full of THREATS,insults and ,,,,,oh nevermind just gonna watch things,your time is comming with him.
you are not the board police, you are No MORE than the reat of us,, just posters on an internet forum And under the given circumstances YOU have presented, you are no different than he is, you simply attempt to hide behind the Miss Muffet Fix It All shirade. THAT in itself fools no one so get over yourself. You have placed yourself into the very same side of the spectrum you have attempted to place me! i post my thoughts and opnions ,,,not what i think you or anyone else is going to "approve.It isn't a popularity contest,sorry. So long as i stay within the guidlines set forth by Times Daily,, its really none of your concern WHAT I post,,now is it?
my suggestion for the future and to save you from possibility of developing carpal tunnel syndrome from typing your half pages ATTEMPING to police me,,just place me on your ignore list and my postings will no longer be an issue for you!

BTW,, I hope AM the actual MODERATER of these forums sees all this tomorrow. No one said anything crude, attactking, or name calling in this thread. What she will see is one person atttempting to play board poice to a NUMBER of posters

Smurph I have been on it as long as you have -- I have just stayed away from the rants until lately when I have had more free time.

I did my best to tell you and the others that we are ALL important to this forum and it's not fair to single out one person?

However, Thanks for the permission -- I'll do that...

Everybody needs to use his or her best judgment when posting. Even when a post abides by the membership agreement, our fellow posters judge us by what we say and how we respond to posts made by others.

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Originally posted by stephanie:
I, personally, think the TD should shut down the forum for a few days and let us ALL see what we are missing and clear our heads and come back with a new perspective.

Every member of this forum has the power to shut it down by not turning on our computer. That leaves it up for those who want to continue participating.

Hey, I have nothing against Brentenmen, I just thought what David L said was funny and his "opinion".

Dang Bman. You can't even put up a topic in Feedback without it getting hijacked.

well THIS time it was his one person fan club that hijacked it .I made a legitimate suggestion on the first page,even before it was moved to the Feedback forum. Lets see if he makes a big deal of THIS hijacking.

I guess the Moderators are doing their job very well...I thought so.

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Originally posted by David L.:
I suggest a "Brentenmen" forum so that you can post your latest medical conditions, far-right rants and other idiocies so that those of us who are not interested can just totally ignore that forum!

DavidL... what a SMART young man you are... VERY deep statement!!! Thanks!!!

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Originally posted by smurph:
well stephanie, you have not been on these forums long. there is a history to brentman. one full of THREATS,insults and ,,,,,oh nevermind just gonna watch things,your time is comming with him.
you are not the board police, you are No MORE than the reat of us,, just posters on an internet forum And under the given circumstances YOU have presented, you are no different than he is, you simply attempt to hide behind the Miss Muffet Fix It All shirade. THAT in itself fools no one so get over yourself. You have placed yourself into the very same side of the spectrum you have attempted to place me! i post my thoughts and opnions ,,,not what i think you or anyone else is going to "approve.It isn't a popularity contest,sorry. So long as i stay within the guidlines set forth by Times Daily,, its really none of your concern WHAT I post,,now is it?
my suggestion for the future and to save you from possibility of developing carpal tunnel syndrome from typing your half pages ATTEMPING to police me,,just place me on your ignore list and my postings will no longer be an issue for you!

smurph... do you remember stephanie from the OLD forums???? Well over a year ago now... I just remember her from the last couple of months. And smurph, psssst, don't say anything about B'man... she will get ya!!! It is because of B'man she has turned on me... up until then, everything was okay... I am sorry guys, but I am always leary of ANYONE who picks ONE person out on a forum and fights everyone else over that person... if that happens, I just ignore them... I am not chicken so I will not PUT THEM ON IGNORE, I will just ignore what they say...

If it only a two-way street on this post... between stephanie and B'man, then why are we here? LOL!

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Originally posted by BradshawBruin02:
Everybody needs to use his or her best judgment when posting. Even when a post abides by the membership agreement, our fellow posters judge us by what we say and how we respond to posts made by others.

You have ABSOLUTELY no idea HOW TRUE that statement is!!!! NO IDEA at all... thanks for saying it!!!

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Originally posted by smurph:
well THIS time it was his one person fan club that hijacked it .I made a legitimate suggestion on the first page,even before it was moved to the Feedback forum. Lets see if he makes a big deal of THIS hijacking.

smurph... NOTHING goes by you!!! You catch on to EVERYTHING!!!

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Originally posted by e:

quote:

Originally posted by David L.:
I suggest a "Brentenmen" forum so that you can post your latest medical conditions, far-right rants and other idiocies so that those of us who are not interested can just totally ignore that forum!

Can I get an Amen?

e, you have gotten a bunch of AMEN's from me, but here is another... AMEN!!

[smurph... do you remember stephanie from the OLD forums???? Well over a year ago now... I just remember her from the last couple of months. And smurph, psssst, don't say anything about B'man... she will get ya!!! It is because of B'man she has turned on me... up until then, everything was okay... I am sorry guys, but I am always leary of ANYONE who picks ONE person out on a forum and fights everyone else over that person... if that happens, I just ignore them... I am not chicken so I will not PUT THEM ON IGNORE, I will just ignore what they say...

If it only a two-way street on this post... between stephanie and B'man, then why are we here? LOL!]

nope sure do not remember,and i have already looked thru them. There were only a handful of posters on the old forums. Matters not anyway, the reasons are WAY too obvious !

This can get strange, can it not? I apologized to a person whom I did not mean to offend but did and his enimies or whatever climb on me for being disengenuous( my word not theirs). I voiced genuine concern for a person and got assailed for that also. Some here seem to be very shallow and angry. Perhaps I would do well to as Kenny Rodgers says"know when to walk away and know when to fold them".

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Originally posted by rforeverfree:
This can get strange, can it not? I apologized to a person whom I did not mean to offend but did and his enimies or whatever climb on me for being disengenuous( my word not theirs). I voiced genuine concern for a person and got assailed for that also. Some here seem to be very shallow and angry. Perhaps I would do well to as Kenny Rodgers says"know when to walk away and know when to fold them".

Here's one more: it's "disingenuous." If you're gonna claim it, spell it. It's funny how newbies can't type without their thesaurus.

p.s. It's also "enemies" and "Rogers"

pssst one who posts,,,,not a newbie only a new name

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Originally posted by one who posts:

quote:

Originally posted by rforeverfree:
This can get strange, can it not? I apologized to a person whom I did not mean to offend but did and his enimies or whatever climb on me for being disengenuous( my word not theirs). I voiced genuine concern for a person and got assailed for that also. Some here seem to be very shallow and angry. Perhaps I would do well to as Kenny Rodgers says"know when to walk away and know when to fold them".

Here's one more: it's "disingenuous." If you're gonna claim it, spell it. It's funny how newbies can't type without their thesaurus.

p.s. It's also "enemies" and "Rogers"

Did you forget to include the appropriate punctuation mark for your closing corrections? "If you're gonna claim it," punctuate it.