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Why is Bush allowing FEMA representatives to brainwash?


Friday, November 16, 2007
FEMA training video: First terrorists in America were the Founding Fathers
Oklahoma meeting where a FEMA representative tells the local police that the founding fathers were terrorists.


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Why not Ron Paul?
Thursday, November 15, 2007


Does America have a future? Unfortunately we don't have a lot of choices here. You want Rudy Giuliani, who dressed up as a woman and marched in the gay pride parade, and who has been profiteering off 9/11, or you want Hillary, who strongly supported the genocidal sanctions against Iraqi children while she was First Lady? Both of them have promised AIPAC to bomb Iran. Also, Obama is influenced by AIPAC. At this point, there is nothing more important than pulling our troops out of Iraq, Afghanistan, and everywhere. I heard that Cynthia McKinney might run as a Green, but her chances of winning are slim because the Green Party has no money and has very few active volunteers. Ron Paul actually has a fighting chance to stop the wars because he has a strong base of support among the Young Republicans who are very enthusiastic and remarkably sane. He wins every debate because he makes a "self-interest" argument for ending the wars which works with Americans. Even Jay Leno respected him.

Ron Paul is a Constitutionalist and a non-interventionist. Everybody disagrees with him about something. The leftists hate him because he's anti-abortion. But again, we have to put aside our personal opinions and stop the war immediately or lose our democracy. We only have one chance. The only thing that can unite Americans is the Constitution (as flawed a document as it is - but it's better than the lawlessness of Bush). Not a single Jewish organization supports Ron Paul for president.

Ron Paul approaches the Constitution almost like an Islamic jurist. He did not say he didn't think universal health care might be a good idea. He said it's not in the Constitution that the US government has the role of providing health care. If you want to do it, then you have to amend the Constitution. If you allow Congress to do things that the Constitution doesn't allow, then we no longer have a constitutional democracy. They can declare war without an act of Congress, they can cancel your currency value, they can put you in jail without evidence, etc.

I have never come across him saying anything racist. He did say, "I certainly join my colleagues in urging Americans to celebrate the progress this country has made in race relations. However, contrary to the claims of the supporters of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the sponsors of H.Res. 676, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not improve race relations or enhance freedom. Instead, the forced integration dictated by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing individual liberty."

That is certainly true. Boston's bizarre busing system destroyed neighborhoods which had closely knit communities that worked together on a local level to organize social programs like Boy Scouts, now we have a welfare state where you have to enter a lottery to get your kids into a decent school, and they waste a lot of gas busing kids across town when there is a school walking distance from their house. Nobody attends Boy Scouts anymore, and neighborhood crime is rampant. The situation for blacks and whites has worsened since the 1960s because our economy is going down the drain due to our foreign policy. Studies have shown that the more racially mixed a neighborhood is, the less likely it is that the people will be active in community organizing. So that leads to increased dependency on government services. I guess there is idealism on one hand, and the reality on the other hand. In any case, he has a rational argument for his views.

The current drug policy in the United States is completely irrational. The CIA invades a country, forces them to grow drugs, then the CIA brings it into the country and sells it to the police, who then sell it to the drug mafia, and then we spend billions of dollars putting people in jail for non-violent crimes. By decriminalizing drugs, and dismantling the CIA, as Paul proposes, you will have far fewer social problems created by criminal mafias and gangs because something like cocaine would no longer be profitable. And our tax money would no longer pay for these drug wars. That was also the approach in the early days of Islam. Scholars, including Caliph Ali refused to criminalize intoxicating herbs because there was nothing specifically in the Quran outlawing any plant. There was no criminal offense for hashish or opium, and usually they were prescribed by doctors as medicines. Avincenna (I forgot his name in Arabic) talks a lot about the medieval Muslim uses of what we now consider to be "illegal" drugs. The drug wars have cost US taxpayers billions of dollars and have not improved anything. So it's useful to look at how America used to deal with these issues. Did you know that George Washington grew marijuana on the White House lawn? Farmers used to pay their taxes with hemp. The laws changed in the 1940s due to pressure from special interest groups. The herbicide (genocide of plant species) led to great dust storms, the ruination of farmers, and the Great Depression.
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Why is Bush allowing FEMA representatives to brainwash?


Friday, November 16, 2007
FEMA training video: First terrorists in America were the Founding Fathers
Oklahoma meeting where a FEMA representative tells the local police that the founding fathers were terrorists.


In the context of the video, the teacher is correct. The founding fathers and Revolutionary Patriots were traitors to the King of England, and terrorists in their actions towards the English Army and Colonial Government.

No brainwashing here...just history as it happened.
I was taught that Washington and all, were british loyalists -- loyal to the english tradition of representative government and Magna Carta. A tradition broken by the mad Hessian born King George III and his drunken wastrel of a son, the regent.

The American army wore uniforms or identifying emblems such as a c0ckade. Usually engaged only enemy combattants and obeyed the rules of warfare.
Dictionary.com: "2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization."- - By that definition, how were the founding fathers terrorists? They were striving to establish a free sovreign country of their own, one that they were free of the above definition, Terrorism. I guess it depends on how you look at it. Any story has two sides, and each side can argue their point. Why does FEMA, a non-military organization have to reference to our founding fathers being "terrorists"? What does that have to do with the "Federal EMERGENCY Managament Agency" they are not a department of Homeland Security, so what is the justification of FEMA teaching this? Are they trying to justify the acts of the current Administration in Washington? In closing, I just thought it was interesting that FEMA was bringing up founding fathers and terrorism to the police department, what does that have to do with natural disasters? FEMA is not a Police or Military organization, wouldn't the National Guard or one of the other branches of the Military respond to something like that? Or maybe Homeland Security? you know the old guys in the golf carts?
The video is from July 2001. 9/11 had not even happend yet. FEMA was only worried about tropical storms and power outages in July of 2001. Homeland security had not been conceived. There's nothing in the video I can see that identifies the instructor as a FEMA employee.

Somebody's cut and pasted a police training video and tried to masquerade it as a FEMA video.

BTW, have you forgotten the Boston Tea Party? A terrorist attack on British goods.

What about Francis Marion, the Swamp Fox? He fought a guerilla style war (a terroristic tactic) against the British during most of the Revolution.

George Washington used asymmetrical warefare against the British...who were used to battles being planned out in advance, and agreed upon by both combatants. He continually harassed and terrorized them by doing the unthought of, by attacking their flanks, and by allowing his soldiers to kill the British Officers...something no standing army would do at the time.

They seem to fit the bill to me.
Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? If you think that England was so in the "Right" and our Founding Fathers were in the "Wrong", why do you live in this country?



"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter, and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."

~Abraham Lincoln
No, I'm not arguing just for the sake of argument.

The founding fathers were not in the wrong. Nowhere in my posts do you find me saying the Founding Fathers were wrong or England was right. The Founding Fathers had the greatest reason in the world to fight the battles they fought...freedom from oppression of a tyrannical ruler. They risked their all to do what they did, and made sacrifices we can hardly understand today.

But, to the British, the acts our Founding Fathers committed were those of guerillas, thugs and terrorists. They did not fight as Gentlemen, which was what was expected in those days. The took advantage, and refused to stand and fight, and shot from behind trees and hills. The disrupted supply lines, and stole food and clothing.

And with as much complaining as you do about every facet of American life, why do you live here?
We're missing several points. The instructor on the video stated that the founders issued death warrants or assassination orders against british officials. I know of no such orders. Arrest warrants were made and executed against royal colonial governors and officials. But, they were taken prisoner, including Ben Franklin's son.

The Boston Tea Party was considered peaceful protest. None were seriously harmed and no private property, except the tea was destroyed.

Don't mistake tactics for terror. Guerrilla warfare is a tactic. How it is practiced determines whether its terroristic or not.

Truthers used this video to falsely push their agenda and Ron Paul.
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"Did you know that George Washington grew marijuana on the White House lawn? Farmers used to pay their taxes with hemp."
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Construction began when the first cornerstone was laid in October of 1792. Although President Washington oversaw the construction of the house, he never lived in it. It was not until 1800, when the White House was nearly completed, that its first residents, President John Adams and his wife, Abigail, moved in."
http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/glimpse/top.html

Washington never lived in the White House, let alone grew crops there. He lived in the provisional capitol -- NYC.

He did grow it at Mt. Vernon as did many farmers of the day for fiber for cloth, rope and paper.
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