fight forum?

Hey- being new to the forums, it seems to me there is a very hostile environment. What the heck is up here? One person seems to "run" the forum, and there is animosity and hostility all over the place.
Is this not a forum in which we are supposed to be sharing our faith? Why are we spending all this time tearing eachother down?
Just saying..
Original Post
Some people take great pride at calling names and being about as profane as humanly possible without being tossed out by the TD forum modulators. I have brought attention to a few intances when a person has made a point to put someone or group of people down because of supposed "intellectual superiority," only to have his/her post riddled with very basic spelling inaccuracies. I'm always a fan of removing the pole from your own eye before you talk to your brother about the speck in his eye. If I'm ever guilty of negligence of spelling or facts, I have always taken responsibility for those errors and, to the best of my ability, apologized and corrected said errors. I can be very passionate regarding my spiritual beliefs and make no apologies for such. Sometimes, people NEED to be offended to see the truth. There's nothing like a good slap to the face of a hysterical person to bring reason back into the picture, whether literal or figurative.
quote:
Originally posted by vplee123:
Ha! yeah i guess you have a point there.
But you know, the bickering seemed to be among more of the "regulars"..

Hi VP,

I agree with you that having civil discussions would be much more productive. Regardless of our belief system; if we truly believe -- we should be able to intelligently discuss issues where we agree or disagree -- without name calling or division.

Let us work toward that together.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Attachments

Photos (1)
quote:
I agree with you that having civil discussions would be much more productive. Regardless of our belief system; if we truly believe -- we should be able to intelligently discuss issues where we agree or disagree -- without name calling or division.


You aren't even aware that his post was likely directed straight at you. You make it impossible to have an "intellectual" discussion with other believers and non believers. You constantly taunt, tease and (most offensive of all) actually seem to laugh and make jokes at the prospect of other humans spending eternity in hell. Just horrible.

Like Tommie, I am very passionate about my beliefs and make no apologies for it. But that passion causes me to defend my religion against the hateful fire and brimstone that you represent.

Eye and beam, Bill Gray. Eye and beam.
quote:
Originally posted by Sofa King:
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Gray:
I agree with you that having civil discussions would be much more productive. Regardless of our belief system; if we truly believe -- we should be able to intelligently discuss issues where we agree or disagree -- without name calling or division.
You aren't even aware that his post was likely directed straight at you. You make it impossible to have an "intellectual" discussion with other believers and non believers. You constantly taunt, tease and (most offensive of all) actually seem to laugh and make jokes at the prospect of other humans spending eternity in hell. Just horrible.

Like Tommie, I am very passionate about my beliefs and make no apologies for it. But that passion causes me to defend my religion against the hateful fire and brimstone that you represent. Eye and beam, Bill Gray. Eye and beam.

Hi Sofa,

You cannot show me anywhere that I have laughed at the prospect of anyone spending eternity in hell. Such a prospect makes me cry inside -- for, like our Lord, I would pray that everyone would be saved. However, we do know from the Bible that this is not possible -- for human nature and false teachers will lead many down the wrong path. Please show me where I have laughed and made jokes about a person being unsaved.

You say you are passionate about your RELIGION. I am passionate about my RELATIONSHIP with Jesus Christ; I do not have a religion. And, if you consider it hateful for me to quote Jesus Christ when He tells us, in John 3:3, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God" or to quote the apostle John when He tells us, in John 3:36, "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."

In 1 John 5:12 we read, "He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life."

Am I being hateful to share these Scripture passages with non-believers? No, I believe that I love them enough to want to share the Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ with them -- in the hopes that some will be saved. If that is not your goal, do not argue with me -- take it up with the Lord.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Attachments

Photos (1)
quote:
Am I being hateful to share these Scripture passages with non-believers? No, I believe that I love them enough to want to share the Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ with them -- in the hopes that some will be saved. If that is not your goal, do not argue with me -- take it up with the Lord.


How about mortal sin? are you still "saved" if you cheat on your wife,or take the Lord's name in vain? How 'bout murder? Does your 'one time savin' protect you from that too? just wondering... where is the accountability to living a good life if you've already got your transit pass?
quote:
Originally posted by vplee123:
quote:
Am I being hateful to share these Scripture passages with non-believers? No, I believe that I love them enough to want to share the Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ with them -- in the hopes that some will be saved. If that is not your goal, do not argue with me -- take it up with the Lord.


How about mortal sin? are you still "saved" if you cheat on your wife,or take the Lord's name in vain? How 'bout murder? Does your 'one time savin' protect you from that too? just wondering... where is the accountability to living a good life if you've already got your transit pass?


If a person is truly born again his/her desires should undergo a change. Of course people can and do sin after but since I believe it is Christ Jesus that saves and not my efforts it is not necessary to be saved over and over. God still holds us accountable through chastisement and yes there is a sin unto death for a believer.
quote:
If a person is truly born again his/her desires should undergo a change. Of course people can and do sin after but since I believe it is Christ Jesus that saves and not my efforts it is not necessary to be saved over and over. God still holds us accountable through chastisement and yes there is a sin unto death for a believer


Sin unto death for a believer? what does that mean?
quote:
Originally posted by vplee123:
quote:
If a person is truly born again his/her desires should undergo a change. Of course people can and do sin after but since I believe it is Christ Jesus that saves and not my efforts it is not necessary to be saved over and over. God still holds us accountable through chastisement and yes there is a sin unto death for a believer


Sin unto death for a believer? what does that mean?


It is my belief that a believer can go so far as to be totally useless to the cause that God will remove him/her from this earth.
quote:
Originally posted by vplee123:
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Am I being hateful to share these Scripture passages with non-believers? No, I believe that I love them enough to want to share the Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ with them -- in the hopes that some will be saved. If that is not your goal, do not argue with me -- take it up with the Lord.

How about mortal sin? are you still "saved" if you cheat on your wife,or take the Lord's name in vain? How 'bout murder? Does your 'one time savin' protect you from that too? just wondering... where is the accountability to living a good life if you've already got your transit pass?

Hi VP,

There is no such thing as "mortal sin" or "venial sin" -- there is only sin. Those definitions are part of man-made traditions and catechisms; not the Bible. Sin is disobedience to God. Regardless of whether it is stealing a pencil from work -- to adultery -- to murder; all are equally sin in God's eyes.

Can a Christian believer do these things and still be saved? Yes, but, the big difference is that a believer will be convicted of his sin and will work to prevent it from happening again. A non-believer, a person who does not have the Holy Spirit within -- will not have any feelings so conviction about failing God. He/she may have some remorse, some fear of "What if my wife/husband finds out?" That is not conviction -- that is fear of having to face the person you wronged and having to lie your way out of the mess you created.

On the other hand, if that person you have to face is God -- now, that is a cart of a different color. And, this is the conviction which true Christian believers will endure. And, this is what keeps the Christian believer in the hands of God.

And, that is the blessed assurance we Christian believers share: once saved, always saved -- no one can snatch us out of His hands.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Attachments

Photos (1)

Add Reply

Likes (0)

×
×
×
×