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Originally posted by thenagel:


i'm not sure what's got you rollin on your Anti-thenagel kick, unless you are jank in disguise.. which i doubt because she is at least eloquent, where you just assume and spew.



Please don't even speak of me if I am not engaged in a discussion with you. I have all but left the forums to avoid any contact with you Dan. Dragging me into this was not necessary. I have left you alone, now do me the same favor.
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Originally posted by Jankinonya:
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Originally posted by thenagel:


i'm not sure what's got you rollin on your Anti-thenagel kick, unless you are jank in disguise.. which i doubt because she is at least eloquent, where you just assume and spew.



Please don't even speak of me if I am not engaged in a discussion with you. I have all but left the forums to avoid any contact with you Dan. Dragging me into this was not necessary. I have left you alone, now do me the same favor.


/snicker.
i give the woman a compliment and she gets her knickers in a twist.

up the valium dosage hun, you'll feel better...
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Originally posted by DarkAngel:
Since thenagel has seen fit to give us all permission to voice our opinions, regardless of how rude and uncalled for they might be. I have one.

My opinion is that thenagel must be bi-polar. I have never seen anyone on any forum rant and rave as much as he does or say such hatefilled things for, what I can only assume, his own enjoyment. It seems that if he has an opinion on something then no one else has the right to tell him that opinion stinks. If they do then they are somehow trying to censor him. He also says to me in another forum that he doesn't like to hurt peoples feelings so he tries to make sure and cover his ass with alot of wishy washy statements. Then I come over here and he says the exact opposite.

I have been to first fridays. Not everything was something I was interested in or found to be worth buying or even looking at for that matter. But I would not refer to the artist work as crap. Art is not the same thing to every person. I can't imagine coming on here and tearing apart a band that had the guts to stand up in front of everyone and try their best to entertain a crowd. I can't play an instrument at all nor can I sing. I have great respect for those that can. Even if I don't particularly like their brand of music. I see that he did not have the guts to say something to them right there, yet came here under a screen name and rip them apart. What a coward.

I agree that the work that has gone into getting the first friday's going here in Florence was done by volunteers and has been a huge success. Taking pride in your community and trying to make our downtown area profitable is a great endeavor on their part. When someone who by his own admission hates pretty much everything about our little town from Ivy Green to the Handy festival and now first Fridays has an opinion about the worthiness or caliber of goods and entertainment, I think I will just write it off as rantings from an obviously and seriously unhappy and unsocialble loon.

That is just my opinion. So no one should be offended or take issue with it right?



correct.
but i didn't give you permission for anything.. it's always been there for you to partake of. i'm glad i helped you find your voice. Smiler
and i don't take any issue with it.
tho i cna tell you i'm not bi-polar.
and i will give you information that shows some of your opinions to be incorrected drawn.

i'm not hate filled. i can't think of anyone that i hate.. there are people i'd rather fall off the face of the earth, but most of them i don't know personally, i just think we would all be better off if they suddenly didnt' exist... glen beck.. rush limbaugh.. michael moore.. nancy pelosi.. osama ben laden.. kadaffi/gaddafy, the guy from lybia.. but i don't acctually hate them.

now.. to specific issues....

1- "He also says to me in another forum that he doesn't like to hurt peoples feelings so he tries to make sure and cover his ass with alot of wishy washy statements. Then I come over here and he says the exact opposite. "
I see that he did not have the guts to say something to them right there, yet came here under a screen name and rip them apart. What a coward."

i don't know who those people playing were. i don't care who they were. it doesn't matter who they were.
i didn't say anything to them because 1, it was unnecessary. 2, it would have been rude. 3, it might have cause hurt feelings.
there was no reason to do so. i came here and related the experiance i had at the first friday event thing. and now i'm called a coward for tryign to be nice to people in public.
trust me.. i most certainly DO have the guts to say what i think, when and where i think it, but, regardless of your opinion, i do try to not hurt peoples feelings, if it can be avoided. i said i don't like to hurt peoples feelings. that isn't the same thing as saying that i won't.
i don't recall telling people they couldn't disagree with my opinions. i do recall that recently, someone told me i was wrong. i pointed out that the great thing about opinions is that they quite simply cannoy be wrong.
there are situations in which the opinion cna be show to be faulty, when dealing with concrete data, like DA's Opinion was that i was Bi-Polar. the fact remains that i am not.

on the paintings, Da is in fact 100% correct. beauty is in the eye of the beholder. i did not find any of the paintings that i saw to be beautiful. or even adequate, tho i will stipulate that i did NOT see all of the paintings there. the ones i saw were, indeed, in my own opinion, crap.
i sure am sorry if such harsh and controversial language is just to much for you to cope with.

look.. it's really simple.
i calls em like i sees em. i don't use pretty flowery language so that people can feel good about themselves when, in fact, they are brain dead.
i do not blow sunshine up peoples butts and try to make sure 'i preverse their self esteem'.
i don't say things like " well, i'm sure that if your the sort of person that likes this kind of thing, then this is the kind of thing i'm sure you'd like"

i acctually heard someone use that phrase when asked if he liked the movie he had just seen. he couldn't say no.
and you called me wishy-washy?

if someone isn't up to the task set before them, i tell them, look, this just seems to be a bigger bite than you can chew.. how about we try something else?
and i'm certainly not going to pretend to ignore them screwing up so i don't hurt their feelings.
the upside of this is, it got the kid to work with me to find something he was capable of, and we came across something he excelled at.
which, to my way of thinking, is a much better end result than making him feel good about not being able to do the first task.
(i used to be a manager. i had a really great crew, eventually. they trusted me because they knew i would help them and get their backs, and i trusted them because they did their best for me.)

there was a lot in your post that was truly opinion, and as such i'll leave it alone. some while stated as opinion, was incorrect, ( for example, the bi-polar thing) and some of it i touched upon.
some of it, believe it or not, is acctually the truth.

yes, the people responsible did work hard, and it should be noted as such. i know a couple of the key people involved. yes, they know my opinion, and they don't give me the kinda of flack this forum has when i expressed my opionin, in almost the same way. if they didn't whine about my words, why should i listen to you?

the difference is, to them i also added things like 'it seems liek a lot of people really do get a kick out of it.. you did good work for this lil town"
i didn't mention that here because no one was identified as one of the founders/instigators/organizers for the events.

i DO think it's a good thing for the city.. rather.. so far it seems to be a good thing for the city.. however it is not something that i find entertaining. infact i find it godawful. that doesn't mean i don't recognize and appreciate the work that went into it, .. maybe it means i give them the respect they are due for their hard work by not lying to them how i feel about it.

something else that was accurate was the word 'unsociable'. except i prefer the term Antisocial.
i hate crowds. hate. hate hate hate. if we were going to stipulate your 'hatefilled' comment from above, then it would have to be applied to my feelings about crowds.
i don't even like to be in a group of more than 8 or so people that i know and like. if i don't know and like them, then my comfort level drops to about 2.
the crowd on court street was horrendous.
and i stipulate the possibility that the crowd alone would have been enough to make me have a horrible evening, even if the music and art were all perfect.
i supposed it's a form of claustaphobia.. open spaces don't bug me. closed spaces don't bug me. lots and lots of people drive me batpoop crazy.
i cna cope at a restaurant, because we're all closed up in out little secluded booth. no one exists but us and the waitress. or at least i cna pretend and the other people don't bother me.
when i'm standing on the street and there is a steady stream of people for 45 minutes, some of them bumping into me, one stepping on my foot with no hint of an apology, and i'm ready to start smacking people. it's like fingernails on a blackboard to me.
that may have been a factor in my additude when i wrote that first post. i dunno. but if so it doesn't change my opinion on the event.
i had no fun - i wish i hadn't been there - i never intend to go back.
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Originally posted by thenagel:
i hate crowds. hate. hate hate hate. if we were going to stipulate your 'hatefilled' comment from above, then it would have to be applied to my feelings about crowds.
i don't even like to be in a group of more than 8 or so people that i know and like. if i don't know and like them, then my comfort level drops to about 2.
the crowd on court street was horrendous.
and i stipulate the possibility that the crowd alone would have been enough to make me have a horrible evening, even if the music and art were all perfect.
i supposed it's a form of claustaphobia.. open spaces don't bug me. closed spaces don't bug me. lots and lots of people drive me batpoop crazy.


batpoop crazy....

I sympathize about the crowds. I have a problem with heights.
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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
You implied it with your rant. thenagel gave his opinion & you jumped him for it, now you resort to name calling.


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Originally posted by Unobtanium:
that's what we do here, semi.
don't like the event? fine. don't come. but him being so publicly critical of the good people who volunteer their time to make it happen is akin to bashing the salvation army soup kitchen volunteers. it's just low and classless.
first friday's is a present to the community at-large from the art community. don't like it? DON'T COME. if you bash it, i'll feel free to call you on it.


Some name calling is deserved, some isn't. Guess it depends on the person doing it. Smiler

I didn't get the feeling that nagel was bashing the good people who volunteer their time. I know I wasn't. I won't go back because I didn't enjoy it but I see nothing wrong with people going that do like it. If it's doing well, I hope it continues to do so.
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Originally posted by O No!:
More and more every day you are sounding like Unob. Coincidence?


busted AGAIN, i am! dang, can't a guy wear a mask without you smart folks catcing on?

so far, i've been called "Crusty" and "Opie" and "fishy" and "sofa," and "a.robustus" even "theangle" and a few others scattered in there. it is as if you guys can't fit in your head the possibility that there are other people out there who share the same ideas about certain subjects. why is that, i wunner?

ono, your infatuation with me has now migrated into the "a bit creepy" realm. really, take a break, friend.
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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
Does that make us low life dirt bags for saying we didn't like it?


expressing an opinion is one thing. to essentially stand on the street corner (this forum) and shout your disdain against this excellent event is quite another, semi.

my OPINION is that it does if you do it on a public forum against volunteers who've devoted many hours of their time making this event as good as it can be. the volunteers have nothing but good will and a love for their community in mind. they WILL see this stupid rant and someone like me just has to stand up against Angle's stupid rant.

for the same reasons, my OPINION is that kicking a puppy is very bad form.
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Originally posted by Unobtanium:
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Originally posted by O No!:
More and more every day you are sounding like Unob. Coincidence?


busted AGAIN, i am! dang, can't a guy wear a mask without you smart folks catcing on?

so far, i've been called "Crusty" and "Opie" and "fishy" and "sofa," and "a.robustus" even "theangle" and a few others scattered in there. it is as if you guys can't fit in your head the possibility that there are other people out there who share the same ideas about certain subjects. why is that, i wunner?

ono, your infatuation with me has now migrated into the "a bit creepy" realm. really, take a break, friend.



Not an infatuation, pal. Just a strong sense of right and wrong that forces me to counter bull**** when I see/hear/read it.
My God, people! Have you all lost it? One doesn't like First Friday and now all of this? I don't like mayonaise but is that a reason for name calling and petty bickering forever over something that will have no bearing on the world in 10 seconds? I am sure there are folks who really enjoy First Friday events as there are others who do not. It make neither of you right or wrong. Only different strokes for different folks. Grow up and give it a rest. Move on to something important like how soon can I get some green tomatoes to fry!! LOL to all of you. Right, Left, or in the middle.
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Originally posted by earthmomma:
The first person to give the best answer to the title of the play Shakespeare wrote concerning this topic will win a free fountain drink at Quiznos, Court St. I am the sole judge to the best answer since I will be providing the prize! Arrangements for pick-up will be made!


taming of the shrew!?!?! Big Grin
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Originally posted by earthmomma:
The first person to give the best answer to the title of the play Shakespeare wrote concerning this topic will win a free fountain drink at Quiznos, Court St. I am the sole judge to the best answer since I will be providing the prize! Arrangements for pick-up will be made!


ROFL.. As you like it Smiler
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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
Does that make us low life dirt bags for saying we didn't like it?


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Originally posted by Unobtanium:
expressing an opinion is one thing. to essentially stand on the street corner (this forum) and shout your disdain against this excellent event is quite another, semi.

for the same reasons, my OPINION is that kicking a puppy is very bad form.


I never shouted any distain, I just said I didn't like it and I would NEVER kick a puppy.

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