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DR. PEPPER,, that old law and all past state and federal  laws purporting to criminalize burning or other desecration of the American flag have been struck down as UNCONSTITUTIONAL.  Such laws being invalid,  there is therefore no such differential applicability as you ignorantly assert. Read all about it here:

http://civilliberty.about.com/...ch/p/flagburning.htm

Remarkably, according to the First Amendment Center, a respected organization headquartered in Tennessee:  "Although the U.S. Supreme Court has twice invalidated state flag laws, 47 states still have on the books laws, many modeled after the Uniform Flag Law of 1917, that prohibit the desecration of the flag or its use for advertising and publicity purposes."

http://www.firstamendmentcente...flag-protection-laws

Those laws, though on the books, can not be enforced, having been invalidated by the highest court in the land.

Now go ahead if you still wish to "get the word out."  But the word you get out will be BOGUS. And if you have already begun to disseminate this crapola, integrity would dictate that you again contact the members of your e-mail community whom you have misled and correct your error.

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giftedamateur posted:

Look how happy Contendahh is about being able to desecrate the flag. Look how nasty he posts to someone that doesn't like it. Why not get the word out that people desecrating the flag are pigs, and the ones that think it is OK to do it are even bigger pigs?

Beternnun should be ashamed of himself on so many levels.

giftedamateur posted:

Look how happy Contendahh is about being able to desecrate the flag. Look how nasty he posts to someone that doesn't like it. Why not get the word out that people desecrating the flag are pigs, and the ones that think it is OK to do it are even bigger pigs?

Why not get the word out that people desecrating the flag are pigs, and the ones that think it is OK to do it are even bigger pigs?

Good idea.

giftedamateur posted:

Look how happy Contendahh is about being able to desecrate the flag. Look how nasty he posts to someone that doesn't like it. Why not get the word out that people desecrating the flag are pigs, and the ones that think it is OK to do it are even bigger pigs?

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Your warped reply is utterly without merit. There is NOTHING in what I posted that indicates any happiness on my part about flag desecration or any endorsement of the practice.  I clearly, and with documentation, pointed out a gross error in information posted by DR. PEPPER.  Neither you nor anyone else has found anything incorrect in my interpretation of this Constitutional issue.

Notice that I did not accuse DR.PEPPER of lying. It has become all too common in society and in this forum to characterize mistakenly incorrect information as a "lie."  A lie is an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker or writer to be untrue, with intent to deceive.  Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding is not lying.  Nevertheless, such misinformation should be corrected in a timely manner before it is repeated and misleads others. In the last line of his post, DR.PEPPER encouraged such repetition ("...let's see how many shares we can get to get the word out.").  I suggested instead that he get the CORRECT word out to any whom he might have already misinformed.

Are you interested in TRUTH, Best, or simply in twisting distorting what I have done here in my pursuit of the truth?  SHAME on you.

Contendahh posted:
giftedamateur posted:

Look how happy Contendahh is about being able to desecrate the flag. Look how nasty he posts to someone that doesn't like it. Why not get the word out that people desecrating the flag are pigs, and the ones that think it is OK to do it are even bigger pigs?

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Your warped reply is utterly without merit. There is NOTHING in what I posted that indicates any happiness on my part about flag desecration or any endorsement of the practice.  I clearly, and with documentation, pointed out a gross error in information posted by DR. PEPPER.  Neither you nor anyone else has found anything incorrect in my interpretation of this Constitutional issue.

Notice that I did not accuse DR.PEPPER of lying. It has become all too common in society and in this forum to characterize mistakenly incorrect information as a "lie."  A lie is an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker or writer to be untrue, with intent to deceive.  Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding is not lying.  Nevertheless, such misinformation should be corrected in a timely manner before it is repeated and misleads others. In the last line of his post, DR.PEPPER encouraged such repetition ("...let's see how many shares we can get to get the word out.").  I suggested instead that he get the CORRECT word out to any whom he might have already misinformed.

Are you interested in TRUTH, Best, or simply in twisting distorting what I have done here in my pursuit of the truth?  SHAME on you.

Contendahh posted:
giftedamateur posted:

Look how happy Contendahh is about being able to desecrate the flag. Look how nasty he posts to someone that doesn't like it. Why not get the word out that people desecrating the flag are pigs, and the ones that think it is OK to do it are even bigger pigs?

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Your warped reply is utterly without merit. There is NOTHING in what I posted that indicates any happiness on my part about flag desecration or any endorsement of the practice.  I clearly, and with documentation, pointed out a gross error in information posted by DR. PEPPER.  Neither you nor anyone else has found anything incorrect in my interpretation of this Constitutional issue.

Notice that I did not accuse DR.PEPPER of lying. It has become all too common in society and in this forum to characterize mistakenly incorrect information as a "lie."  A lie is an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker or writer to be untrue, with intent to deceive.  Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding is not lying.  Nevertheless, such misinformation should be corrected in a timely manner before it is repeated and misleads others. In the last line of his post, DR.PEPPER encouraged such repetition ("...let's see how many shares we can get to get the word out.").  I suggested instead that he get the CORRECT word out to any whom he might have already misinformed.

Are you interested in TRUTH, Best, or simply in twisting distorting what I have done here in my pursuit of the truth?  SHAME on you.

Best? There you go again, no idea who you are posting to. You gave Dire a rest this time. LOL!!

Last edited by Bestworking
Bestworking posted:
Contendahh posted:
giftedamateur posted:

Look how happy Contendahh is about being able to desecrate the flag. Look how nasty he posts to someone that doesn't like it. Why not get the word out that people desecrating the flag are pigs, and the ones that think it is OK to do it are even bigger pigs?

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Your warped reply is utterly without merit. There is NOTHING in what I posted that indicates any happiness on my part about flag desecration or any endorsement of the practice.  I clearly, and with documentation, pointed out a gross error in information posted by DR. PEPPER.  Neither you nor anyone else has found anything incorrect in my interpretation of this Constitutional issue.

Notice that I did not accuse DR.PEPPER of lying. It has become all too common in society and in this forum to characterize mistakenly incorrect information as a "lie."  A lie is an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker or writer to be untrue, with intent to deceive.  Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding is not lying.  Nevertheless, such misinformation should be corrected in a timely manner before it is repeated and misleads others. In the last line of his post, DR.PEPPER encouraged such repetition ("...let's see how many shares we can get to get the word out.").  I suggested instead that he get the CORRECT word out to any whom he might have already misinformed.

Are you interested in TRUTH, Best, or simply in twisting distorting what I have done here in my pursuit of the truth?  SHAME on you.

Contendahh posted:
giftedamateur posted:

Look how happy Contendahh is about being able to desecrate the flag. Look how nasty he posts to someone that doesn't like it. Why not get the word out that people desecrating the flag are pigs, and the ones that think it is OK to do it are even bigger pigs?

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Your warped reply is utterly without merit. There is NOTHING in what I posted that indicates any happiness on my part about flag desecration or any endorsement of the practice.  I clearly, and with documentation, pointed out a gross error in information posted by DR. PEPPER.  Neither you nor anyone else has found anything incorrect in my interpretation of this Constitutional issue.

Notice that I did not accuse DR.PEPPER of lying. It has become all too common in society and in this forum to characterize mistakenly incorrect information as a "lie."  A lie is an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker or writer to be untrue, with intent to deceive.  Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding is not lying.  Nevertheless, such misinformation should be corrected in a timely manner before it is repeated and misleads others. In the last line of his post, DR.PEPPER encouraged such repetition ("...let's see how many shares we can get to get the word out.").  I suggested instead that he get the CORRECT word out to any whom he might have already misinformed.

Are you interested in TRUTH, Best, or simply in twisting distorting what I have done here in my pursuit of the truth?  SHAME on you.

Best? There you go again, no idea who you are posting to. You gave Dire a rest this time. LOL!!

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My mistake-yes. And I acknowledge it.  Now would YOU like to address the substantive issue being discussed here?

Contendahh posted:
Bestworking posted:
Contendahh posted:
giftedamateur posted:

Look how happy Contendahh is about being able to desecrate the flag. Look how nasty he posts to someone that doesn't like it. Why not get the word out that people desecrating the flag are pigs, and the ones that think it is OK to do it are even bigger pigs?

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Your warped reply is utterly without merit. There is NOTHING in what I posted that indicates any happiness on my part about flag desecration or any endorsement of the practice.  I clearly, and with documentation, pointed out a gross error in information posted by DR. PEPPER.  Neither you nor anyone else has found anything incorrect in my interpretation of this Constitutional issue.

Notice that I did not accuse DR.PEPPER of lying. It has become all too common in society and in this forum to characterize mistakenly incorrect information as a "lie."  A lie is an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker or writer to be untrue, with intent to deceive.  Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding is not lying.  Nevertheless, such misinformation should be corrected in a timely manner before it is repeated and misleads others. In the last line of his post, DR.PEPPER encouraged such repetition ("...let's see how many shares we can get to get the word out.").  I suggested instead that he get the CORRECT word out to any whom he might have already misinformed.

Are you interested in TRUTH, Best, or simply in twisting distorting what I have done here in my pursuit of the truth?  SHAME on you.

Contendahh posted:
giftedamateur posted:

Look how happy Contendahh is about being able to desecrate the flag. Look how nasty he posts to someone that doesn't like it. Why not get the word out that people desecrating the flag are pigs, and the ones that think it is OK to do it are even bigger pigs?

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Your warped reply is utterly without merit. There is NOTHING in what I posted that indicates any happiness on my part about flag desecration or any endorsement of the practice.  I clearly, and with documentation, pointed out a gross error in information posted by DR. PEPPER.  Neither you nor anyone else has found anything incorrect in my interpretation of this Constitutional issue.

Notice that I did not accuse DR.PEPPER of lying. It has become all too common in society and in this forum to characterize mistakenly incorrect information as a "lie."  A lie is an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker or writer to be untrue, with intent to deceive.  Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding is not lying.  Nevertheless, such misinformation should be corrected in a timely manner before it is repeated and misleads others. In the last line of his post, DR.PEPPER encouraged such repetition ("...let's see how many shares we can get to get the word out.").  I suggested instead that he get the CORRECT word out to any whom he might have already misinformed.

Are you interested in TRUTH, Best, or simply in twisting distorting what I have done here in my pursuit of the truth?  SHAME on you.

Best? There you go again, no idea who you are posting to. You gave Dire a rest this time. LOL!!

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My mistake-yes. And I acknowledge it.  Now would YOU like to address the substantive issue being discussed here?

What do you want to know? What do you want to discuss? Below is Gifted's post, and my reply. Then you went on your rampage, yapping about warped replies and you being accused of lying. Show me where either of that is true from our posts. Now I will call you a LIAR about your post.

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Look how happy Contendahh is about being able to desecrate the flag. Look how nasty he posts to someone that doesn't like it. Why not get the word out that people desecrating the flag are pigs, and the ones that think it is OK to do it are even bigger pigs?

Good idea.

Your warped reply is utterly without merit. (What was warped about her reply?) There is NOTHING in what I posted that indicates any happiness on my part about flag desecration or any endorsement of the practice. (It was obvious.)  I clearly, and with documentation, pointed out a gross error in information posted by DR. PEPPER.  Neither you nor anyone else has found anything incorrect in my interpretation of this Constitutional issue.

Notice that I did not accuse DR.PEPPER of lying. (Who said you did?) It has become all too common in society and in this forum to characterize mistakenly incorrect information as a "lie."(Yes, that's all you dems do, when you aren't falsely accusing others of racism and racists attacks).  A lie is an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker or writer to be untrue, with intent to deceive. (We know the definition, you dems do it all the time). Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding is not lying. (Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding? Misunderstanding?)   Nevertheless, such misinformation should be corrected in a timely manner before it is repeated and misleads others. (Why don't you dems do that instead of starting the lies/misunderstandings in the attempt to mislead others?) In the last line of his post, DR.PEPPER encouraged such repetition ("...let's see how many shares we can get to get the word out.").  I suggested instead that he get the CORRECT word out to any whom he might have already misinformed.(She suggested something too, and you didn't like it.)

Are you interested in TRUTH, Best, or simply in twisting distorting what I have done here in my pursuit of the truth?  (I'm not interested in YOUR truth because as anyone can see, it's twisted, distorted and made up.)SHAME on you. (No beternnun, once again, SHAME ON YOU!)

Last edited by Bestworking
Bestworking posted:

Your warped reply is utterly without merit. (What was warped about her reply?) There is NOTHING in what I posted that indicates any happiness on my part about flag desecration or any endorsement of the practice. (It was obvious.)  I clearly, and with documentation, pointed out a gross error in information posted by DR. PEPPER.  Neither you nor anyone else has found anything incorrect in my interpretation of this Constitutional issue.

Notice that I did not accuse DR.PEPPER of lying. (Who said you did?) It has become all too common in society and in this forum to characterize mistakenly incorrect information as a "lie."(Yes, that's all you dems do, when you aren't falsely accusing others of racism and racists attacks).  A lie is an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker or writer to be untrue, with intent to deceive. (We know the definition, you dems do it all the time). Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding is not lying. (Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding? Misunderstanding?)   Nevertheless, such misinformation should be corrected in a timely manner before it is repeated and misleads others. (Why don't you dems do that instead of starting the lies/misunderstandings in the attempt to mislead others?) In the last line of his post, DR.PEPPER encouraged such repetition ("...let's see how many shares we can get to get the word out.").  I suggested instead that he get the CORRECT word out to any whom he might have already misinformed.(She suggested something too, and you didn't like it.)

Are you interested in TRUTH, Best, or simply in twisting distorting what I have done here in my pursuit of the truth?  (I'm not interested in YOUR truth because as anyone can see, it's twisted, distorted and made up.)SHAME on you. (No beternnun, once again, SHAME ON YOU!)

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Congrats, Best; you have just achieved a new personal best in horsesassitude!

Contendahh posted:
Bestworking posted:

Your warped reply is utterly without merit. (What was warped about her reply?) There is NOTHING in what I posted that indicates any happiness on my part about flag desecration or any endorsement of the practice. (It was obvious.)  I clearly, and with documentation, pointed out a gross error in information posted by DR. PEPPER.  Neither you nor anyone else has found anything incorrect in my interpretation of this Constitutional issue.

Notice that I did not accuse DR.PEPPER of lying. (Who said you did?) It has become all too common in society and in this forum to characterize mistakenly incorrect information as a "lie."(Yes, that's all you dems do, when you aren't falsely accusing others of racism and racists attacks).  A lie is an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker or writer to be untrue, with intent to deceive. (We know the definition, you dems do it all the time). Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding is not lying. (Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding? Misunderstanding?)   Nevertheless, such misinformation should be corrected in a timely manner before it is repeated and misleads others. (Why don't you dems do that instead of starting the lies/misunderstandings in the attempt to mislead others?) In the last line of his post, DR.PEPPER encouraged such repetition ("...let's see how many shares we can get to get the word out.").  I suggested instead that he get the CORRECT word out to any whom he might have already misinformed.(She suggested something too, and you didn't like it.)

Are you interested in TRUTH, Best, or simply in twisting distorting what I have done here in my pursuit of the truth?  (I'm not interested in YOUR truth because as anyone can see, it's twisted, distorted and made up.)SHAME on you. (No beternnun, once again, SHAME ON YOU!)

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Congrats, Best; you have just achieved a new personal best in horsesassitude!

No way anyone could take that away from YOU!!!

The thing that I keep remembering is how the Trump protesters fly the Mexican flag, proudly, as if they are in Mexico.  In fact they actually do believe that sections of the United States and parts of, if not all of, California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas are Mexico and that the United States stole it from Mexico.  They honestly feel that it still belongs to Mexico so they are not illegal but that Americans are for living there.  This is why they fly their Mexican flags and if you look at their protest signs you will see their intent and their belief.  As for their treatment of the American flag I fully believe that it should be illegal for their intent is not protesting as in the first amendment but rather to overcome and replace the American Flag with the Mexican flag and take back what they perceive as America taking their land. 

I think that the best thing, given today's activities and happenings, to do with the American flag is to fly it upside down.

Because surely we are a land and people in distressful times.

 

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GBRK said

I think that the best thing, given today's activities and happenings, to do with the American flag is to fly it upside down.

Because surely we are a land and people in distressful times.

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If you were joking about the flag, it wasn't funny. If you aren't
joking please explain why your suggestion would help...
mad American posted:

It is not, in my opinion a form of speech, but a criminal act.  How ever "if" it is a protected form of speech, then the people practicing that form of speech should have any and all government benefits stripped, no welfare, food stamps or medicare  on the taxpayers dime. 

You're absolutely right......

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